Meta talk:Babylon/Archives/2022

Translation request

Hi Team, Kindly help in Marking translation of Feminism and Folklore 2022 and Template:Feminism and Folklore header 2022 --Tiven2240 (talk) 04:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Done 🙂 -- Pols12 (talk) 15:30, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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Template:Global message delivery/Targets/Structured Data on Commons

Hello to everyone!

It seems that the second paragraph of the mentionned template ("If you would like to receive notifications…") wasn't marked for translation. — Pacha Tchernof (talk) 06:46, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pacha Tchernof Done ;) Kaganer (talk) 12:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Исправление опечатки там, где непонятно, как это сделать

Здравствуйте, Павел! @Kaganer: Помогите, пожалуйста, с исправлением небольшой опечатки на следующей странице. Там в подзаголовках разделов везде (кроме первого, где указано корректно) написано: «Страниц в [lcode].wikipedia.org». Думается, должно быть «Страницы в [lcode].wikipedia.org». Я впервые встречаюсь с таким интерфейсом, и не получается найти расположение указанной строки для её редактирования. Заранее благодарю! С лучшими пожеланиями, Pacha Tchernof (talk) 07:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pacha Tchernof вижу, постараюсь поправить. Kaganer (talk) 12:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Done Kaganer (talk) 12:35, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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What can I edit?

Hello. I just signed in to Meta and I don't know what to edit. Can you assist me please? I promise to be a good user! ExpositionLaner2835 (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Meta-Wiki is not a final content wiki. You probably rather want to contribute to some Wikimedia projects.

On Meta-Wiki, if you are fluent in another language than English, you may help with translation. -- Pols12 (talk) 18:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Special:Redirect/logid/45581620. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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Upgrade template

Hello. I think we should migrate Template:Stub and make it translatable. I made Template:Stub/sandbox using {{mbox}}. Could you please take a look? Regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Seems me good. 🙂 I think you can go ahead and implement this new version (but please keep legacy version reachable so we can easily import previous translations). -- Pols12 (talk) 21:10, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: Thank you. I was planning on replacing the code, not deleting the page, so everything can be seen in the template's history (and slowly get those translations imported to the relevant translation subpages). Would you prefer that I move Template:Stub to Template:Stub/old instead? —MarcoAurelio (talk) 17:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Replacing the code is fine, no need to move the page. -- Pols12 (talk) 18:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Done. I'll start manually adding those translations now. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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Template:Local oversight

Will someone please mark this template for translation. Thanks. --Magogre (talk) 17:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Already done by MarcoAurelio. Hopefully we'll soon reach the point that these requests don't have to be made thanks to my and Stang's work clearing the previously-overwhelming backlog of pages with pending changes. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:45, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to reply here. Yes, I marked it for translation. Thanks for the update. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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Template:Policy

Please mark it for translation. --jdx ^Re: 15:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Done by MA. -- MF-W 15:50, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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Meta:Translation administrators

Please mark it for translation. --jdx ^Re: 17:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Done. I think you are being a bit to fast to post these, as I would likely have seen and marked the page for translation in a few hours via reviewing the pages with pending changes list at Special:PageTranslation. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 17:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Indeed, I am. ;-) Probably because I had to wait a few days for Global locks above. I will me more patient in the future. --jdx ^Re: 17:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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Translation tags for Celebrate Women pages

Hi, could someone be as kind to help with the translation tags for the four subpages of the landing pages for the International Women Day?

• Celebrate Women/Create an article
• Celebrate Women/Add citations
• Celebrate Women/Improve an article
• Celebrate Women/Translate an article

Thanks! Ciell (talk) 11:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Pppery, Pols12, and 1234qwer1234qwer4:, if you would have time for this request soon, we would be very thankful. I have a CN banner on International Women's Day/Int. Women's Month on hold, waiting for first translations of these pages linked from the landing page of the banner. Ciell (talk) 09:56, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

I just marked Celebrate Women/Improve an article for translation. The other three appear to have been already done by 1234qwer1234qqwer4. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 14:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Ciell (talk) 14:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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Mark

Please mark page Translation_requests for translation, thanks. Stang 00:23, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Done I have also moved the page to Meta: namespace; that page still could probably be improved. -- Pols12 (talk) 19:34, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: Do we have to move all subpages of this page to Meta: namespace? Thingofme (talk) 01:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably, but I’m not sure: some pages are translations for other wikis.

We could also delete them, since these are outdated translations drafts which have now been moved or copied to their final location. -- Pols12 (talk) 12:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I think this page should be marked as historical, as now we can prepare translate markup (in the past, there is no translate extension). I would move it, except for translatable pages. Thingofme (talk) 12:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Please help translate the ISA Tool

I would very much welcome your help for translation in the main languages of the c:Commons:ISA Tool. Translate landing page : https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:ISA

Thanks

Anthere (talk) 22:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

You may want to contact translators mailing list, @Anthere. -- Pols12 (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. This is done ! Anthere (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC).

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Global locks

Could someone mark the page for translation, please? --jdx ^Re: 09:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Done! Best, Sgd. —Hasley 13:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jdx For screenshots, I usually allow translators to replace the image with another screenshot in their own language. -- Pols12 (talk) 22:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: You are right, this is a good idea. I completely forgot about it. However, I believe that the proper, more elegant way of doing this is to use {{Localized media}}: Special:Diff/22907458. --jdx ^Re: 11:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Meta:Translation administrators

Could a native speaker explain what "most translators" means in translation unit #6? It does not make much sense for me, IMO it should be just "translators". --jdx ^Re: 08:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

TU #4 – "translators are not toys". Shouldn't it be "translations are not toys"? --jdx ^Re: 09:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I suppose that means "translators should not be toyed with by making them do useless translations" - useless because the translation-admin will shortly afterwards make changes again that render the translations obsolete already. --MF-W 13:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

• “most translators”: actually, all users can help with translation. Only a little part of them visit regularly Babylon. Actually, this is more a village pump than a noticeboard. But I have no objection to remove “most” as you propose.
• “toys”: idem MF-W: Translation admins “play” with translatable content, not with translation. So translators are impacted, not directly translations.

