User talk:Nemo bis/Archive/4

Contributions footer

Hi, Nemo. I'm trying to figure out how to put the standard global contributions bar at the bottom of the Special:Contributions pages on my wiki (Judeo-Spanish or Ladino Wikipedia). I copied in the template from Simple English Wikipedia, and it's now sitting at lad:MedyaViki:Sp-contributions-footer. (I do have to translate it.) But I don't know how to get it to actually appear on the Contributions pages. Can you possibly help me? Thanks.

While I'm asking questions: How do I get the extension adding links to personal sandboxes installed on that wiki? StevenJ81 (talk) 17:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nemo bis: I think you were away when I first asked this, so I'm pinging to ask again. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Wishlist Survey template

Nemo, I reverted your edit to the Wishlist Survey template. The survey is important for our team. I know that there are previous wishlists, but I don't think that our current survey should be haunted by old lists. The Community Tech team is new, and we want to set a standard process for how we define and prioritize projects. Pointing people to other pages will confuse the people that we're talking to right now, and I think it's disruptive. Please don't do that again. DannyH (WMF) (talk) 20:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

DannyH (WMF), WTF is going on? Not only it's inappropriate to just cancel someone's edit because you simply do not like it, you have also protected the template so now it's impossible for non-admins to e.g. make it translatable so that people who do not speak English could understand what it says. --Base (talk) 20:39, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Base, good point. I wasn't thinking about the translations. I unprotected the template. DannyH (WMF) (talk) 20:49, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks :) Full protection is a harsh way of stopping something and it stops not only unwelcome stuff. --Base (talk) 21:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. Total overreaction on my part. DannyH (WMF) (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you would know

See my question at Talk:WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings#Gender_gap_topics. Thanks! --Piotrus (talk) 03:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Need help

Hello, Can you help? Hywiktionary reached 100,000 words, and we want for ten days put the festive logo on main page. The new file here-Beko (talk) 18:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) See Requests for logos. There, you will be instructed to submit a ticket at Phabricator. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

(another talk page stalker) As it's a temporary I believe it's better to be just done with few lines to the wiki's Common.css --Base (talk) 23:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I wrote in Requests page․ This logo is temporary, and if it will be a long procedure, it doesn't make sense․ I didn't know how do with Common.css․ Whether it's possible? -Beko (talk) 06:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I added docs to Logo#Setting a temporary logo as a sysop. Nemo 17:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, it worked. -Beko (talk) 20:17, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

CX

Ciao, non sono assegnata a quel team, che se la cava egregiamente con il rispondere al feedback imho. Se ci sono problemi particolari che vorresti segnalarmi comunque non esitare a farlo e solleciterò le risposte dalle persone competenti. A presto, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for off-topic. Elitre (WMF), there's such a nice button "Add topic" at the top. Could you please use it for adding new sections, rather than editing the bottommost section and putting new header there. The latter way confuses those people whp watch the page. E.g. before I actually looked here I was sure that you commented on the section above (since that is in edit summary). Thanks ^_^. --Base (talk) 21:37, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

CONTENTLANGUAGE

Hi. Any idea why such an edit helped? The content language shown in page info was correct, but apparently the magic word did not work. While the template, which as I understand just uses subpage name by default, seem to work. Is it some known bug, or perhaps I have mistyped something so it didn't work? --Base (talk) 19:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Backlinks TO Wikipedia?

Wikilinks Corpus: What Will You Do With 40 Million Disambiguated Entity Mentions Across 10 Million-Plus Web Pages? (2013) --Atlasowa (talk) 22:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

What future IdeaLab campaigns would you like to see?

Hi there,

I’m Jethro, and I’m seeking your help in deciding topics for new IdeaLab campaigns that could be run starting next year. These campaigns aim to bring in proposals and solutions from communities that address a need or problem in Wikimedia projects. I'm interested in hearing your preferences and ideas for campaign topics!

Here’s how to participate:

• Learn more about this consultation
• Vote on and submit new campaign topics in the AllOurIdeas Survey
• Discuss campaign topics and ask questions on the IdeaLab talk page

Take care,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 03:33, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

machine translation

I do mean to lump Google and all other machine translation, speaking as a linguist. Translation is far more involved than most people realize, and since we humans still dont really know how human language works, there is no way to program a machine, which still functions fundamentally differently from the human brain. For example, machines cannot take context into account and so will often give the wrong translation of a single word, when there is more than one possibility. In addition, languages often divide abstract concepts differently... the less related the two are, the more likely this is to happen. I dont mean to say that there will never be adequate machine translation, but we are a long way from that.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:42, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedian and internet addiction

Research:Wikipedian_and_Internet_addiction - Come vado? --OppidumNissenae (talk) 14:06, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Uhmmm, studente in matematica! Bene [arruolato?!? Lo statistico che è in te potrà sbizzarrirsi :-).--OppidumNissenae (talk) 18:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Listeriabot

Hello Nemo bis, please be informed that on nlwiki no consensus has yet been achieved about wether or not to allow maintenance of articles by means of bots using Wikidata. In response to this article a discussion has been started in the local Village pump. As of yet it seems that this method is onlu allowed in other namespaces than the main. EvilFreD (talk) 12:28, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the discussion and the link. Nemo 12:30, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Mass message

Nell'atesa che rispondi alla mia domanda su itWiki, ho tradotto alla buona MassMessage/it. Dopo tipo due anni che c'era, era il caso. C'erano decine di lingue e non l'italiano!

Non so ancora se devo passared a itWiki a fare la richiesta, suppongo nella pagina delle richieste agli admin visto che non abbiamo una spcifica, o si può farla da meta ma si è obbligati a includervi anche altri progetti it-N psr giustificarla (personalmente eviterei di lascire lo stesso avviso su tutte le talk utente di tutti i progetti, forse che il sistema distingue la wiki dove si edita di più o dove si è registrati per primi?)=--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:26, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Watch-Wiki - translate extention

Hello Nemo_bis,

thank you very much for the note about the translate extention at the forum on watch-wiki.org! We are currently working on the translation of our landing-pages to build up the different language-wikis. There is a lot to do. We look forward to everybody who wants to help us, or who knows someone who could help.

Best greetings and a happy new year! - Sarah

What's so weird about it?

I just saw this[1], and I fail to see such a big difference between the versions. Definitely nothing, that would seem to be weird to me. What was so weird about it? --Grüße vom Sänger ♫^(Reden) 17:45, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Does en:MOS:PUNCT (or equivalent in other wikis) help? Nemo 17:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I use what's on my keyboard, is it the right one? Should the nitpickers (and/or bots) care about such minor subtleties. Grüße vom Sänger ♫^(Reden) 17:57, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

My take: Good edit, bad edit summary. -Pete F (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Marking changes for translation

• Hi! Could you mark the changes for translation for this page: wgAutopromote? Thanks!
• Hi! Could you mark these pages for translation?

