Talk:Language committee/2016

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2016

{{edit semi-protected|Requests for new languages|answered=no}} May I post a link my page for a language suggestion for Wikipedia? HorseSnack (talk) 17:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

1. Why is this an editprotect request?
2. To which page exactly do you want to link from where? --MF-W 01:16, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikisource Hindi

Language committee/Status/ws/hi hasn't been updated in 7 years. Currently, Hindi texts are hosted at s:mul:Category:हिन्दी, and there are enough to warrant a new wiki. We also have Bengali, Sanskrit, Marathi, Telugu, Oriya, and Tamil Wikisources, so Hindi is long due. When can we expect a Hindi wikisource? Aryamanarora (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

"Wikipedia Mongolian written in Mongolian script"

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T11436

In Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mongolian written in Mongolian script, the request were put onto hold because "Mongolian script is written from top to down and MediaWiki doesn't support it yet". But as I can see from ASL Wikipedia, it seem like vertical writing direction is supported. So why is this still on hold? C933103 (talk) 05:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: Look like an incubator for it have been created at [1]. It use mvf because it's the ISO 639-3 code for the "Peripheral Mongolian" (South-Eastern Mongolian) which is the stanadard version of Mongolian used in Inner Mongolia and also the main place where the (Traditional) Mongolian script is used (whereas the Mongolian written in Cyrillic script as they are on the current Mongolia Wikipedia were mainly used in Republic of Mongolia), but they are not satisfied with this code usage because:

reasons

1.According to what's written in the request and my own understanding, they believe the version of Mongolian used in Inner Mongolilan are more predominant than the Mongolian used in Republic of Mongolian and written in Cyrillic Script, which according to standard, the more predominant language can be represented by the macrolanguage code (Note that Cyrillic Mongolian user might oppose this), and thus they think they should get the code of mn while let the existing Mongolian Wikipedia become khk if the final decision is to create two separate Wikipedia base on the language different to reflect the different use of script, and 2. While most Traditional Mongolian Script user are Inner Mongolian user, there are also RoM Mongolian users which support the creation of a Traditional Mongolian Script Wikipedia, which shows the script difference does not lie entirely along the line of language different, and 3. mvf only represent South-Eastern Mongolian language and there are also North Eastern Mongolian (bxu) and Western Mongolian (xal) speaking in Inner Mongolia which some might collectively call them Inner Mongolian. (despite the ISO standard does not view bxu/xal as part of the Mongolian macrolanguage, there're actually a language continuum there which make people there consider they're same language with different regional speaks.)

But set the language code conflict aside, most people spoken in the request apparently does not reject the idea of creating an separate Inner Mongolian Wikipedia written in Traditional Mongolian Script if it is impossible to facilitate intrawiki script conversion or create another Wikipedia base on script different.

Note#2: Another proposal for it exist at Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mongolian (Traditional Mongolian Script) which probably can be consider as a duplicate request?

Note#3: Someone in the request also mentioned about if it is not possible to create an alternative Wikipedia simply due to C933103 (talk) 05:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@C933103: American Sign Language Wikipedia is using the Signwriting Gadget. However, the Traditional Mongolian is originally designed as a vertical script.

Note that currently the source codes (i.e. when editing) are still left-to-right, only vertical rendering is supported. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: I saw wiki.uhaan.com support editing vertically (despite I am not clear about what implementation they used) but that mean it should be doable. C933103 (talk) 02:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

“Wikipedia Burushaski”

Hello. I found an isolated page Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Burushaski, but I probably should not touch it. Could anyone dispose of it in an appropriate way? --Eryk Kij (talk) 05:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I deleted it. --MF-W 16:37, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I hope that someone who is eager to establish bsk.wiki someday will post there in an appropriate way. --Eryk Kij (talk) 22:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Jamaican Wikipedia

Hi! I would like to ask for approval of this project. SPQRobin stated that "the required localization has been done" and we have a a lot of articles with new editions every day. --Katxis (talk) 10:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata at Meta

Please see Template_talk:New_wiki_request#Language's item at Wikidata.