-- Pols12 (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Translators will not translate in a loop because another has marked to translate a page several times. This comment follows the self-attribution of status. Agree with the opinions above: "most" can disappear. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 10:44, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Translation of global userpage

HEllo! I'm attempting to make it so that if someone views my userpage and their language isn't English, it'll automatically be translated into their own language. I want to know if something like this is possible, and if it is how do I do it? Blaze Wolf (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Also, if this is not the right place to ask this please let me know where to go as it's not immediately obvious to me unlike on enWiki. Blaze Wolf (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I see three possible ways:

• To create a section per language, your visitors could go to their language from the TOC.
• To create subpages for each language (User:Blaze_Wolf/de for German, User:Blaze_Wolf/pt for Portugese…) and add {{languages}} to your main user page.
• To use {{LangSwitch}} inside the main page: the visitors will see the content in same language than the wiki, but they will not be able to see it in another language.

-- Pols12 (talk) 19:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: Thanks for replying to me Pols! I would create a section for each language or a subpage for each language, however my issue is that there are far too many languages for me to translate my userpage into each version (admittedly using Google Translate or deepL since the only language I know is English). I would assume there's no template that will translate it automatically? If there isn't one then I"ll probably just choose the top 5 or top 10 most common languages and translate my userpage into those (and possibly add something that says if they don't see their language listed to contact me here on MetaWiki). Blaze Wolf (talk) 19:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

No, there isn’t any automatic translation system, you have to translate yourself the content. -- Pols12 (talk) 19:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: Alright sounds good. Thank you! Blaze Wolf (talk) 19:48, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct/Initial 2020 Consultations/Japanese

Please unmark Universal Code of Conduct/Initial 2020 Consultations/Japanese for translation, because there are some oddities that make it not ready for translation. whym (talk) 12:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

I have discouraged the translation for now. -- Pols12 (talk) 13:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

While that page is being mentioned, someone should deal with the pending unmarked changes (either by reverting them or by marking them and making the corresponding updates to the translated version). * Pppery * _{it has begun} 16:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Last “tweaks” seem me useless, since the main i18n issues remain (e.g. full table inside a unique unit). A full rework woule be nice, but I don’t want to work on this page for now, since we’re waiting for a WMF review (cf talk page). -- Pols12 (talk) 20:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I've reverted the edits and re-marked the page then. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 00:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Localized Wikipedia page link

Dear translation admins,

I have created {{lwp}} which generate an equivalent interwiki for a given Wikipedia page. Previously, we used to recommend to don’t add tvar arround Wikipedia links to allow translators to link to the equivalent page in their language. So we let [[:en:Creative Commons|license]]. I propose to now recommend [[{{lwp|Creative Commons}}|license]].

Main advantage is translation work would be much easier: translators wouldn’t need to open Wikipedia to find the appropriate title in their language. But Wikidata has some limitations (e.g. not always up to date).

What do you think? -- Pols12 (talk) 16:44, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea to me. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 17:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Done So I have updated Meta:Internationalization guidelines. Pols12 (talk) 15:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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Help:Two-factor authentication

Could a TA split TU #55 into "header" and "body" parts, please? And also mark the page for translation. --jdx ^Re: 07:16, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Done However, this was not required, given several translations were already done. Having isolated heading is not a technical requirement, just a recommedation to facilitate translator work. Pols12 (talk) 21:08, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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Ombuds commission

Shouldn't "ombuds commission" in the first paragraph and the page title be capitalized, as it is later in the text? For me "Ombuds Commission" is a proper name, just like "Board of Trustees" in the first paragraph. --jdx ^Re: 13:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

I think you are right. --Ameisenigel (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Translating a page display title

When we translate a page display title (from English to a different language), should we just put the language code at the end or translate the whole title? For example, if I'm translating "Categories:Issues" to Sinhala, should I translate as "Categories:Issues/si" or "ප්‍රවර්ගය:ගැටලු" ? Jacebrent1 (talk) 12:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jacebrent1: Just throw away the language code. It is a sign for translators, not for readers. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 13:21, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

There is no real consensus. However, translation admins are able to disable title translation. So, if translation is enabled, you may (should, according to me) freely and fully translate it.

In my opinion, as a translator, you should ensure the full page, including its title, is readable in target language.

There have been some related technical discussions. -- Pols12 (talk) 14:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the answers. Jacebrent1 (talk) 02:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

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Template:Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department

Could we have Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department assigned for translation please? I wish to grasp U4C and other committees related to Trust and Safety per UCoC enforcement: it is to support ja language community who doubts if what vessel(s) which outline is so vague as body(ies) could realistically carry out the tall task of Enforcement Guidelines. Of course, we are forming such body(ies) as we proceed, and I wish when would be the best timing to start sharing the page among multiple languages? Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 11:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I have marked {{Wikimedia Foundation Legal department}}, but main content comes from {{WMF Staff}} (you may use filter input to translate only units on first template). -- Pols12 (talk) 13:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12, hi, thank you for fast reply. For filtering, I am not sure how to handle that. Will try and open tl:WMF Staff, then query /Legal (?) Omotecho (talk) 13:55, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

In Translate interface, there is an input field in top-right corner with “Filter list” as placeholder. There, you may type e.g. “General Counsel” to find relevant message (i.e. which one displayed on Template:Wikimedia Foundation Legal department). -- Pols12 (talk) 21:21, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Wonderful to know how to narrow down the translation pair! I have used the very top right input field, which, as you know, the mother group will be the whole meta-universe, too vast to choose from.

I will cherish the gift you gave me, a flash light to see the bigger perspective. So appreciating, it means a lot for an analogue user like me esp a night after a major shake back of 311 Northeast Quake. Thank you so much, Dōmo arigatō, Omotecho (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct/Enforcement guidelines/Voter information

Could someone mark it for translation? It has not been marked for a month. --jdx ^Re: 06:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Doing... -- Pols12 (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Done -- Pols12 (talk) 20:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Translating empty categories

How can I know that I'm creating an empty category in my language before translating the category message? I was translating messages in the 'categories' group from English to Sinhala when I received a notification to refrain from creating empty categories. Jacebrent1 (talk) 06:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

I understand this is not very convenient. Yet, you can check whether a category contains any page visiting it. I mean, Category:Global policy proposals/si is a red link, but you’re still able to click on it. Doing so, you will see page and subcategory list. From any category page, you just have to append /si to the URL in your browser address bar.