Interwiki Cache Image Limits

• Hi! Could you mark this page for translation?

wgBrowserBlackList — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wassan.anmol (talk)

Tool Erwin85

Ciao Nemo, da ieri sono ricominciati i MySQL errors; segnalati da altro utente anche su phab. --Supernino (talk) 06:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Grazie, anche se ancora non ho avuto modo di provarlo per continui 504 Gateway Time-out tentando di raggiungere l'url. --Supernino (talk) 20:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

PS ora va :) --Supernino (talk) 12:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

È durato poco :| No webservice. --Supernino (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Ciao, di nuovo disattivato? --Supernino (talk) 12:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

di nuovo irraggiungibile :) --Supernino (talk) 11:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

come sempre, grazie :) --Supernino (talk) 11:40, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Scusa se ti stalkero, ma dura sempre meno xD --Supernino (talk) 21:11, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Hola. Quando sei di passaggio dagli 'na botta, sembra offline :) --Supernino (talk) 10:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Ciao. Segnalo di nuovo 502 Bad Gateway. --Supernino (talk) 07:07, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Non saprei, magari vediamo al prossimo outage quanto dura. --Supernino (talk) 08:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Help decide the future of Wikimania

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.

In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 23:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for help

Thanks for the help on the new project concept Reporter's Notebook. I see job one is to search prior and existing proposals to check for dupes, overlaps, synergies, etc. Thanks for the Wikijournals lead.

Is there a way to get a listing of project title and project description extracted from the New sister project proposal template fields to facilitate review of all other projects? Getting the category(s) tagged would also be great. Eg rows of:
project title | project description | category(ies) tags

would be great for skimming. Thanks! Rjlabs (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Probably not. Nemo 08:33, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Answer needed

Hi, your answer is requested on fr:Discussion:2016 dans le domaine public, in order to fix some issues. Thanks. --La femme de menage (talk) 08:51, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Notice of removal of global bot status from one or various accounts of yours

Hello Nemo bis. You are being contacted as owner of one or more accounts flagged with global bot status. This is to inform you that pursuant §1.1.4 of the global bot policy as amended by this RFC one or various of the global bots which you operate are inactive in the terms laid out by the global bot policy. As such, global bot status from those account(s) have been removed. This message is being left on Meta-Wiki and on your homewiki. We thank you for your work as global bot operator. If you have any questions or concerns, you can raise them at the Stewards' Noticeboard on Meta-Wiki. Best regards. —MarcoAurelio 11:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Future IdeaLab Campaigns results

Last December, I invited you to help determine future ideaLab campaigns by submitting and voting on different possible topics. I'm happy to announce the results of your participation, and encourage you to review them and our next steps for implementing those campaigns this year. Thank you to everyone who volunteered time to participate and submit ideas.

With great thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 23:55, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Re: Diritti d'immagine

Con tre ore di discussione, non sarebbe stato male! - Laurentius (talk) 08:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Global bot

This message is being left on your talk page at Meta-Wiki and those of your home wiki(s). Sorry for the duplicates.

Dear global bot operator: Some days ago you received a message in which you were informed that one or various accounts you hold lost a global bot flag because of inactivity. Due to a mistake, messages informing about this were not sent before removal took place as policy mandates. As such, if you think your bot will be active again on global bot duties, you can request the restoration of the global bot flag on the stewards' noticeboard at Meta-Wiki within the next two (2) weeks after this message has been posted. Please note that this removal was purely procedural based on inactivity. If you have any questions, you can reach me on my talk page at Meta-Wiki. Please accept my apologies in advance for this. Best regards. -- MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of MarcoAurelio at 18:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Towards a New Wikimania results

Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page. Thank you so much for your participation. I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, 22:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Fy:

Thank you for your message of 2014. I don't, however, see why not having contributors who upload a lot of content that needs deleting is a problem for a wiki. OTOH, I also don't see how you determined a ratio between correct and incorrect uploads to begin with. Aliter (talk) 15:23, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikimedia-l

Are you back on wikimedia-l? I know you follow discussions or maybe look at archives but it was nice to read your opinions. Just checking if you are still avoiding or you re-joined? Theo10011 (talk) 19:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I agree, I've been missing your voice in those discussions. -Pete F (talk) 00:46, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I think I won't consider subscribing to wikimedia-l again until I read a public apology by Austin to me, Odder and the list subscribers for the facta nefanda. Such an apology, rather than lies and stonewalling, should of course contain reassurances on the future transparency of moderation actions and concrete guarantees on the non-censorship of the list. For now, I don't consider it a productive use of my time to submit myself to the mailing list's dictators nor to give a contribution to the discussion which is evidently not so valued by the list subscribers; other lists are more productive.

In the meanwhile, I try not to read the archives. I consider myself mostly healed, but sometimes I can't resist reading some messages (only 925 in the last 5 months according to my browser history). When the unfortunate happens, I comment on the wiki or (for friends) by private email. Nemo 11:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

New address for messages etc on Welsh language Wiki

Please post your messages to cy:Wicipedia:Negeseuon Saesneg y Caffi rather than the Caffi, which is now reserved for blogs, messages and discussion only through the Welsh language. Many thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 22:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

apps for translation

Do you know to get apps for translate page. --IkhsanNH (talk) 08:48, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know what you mean. By "translate page", do you mean Special:Translate? By "apps", do you mean something which only runs on a phone? Nemo 09:02, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Need help with translations

Hey Nemo bis! I see you've worked at translatewiki.net. Would you be interested in helping translate Pageviews Analysis? We currently have no other languages supported, you could make Italian the first :) There's not a whole lot of text to go through, but any bit helps. Thank you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 05:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Or maybe we're not even registered yet... I really don't know how this works =P For some reason I thought we were. There's phab:T128768 if you are interested — MusikAnimal ^talk 05:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Revisione informatichese

Ciao, mi sono messo a tradurre Affiliate-selected Board seats/2016/Nominations/Kunal Mehta/it che il guaglione mi ispirava ma mi sono perso nel gergo informatico. Puoi revisionare e migliorarlo? Ho imparato molto documentandomi ma non suonerà mai "normale" per chi smanetta secondo me. Inutile che perda tempo a tradurre meglio se si capisce il senso generale e se in quel tempo posso tradurre il grosso di qualche altro profilo.--Alexmar983 (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Mi fa piacere saperlo ma giusto per puntiglio 1) non è "selezionata", io le sto progressivamente traducendo tutte. Ho iniziato solo da questa perché mi ispirava, una volta iniziato ne ho già fatta un'altra (lo svedese) e sto finendo l'iberoamericano. 2) non è una traduzione, ma una revisione. Poi fai pure cosa di ispira :)--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:26, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok. meno male. ma se ti avessi chiesto una domanda specifica su una parola specifica senza dire da dove veniva, ti avrei messo in una situazione poco confortevole? Perchè concettualmente è una cosa diversa, ma all'atto pratico non è quasi la stessa cosa?--Alexmar983 (talk) 02:31, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Zero local media files

List of Wikipedias without local media files

Maybe more small Wikipedias can be converted to have zero local images. One candidate https://ie.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Liste_de_files . Delete the 12 files and done.