There is now also a list of codes at d:Help:Wikimedia language codes/lists/all. It includes those where the language's item includes it. --Jura1 (talk) 14:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Teochew Wikipedia

In Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Teochew, the request to create a Teochew Wikipedia were put on hold due to its lack of individual ISO 639 1-3 code. However, according to discussion down below the page, it seems like Teochew language actually meet the requirement needed to obtain a separate language code, just that because doing so would affect the nan code, they doesn't give Teochew a new code. The language proposal policy say "The Wikimedia Foundation does not seek to develop new linguistic entities; there must be an extensive body of works in that language. The information that distinguishes this language from another must be sufficient to convince standards organizations to create an ISO 639 code.". In Teochew's case they seems to fulfill all these rationale listed behind the ISO code requirement in the policy but they still unable to get their own ISO code. Is an exemption possible in this case? C933103 (talk) 19:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I think that code proposal looks wrong, they want to split Min Nan to Teochew and Xiamenese, but ignored many Min dialects such as Hainanese, so even if I am from ISO 639 Registration Authority, I will also reject the proposal because it's incomplete.

I suggest to just request a code for Teochew, as we already have an example: the Literary (Classical) Chinese. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

If I read correctly, the one that want to split Minnanese into different languages is actually people from ISO not the one who suggest it to them?C933103 (talk) 17:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Language proposal policy's Requisites for eligibility

For languages under revitalization efforts, should clause 4 of the eligibility requisite be relaxed a bit? It currently require "living native speakers to form a viable community and audience", but if you look at revival of Hebrew, people start using Hebrew for daily conversation since year 1880s, and Tel Aviv established in 1909 as a Hebrew-speaking city, however it's only during Mandate period which start after WWII where people start teaching children Hebrew as their mother language. It'd probably take at least 20 years for children to grow into people who can form a contributor community and to articulate enough amount of native speaker. So even in this idealistic Hebrew revitalization case, it would still take 60 years for Wikipedia before Wikipedia would create a Hebrew version for them if we already have Wikipedia back then. Probably it would be a good idea to put the requirement for Language under revitalization effort down to the same line as the requirement for artificial languages? C933103 (talk) 11:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, waiting 60 years before creating a Wikipedia in a resuscitated language is a good idea. Wikipedia needs sources in the language, which need to be created first. Nemo 21:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Realistically, a resuscitated language can't help being to some significant degree artificial, exactly because of the unavailability of native speakers. The main trouble with applying the artificial-language standards to a resuscitated language is that those resuscitating it will probably have political reasons for denying the artificiality. --Pi zero (talk) 00:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thus I suppose it'd be a good idea to reword the section to say language under revitalization effort can also be accepted under certain condition even with no or close to no native speaker.C933103 (talk) 05:57, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Take Hebrew's case as an example again, according to the wp article, after Mendele start writing Hebrew in a new style by discarding some rules, people already start writing Hebrew in Newspaper, Magazine, and translating scientific books into Hebrew which I think these could already been treat as sources for Hebrew Wikipedia back to the 19th century. C933103 (talk) 05:57, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

incubator:Wp/hbo? Note that Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Hebrew has rejected. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I am talking about an hypothetical situation for modern Hebrew in 19th-20th century, with the intention that if Langcom agree to changes its policy, then it might be able to apply on some other languages that are currently under revitalization efforts without having to wait for the born of new native speakers.C933103 (talk) 01:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

On consideration, I agree that languages undergoing revitalization should be treated as favorably as artificial languages; as I remarked above, for many practical purposes such languages are artificial languages — with the important asset of an advocating community — except that it's usually tactless to call them "artificial". It seems appropriate to recommend a specific edit to the policy text, with the purpose of clarifying that languages under revitalization can be treated similarly to artificial languages (so that it isn't necessary for those promoting revitalization to swallow the bitter pill of calling their language "artificial"). How about inserting into the subitem of clause 4, following the word Esperanto and its comma, the phrase "or a language undergoing revitalization efforts such as Irish," so that the entire clause would become

• If the proposal is for an artificial language such as Esperanto, or a language undergoing revitalization efforts such as Irish, it must have a reasonable degree of recognition as determined by discussion (this requirement is being discussed by the Language committee ).

--Pi zero (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Do others agree with the change and is it suitable for me to directly edit the policy as suggested above?C933103 (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

No. I will bring this topic to the Langcom mailing list. --MF-W 23:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

The relevant data point about Hebrew is not the establishing of Tel Aviv as a Hebrew-speaking city in 1909, but the establishment of Hebrew-medium schools in the 1880s. So, if Wikipedia was available in the 19th century, the children in these schools wouldn't be able to find homework help in the language of their school.