You may also visit Sinhala pages and looking for red links in bottom category frame. -- Pols12 (talk) 20:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for answering. Jacebrent1 (talk) 15:48, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Transfer my contributions from my IP address to my user account

Hi everyone, please I would like to know how to transfer my contribution from my IP address to my user account. Since this morning I was translation this metapage from English to French. Unfortunately, I started the work without logging into my account. Please, is it possible to write to the administrators in order to transfer my contribution to my user account Mndetatsin knowing that my IP address is 154.72.167.93. Thanks. Mndetatsin (talk) 12:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think this is possible. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 12:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Minorax,

Thank you for answering.

Please in this case is it possible to delete the French version of that metapage I created with my IP address, so that I will translate it again using my user account. Thanks. Mndetatsin (talk) 08:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mndetatsin, you’re not on the right page for this kind of resquest: you should use Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat.

Anyway, I think your request has no chance to succeed, since all contributions are covered by Wikimedia Foundation Terms of Use, so published undeer CC-By-SA license. -- Pols12 (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12, thank you for answering. Mndetatsin (talk) 19:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation

1. User:Guillaume (WMF)/sandbox, since March 27, 2021 - can probably be ignored as it's a userpage
2. Wikimedia Taiwan/IncuWPTA, since April 15, 2021
3. User:APatro (WMF)/Sandbox Test since August 12, 2021 - can probably be ignored as it's a userpage
4. Les sans pagEs/Report 2019 since September 5, 2021
5. Category:Tools, since October 9, 2021 - can probably ignored as it's at RFD
6. Category:Tools and scripts, since October 9, 2021 - can probably ignored as it's at RFD
7. WikiForHumanRights/Participate since November 23, 2021‎
8. WikiIndaba conference 2021/Scholarships, since December 6, 2021
9. User:Johan (WMF)/MassMessage demonstration since December 21, 2021 - can probably be ignored as it's a userpage
10. Wikimedia Central and Eastern Europe, since January 8, 2022
11. North-West Russia Wiki-Historians User Group/Members, since January 21, 2022
12. Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/5 since January 27, 2022

Could someone mark the changes on those pages for translation please? It seems clear that none of the regular tadmins looking at pending changes (myself included) are willing to do so for whatever reason. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 16:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I marked Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/5, WikiIndaba conference 2021/Scholarships and Wikimedia Central and Eastern Europe for translation. WikiForHumanRights/Participate explicitly says that it's under construction; I'm not sure we should encourage translations of it right now. A couple of the others I wasn't comfortable marking for translation as I didn't understand the source language well enough. /Julle (talk) 00:04, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Pols12 and Julle for handling these. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Now that the above list is mostly done, here are pages with pending changes from February 2022:

1. User:APatro (WMF)/T165128 TestPage, since February 3 - can probably be ignored as it's a userpage
2. User:Johan (WMF)/Test, since February 9 - can probably be ignored as it's a userpage
3. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2021/Post Analysis, since February 12
4. Gender gap/International Women's Day, since February 21
5. Wiki Loves Women/Focus Group/SheSaid Sudan, since February 23
6. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Wiki Workflow, since February 28

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Other pages over a month old:

1. Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2022/List, since March 3
2. Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee/Call for applicants, since March 4
3. Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee/Charter, since March 4
4. Celebrate Women/Improve an article, since March 6
5. Celebrate Women/Add citations, since March 7
6. Wiki Naval Ayiti, since March 10

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 15:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Rest of March 2022:

1. Template:Usurpation requested, since March 13
2. Template:Wikivoyage/Logo/2013/Commentinfo/i18n, since March 15
3. Celebrate Women/Create an article, since March 23
4. WikiFranca/Membres, since March 23
5. Wikimedia Central and Eastern Europe, since March 25
6. Universal Code of Conduct/Enforcement guidelines/Voter information, since March 26

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Oldest pages proposed for translation

Since my previous listing of the oldest pages with pending changes was helpful at bringing attention to them, let's try a list of the oldest pages proposed for translation. Unlike before, user pages and template sandboxes are not included on this list.

1. Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, since April 29, 2021 (is tagged {{draft}})
2. Training modules/wikidata/library and a bunch of other Wikidata-related training modules pages, since August 2021
3. Template:WikimediaNEMTable/i18n, since November 9, 2021
4. Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Ideas, since November 27, 2021 (is tagged {{draft}})
5. Movement Strategy/Updates/2021/49, since November 30, 2021 (is tagged {{draft}})
6. Movement Strategy/Updates/init, since November 30, 2021 (is tagged {{draft}})
7. Grants:Project/Rapid/Oral citation in Paiwan language, since December 9, 2021
8. Indic Wikisource Proofreadthon March 2022/Rules, since December 10, 2021 (is tagged {{draft}})
9. Grants:Project/Rapid/NANöR/Skill Development Needs Assessment For Arabic Wikipedia and Arabic Wikisource, since December 15, 2021
10. Help:Table, since December 23, 2021
11. Help:Redirect, since December 31, 2021

It may well be that some of these pages shouldn't be marked for translation (either because they are drafts or because the translate markup was indiscriminately copied from somewhere else), we still shouldn't leave pages sitting around in the backlog for months unattended. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

I frequently check “Pages proposed for translation”.

• I never mark a page with a {{draft}} or {{under construction}} template, to limit useless work.
• About training modules, I would like first to work on the software behind them because the supported syntax is limited.
• I have also skipped Help pages because I think we should take time to merge them into MediaWiki.org, in the same way it has been done for many other help pages.