List of Wikipedias without local media files

91.9.98.208 02:07, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Interesting list, nice to have its own page. You can help with this by yourself: just transfer appropriate files to Commons and mark with {{delete}} the local copies. Personally I like to help with the future uploads, mostly; your is a valuable, complementary work. Nemo 16:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

In Robin's list (hopefully soon sortable), if there are 0 local files and no license, then "Soft-disabled" could be changed to "Disabled due to lack of MediaWiki:Licenses"? E.g. ia.wikipedia.org could be changed. Do you know, how this could be done? If not, could you research it? 91.9.123.222 21:07, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Why would you do that? MediaWiki:Licenses can be edited any time, the configuration is more stable. Nemo 21:11, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

The iawiki policy on images says that only Commons is to be used. There is no need for soft-disabled. 0/fully is the tightest config for non-closed wikis. Who can change that config? 91.9.123.222 21:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

For wikis where the policy already prohibits local uploads, just request a configuration change to fully disable uploading. Nemo 21:37, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Could you help me, and do it for iawiki? The ia:Wikipedia:Politica pro le uso de imagines is active since 2007 [2]. 91.9.123.222 22:14, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Done, but I can't always be the one who asks disabling local uploads. ;-) Someone else has to make such requests too. You could create a throw-away account for the purpose if you don't want to edit as a registered user. Nemo 22:20, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Great. I understand. For throw-away I would probably need a throw-away email address too, since the last time I tried to do something in phabricator I was asked for an email address. Privacy should be better respected. Anyway, that is another playground :-). Back to zero local, I find http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/display.php?t=wp&s=images_asc pretty helpful as it also has a count-column. Currently there are 39 with zero, including Aydghe with -10. Next DB update should list ~12 more. Thanks for all your work on this, I see your name in many places related to this. 91.9.123.222 23:13, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe a better brand: Zero local media files. http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/display.php?t=wp&s=images_asc now has 52. 91.9.123.222 00:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC) ... with the 20 wikis just filed to Nahid, 72 is close :-) 91.9.123.222 02:45, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Removing zeropedias at Local uploads policy/taking stock [3]. More can be removed if Nahid has processed the 20-wiki-request from last night. 91.9.104.102 10:29, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests for transfer to Commons

All other files in the respective wiki were checked (please confirm each, they can then be made zeropedias):

• Can you transfer https://ti.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png to Commons as Wikipedia-logo-ti.png? Normally there should be Wikipedia-logo-v2-XX.svg, but for ti there is none, so it might be worth to rescue the file. 91.9.123.222 01:21, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
• https://kaa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su%27wret:Operating_system_placement-kaa.svg 91.9.123.222 02:43, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Have you tried using toollabs:commonshelper? I don't fancy processing such requests on my own. Nemo 10:55, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Needs OAuth. Would really like if you could do these, so they can be set to zero. Nahid already helps with deletions, so I don't want to ask him. 91.9.104.102 12:41, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Those that have less than 1000 articles and are not closed might soon be all zero local. I worked through List of Wikipedias/Table#100.2B_articles. After 00:00 the table will display more zeros, thanks to Nahid. 91.9.104.102 17:04, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

I now asked Nahid for these two transfers. 91.9.104.102 22:43, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

• xal:Special:ListFiles 5 files left. Transfer xal:File:Todo3.png ? I marked the wiki.png already for deletion. Maybe also transfer "Wikipedia-xal-logo-byTsebeen.png", if transfer is not allowed it should be deleted as there is no EDP. 91.9.105.151 09:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Upload config

At https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=uploadconfig , gomwiki is the only zerowiki that has upload enabled. 2 admins, 47 active users. Could become problematic easily. 91.9.104.102 13:37, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

You should propose locally that upload be disabled and then we file the request of configuration change if nobody disagrees. Nemo 13:48, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Before that, I would like to understand Upload config (page started). Robin's tool has several values that are not documented in the page. 91.9.104.102 17:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Meaning of zero

I thought zero is an easy concept in the context of natural numbers. Talk:List of Wikipedias/Table#Wrong file count - Special:Statistics differs from Special:ListFiles. Something critical for Phabricator, is it there already or is there another wontfix-text? 91.9.110.98 23:41, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Phabricator

1) dawiki went zero today, but counter has "2", similar to eswiki that has "1". (list) Could this be made a task in Phabricator? 2) Removing files from closed wikis - is this a task for Phabricator? 91.9.112.211 14:33, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

1) yes, but better not make one request for a single wiki so I asked a few at phabricator:T131306; 2) definitely not, this is a content matter for the community: you can propose at Wikimedia Forum and if there is consensus ask stewards at SN. Nemo 20:10, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

1) add nn, they have more files than the counter shows. 2) What community can a closed Wiki have? @SN Nahid left a message [4] that seems to indicate the SMWT people cannot delete files in closed Wikis. Temporary re-opening (via Phabricator?) might be a solution. 91.9.120.12 09:56, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

What is the reason for not adding nn? 91.9.103.209 02:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

1) nn doesn't fall in the criteria I indicated in the bug and it's never wise to change site requests radically after creation. If you also want to correct non-negative file counts with errors higher than 1, make a list and we'll file a request. 2) I confirm my answer above. Nemo 07:27, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

1) negative + manual. nn is manual. Your statement is illogic. 91.9.115.36 12:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

1) As you didn't want to add it to the Phab Task, Dereckson has been asked on MW user talk and he announced to run the script for nn too [5]. 91.9.124.73 11:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

1) You wrote "criteria I indicated in the bug". I did check nn against description. Now I just saw the task name "Reset file count statistics on a few wikis with negative/off-by-one errors". That also falls under the "criteria ...". My claim of illogical was illogical. 91.9.127.25 12:08, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Wiki.png

Can you make a list and count showing which and how many Wikipedias still have a local Wiki.png? 91.9.107.250 17:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

I like local Wiki.png. Nemo 13:54, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Any local file may have a name of a file in Commons. Any name collision can result in false inclusions or other kind of references if done via Wikidata. Therefore any local file is preventing easy use of Wikidata. Apart from dynamic infoboxes there are also automated lists, e.g. in iawiki ia:Special:Contributiones/ListeriaBot, would probably not be save with local files. 91.9.102.160 09:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Status and progress tracking for Wikipedias

• 1) Median of file count is now below 100. 2) 110 WPs have zero local media files. 3) Total local files 2 413 057 (plus 7 571 from 2 405 486 on 2016-01-01) 91.9.102.160 09:30, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy

Urdu Wikipedia

Hello. Thank you very much! for highlighting copyvio and unused Urdu Wikipedia files on Urdu Wikipedia. While most of the files asked by you have been nuked, there are some files while are in use / Wikipedia screenshots / historical logos, proposed symbols, etc which I found difficult to delete and hence I listed them in my talk page. These possibly require other treatment (either retaining as it is for fair use or movement to commons, depending the nature of the content, which we will see after some time). If there is anything else, plz discuss it on my talk page there. --Muzammil (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