By 1909 there was already a generation of young adults who spoke Hebrew. When done right, it takes much less than thirty years, not sixty. Hebrew is an extreme example of language revitalization done right, but comparable things happened with some languages of Russia, as well as with Catalan and some other languages. If outside of Wikipedia the language is used in any kind of education, then a Wikipedia in it is definitely eligible.

Also, the lack of sources in the same language is not a blocker at all. People who are motivated enough to read external sources in a different language can learn a different language. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:37, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

And then after near 4 weeks no new comments..?C933103 (talk) 10:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikiversity Chinese

Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Chinese--John123521 (talk) 09:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

"dead languages" and other double standards

For some reason I've noticed a weird double standard going through and that's that while Latin and Classical Chinese language Wikipedia have been created others were rejected on the notion for a lack of current native speakers or a community of people who speak that language (Middle Dutch, and Ottoman Turkish), while Classical Greek was denied because of its ambiguity as it could be distinguished between Ancient, Koine, and Medieval, though the same applies to Latin as Ancient and Medieval Latin are completely different languages. Chữ Nôm, Baybayin Tagalog, and Mixed-Script Korean (both Chinese, and Choson'gul) were all denied because Wikipedia supposedly didn't allow for the same language to be written in multiple scripts, while "Chinese" Wikipedia can switch between Traditional Chinese (Taiwan), Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong), and Simplified Chinese. Klingon, Tolkien's languages and other fictional languages were denied, while Volapuk and Esperanto were accepted, all of these languages are artificial only some are exclusively used within works of literary and/or film, while the others were supposed to be "universal" languages, there exists a Klingon dictionary, Klingon is moderated and has grammar and the same can be said about every other fictional language yet these are denied while Esperanto isn't, there is a vibrant Klingon speaking community and a Vibrant-Elvish speaking community online, just like Esperanto has. The only real distinction between everything mentioned above is one's perspective.

I'm not asking for the immediate creation of every rejected language (though that would be nice, especially for a Chữ Nôm-based wiki), but I wonder why the double standard exists as to why we can have a Latin Wikipedia but we can't have an Ancient Aramaic Wikipedia, is this a change of policy that had occurred after the creation of Classical Chinese and Latin Wikipediæ? --Cookie Nguyen (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

How many times does this need to be repeated? The current policy considers projects in dead languages to be mistakes. Past mistakes can't be fixed by policy, only by time travel. So if you want to change the situation with Latin Wikipedia please search for a time machine! Nemo 09:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Nemo_bis, but we can just close them from editing, then delete. --Ochilov (talk) 12:32, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

["Chinese" Wikipedia can switch between Traditional Chinese (Taiwan), Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong), and Simplified Chinese] but they're still same Wikipedia with shared article content. Just like how Vietnamese Wikipedia currently able to switch between different form of script. Of course it'd be a problem that some of those scripts cannot do automatic inter-conversion, in that case one possibility would be have content written with different script hosted on same wiki like pre-conversion-system Chinese Wikipedia or the current Min Dong Wikipedia despite there're some problem with this approach compare to the separate wiki solution including interwiki.

Also, Latin and Literary Chinese are at least still in use in some restricted environment like Latin is still used by Holy See in many of its activity and Literary Chinese are still being taught by nearly all high school in China and some other places, despite being a dead language and exception to wikimedia's policy.C933103 (talk) 10:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Renaming wikis and preferred language codes

In phab:T127680 (and phab:T127679), someone is proposing changing the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia and Wiktionary URLs from sh to hsb because sh is a deprecated ISO 639 code. Someone else argues that the current code is fine because they think "deprecated" does not mean "invalid" and because sh is not deprecated in BCP 47.

What counts as a valid code? There are several places where we say a (new) project needs a valid ISO code (e.g. Language proposal policy and incubator:Help:Manual), but I can't find anywhere where ISO 639 defines what counts as a valid code. I would interpret it as any assigned code which is not deprecated/retired or private use or special use, but as you can see above, not everyone interprets it that way. And what would be the preferred code for Serbo-Croatian?