Note we also have a new issue with grant pages. -- Pols12 (talk) 00:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

New list:

1. Help:Interwiki linking, since January 9
2. Help:Navigational template, since February 19 (is tagged {{draft}})
3. Grants:Programs/Wikimedia Alliances Fund/Test-Rapid/Final Report, since March 9
4. Movement Strategy/Culture of Documentation, since March 15 (is tagged {{draft}})
5. WikiGap Challenge/Prizes, since March 16 (is tagged {{under construction}})

I am slowly clearing this backlog myself, but if anyone else wants to help out that would be nice. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Help translating Template:Policy-cross-project

I created Template:Policy-cross-project yesterday, but I am a Chinese user so I only translated in Chinese. Can anyone help translating Template:Policy-cross-project? Choi Chin Long 10:19, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Add latin version to

Hello, for the native name of Nogai is "Ногайша" used. But many Nogais in Turkey, Romania and other countries use latin alphabet and I will be happy when there is also the latin version: Nogayşa / Ногайша TayfunEt. (talk) 19:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Nogai language is not supported on Meta-Wiki. Your request should go on Translatewiki.net support.

Though, note the configured script for Nogai is Cyrilic, per initial request. Using Latin for self-name would be inconsistent.

A solution could be to add a nog-latn language, but each page should then be translated twice (for each variant). -- Pols12 (talk) 21:22, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Help:Two-factor authentication

The page has not been marked for translation for almost two months. --jdx ^Re: 15:06, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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Page move disaster II

We seem to have had a repeat of Meta talk:Babylon/Archives/2021#Page move disaster with Grants:APG/Funds Dissemination Committee/History/Summary and Grants:APG/Funds Dissemination Committee/Framework for the Creation and Initial Operation of the FDC/Summary @1234qwer1234qwer4: Could you please help resolve this? * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, that seems significantly easier since only translation units need to be moved. Doing... ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Done: Unmarked from translation, moved units, then re-marked again. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Mass moving translations

@Muxlisaxon Abdumalikova created a number of uz-cyrl translations but they doesn't seem to be written in Cyrillic. Can an Uzbek speaker have a look and move them somehow? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 16:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Translation pages not updating after content deletion - T312293

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T312293

It would appear that once a translation is deleted (e.g. Translations:Mailing lists/Overview/2/id) the corresponding main translatable page (Mailing_lists/Overview/id) is not immediately updated. This is not the usual behaviour, as the JobQueue(?) used to propagate the changes pretty quickly. I've filed task T312293 to inform of this. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I have a hunch that the issue here is that all language=id translations for that page have been deleted which in turn means that the Translation extension has lost track of the fact that there once were language=id translations which produced Mailing lists/Overview/id. I will add this theory to the phabricator bug report too. -- BDavis (WMF) (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Moving The Africa Narrative to the AfroCreatives WikiProject

Dear Translation Admins,

Please I would love to rename/move https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Africa_Narrative to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject while retaining the subpages across the translations it currently exists on.

If you would also deem it fit as per my role as a Wikimedian in Residence at the Africa Narrative to have the translationadmins user-level access, I will be glad.

I appreciate your time in helping out with this and every other thing you do for the Wikimedia projects.

Danidamiobi (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Done, along with subpages The Africa Narrative/Countries and The Africa Narrative/Participate. --MF-W 22:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Danidamiobi. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much MF-Warburg. I am so grateful. I would be so glad if the Discussion and these could be moved too:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Volunteers

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Countries

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Resources Danidamiobi (talk) 07:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

If you click on these links, you'll clearly see they were already renamed. --MF-W 18:31, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much @MF-Warburg.

Please, can you help me mark this sections for translation

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Volunteers#Local_Organizers and all sections of these 3 pages so the volunteer editors can start translating.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Afro_Creatives_WikiProject_%2Bfilm

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Resources

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:AfroCreatives_WikiProject

Thank you so much. Danidamiobi (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I've marked the middle two pages for translation. For the first page it's not clear why a list of names needs to be translated, and for the last page it's generally against convention to make talk pages translatable. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery Thank you very much.

- The list of people's names are actually the list of local organizers. We still want to replace one more name there and I noticed removing that name was only reflecting on the English translation and not the rest. So if we add or remove a local organizer on the English Meta, we want to be able make that update on the other languages as well.

- For translating talk pages, can you help mark only the text paragraph or could you kindly advice the best practices for multilingual projects of this kind?

I appreciate your time. Danidamiobi (talk) 08:07, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

For the first page: I seem to have misunderstood you; anyway it appears Ameisenigel's already handled it.

For the talk page, I'm not following what you are trying to do. Is your intent just to translate "Have a question? Want to start a discussion? This is the place.", or also to translate talk page comments? If you are doing the former, the typical approach is to have the talk page transclude another translatable page, which I would be happy to set up. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 13:21, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I can't stop saying this.

You are spot on. I meant just to translate "Have a question? Want to start a discussion? This is the place."

Please, could you also help me mark this section for translation?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Afro_Creatives_WikiProject_%2Bfilm&action=submit#New_to_editing_Wikipedia?

Ameisenigel's has not marked the list of volunteers for translation as we still can't remove #Ceslause# from the list of the volunteers in French and Arabic.

Thank you. Danidamiobi (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I've marked AfroCreatives WikiProject/Afro Creatives WikiProject +film#New to editing Wikipedia? for translation. The rest of what is going on here is too confusing for me, so I'll back out an let another translation admin watching this page handle it. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 17:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

The talk page thing needs to be handled with templates, if at all. For now, I'd suggest to refrain from making more pages translatable and instead to focus on actually putting content into them (e.g. AfroCreatives WikiProject/Resources is still empty). --MF-W 12:27, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I’ve set up Talk:AfroCreatives WikiProject for translation, but reworded the first paragraph to avoid the self-link, and dropped the second one, as thanks to DiscussionTools manually signing the messages should no longer be necessary (at least not for the vast majority of junior users, and seniors should already know to sign their messages). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Actually, each change in source page must be marked for translation to apply to translation pages, whether it is inside translate tags or outside them. Content inside translate tags should then be manually updated by translators, whereas content outside translate tags is automatically updated by FuzzyBot. That’s why we do not include usernames inside translate tags: this would require translators to manually update each translation page, whereas FuzzyBot could update them automatically. --Pols12 (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Translation moves, again