WP screenshots can go to Commons. 91.9.96.221 00:43, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

WMF:R:LP - anniversary

Today it is the ninth anniversary of wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy. 91.9.100.23 06:57, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'll feast when the resolution will be actually respected. :D Nemo 07:05, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

roa-rup has 467 files, more than 50% unused. Is there a list of Wikipedias showing the unused files? Maybe there are more such cases. Switching to zero makes control of LP easier, just a number to watch. Actually, it is a lot of time wasting. All files could go to files.wikimedia.org and be managed by a WikiBase. Commons can be retained as a brand for Free Content. The current Commons system of storing information about the files is complicated: categories, templates, plain text, info in the files itself. I feast when the following are merged: Commmons (shared files, namespace File), Wikidata (shared data, namespace Item+Property), Source (namespace Source), Meta (shared [global] user pages, namespace User) and all other WMF public file storages. 91.9.100.23 09:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Dreaming off. non-free.wikimedia.org would be a solution for several smaller wikis. Why was that not done? 91.9.100.23 09:54, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm not interested in making fair use easier. Your comment is more suitable for the proposal NonFreeWiki. Nemo 14:59, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

@sentence 1: Interesting. I am personally fine with having all non-free stuff deleted. That would probably mean company pages without logos (e.g. Coca-Cola) and leaving out many Coat of Arms. Person-photos will become free, so I would not care here. @sentence 2: I found that after posting. In the talk page some people proposed to open up Commons and just tag files there, to reduce number of deletions. After deleting, no ordinary user can review the file anymore. BTW: I come from iawiki. They don't even have local data in infoboxes anymore, they only use Wikidata and that means all images in infoboxes have to come from Commons. Ideally one could also stop local categorization-tags and maybe delete all local user pages and user boxes. So people can focus on collaborative content instead. And all dab pages are at "X (disambiguation)", almost all X redirect to that page. No discussion on primary topic and no related page moves :-) Flat/Minimal/Lean/Low overhead Wikipedia. 91.9.100.23 21:55, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

WMF:R:LP - unused files

Should all be deleted per LP, since if they are not used, they have no rational, correct? 91.9.100.23 00:25, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

WMF:R:LP - SRM

FYI : Steward requests/Miscellaneous#WMF licensing policy violation and vandalism in closed Wikipedias. 91.9.112.193 12:15, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Annual Plan draft

Hello, Nemo.

Your cleanup in translation and punctuation have been very appreciated, but please do talk about substantive changes before making them, as per the request at the top of the page. I've explained my removal of your addition on the talk page. Personally, I think percentages may make sense, although I think probably a different percentage makes more sense. But it's important that we sync changes in the document, and discussing them will make sure that we all agree on what those changes should be. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 13:59, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

gender gap

Hi Nemo bis,

As we were lately vividly discussing need for more research on the gender gap I was made aware of this research going on: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Beyond_the_Gender_Gap:_Understanding_Women%27s_Participation_in_Wikipedia

--Nattes à chat (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

About a project

Ciao Nemo, è stato Alexmar983 a consigliarmi di mettermi in contatto con te. Sto cercando di presentare un progetto per un IEG, lo trovi a questo link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere Mi farebbe piacere che tu dessi un'occhiata, per darmi qualche consiglio, e possibilmente, se ne condividi lo spirito, il tuo endorsement. Come vedrai Alexmar983 e Susanna Giaccai mi hanno già appoggiata. Fammi sapere per favore cosa ne pensi. Grazie, --Kenzia (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Pagina da cancellare

Mentre cercavo di documentarmi sulla storia delle creazioni e chiusure di wiki "locali" "italiane", ho trovato anche Proposals for closing projects/Chiudere Wikipedia Italia.

Te ne occupi tu di cancellarlo/segnalare la cancellazione? Te lo riporto anche se vuoi appuntarti la "perla" da qualche parte. Credo se la fossero persa tutti...--Alexmar983 (talk) 09:34, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

mass message borse Wikimania 2016

Ciao. Sto attivandomi per inviare il messaggio delle borse Guidetti ai singoli utenti potenzialmente intressati.

Prima che diventi scemo a ricercare tutti i dettagli (fra l'altro la spiegazione su meta l'avevo tradotto io in italiano mi pare) hai qualche scorciatoia da suggerire? Eri tu che avevi messaggiato lo scorso anno no?--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Dettagli su che cosa? Nemo 11:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

dunque tu sei un mass-messaggiatore giusto? Quindi se ti do un messaggio (che poi c'è già) e una lista di utenze (che preparerò) tu lo puoi mass-messaggiare no? O devo fare qualcos'altro?--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Ho già fatto l'anno scorso, quest'anno preferirei evitare. Nella lista degli utenti vedo Romaine e Marcus_Cyron che potrebbero essere interessati, altrimenti puoi chiedere a un qualsiasi amministratore della Wikipedia in italiano (in cui presumibilmente quasi tutti sono registrati). Nemo 15:15, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

A parte che l'unico che si è degnato di aiutarmi l'ultima volta che mi è servito era Harlock e si è dimesso, il punto è che la lista non è solo su itwikipedia. Ci sono altre piattaforme. Chiedo a un altro mass messager.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Segnalo

Perché in EU policy/FoP Consultation/Action il logo della Commissione che vedo è quello in greco? fammi sapere per quella traduzione--Alexmar983 (talk) 09:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

ma sì credo sia carino anche io. Sai lavoravo alla commissione quando adottarono il logo in via definitiva (o comunque lo diffusero massicciamente a furia di decalcomanie e pannelli), l'idea era dare "identità " visuale ai rami della UE (parlamento, commissione, agenzie, corte di conti) oltre la bandiera con loghi specifici. Il punto è che usare la scritta in greco invece che magari in olandese, che pure non è inglese, allontana l'attenzione dal logo, e da ex dipendete a cui avevano raccomandato molto sul prendere cognizione proprio dl logo in sè, la cosa l'ho notata subito.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:20, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

First Wikipedia having wikidata-infobox in each article

ia:Wikipedia:Lista de classes de articulos - 100% reached. Some minor fixes and maybe a page count reset [6] are required. 91.9.111.252 11:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Flagged revisions deployment RfC

Just FYI: There is Requests for comment/Flagged revisions deployment, check also the Dereckson's first versio for the reference. --Zache (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Survey on content curation & review Inspire Campaign

Thanks for your participation in IdeaLab during the Inspire Campaign focused on improving content curation & review processes from February to March 2016. I'm interested in hearing your feedback about your participation during campaign, so if you're able, I invite you to complete this brief survey to describe how you contributed to the campaign and how you felt about participating.