- Nikki (talk) 16:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Algerian arq wikipedia

Is it possible to update the status page for arq. We need to know where to focus our efforts. Thanks.--Oldstoneage (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Esperanto

Hi! Esperanto Wikivoyage now fulfills all needed requirements for a new wiki creation! Can somebody take care of this request? :) --Ochilov (talk) 14:47, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Coptic 2

Hi! This request have been closed, but there are native speakers of this language, actually. ~300, but they exist! We also have some native Copts who are working in Incubator in Coptic Wikipedia. Why are you calling this language "dead" while it is actually only endangered? As you can see here and here (you can also just google "Coptic language Native speakers and you will see), it has some L1 speakers, so it is endangered, but not yet dead. --Ochilov (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Tamil

Hi! Tamil wikivoyage is at a good status for creation. It has 225+ Travel Guides. Please takecare of this request. :)--Maathavan (talk) 16:00, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ingush

We are doing good. Could you please make the discussion go faster? Ilya Drakonov (talk) 17:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC).

• Not all of the localisation requirements are done. --Ghiutun 08:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Language committee/Status/wp/bgn

Hello!
any one of administrators can add it for Western Balochi Wikipedia! {{ls-status |en name = Western Baluchi |updated = 2016-03-28 |new = done |code = done |unique = done |scope = done |test = |l10n main = done |l10n core = done |l10n ext = optional |status = |verified = |subcom = |board = <!-- overrides --> |category = |iso639-3 = }} --Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 19:59, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki Language

Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Saraiki is sent for Saraiki. Kindly look in to matter. Create Saraiki Wiki. Saraiki is an important language. Department of Saraiki, Islamia University, Bahawalpur was established in 1989[1] and Department of Saraiki, Bahauddin Zakariya University, Multan[2] was established in 2006. Saraiki is taught as subject in schools and colleges at higher secondary, intermediate and degree level. Allama Iqbal open university Islamabad,[3] and Al-Khair university Bhimbir have their Pakistani Linguistics Departments. They are offering M.Phil. and Ph.D in Saraiki. Five T V channels and Ten Radio Stations are Serving Saraiki language.

I  Support creation for the Seraiki language Wikipedia , but its suggested the above request maker that you should first start Seraiki Wikipedia on Incubator and then make a consensus and request the language committee that will have a right to whether approve or reject the proposal, but if you make some gigantic edits and work then it will surely be added as Seraiki Wikipedia. --Jogi don (talk) 09:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki is a sweet language and I was also looking for Saraiki Wikipedia to be opened, but I am not a native Saraiki speaker therefore I didn't request for its creation. If this wiki is opened then surely I will work for its development.مھتاب احمد (talk) 09:50, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Khowar

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Khowar might be worth looking into. --Jura1 (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind. It seems that there is some copy-and-pasting of comments and other odd business going on ..

Not sure if the eligibility was verified or not. It appears on some version, but not on others. --Jura1 (talk) 15:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

• The test project seems very active. More than three active (>10 edits) editors per month for the past 16 months, 22 active editors in December, and some of the more active editors making hundreds of edits monthly. --Yair rand (talk) 01:59, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

@Jura1: and @Yair rand: We are working since 16 months and all the required messages have already been translated, Khowar is spoken in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and Xinjiang(China) I humbly request to your goodselves and the all members of languaages committee. Please help us for early approval of Khowar Wikipedia. Regards --Amjad Mehmoodfsc (talk) 09:48, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

• Appeal to Language Committee for early approval/verification of Khowar Wkipedia