For reference, I have found yet another failed/incomplete translation move at Wikimedia Slovakia User Group/Reports/2013/Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2013 (see Special:Permalink/18074873#Move_of_Wikimedia_Slovakia_User_Group). Since I have had some experience with this kind of issue from the two or three times it has come up before, I was relatively confident with it already; however, this time, due to an additional complication I did make a mistake which can be seen at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Reports/2013/de&action=history. This was because user AdiGHustler19 had posted a set of Slovakian translations onto a /de subpage, and while I had noticed that, I accidentally used the same script to move those translation units to match the new article title still with the /de suffix even after specifically excluding them to handle later at first. Noticing it midway, I then just deleted the unit pages (both the ones I had already moved by accident and the ones the script hadn't reached yet) which already had a translation at Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2013/sk by a different user since the (actually) German translations of AdiGHustler19 appeared to be low-quality in a set of cases; the remaining translations by the user I moved to the correct /sk titles manually after marking them fuzzy. Sorry for the inconvenience; everything should be fixed now. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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Translation request

I tried to send notices via Special:NotifyTranslators about VisualEditor/Newsletter/2022/August (seven short sentences – could be the fastest translation job you do this month, if anyone's interested ;-) ). It doesn't seem to have worked. I got the usual completion notice about the messages being queued, but (hours later) no messages appear to have actually been sent. I'm not sure where to find the queue or how to figure out whether it's broken again, or if I just didn't do something right. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It's not your fault. We are tracking this issue in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T315889. Nikerabbit (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Nikerabbit. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

The issue has been fixed. Nikerabbit (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

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Translations review

I'm quite an active translator here on Meta. My question is, how can I get my own translations reviewed? Or is this not possible? Thanks for your help. Lois131 (talk) 09:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

You cannot mark yourself your own translations as “reviewed”. Anyone else can do it. Or, if someone edit your translation, you can then mark it as reviewed. -- Pols12 (talk) 13:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12 Thanks, okay. But then it's what's above the translations on the left: State: In progress, Needs updating, Proofreading, Ready, Published. I usually mark translations as Ready. Thanks :) Lois131 (talk) 15:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

That’s okay. Actually, I believe this feature is rarely used. -- Pols12 (talk) 15:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I do quite often. Because there are few active translators in Hungarian, and I see that translation is going slowly. My time is limited at the moment, but I will have more time this weekend. Lois131 (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Deletion request

Could an admin delete Movement Strategy and Governance/Termbase/Table/zh-hant? We made mistake during imports and accidentally used zh-hant instead of zh. Context in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316612. Nikerabbit (talk) 07:44, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nikerabbit: Done. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

request for review for WMF_Global_Ban_Policy/fr

Hello, I recently translated to French this policy, But I am not sure about some of the translations, could someone please check, Thanks SiriusSeth (talk) 18:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

“Your” translation even contain an ad for the machine translation service you have used. Please do not use any machine translation tool without carrefully reviewing yourself the translation; else that is not helpful. -- Pols12 (talk) 20:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

user:Pols12 I didn’t used Google Translate or Deepl (I use rarely) I translated carefully with my English-french dictionary, Because automatic translater do literal translation, (exemple : Skyline - Ligne de ciel alors que c’est Horizon) En tout cas merci pour votre/ton avis Thanx for this review SiriusSeth (talk) 06:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation

Since the pages with pending changes backlog is starting to get out of control again, reposting Meta_talk:Babylon/Archives/2022#Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation

1. User:Guillaume (WMF)/sandbox, since March 27, 2021
2. User:APatro (WMF)/T165128 TestPage, since February 3, 2022
3. Wiki Project Med/App, since April 8, 2022
4. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2022-04-21 Conversation with Trustees, since April 25, 2022
5. Wikimedia CEE Spring, since May 15, 2022
6. Wikimedia CEE Spring 2022, since May 15, 2022
7. Wikimedia Language Diversity, since May 22, 2022
8. Template:Doppelganger, since May 31, 2022

(Feel free to ignore the user pages at the top, listing them only for completeness' sake)

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 21:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

June 2022:

1. Community Insights/Frequently asked questions, since June 2, 2022
2. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022, since June 3, 2022
3. Content Partnerships Hub/Background, since June 3, 2022
4. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022/Schedule, since June 4, 2022
5. WikiConvention francophone, since June 5, 2022
6. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit, since June 7, 2022
7. Wikimedia Canada, since June 7, 2022
8. Global blocks, since June 8, 2022
9. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee, since June 9, 2022
10. Steward requests/Global permissions/Header, since June 11, 2022
11. No open proxies, since June 11, 2022
12. Hubs/Ongoing, since June 11, 2022
13. Wiki Loves Literature, since June 12, 2022
14. Wikidata, since June 12, 2022
15. Grants:Conference/Preload, since June 23, 2022
16. Grants:Regions/CEE and Central Asia, since June 26, 2022
17. Grants:Project/Rapid/Bachounda/Arabic Hub - regional community support structure, since June 27, 2022
18. Template:Content Partnerships Hub/Header, since June 30, 2022

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 15:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2022-2023/draft/Your Input, since July 1
2. Communications/Organization communications translators group, since July 1
3. Wikimedia Enterprise, since July 4
4. Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos/Resources, since July 5
5. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022/Reading, since July 8
6. Talk:Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Registration, since July 8
7. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2022-07-14 Conversation with Trustees, since July 11
8. Wikimedia Navigator User Group/Annual Report, since July 11
9. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Interview Questions, since July 12
10. Grants:Knowledge Sharing, since July 12
11. Wiki Loves Africa 2022, since July 15
12. Wikimedia South Africa, since July 15

Thanks. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 14:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. ESEAP Hub, since July 16
2. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Wiki Workflow, since July 18
3. Wikimedia Österreich, since July 19
4. Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2022/Organizing Team, since July 19
5. Template:Universal Code of Conduct/Navbox, since July 19
6. Wiki Loves Women/Focus Group/SheSaid Sudan, since July 20
7. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Results, since July 20
8. ESEAP Conference 2022, since July 24
9. ESEAP Conference 2022/Attend, since July 24
10. Movement Strategy/Initiatives/Funding for Underrepresented Communities, since July 25 (is tagged {{draft}})
11. Movement Strategy/Initiatives/Increased Wikimedia Awareness, since July 26 (is tagged {{draft}})
12. Wikimedia Community of Saint Petersburg User Group, since July 28
13. QW2022/call for project management, since July 29
14. ESEAP Conference 2022/Submissions, since July 31