Immediate results of the campaign can be found here. Please feel free to review them and let me know if you have any questions about the campaign or the survey. Thanks! I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 02:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Approved myaccount

Can you approved my account on translatewiki.net, I want to translate at here. Thanks nemo bisMurbaut (talk) 13:29, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

AGF

"that contributions on the wikis be punished (or not) based on what they are (useful, not useful etc.), rather than on the supposed intent or the person behind them. Which, by the way, is the entire point of assume good faith"

wow, you know very well, AGF is marketing to sell to the newbies. the WMF exhibits all the adversive kiss-up kick down, of the average admin. they want to be in charge but not responsible.

it's all well and good to create our circles of AGF at editathons and off-wiki, but we should not expect the cynical veterans will ever adopt such a culture. they've had 10 years. the revscore will automate edit "quality", if the human admins let it, Slowking4 (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Merging IdeaLab proposals

Hi - I see that you're merging a number of similar ideas that have been submitted for this month's Inspire Campaign. I respectfully request that instead of merging, you first post on the talk pages of relevant ideas to see if the creator and participants are in fact interested in this merger. Otherwise it can appear that people are endorsing an idea that they have not. Also, since unlike Wikipedia pages each of these ideas has a specific individual listed as creator, it can appear that they have created an idea different than they actually intended. Funcrunch (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Re:What did I say

• I don't know what the page contained, but most of the proposals I see are not about harassment in any way; should they be deleted/moved/closed too? It would help to tell people that this space is not meant to reiterate eternal discussion on perennial proposals. Nemo 15:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

In answer to your question, my proposal was titled "Accept that this is beyond our control to affect in any meaningful way" and then when on to stipulate that this was not something we could fix with a giant idea drive because the fault is with human nature, not the Wiki-X projects operated by the foundation. Apparently, that was not good enough for the inspire campaign, so when the idea was removed from the campaign for being 'not quite what we were looking for' or some other similarly phrased bs like that I took the hint and voluntarily asked for it to be deleted. I had no strong desire to be put in the silver medal group for having told a harsh truth, and if the meta community is going to be so very selective about what gets included in the idea drive by employing segregationist strategies to keep the unwanted ideas out then I want know part of this "inspire" campaign. Its just easier to accept that this is how things will get worse than to fight against the machine. In one sense though I proved my point: while not quite harassment human nature caused my idea to be weeded out for being "unhelpful", so if that foreshadows the way this inspire campaign will end then the only thing the idea(s) implemented from this idea drive are going to inspire is a lot a adversity among the community. TomStar81 (talk) 03:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Nemo. I wanted to drop by to say thanks for drawing attention to ideas with similar goals or implementations during the campaign by creating "See also" sections in the idea pages directly. It's a lot of work trawling through all of these submissions, and I appreciate your help. I'll be spending some time tomorrow pinging some of the idea creators to see if they would consider merging ideas with another and working together. Thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 01:29, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Malaysian Wikipedia

Hey Nemo, you left me msg on Malaysian Wikipedia, right? You just want plain translation or want me to ask local admin to act upon that proposal? Because I previously already tried that onwiki-offwiki and it's not working, also one of the admins actually daringly ignore that warning and directly using unfree picture on his userpages. So I can imagine this will not succeed at any rate until one of the senior ms.wp admin is contacted and be warned about the issue.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 10:11, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Hey pls visit freenode, I have a suggestion.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 10:17, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Translation done, but I don't know if it will be effective.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 10:26, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

List

Ciao. I don't quite remember, but is there anywhere a list of Wiktionary village pumps? Regards, —MarcoAurelio 21:39, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm listening to your suggestion and will try to add a bunch of wiktionaries to the BP which Wikidata don't support yet. —MarcoAurelio 09:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

A tremendous time!

Bonjour,

Sorry for not writing in Italian.

I am glad to announce the official creation of the user group for Wiktionaries! You mentioned your interest for this great adventure and so, here it is!

the Wiktionary Tremendous Group

You're welcome to participate to this brand new collective exploration of the lexicoworld by helping to translate in Italina, find a fancy logo, contact people or mention places where the announce have to be made. Maybe send a message through the mailing-list? There is still a lot to do, only main pages are there. Soon, I will translate some cool stuff we made in French: 2015 summary, skills list, banner and more. I also plan to visit every community so help welcome! Spread the word! Noé (talk) 00:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Grazie mile! Thanks for the annoncement on Wikizionario! I hope that it will bring some people to join the effort! Noé (talk) 08:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

Repeated removal of content without explaining the removal, can be considered to constitute vandalism. [7] [8] [9] [10]. 91.9.103.5 16:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Where exactly is your contribution to the talk page of the redirect? Grüße vom Sänger ♫^(Reden) 21:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Translatewiki bug

Hi Nemo,

Sorry for comtacting you here rather than on Translatewiki in the bug, but Translatewiki won't let me - the reply buttons there only give me an endless loading symbol...

This is the bug:

https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Auto-locks_the_wiki_database_if_the_sysops_are_all_inactive_for_some_time#Errors_when_importign/exporting_a_po_file_51231

And this is the answer I was trying to post:

I just grabbed a fresh copy of the PO file, translated all new strings that contain the word "categorization" and uploaded the result at once. I got the usual success message. However, when I look here:

https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=mediawiki&language=gd&filter=%21translated&action=translate

The strings are not translated. For further testing, how long does it usually take for the changes to show up?

I got a series of "translation changed" emails on 11 August for strings changed by akerbeltz, so something seems to have worked on that date.

Thanks, Nikerabbit used that URL for phabricator:T143889. According to the statistics, the job queue is not empty, so it may take some hours or days until the import is done. I see one edit already got imported: [11]. If in a few days you don't see all your edits, email Nikerabbit with your PO file. Nemo 10:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: New DBA

Thanks for the welcome! :)

I'm crap...

...at wiki archeology. I'm looking for a page I was sure I had bookmarked somewhere, but that I now have lost the bookmark of. Or something. It's a page in French, timeline for the Wikimedia movement. Any idea where it could be? (and it does not have an English equivalent, as far as I remember, and it's not the one on the Chapters Dialogue things). You're my last hope. Merci, grazie e tutti quanti! notafish }<';> 12:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Earlier, it had the Haifa letter on it. notafish }<';> 12:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Errr. Later that is. Don't mind me. notafish }<';> 16:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

I think I dreamed it and what I was looking for is this: Chapters_Dialogue/Context. Oh well. notafish }<';> 10:31, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

IRC office hour for Wikimedia Foundation copyright strategy

Hi there - thank you for your participation in the copyright strategy discussion so far! In addition to contributing on-wiki, you may be interested in an upcoming IRC office hour the Wikimedia Foundation legal team is holding to discuss the copyright strategy. It will be on September 15 at 14:00 UTC. More information is available on Meta-Wiki. Thanks! Joe Sutherland (WMF) 00:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I asked this on the WikiTeam irc channel but my connection dropped. I saw you uploaded a lot of Wikis so I figured maybe you'd know. I was wondering if there's a way to update an xml dump? Not resume one that's incomplete but synchronize a complete dump with the latest data on the live wiki? I'm using the dumpgenerator Thanks, Acer (talk) 10:05, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