Dear sirs/Madam @Amir E. Aharoni:,@Antony D. Green:,@Bèrto 'd Sèra:, @Carlos Manuel Colina:,@Gerard Meijssen:,@Jon Harald Søby:,@Maria Fanucchi:,@MF-Warburg:,@Michael Everson:,@Milos Rancic:,@Oliver Stegen:,@Robin Pepermans:,@Santhosh Thottingal:,@Shanel Kalicharan:,@Zacharias Diakonikolaou:,@Ascánder:,@Huib Laurens:,@Jesse Plamondon-Willard:,@Michal Zlatkovský:,@Sabine Cretella:,@Tangotango:,@Yair rand:,@Ibrahim khashrowdi:,@Csisc:,@Justin:,@OWTB:,@Hydriz:,@GerardM:,@Danny B:,@Ebe123:,@SPQRobin:,@Kaganer:,@Koroğlu:,@Oldstoneage:,@Universal Life:,@Kamazina:,@Bachounda:,@Masssly:,@Franz710:,@WKDx417:,@Ali Saki:,@Angpradesh:,@Ochilov:,@Лорд Бъмбъри:,@Omda4wady:,@Sfic:,@Imdadb:,@Mashoi7:,@1AnuraagPandey:,@Ⲁϩⲙⲉⲧ:,@Cedric tsan cantonais:,@Patronus95:,@देवराज पौडेल:,@Katxis:,@콩가루:,@Илья Драконов:,@Charidri:,@Maathavan:,@राम प्रसाद जोशी:,@Ilja.mos:,,@Aabdullayev851:@Girmitya: @Ghiutun: and @Mogoeilor:Your kind attention is drawn towards creation and approval of Khowar Wikipeid. As you are aware that since 2014 we are working on Khowar Wikipedia project tirelesslyKhowar_Wikipedia_MainPage this project active since 2014 unfortunately the request for Khowar Wikipedia has not yet been Verified as Eligible. And the all 500 [2] have already been translated into Khowar Language by Me. This project qualified for final approval and waiting the humble attention of all members of Language committee as there are no [3] untranslated messages. It is pertinent to mention here that according to the Criteria for final approval, this Khowar Wikipedia incubator project is active from 2014 and now we are in 2016 and waiting for approval. Please check the analysis lists (see automated statistics). Please check the recent activiey here[4]. We are pleased to inform you that the khowar contributors has maintained the current good momentum and we appeal the all Hon’ble Member of Language Committee that the proposal for the creation of Khowar Wikipedia may kindly be accepted /approved; just like [5] was approved in Pakistani and Indian Language.--Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 12:55, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Waiting for response from LangCom, all the requirement has already been complied with, please reply --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 08:45, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support The Khowar Wikipedia, this project is very active and working on this project more than 3 active contributors--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support The Khowar Wikipedia, the reason being that this project is part of larger Perso-Arabic Wikipedia projects.As regards to Jura's apprehension on the authenticity of the work, let me share my own experience. A user requested for support with regard to some display problem on the test Wiki, which I readily did, though I am not a regular editor on that Wiki. I must admit I failed to correct a template which was later requested by another user. These incidents show that there is a team of dedicated contributors. Also, you may note that Rehmat Aziz Chitrali is himself a Khowar poet. Cf: this profile link --Muzammil (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I strong  Support The Khowar language in wiki projects, specially in Wikipedia. It is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, in the Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan. It is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. There are numbers of Khowar speakers in Afghanistan, China, Tajikistan and Istanbul. Rachitrali is a well-known writer, poet and contributor of Khowar Language, and I believe he will drive this wiki project to its successful stage. best regards. عثمان منصور انصاري (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support that the Khowar language should be started so that the khowar people could also get an opportunity to utilize the information in their local language. --Jogi don (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support support this project because our Khowar speaking brothers look very excited in starting this wiki. I think their efforts should be recognized and they should be given the domain of Khowar Wikipedia. My best wishes are with them.مھتاب احمد (talk) 09:50, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support The Khowar wiki project, hopefully, will serve a particular minority group of people. It itself will be a great help on the part of Wikipedia, as this gesture may serve for the promotion of peace in the already turbulent society. Wishing Best Wishes--Drcenjary (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support that the Khowar language should be started --Abualsarmad (talk) 12:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Strongly  Support for Khowar Wikipedia--محمد عارف سومرو (talk) 12:23, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I  Support that the Khowar language should be started .The Khowar wiki project, hopefully, will serve a particular minority group of people. --Abbas dhothar (talk) 13:34, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

 Support Khowar Wikipedia will help the Khowar Language to have a presence on the internet and I hope it will grow to vibrant wikipedia and community. Danish47 (talk) 20:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

 Support This language wiki project will hopefully serve its speakers community and will help them add their share to the world of knowledge. --Jugni (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Phabricator Task T11436 Vertical Writting Support

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11436 Should the task be reassessed given the change in internet landscape in term of vertical writing support in recent years? C933103 (talk) 12:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek 4

There is a great lot of activity in both the proposal page and the incubator wiki. Could you please look into the proposal made? Thanks. Gts-tg (talk) 13:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

How long and how many does it take to prove the momentum is enough for a new Wikipedia?

Hi, does anyone knows how the Wikipedia incubator works in terms of the period of potential "upgrade/split" to have a new language's own site? Is there any documentation that provides the stage of new Wikipedia's independence?