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 16:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7, since August 1
2. The Wikipedia Library/Newsletter/May-June 2022, since August 1
3. Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2022-2023/Goals, since August 4
4. Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2022-2023/draft/Goals, since August 4
5. IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/IP Editing Restriction Study, since August 5
6. Education/News/July 2022/EtnoWiki edit-a-thon in Poland, since August 6
7. Wikimedia Endowment, since August 7
8. The WikiVibrance Project, since August 14

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 18:57, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Movement Strategy/Initiatives/Methodology to improve User Experience, since August 3
2. Movement Strategy/Initiatives/Resources for Newcomers, since August 3
3. ItWikiCon/2020/Under the hood of a cozy online conference, since August 16
4. Template:Main Page/Sisterprojects, since August 19
5. WikiArabia 2022, since August 22
6. Flow, since August 23
7. Wikiarchaeologist, since August 23
8. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Announcement/Election Compass page, 16-08-2022, since August 23

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Template:Policy, since August 25
2. Template:Policy-cross-project, since August 25
3. Template:Policy-global, since August 25
4. Template:User groups, since August 25
5. Help:Two-factor authentication, since August 26
6. Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2022, since August 27
7. Wikimedia Foundation elections, since August 28
8. Wikimedia Chat, since August 29
9. Wikimedia Foundation elections/Single Transferable Vote, since August 29
10. Research:Index, since August 30

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:23, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Voter eligibility guidelines, since August 29
2. WikiAfrica Hour/Team, since September 1
3. CopyPatrol, since September 2
4. Grants:Regions/Northern and Western Europe/Committee Open Call 2022/Candidates, since September 2
5. WikiDonne, since September 5
6. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Wiki Workflow, since September 6
7. Privacy policy/Subpoena FAQ, since September 6
8. Unregistered user, since September 6
9. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Community Voting, since September 6
10. Grants:Regions/Northern and Western Europe/Committee Open Call 2022, since September 6
11. Wiki In Africa/Wiki Loves Women, since September 7
12. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Results/Affiliate organization voting, since September 7
13. Grants:Regions/LATAM and The Caribbean/LAC Committee Open Call 2022/Candidates, since September 7
14. Content Partnerships Hub/Helpdesk, since September 9
15. Content Partnerships Hub/International partnerships, since September 9
16. Wikimedia Navigator User Group, since September 11
17. Hack4OpenGLAM, since September 11
18. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Interview Questions, since September 12
19. Programs & Events Dashboard, since September 13
20. Wiki Kouman, since September 14

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 17:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: * Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

LinguaLibre/SignIt

Could someone help ? We are two users trying to set up translation tags on that page but we are not sure of what we are doing, see the history and talk page.

Also, the page should be renamed Lingua Libre/SignIt, as a sub project of Lingua Libre. Yug (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I have moved the page as requested. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:06, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Grant editcontentmodel right for translation administrators

Greetings,

The Language engineering team has implemented a new functionality that allows translation of JSON content called message bundles. Message bundles contain strings in key-value JSON format representing a message group that can be translated. Each key represents a translation unit and the value is the translation unit source that can be translated.

For this feature, we’ve added a new page content model: Translatable message bundle. To create a message bundle, user’s can create a page with JSON content, and then change the content model to translatable message bundle. We hope that this will be used by volunteers to translate courses from WikiLearn, and in the future to provide localisation support for Scribunto modules.

Changing the content model requires the editcontentmodel right which is currently only available for administrators on Meta-Wiki. There has been some plan to enable it for other users but that hasn’t happened yet.

We would like to grant the editcontentmodel right to translation admins group on Meta-Wiki so that the message bundle feature can be utilized. We will go ahead and do this after one week if there are no objections.

APatro (WMF) (talk) 14:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

• I kind of thought about this proposal when Meta:Requests for bot status/WikiLearnBot occurred. This could be a possible solution for 'WikiLearnBot'; it can be granted TA so I support this proposal. Kind regards, — Tulsi 24x7 15:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
• Why can't users immediately create a page as a "translatable message bundle"? --MF-W 17:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

  My tests reveal that creating a page directly with the content model as translate-messagebundle also requires the edicontentmodel right. See this proposal that requests that the existing editcontentmodel be broken down into two rights with one allowing users to create pages with non-default content models. APatro (WMF) (talk) 09:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  @APatro (WMF) so, fix that? — xaosflux ^Talk 13:33, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  ..And not by needing another permission, by doing using the same functionality that is extant for SCSS, CSS, JS, JSON already. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:34, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

• I would prefer T300497 get implemented and then translation admins get setcontentmodel instead on general principle of least privilege grounds, but I guess don't have a formal objection to this as is. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

  T300497 has been implemented and is available for use on Meta-Wiki. APatro (WMF) (talk) 09:21, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  Regarding the setcontentmodel right, there is no such right as of now. I think its being explored in T248294 APatro (WMF) (talk) 09:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  Oops, that was the link I meant to post, must have copy-pasted the wrong thing. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 13:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

• Proposal crossposted to Meta:Babel#Grant editcontentmodel right for translation administrators. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
• It seems like this already came up somewhere else. The workflow to build these new pages should be build such that it works without needing this. A hook may be needed. For examples, pages can already be created directly in to other content models such as JS, JSON, CSS, SCSS. The workflow shouldn't require manually authoring a JSON page, then manually changing it to another content model - what is the benefit of putting this extra work in to this worflow? — xaosflux ^Talk 13:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  That all being said, I don't have a specific problem with TA's having changecontentmodel access here - but I don't like this workflow and don't want to have to give TA to everyone that needs to workaround this wonky workflow. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:33, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  My tests reveal that creating a page directly with the content model as translate-messagebundle also requires the edicontentmodel right which is disabled for normal users on Meta-Wiki. See: T85847

  See this proposal that requests that the existing editcontentmodel be broken down into two rights with one allowing users to create pages with non-default content models. APatro (WMF) (talk) 14:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  @APatro (WMF) sure - today, I'm saying: fix that, just the same way that users can create pages in all sorts of content models already. Building out this entirely new content model should come with building out all the tools needed to support it. For example, if you go to create User:APatro (WMF)/apage.json, it gets made as a json page - not because you have a special permission, but because there is a workflow for that that just makes it work. Also don't see why you want users to create a page in JSON, then have to go and change it to TMB. Why not just make creating TMB's directly be a thing that doesn't require each project that would ever use this to have to worry about this? — xaosflux ^Talk 15:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for your input.