By the way, WT dumps Acer (talk) 02:01, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't think they intended to re-enable the API. I suspect it was a side effect of upgrading their MediaWiki infrastructure. That project is dying, the only languages still active are English, Japanese and German and even then a growing percentage of edits are from spam bots. Ideally I don't want to just leave all this material in the dumps, I'd like to incorporate as much as possible into Wikivoyage but it's not an easy task. That was my main interest in doing the back up. I hadn't planned on archiving other wikis but what the heck, I'll do it, at least the ones that were never downloaded. But I'll ask your help with something in return, and this was quite the coincidence, but take a look at these: voy:Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#FYI_-_Links_from_Commons and Commons:Village_pump#In_other_projects. I want Commons categories to link back to Wikivoyage articles. The way it's set up, Wikivoyage {and WP) link to the categories on commons through Wikidata but get no backlinks in return. I was looking on phrabricator for a ticket about this and saw you were involved in a number of similar sister link issues. This is my first time on phab so if you could help keep an eye on it I'd appreciate it, I opened a ticket here PS: You never answered my question above about updating XML dumps, thanks. Acer (talk) 13:33, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I meant that I have a 65 GB xml dump on my HD now. If say next month I wanted to archive WT again, is there a way to only download the new revisions/articles and incorporate them into my existing dump or would I have to download all of it again? Is there such a command for the dumpgenerator? Acer (talk) 13:53, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Personal attacks (?)

Ciao Nemo! Why didn't you done your work, when I asked you about that Kumkumuk is Erdemaslancan and he ruined the whole Zazaki project. It is neither an insult nor an attack, but entirely the truth. Please unlock me immediately, otherwise I'm going to inform against you because of the abuse of your task. You have to block him not me. Best regards! -- Mirzali (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Tool Erwin85

Hola. Come mai s'incanta? --Supernino (talk) 14:34, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Bot edit wars

LOL! La conferma che un un bot può essere davvero cocciuto se non gli si parla nel modo giusto. ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Grazie della risegnalazione. :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:51, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

Barnstar for Nemo

Hey! I just think you deserve a barnstar for your IRC omnipresence and helpfulness. Thank you! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 16:48, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey

Hi,

You’re getting this message because you participated in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey and we want to make sure you don't miss it this year – or at least can make the conscious choice to ignore if it you want to. The 2015 survey decided what the Community Tech team should work on during 2016. It was also the focus of Wikimedia hackathons and work by other developers. You can see the status of wishes from the 2015 wishlist at 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Results.

The 2016 Community Wishlist Survey is now open for wishes. You can create proposals until November 20. You will be able to vote on which wishes you think are best or most important between November 28 and December 12. /Johan (WMF) (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Unrestricted upload in Wikipedias

Nemo, [12]. Maybe upload can be restricted for ksh (0 local files), pfl, rm, wuu, nv, frr, als, vec, bar, zh-yue, an, mt, pa, km, ga, oc, bcl, as, ps, scn, eml, mn, ba, be-tarask, am, be, sw, wa, lb, ky, hi, kn, tt, my, si, jv, br, fy, ka, bs (~25000 local files, 5000+ unused). 92.227.229.171 01:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

The number of admins is not a useful criterion to me. Of course you can try (I appreciate all efforts), but personally I will continue in my way. Nemo 08:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Do you think restricting open upload to admins could help to reduce copyvio? Which would be your next 40 WPs to restrict? 78.55.76.139 14:05, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

What is your way? Which 10 to 50 WPs you would like to restrict next? 77.180.156.154 07:29, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Those that I had listed in yellow or red. Nemo 07:57, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Yellow are 6: sd*,sah*,pms*,th,pa,ro and red are 11: mr*,te,my,ms*,bs,ba,as,als,ml,ur,tt. Of these 5 are restricted: sd is restricted and has no local files, sah,pms,mr are restricted, ms disabled local uploads in 2016.

That leaves 12, Yellow 3: th,pa,ro Red 9: te,my,bs,ba,as,als,ml,ur,tt. When do you plan to have your next round of restricting? Would it be possible to include ksh,pfl which have no local files but are unrestricted? 92.230.143.142 07:44, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

We need to propose locally that they disable local uploads and see how they react. Nemo 07:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

You are maybe better in communicating on local Wikipedias. But if there is something you would like to be done by others, please say. Out of 295 Wikipedias there are 70 that have upload unrestricted. It may influence the way of talking, the 12 mentioned before are GSwiki: pa,my,ba,as,ur,tt Opt-out: th,ro,te,bs,als,ml. And the zero Wikis ksh,pfl are GSwikis and have 2800 and 2000 articles - these two might be the easiest. 85.179.111.62 11:53, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Re completely disabling: solving phab:T143789 could help. You know people that might be interested in helping Marco? 78.55.76.139 14:05, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Most such configuration changes in the past were merged by Reedy (after I made sure there would be no uproar). Nemo 18:49, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Reconsider your post on the talk page of Statement on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity, and Safe Spaces

Hello Nemo,

I'm asking you to reconsider your post on the talk page of Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard/November 2016 - Statement on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity, and Safe Spaces.

While everyone, including you, has the right to an opinion about Wikimedia Foundation, your comment as written seems like a poor way to start a discussion about building a healthy inclusive community.

I would appreciate it if you would remove the comment. And add back something that would move the discussion forward in manner that would aid in building a health community. Right now the wording is overly negative and way too broad to be useful. Sydney Poore/FloNight (talk) 21:10, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Poore/FloNight - Remove? Why? And why do you think naming the XYZ the worst harrasser doesn't move the discussion forward? 78.55.76.139 14:00, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikiteam

Hey Sorry to bother. If i add a delay of 5 seconds will that mean no pages will be missing from wikia dumps when using dumpgenerator.py? thanks nayeefahsan@gmail.com.Answer Here as i don't have an account.

As far as I know, the delay doesn't matter much. I don't know whether they're throttling API requests now. Nemo 18:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

re: OpenStreetMap

Sì, grazie! :-) mi trovo un po' in difficoltà a capire come segnalare o dove discutere, è meno intuitivo (mi sembra) dei progetti WMF, ma vedremo in futuro :-) in particolare la funzione ricerca secondo me ha gravissime carenze (non è possibile che se scrivo "Piazza Cernaia Genova" mi dice che non trova niente, mentre se scrivo "Piazza della Cernaia Genova" sì...). --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 08:10, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Re: AFT i18n

And thank you for pointing those out! I shall reopen them for re investigation accordingly :) SamanthaNguyen (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2017 (UTC) SamanthaNguyen (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

commonsuploads.dblist

Do you know how to browse changes to commonsuploads.dblist? I see

• https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rOMWC5dd18fb0a0912da74b96e2bc09f1ebdf05cfdbb9 +mrwiki
• https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rOMWC3f83fcb30d03129e9ec67fd3fa02eef1b0918e3a -emlwiki

But e.g. where is +ocwiki? 77.179.143.255 13:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