The reason for me to ask this question, is because in Wikimedia Taiwan, we are collaborating with an academic culture institution for helping the indigenous languages to have their own Wikipedia[1]. However, since there are no one in our chapter's board / staff has the related experience of creating a whole new Wikipedia from scratch, it's hard to share with project leaders and professors in the collaborative institutions and language community liaisons of tribes to vision the possible agenda or milestones (e.g. As long as X time and Y volunteers create Z contents, you can have your own Wikipedia! ). This will cause a vicious cycle for the project leaders to motivate skilled and knowledgable language master to train or involve into this Wikipedia pilot.

So I would like to ask does anyone know that the Wikipedian who has recently (i.e. in the past 2 years) successfully make their own Wikipedia for their guidance and best practice sharing. Thank you. --Liang(WMTW) (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

@Shangkuanlc: So why don't you create Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Amis, Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Kavalan, Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Rukai, Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tsou, Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Thao, and so on? Currently for the Taiwanese aborigines languages, I only found Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Kari Seediq (n.b. the creator has been inactive for 2~4 years). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:44, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, @Liuxinyu970226:, thank you for the suggestion. @Reke: and I will read more about how to make a new request and propose for a couple of related aboriginal languages. --Liang(WMTW) (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

How?

Hi, i also want to create a new one please give me steps ممماکب (talk) 17:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Please see incubator:Help:Manual. --MF-W 22:17, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Jamaican Wikipedia

Although I have already being told that the Committee is taking into consideration the approval of Jamaican Wikipedia, just in case, and following what is said in the request page ("If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval."), I would like to ask the Committee to consider the approval of the Jamaican version of Wikipedia. Thank you for your time. --Katxis (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

It was now approved. --MF-W 22:17, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

The interwiki link's name for the Jamaican Wikipedia is 'Patois'. Why? Jamaican is not the only Patois; please read this article and change the name to either 'Jamiekan Patwa', or 'Patwa', or 'Jamiekan'. --Ghiutun 06:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Feedback

The request for info at Talk:Language_committee#Requests_for_new_languages.2FWikipedia_Ancient_Greek_4 has been pending for 1.5 month. Could somebody please provide some feedback? I appreciate that the members of the committee may be busy with other issues, but some feedback would be appreciated, at the very least whether there is an ongoing discussion as to what to decide or not. Thanks. Gts-tg (talk) 19:08, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Wp/olo

As an administrator on the incubator, I would like the LangCom to take a look at this request (Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Livvi-Karelian):

• [6] - Eleven consecutive months of activity
• [7] - Required localization is ready

I think it might be good to start looking for a content verification, or at least make the request eligible. Gr, --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 15:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

• I support. - talk, 11:35, 10 July 2016.

Khowar Wikipedia

Who removed the discussions of Khowar Wikipedia here [8] please revert his edits or the discussions may kindly be moved to Khowar wikipedia request page--Zaheeruddin25 (talk) 05:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

ArchiveBot (per Special:Diff/15688522)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:20, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Confirm Laki Wikipedia

Please check Wikipedia Laki.

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lki

Themilad (talk) 18:24, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Request interchangeability

Could any of these new language requests somehow be interchanged or merged with one other. I am curious! --173.55.239.44 17:45, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Ingush Wikipedia

Hi, Please approve the creation of the Ingush section of Wikipedia. This project has been inactive for a long time, have not been translated the main system messages, as well as numerous mistakes in the names and content of the articles inhibited the project. However, a great deal is corrected now, all main system messages are now translated. Added new articles and pages, including special pages. Categories for all the pages have been created and normalized. Some necessary templates and modules are also created and translated for normal work of Ingwiki. I am ready to continue to work to improve the wiki and make every effort for its development. Ingush Wikipedia must live ! Sincerely, MY Adam-Yourist (talk) 08:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I ask someone, help..Adam-Yourist (talk) 13:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

• There are active participants it is time to carry on your own domain. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 23:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Rotokas Wikipedia

Rotokas is a language with the shortest alphabet (only 12 letters), spoken at Papua New Guinea.

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Rotokas is the language with shortest language, spoken in more than 4000 humans in PNG and other countries.