  Adding this right to translation administrators is the first step to having this feature generally available. We are considering using the title suffix approach for future integrations but have not come up with a good pattern that would be suitable for e.g. for WikiLearn.

  APatro (WMF) (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

  Even if this were done, I doubt we are going to start making anyone that wants to contribute a translation in to a TAdmin, so how are translating editors suppose to even use this? Is there some documentation of the end user workflow (directions and procedures for contributing that worked in the lower environments) for this? — xaosflux ^Talk 13:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

  The process would be similar to how we handle translatable pages.

  The translation administrator prepares the message bundle. After that they change the content model of the page containing the message bundle to translatable message bundle. The strings in the message bundle will then be available for translators to translate. Individual translators need not have the editcontentmodel right. APatro (WMF) (talk) 14:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

  @APatro, how does a Translatable-message-bundle page look, in read mode? If JSON is displayed as raw-text, I think this kind of pages should not be in main namespace. So creating a dedicated namespace would solve this issue. -- Pols12 (talk) 14:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

  We want to provide translation administrators a general feature to create a message bundles for translation. While we will use this for WikiLearn for now, in the future, we will have more options to create a message bundle automatically.

  Using namespaces or subpages is the plan for more use-cases we will have in the future, such as lua modules and gadgets but it makes sense to keep the WikiLearn courses in the main namespace. APatro (WMF) (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

  We've created: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317786 to improve the way message bundles are displayed and edited. APatro (WMF) (talk) 14:24, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

•  Weak support lots of reservations above that this should be done in another way, but as this won't be needed by editors making translations, just those aleady doing the markup, not seeing a big problem. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Why can't I use Google Translate?

I don't have many friends who speak other languages Toad4707 (talk) 03:11, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Presumably because if readers wanted a Google Translated version, they could run the English text through Google translate themselves so doing it for them is counterproductive. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 13:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Because it produces poor-quality translations. We expect better translations from human translators. -- Pols12 (talk) 20:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Registration

Could someone do something with this page? It's been pending translation admin action since June, and wasn't actioned when I brought it up in the standard oldest pages reports. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 00:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Given “On the format of this very page” discussion, I don’t want to handle such a messy page. I let WMF staff deal with that one. -- Pols12 (talk) 02:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

The page content has finaly changed, and the page has been removed from translation system. --Pols12 (talk) 14:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: --Pols12 (talk) 14:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Come annullare l'iscrizione?

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T320720

Purtroppo non ho sufficiente tempo per tradurre: desidero cancellarmi dalla lista, ma non ci riesco. Contrariamente a quando leggo, nella pagina Special:TranslatorSignup non è possibile cancellarsi. Grazie. Il Tuchino (talk) 05:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

@Il Tuchino: It’s not obvious, but you can unsubscribe there: just set all three languages to Choose a language, and you won’t get any notifications. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 13:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation (October 2022)

Splitting a new section and resolving the old one to keep the size of this page down. Next up:

1. Leadership Development Working Group, since September 15
2. Mix'n'match/Import, since September 15
3. Campaigns/Foundation Programs Team, since September 20
4. Global locks, since September 20
5. Wikimedia Indonesia, since September 21
6. Code for Africa Climate Change Project/Participation, since September 25
7. Code for Africa Climate Change Project/Programme, since September 25
8. Limits to configuration changes, since September 26
9. WikiGap, since September 27
10. Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia, since September 28

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Automatic anchors for translation pages

The Language team has implemented a feature to automatically add source language heading anchors to translation pages. With this feature manual anchors are no longer needed for the purpose of being able to link to a specific section of a translatable page.

This will be deployed here very soon, it's part of this weeks deployment train. Translation pages are not updated immediately to have these anchors, only when they are updated for any reason. We may consider running a script to refresh all translation pages eventually.

Please let us know if you notice any issues or have other feedback. This feature is tracked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62544 Nikerabbit (talk) 14:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Small correction: it's part of this weeks train (1.40.0-wmf.1), not last week's as I claimed. Nikerabbit (talk) 07:17, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I am aware now and will track the new behaviour is satisfying avoiding manual duplication.

Christian 🇫🇷 FR (talk) 11:24, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Fuzzybot at Wikispecies

Please have a look at this talk about a Turkish language Localization subpage on Wikispecies. The problem involves edits made by @FuzzyBot.

Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk) (Bureaucrat, interface admin and translation admin at Wikispecies), 10:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Ideas?

@Pppery and @Pols12, do you guys have any idea why "Meta-Wiki" and "Media-Wiki" appear in English on the translated versions of this template: Template:Project lists? ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 13:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Done They were not marked for translation in main templates. Instead of adding them for translation, I have added MediaWiki interface messages as fallbacks. By the way, I have removed the local translatability for other project names: it is simpler to use interface messages instead. -- Pols12 (talk) 21:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Pols12. By the way, how do I add Urdu names for them as they happen to still appear in English. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 05:52, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

That happens on Translatewiki.net: [1] and [2]. You need an account there. Pols12 (talk) 11:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks my friend @Pols12. I registered there and made some beginning translations but idk by when would my account be upgraded :) @Amire80 can likely help since they are a 'crat there. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12, this is still in English. I translated these terms more than a week ago on Translatewiki. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 13:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheAafi, translations have well been imported from Translatewiki.net. I now see them in Urdu in /ur subpage of the template and on transcluding pages. There was probably a caching issue. If you still see English terms, your browser has maybe cached the pages, so you need to force a full refrech in your browser. -- Pols12 (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Please mark for translation

Hi,

I have added some lines to Template:Movement Charter/Sidemenu, can someone please mark them for translation so they become visible for the translators? Thanks! Ciell (talk) 08:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Done by Abbad. -- Pols12 (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Mark for translation

Can anyone please mark Project Korikath for translation? I want to translate it. Mehediabedin (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Done -- Pols12 (talk) 22:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

@Pols12: Can you mark for translation to its template Template:Project Korikath/Nav also? I am going to translate both because I can't translate the Navigation bar. Mehediabedin (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Done 🙂 -- Pols12 (talk) 22:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

¿Hay ninguna pagina para traducir? (Any pages to translate?)