[13] + [14] ? --Nemo 13:36, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, added to Upload configuration. So, in 2016 the net-changes to Wikipedias in this file were: 1) less restrictive 1x: cewiki (removed, allow uploaders), 2) more restrictive 1x: bat-smgwiki (restrict to admins), 3) new/initialize 4x: ady, jam, tcy, olo. 77.180.142.239 06:29, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikiquote universal mission

Hello from ru.wikiquote. I am a sysop there and after numerous structured rules of Wikipedia it’s hard to make some sense of the almost absence of the rules in ru.wq, and a really small and polarized community of active users — 1 sysop, 2-5 experienced users (more or less) with really different points of view on the mission of wq, number of anonymous users and newbies not even bothering to answer, which is making hard to get to the consensus on new rules. There is a number of problems there, most of which, I guess, you have already overcome or, at least, acknowledge and have some ideas on solving. If there is a better place to ask (for what I’ve seen, most of meta topics have almost no activity, but I may be wrong on this point) — I won’t be offended if you send me there. :)

The main problem is, having read different topics on meta, en.wq, little of it.wq and mailing list concerning development of Wikiquote chapters, I can hardly see anything similar to wikinews’ mission or wikipedia’s five pillars (except for it.wq, which I personally like, but it’s local, not the centralized decision). What is the purpose of WQ? It seems, that every language chapter is trying to figure it out on their own. Is it really so, or are there any universal rules, which must be followed (except for copyrighted material, which is obvious)? Most of other questions are based on this one, because introducing some point of view to a community, the usual answer is «it’s only one point of view and it is wrong». All the following are based both on ru.wq experience and controversies in other chapters.

• AFAIK, there are controversial opinions on original research:
  • should we use only already cited quotations (If it ain’t cited, it ain’t a quote) or is it ok to choose the excerpts ourselves?
  • is it ok to provide research for the origins of quote if there are no secondary sources (either reliable or none at all)?
  • is it ok to comment on translation, when there is a better way to express it? Translations are usually narrowed due to the necessity of one point of view or artistic value, but we here can provide many, showing more than one possible interpretation.
• What are the universal principles for inclusion of the quote?
  • Are any authors/works fine, or just notable due to consensus in local wikipedia? For example, should there be a page of a not notable novel of notable author?
  • Threshold of originality is very debatable by itself, but, some trivial statement by a notable person could be valuable to characterize the person or its views. E.g., statements of psychologist, not being anything new, could illustrate his/her professional approach.
  • Usually it’s hard to explain to over-active users, that it’s not ok to make pages like «Table» and include every mention of the table in the poetry and literature (I guess, similar to the french case), or is it really fine?
• Neutrality: is it ok to make pages on some «hot» topics like current conflicts, politics or religion, showing only one point of view, and if it’s not ok, whose burden is it to add the quotes «from the other side»? Or which percent of good/bad quotes is ok?

There is a lot of other questions and nuances, but each of them, one way or another, gets into the «it’s not a rule» or «you’re an idiot» dead end. A basic set of principles would be just perfect…

P.S. Great respect for all the job you’ve already done and still are doing, it’s really impressive. — GreenStork. 12:52, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

• P.S.2: Or, may be, the Structured Wikiquote or anything like that is coming? — GreenStork. 13:16, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't have time to answer all your points now, but have you read Neutral point of view on Wikiquote? Nemo 17:56, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

It's no hurry - if we managed to get some things for more than ten years, it's not a problem to wait for some weeks or months. :) Of course I've read it and I think it would answer some of my points in a way I personally completely agree, but the issue is that it's the essay, and not the universal policy (kind of cornerstone I'm looking for), therefore, debatable. Nevertheless, I should give it a try and see what will happen next, thank you. — GreenStork. 10:39, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Local files in Alemannic Wikipedia

[15] 85.181.116.218 17:58, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for trying. Perhaps it's better to avoid the jokes on Deutschland, but I appreciated the comparison on what the median wiki looks like. :-) --Nemo 17:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Unused files - stemmi in vecwiki

https://vec.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:FileMiaDopar%C3%A0&uselang=en&limit=5000 - can you help to clean this up? I cannot write in Italian. 77.180.21.16 18:38, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

They don't necessarily like Italian over there, and I mostly know a weird variant of Paduan. ;) Nemo 17:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikiteam

Hello. Is it possible to update a dump backup made with dumpgenerator.py? Thanks analyst1996

Yes, see the tutorial on how to run the script and upload files. If the item already exists on archive.org, you'll need to use the manual process and pick a different identifier/item title. Nemo 17:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually i was talking about updating a wikia downloaded using dumpgenerator.py. Similar to how httrack can update an existing wikia. Not uploading it on archive.org. Thank you . Analyst1996

Sorry, I don't understand: do you want to update the Wikia wiki itself, that is edit its online content (for instance by importing something), or do you want to download the current content of a Wikia wiki to an up to date dump? If you just want a newer dump of some Wikia wiki, just tell me the name and I'll do it for you; but it's easy, see the tutorial linked above for instructions and ArchiveTeam tips for all the details. Nemo 09:00, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey. Me again. Here is what i mean. Say i downloaded a dump of a wikia using dumpgenerator.py some months back.now i want to update the existing dump that i downloaded. Is it possible? I did not see a update existing dump function. It is similar to how httrack can update a website previously downloaded. Speaking of httrack is it possible to only download the main namespace with httrack? Thanks analyst1996

No, it's not possible to resume a partial download (yet). Just download the entire wiki from scratch, is that a problem? Httrack has no knowledge of namespaces and it has a completely different purpose, are you sure you know what you're doing? What are you going to do with the local copy? Nemo 14:33, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

i am going to use the local copy for reference purpose when i don't have internet. Which is most of the times. So httrack is no good. What about special:export? Can i simply select the category and download the necessary pages? By the way the category i am talking about has over seven thousand pages. Will that be a problem? Also i am not talking about a partial dump. I am talking about updating a complete dump with the new contents. Thank you very much for the help. Sorry for bothering. Analyst1996

Seven thousand pages is quite little, you should be able to download them in less than a hour. But how do you browse them? XOWA? Wikitaxi? Nemo 18:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia library

Hi Nemo. I noticed your comment on the recent WMF blog post Wikipedia builds a digital library system, and have left a comment myself (waiting for moderation). Can you tell me why the WMF doesn't just buy subscriptions to a full range of journals and buy access to an ebook library - just as universities all over the world do? Why are we begging for free scraps from the publishers' tables for a really second (or fifth) class service? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 00:04, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Posta

—MarcoAurelio 07:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

RE: Talk page deletion

I only deleted the page because it was a redirect to the archive, which made discussion impossible. I don't archive talk pages myself because of the flow/wikitext difference, and don't plan to do so anyway. —Mainframe98 _talk 08:33, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Re:mail:wikiit-l

Confesso che non la trovo molto utile, essendo utilizzata quasi esclusivamente per i bloccati per lamentarsi dei blocchi. --Niccolò "Jaqen" Caranti (WMF) (talk) 20:44, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Ho scritto, speriamo bene! ;) --Niccolò "Jaqen" Caranti (WMF) (talk) 21:24, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikisocial

Il tuo blocco (parliamone, come l'AIDS, lo stigma sociale è un problema!) e futuro trasferimento fra le renne mi fa rispolverare due proposte per eventi "sociali" che ho abbozzato in questi mesi

• il primo è di organizzare quando un wikipediano si trasferisce un wikievento con metriche locale. Il tema centrale sono le foto, cioè un escursione fotografica. I tool indicano cosa manca, il nuovo arrivato fa nuovi amici e scopre il territorio con loro e si lavora con commons che è multilinguistica, iniziando a scoprire meglio il "paese virtuale" cioè la wiki "locale".
• il secondo è di fare un user group sul wikicouchsurfing. Io vorrei invitare wikipediani qua, ma senza coordinamento come lo dico? Stavo studiando wikivoyage ma è molto prematura, però ne viene qualcosa di carino. Insomma uno straniero sul divano, perché non averlo wikipediano?--Alexmar983 (talk) 06:31, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

• non solo quello, il tool che vuoi. il punto è l'incontro, si possono usare tool diversi. Il concetto di wikiwelcome party associato a un'attività che aiuta a scoprire il posto dove vivi in modo efficiente per wiki e per le relazioni comunitarie.
• si esistono ma sarebbe più wiki pensare come averlo su una piattaforma dedicata, in qualche modo. Altrimenti è frammentario o uno "sponsor" a una compagnia, insomma non mi fido. vorrei qualcosa di più abbinato sul lungo periodo alle nostre piattaforme, al di là dei soliti soloni che non vedono l'ora di farti un panegirico su cosa wiki non è.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:39, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Si e appunto non sono state fatte come la propongo io con le wikimetriche utenze e tool sempre più efficienti. Mi sembra che funzioni, ho chiesto a altri nel mondo in posti diversi dalla poco friendly China se vogliono provarci, ma mi dico tutti no. Io non credo che comprendano quando le wikimetriche locali funzioni abbastanza bene per metter su incontri gradevoli. Ti fidi di me? Mi sono perso se là hai agganci parlanti locale o no per fare una pagina di incontro in finlandese ma la mettiamo su in inglese. Secondo me ai nordici piacciono queste cose, ne voleva fare una a Goteborg se ci passo e le reazioni erano buone. Poi se le voci razziste dalla Svezia sono vere basta che offri birra italiana all'incontro. Ti aiuto io, è un ottimo precedente da portare in giro, il "wiki welcome party".

Sulla seconda, se non ha scopro di lucro concordo. Basta sia accessibile da ogni paese (cioè se va bene, fondamentalmente, dalla Cina...). io pensavo comunque persino di fare un usergorup di wikicouchsurfing abbinato a Wikivoyage. Non che lo faccia io ma mi sembra un'idea carina davvero, sempre nell'ottica di creare un network solido.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

L'avrei fatto, ma l'ho scoperto solo da te poco fa. O parlo con te, o vado di là. O finisco la mia presentazione sugli ossidi di grafite.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:33, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Re:Pagine di discussione in Wikipedia

Ciao Nemo, tendenzialmente ritengo che per un utente sia più semplice partecipare a una discussione nella propria home wiki, per questo è stata aperta, oltre che su Wikipedia, anche su altri tre progetti in lingua italiana. Non mi pare invece che ci siano utenti di lingua italiana che hanno Meta come home wiki, ma è possibile partecipare alla discussione (in inglese), anche qui. --Niccolò "Jaqen" Caranti (WMF) (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Potlatch 2 on translatewiki

Hi - OpenStreetMap's Potlatch 2 is already in British English. There is no need to provide a British English translation on translatewiki. Apologies for leaving you a message here, translatewiki won't let me edit. -- Richard Fairhurst

I've approved your account request now. Ok, will look into updating the configuration. Nemo 10:01, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Re

Ciao Nemo, ho letto ora il tuo msg. Dimmi tutto, se è ancora utile --Caulfield (talk) 10:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

A quali voci ti riferisci in particolare? --Caulfield (talk) 07:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

L'assenza di fonti non giustificherebbe la cancellazione di una voce, per la rilevanza andrebbe discusso nello specifico, e una cancellazione multipla non credo sia la soluzione perseguibile. Quando hai tempo prova a indicarmene una ad esempio. Ciao --Caulfield (talk) 15:13, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

‎Global interface editor

Done. Granted for 1 year. Matiia (talk) 03:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I'll start doing the first chunk of edits when I'm back from the hackathon. --Nemo 06:36, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi

How do you like ru:wikt:Служебная:Фильтр_злоупотреблений/34? It seems to be only about page creation, but I do not like it still. (It is what I've mentioned during wmhack). --Base (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikimedia Forum

The Wikimedia Forum has seen so many reverts. Is semi-protection necessary? --George Ho (talk) 04:54, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

SQL query

Hi Nemo,

Would you please be so kind to run an SQL query for me? I'd like to know how many accounts we've locked with reason Spam-only account: spambot since the start of this year. If we could get a monthly tally it'd be good. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 10:28, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. This is really helpful. Hopefully some numbers will help demonstrate that this continued spambot spree is burning us all and needs to be addressed. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio 10:49, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

French-language CentralNotice

Hi, I have (more exactly we have, as the timeline was made by several members or former members of Wikimédia France) already seen all that. The problem apointed is the decision of WMFr's direction team, not the technical actions. Regards, Mathis B (talk) 17:46, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Strange translation units

Hi. I've encountered an interesting page Fundraising 2012/Translation/Donor information pages it has some strange translation units. Is it the way the extension was doing it back in 2012? --Base (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Instructions at WMF wiki need updating

As a (relatively) recent editor of wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation, I'm wondering if you could edit that page again to fix the instructions about logo creation as discussed at Foundation wiki feedback#Regarding wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation#Preparing files for upload and Template talk:New wiki request#Another problem: Project logo. In particular, it appears that the recommended logo size should be "either 135×135 or 150×150 pixels". - dcljr (talk) 06:02, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

wiki di luglio 2003

Mi chiedi "Ma davvero hai un dump del 2003 (e PHP 4.3)?":

• Si, ho una copia di it.wiki di luglio 2003.
• No, non ho php 4.3

possibile?

• si, perché fino a novembre 2003 wikipedia si basava su un software diverso (it:UseModWiki), in Perl, che non richiede sql. E Perl è eterno :-)
• Il "dump" ce l'ho perché a suo tempo le connessioni internet erano molto lente (e per fortuna che le pagine erano "leggere"!) e costose (si pagavano i minuti) e dunque mi conveniva lavorare off-line. Benché rravamo pochi a collaborare ma per niente conflittuali, la probabilità ti interferene era accettabile anche se maggiore di adesso visto il ridottissimo numero di articoli di allora (a novembre 2003 erano meno di 2 mila :-)

Ciao, Tomi (talk) 09:13, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your comments on my talk page. I can see your point and will make the corrections you have suggested. I am glad to have your feedback and appreciate the time you put in to evaluating the grant proposal. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2017 (UTC)