• ISO Language Code: roo
• Proposed URL: http://roo.wikipedia.org

46.130.144.22 18:50, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome to start a test-project on incubator:Wp/roo. --MF-W 11:13, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Question about Hokkien Wikipedia

This isn't a request, but I'm not sure exactly where to ask this. I'm just wondering why Holopedia is written in POJ Romanization rather than Han characters. My understanding is that Han character based writing, at least for Taiwanese, is far more common than any Romanization based system.--Prisencolin (talk) 05:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

@Prisencolin: Maybe the comment of Sunshine567 at nan:Wikipedia:Chhiū-á-kha#有關Wikia漢字版閩南語維基百科 will help you? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:17, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Status of Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Mongolian_written_in_Mongolian_script

In the request, it said the request is on hold because "Mongolian script is written from top to down and MediaWiki doesn't support it yet. (Actually, even browsers don't support it yet, except Internet Explorer.) The request is on hold until software starts to support it.". However, it is no longer true in the current point of time. The Mediawiki software can also support displayinh top to down text to some extent although the interface is not ready, and both the latest Firefox and Chrome as well as some other browsers all supported top to down writing, as evidenced by navigating [9] in those browsers. Thus I believe the project status shall switch from on hold to verified as the computer support for the language is no longer a problem. C933103 (talk) 23:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2016

Requests for new languages |-class="rflrow" !scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Wiktionary Achinese |   Discussion |data-sort-value="20160825"| 25-Aug-2016 | Zar1084s (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

• Done by me. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:00, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

What it take to move a proposal from "discussion" phase to "verified as eligible"?

There are some really short proposals like the proposal for Wikipedia Reunionese Creole getting verified really quick, while on the other hand there are some proposals like Wikipedia Kupang Malay or Wikipedia European Portuguese 3 having some more detailed introduction/discussion and still not getting verified. What it take to make a proposal being move on to either on-hold or verified as eligible? C933103 (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

@C933103: Since you mentioned Wikipedia European Portuguese 3, I'm wondering what's the problem in Portuguese wikis, only Brazil vs. Portugal? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:25, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Arabic

Hi. Can we get some comments from the Language committee members about the status of the Wikivoyage Arabic request? The test project has been in Incubator since November 2012 and the required localization is at 100% for MediaWiki core and Extensions used by Wikimedia. (Check localization statistics.) The test wiki currently has 729 articles. --Meno25 (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek

The project has been having:

• strong support,
• has been localised,
• has been having 4-6 active editors for 6 months in a row,
• and has 2000+ articles written.

Can somebody from the language committee please proceed with a status update on the proposal's request page? Gts-tg (talk) 06:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

@Gts-tg: I'm just not sure what do you think about #4 of LPP#Requisites for eligibility. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:06, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: I think that there are 2 ways #4 can be addressed. One is via providing some evidence of living speakers, something which the proposal's request page has attempted to do in the best way that it could. The 2nd way, is to simply see the forest for the tree, in other words that there is a strong demand, an active community, there is content, and there are tons of available material in the language for the wiki proposed, so in the event that the proposal is going to be rejected based on a strictly bureaucratic reading then maybe this could lead to a major and constant push for a policy change so that oxymorons like these are avoided. The Latin Wikipedia is one successful example of a Wiki in a classical language (100+k articles). Ancient Greek is too much of an important and core language to not have its own Wikipedia. The argument that Latin Wikipedia (as well as Sanskrit and others) were created before the policy changed in 2008 and ever since no other classical languages can be created, fails to see that the demand for this language to have it's own wiki is not going to go away, no matter how many years or decades go by. Gts-tg (talk) 16:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Ancient Greek Wikisource

I have just accidentally discovered that the request for Ancient Greek Wikisource had been verified as eligible project. The only condition is that English will be the default language for the interface.

I guess this status for the Ancient Greek Wikisource is still valid. But what is standing on the way to receive the final approval.

Sorry, but I don’t have any experiencing dealing with creating new Wikisources from old ones .

--Ousia (talk) 19:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Ousia there does not seem to be any active community there, and even more problematic is the fact that it's not really ancient Greek but mostly modern Greek. However, there is an ancient Greek Wikipedia incubator that is content rich, has strong support and is community engaged (see below). Gts-tg (talk) 06:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

The problem is the lack of activity. It seems there are only 5 pages so far. --MF-W 01:28, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Who can hold up ‎CasetteTapeMaster and his IP socks?