Yo estaba preguntarse sí hay es un lista de pagina necesito traducir. ¿Esta ahí un? (I was wondering if there is a list of pages to translate. Are there ones?)

Please don’t mind my bad spanish

SikiWtideI (talk) 22:41, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

@SikiWtideI: Special:PageTranslation --Ameisenigel (talk) 07:54, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

• Special:PageTranslation first lists pages which requests to be translatable, but which aren’t (yet).
• You may use Special:Translate which defaults display last translatable units. Click on the “All” link in the top of the page to see all translatable pages with there progression in your language.
• Finally, you may use Special:LanguageStats to see all translatable pages (sometimes gathered in Aggregate Groups) in a table, with their progression in your language.

Please note those 3 pages contain many outdated content with a really low translation priority. We do not have a serious priority handling. Pols12 (talk) 21:51, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

UI string question

I’m wondering what is the policy here for UI strings, since about 50% of the left sidebar is untranslated in my language. After much digging I found, for example, where the localized label for Research should have been defined, but there’s no option to create it. Then I went up to the English label and found

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

This page provides interface text for the software on this wiki, and is protected to prevent abuse. To add or change translations for all wikis, please use translatewiki.net, the MediaWiki localisation project.

which is misleading, since I was on translatewiki and neither the message key nor the string “Research” is there. How do we get these strings translated? (I just checked German and they’re all translated, so this definitely should be possible, somehow.) Thanks! — Al12si (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

The normal location to translate user interface messages is indeed Translatewiki.net. However, the messages used on MediaWiki:Sidebar are wiki-specific and so must be translated locally. You may open an edit request on each message’s talk page, or give all translations as a whole at Meta:RfH. -- Pols12 (talk) 21:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation (November 2022)

1. Universal Code of Conduct/Revised enforcement guidelines/Comparison, since October 1
2. Wikimedia South Africa, since October 1
3. Wikimedians of Mainland China, since October 1
4. Wikiquote, since October 1
5. Best practices for translatewiki events, since October 2
6. Superprotect, since October 3
7. Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Results, since October 8
8. Bureaucrat, since October 9
9. Leadership Development Working Group/Community Call Invitation, since October 11
10. Capacity development for underrepresented communities, since October 12
11. Communications/Organization communications translators group, since October 12
12. Content Partnerships Hub/Needs assessment, since October 14
13. Grants, since October 14
14. Movement Strategy/Forum/Proposal, since October 15

It seems no one else has been keeping this backlog down in the month I was on a wikibreak from Meta. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 04:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery, Let not forget me keeping away a number of translations getting added to backlog lol. I hope you had a nice wikibreak. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 16:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I tried to mark Wikimedia South Africa but I feel there are some intricacies so I'd watch a master translator fixing this. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Wikimedians of Mainland China, since October 1
2. Wikimedians of Tamazight User Group, since October 8 (seem to have missed these two before)
3. Wiki Loves Women/SheSaid, since October 18
4. Content Partnerships Hub/Events, since October 20
5. Content Partnerships Hub/Expert committee, since October 20
6. Unregistered user, since October 21
7. Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki, since October 21
8. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2022-10-20 Conversation with Trustees, since October 24
9. Wiktionary, since October 24
10. Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2022, since October 25
11. Template:WikiFranca/Menu, since October 25
12. Steward requests/Global/lock-header, since October 27
13. Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network, since October 31

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Communications/Sound Logo/Sound collaboration, since October 22
2. Wikimedia Community User Group Kilimanjaro, since November 2
3. Grants:Regions/LATAM and The Caribbean/LAC Committee Open Call 2022, since November 4
4. Explore Africa, since November 9
5. The AfroCine Project, since November 11
6. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit, since November 14
7. Community Tech, since November 14
8. Slovakia-Taiwan Editathon/2nd, since November 14

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:38, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network, since October 31
2. Sustainability Initiative, since November 12
3. Leadership Development Working Group/Participate, since November 17
4. WikiConvention francophone, since November 21
5. Mental health resources, since November 22
6. Wikimedia Foundation Community Programs team, since November 23
7. Indic Wikisource proofread-a-thon November 2022/Prize, since November 27
8. Wiki Loves Women/SheSaid/Participating Communities, since November 28
9. ESEAP Hub, since November 29
10. Wiki Loves Women/SheSaid/Resources and Tools, since November 21
11. Registered user, since November 30

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:48, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Next up:

1. Volunteer Response Team/Recruiting, since December 3
2. WikiForHumanRights, since December 9
3. Wikimedia Czech Republic, since December 12
4. Wikimedia Ukraine, since December 14
5. Movement Strategy and Governance/Movement Charter Ambassadors Program/Conversations, since December 15
6. Movement Strategy and Governance/Movement Charter Ambassadors Program/resources/templates/Ambassadors facilitation guide template, since December 19
7. The Capacity Exchange initiative - cXc, since December 21

Thank you everyone for keeping this queue at a manageable level - 32 pages pending marking for translation is the lowest I've seen in a while. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:17, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

* Pppery * As a Movement Charter Ambassador, I marked a number of MC pages for translation and took care of this conversations page until non-English content was included into it which hasn't been fixed so far despite me asking a number of times. Not sure what made you bring it here. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 18:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I brought it up here because the page has been pending marking for translation since Special:Diff/24237976, which is over a month ago. I was unaware of any of the above context. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Pppery: could you please prepare a new list of pages needing to be marked for translation but in a different section. I would be glad to take care of some. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 12:12, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Done, although we've basically cleared the entire old pages backlog now, and you may want to just visit Special:PageTranslation to see all pages needing to be marked. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 15:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Ameisenigel (talk) 07:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)