They are all vandaling rfl and incubator pages, creating a number of nonsense Wp/(code) pages. --111.30.229.119 11:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe you should report them to the Incubator admins? --MF-W 21:16, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Livvi-Karelian Wiki (olo)

Подскажите, как быть дальше. На данном этапе в Olo-wiki около 1000 статей, активная работа продолжается. Как нам выйти из инкубатора? There is about 1000 articles in Wiki-OLO. What we should do next? - Ilja.mos 14:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tunica

We've recently started an incubator project for a Tunica-language wikipedia. The language, though listed as dormant by some sites, is not in fact dormant, but is in the process of being revitalized (as can be seen at the Endangered Languages Catalogue and on the Tunica Language wikipedia page itself). Teaching materials, children's books, and other writings are available and the language is being taught to children and adults alike on the Tunica-Biloxi reservation. Despite this, I have been thus far unsuccessful in getting translatewiki to enable translation of wikipedia interface elements, their rationale being that the language is not eligible. They implied that langcom would not consider Tunica eligible, despite the facts above. We're working gathering more editors (we already have at least three and hope to have 6 or 7 soon) and increasing the frequency of article creation.

Please advise.

Plandu (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Khowar

Dear members of Language committee, your kind attention is drawn as under:-

The all messages has already been localized please check here[10]

No untranslated message is available here [11]

Most core message has already been translated here [12]

Please check the Khowar language contributors here[13]

Please check the main category here [14]

Please check the recent changes in khowar wikipedia here[15]

Please check all changes in Khowar Wikipedia here [16]

Please check Khowar Wiki request at Meta here[17]

This is active project [18]

Please check the Main Page of Khowar Wikipedia here[19]

Please check the Khowar Text Editor i.e. Khowar Keyboard created by Rehmat Aziz Chitrali here [20]

Kindly check the automated statistics of Khowar wikipedia here[21]

Please check the list of 134 khowar editors here [22]

Can somebody from the language committee help us for approval of Khowar Wikipedia? --Zaheeruddin25 (talk) 05:05, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 Support This language editors have worked hard in their language , so this language must be approved for Wikipedia Jogi don (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@StevenJ81:,@Ernesztina:,@Ibrahim khashrowdi:,@Amir E. Aharoni:,@Antony D. Green:,@Bèrto 'd Sèra:, @Carlos Manuel Colina:,@Gerard Meijssen:,@Jon Harald Søby:,@Maria Fanucchi:,@MF-Warburg:,@Michael Everson:,@Milos Rancic:,@Oliver Stegen:,@Robin Pepermans:,@Santhosh Thottingal:,@Shanel Kalicharan:,@Zacharias Diakonikolaou:,@Ascánder:,@Huib Laurens:,@Jesse Plamondon-Willard:,@Michal Zlatkovský:,@Sabine Cretella:,@Tangotango:,@Yair rand:,@Ibrahim khashrowdi:,@Csisc:,@Justin:,@OWTB:,@Hydriz:,@GerardM:,@Danny B:,@Ebe123:,@SPQRobin:,@Kaganer:,@Koroğlu:,@Oldstoneage:,@Universal Life:,@Kamazina:,@Bachounda:,@Masssly:,@Franz710:,@WKDx417:,@Ali Saki:,@Angpradesh:,@Ochilov:,@Лорд Бъмбъри:,@Omda4wady:,@Sfic:,@Imdadb:,@Mashoi7:,@1AnuraagPandey:,@Ⲁϩⲙⲉⲧ:,@Cedric tsan cantonais:,@Patronus95:,@देवराज पौडेल:,@Katxis:,@콩가루:,@Илья Драконов:,@Charidri:,@Maathavan:,@राम प्रसाद जोशी:,@Ilja.mos:,,@Aabdullayev851:@Girmitya: @Ghiutun: and @Mogoeilor: We have already completed the requirements for approval of new wikipedia in khowar language spoken in Chitral, Swat, Ghizer(Gilgit Baltistan), Afghanistan, India and Xinjiang of China. Now we need your prayers, support and help for early approval and creation, With profound regards--04:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Being a linguist and inventor or forty languages software and a test admin in this wiki project i request the all respectable members of LangCom. All requirements has already been completed but the project is still waiting for approval. I request the LangCom to consider its approval as early as possible. With profound regards --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 13:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Clerking note: Archived notwithstanding late addition to topic because there was a substantially identical topic introduced by the same contributor still on the page at the time. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)