Talk:List of Wikipedias/Archive 9

englisc/ænglisc

Hey, I notice the local name for Old English is here given as "Englisc". This is not incorrect, however, elsewhere for intwer-wiki links, we have used "ænglisc" (which is also not incorrect), in order to more clearly differentiate it from modern "english". How should that be achieved for this link, also? Gottistgut (talk) 09:30, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

how to be my languge test wiki of the Wikimedia Incubator be orginal wikipedia.i cmplate translattion

--Hosseinblue (talk) 09:10, 8 December 2015 (UTC) wp/lki

Red links

Hi. Azb, lrc and gom languages links are red. Why?--ԱշոտՏՆՂ (talk) 10:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Discussed at en:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Azb, lrc and gom languages links are red and phab:T120937. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Now fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2016

{{edit semi-protected}}

117.206.72.159 11:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done - proposed change not disclosed. — Yerpo ^Eh? 12:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Japanese Wiki Reached 1 million articles

Even if it took so long, finally Japanese wikipedia reached 1 millionth article. The count today is 1,000,106 so it probably reached 1 millionth article on the Jan 19th. Source (here) おめでとうございます。 Napoleon.tan (talk) 00:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations to the Japanese Wikimedians :) You can add the achievement to Wikipedia milestones so it doesn't get forgotten. — Yerpo ^Eh? 07:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Montenegrin language

Can anybody create Wikipedia in Montenegrin language so it will call it the Montenegrin Wikipedia?

It is been proposed 4 times and denied each time. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 4. You can always try again. --MarsRover 10:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Users

Is that visitors per week or per month?

Is all statistics for last month?

Stein S., Oslo

"Users" means all user accounts created on a wiki since the beginning, the same number as on the local Special:Statistics page. — Yerpo ^Eh? 13:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Growth

Is there somewhere where one can see the growth in articles with a "List of wikipedias" for previous years. So one can see how things has developed, say, each 5 years?

Best of all had been a list for each of the previous years? Has you spared any such historical interesting material?

Stein S., Oslo

It is possible to get values on selected dates simply by going through the history of the data table (here). You can also get historical data for each wiki from the Wikimedia Statistics page. — Yerpo ^Eh? 13:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Correction of name of Konkani Wikipedia (gom)

The local name of the Konkani Wikipedia needs to be corrected. As per [1], the name must be "कोंकणी / Konknni", while "गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni" may be used if needed to disambiguate with Maharashtrian Konkani (knn). The present "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni" is incorrect. The Discoverer (talk) 10:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you for link. I'm not familiar to Indo-Aryan languages and prefer to wait for the outcome of discussion on Phabricator. --Emaus (talk) 20:37, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello Emaus (talk · contribs), please could you let me know, where the template that's used to generate this list gets the local names from? Is it from Names.php? Because it isn't matching with the names in that file. The Discoverer (talk) 12:28, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Currently it is a local file of bot. --Emaus (talk) 22:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello Emaus (talk · contribs), thanks for your reply, because I was wondering from where the present term "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni" came from.

You may have noticed that the discussion on Phabricator has been stalled for a long time, with no resolution in sight.

A short summary of the discussion: In the local discussion, the gomwiki community said that they call their language as "कोंकणी / Konknni" (without the translation of 'Goan'), and that the present "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni" is meaningless. However on Phabricator and in Code Review, some non-gomwiki users disagreed with this name, saying that "गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni", which is the translation of "Goan Konkani" should be used, in order to differentiate from an entity called as 'Maharashtrian Konkani' (knn), of which nothing exists on any Wikimedia site. And that's where things stand.

In the meantime, the page 'List of Wikipedias' is (and some other pages on Meta are) using the name "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni", which has no meaning in any language. Therefore I leave it to you to decide which of the two forms to use: "कोंकणी / Konknni" or "गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni", but I strongly urge you to remove the name "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni".

The Discoverer (talk) 06:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, The Discoverer (talk · contribs). Sorry for delay. Yes, I saw the discussion on Phabricator. But, unfortunately, I'm not an expert on the question and I cann't properly examine the reasons on name choosing. In my opinion in such situation the best decision should be an invitation of any Language comitee member (for example, Amire80 (talk · contribs)) who will define what local name should be on List of Wikipedias table. --Emaus (talk) 00:48, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Emaus (talk · contribs), having a language committee member decide will be fine. The main thing that's irking me about the status quo is that we are stuck with an incorrrect name at present. The Discoverer (talk) 04:17, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Emaus (talk · contribs), we are still stuck with the incorrect name "गोवा कोंकणी / Gova Konknni". The Discoverer (talk) 05:50, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

29 February bug?

I wonder why there is no update for today, 29 February 2016.--Jason6698 (talk) 15:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

• No, just funny milestone. --Emaus (talk) 20:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Adyghe

The names appear to be the wrong way round for Adyghe, the English name is in the local name column and the local name is in the English name column. There are apparently -10 images too, somehow. Could that be a bug from importing the wiki from the Incubator? - Nikki (talk) 08:56, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Sortable table

Because I sometimes need to figure things out differently, I made User:Elitre (WMF)/List of Wikipedias/2 - not sure if others may find it useful. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I like it! Thank you. A. Mahoney (talk) 20:17, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Elitre (WMF), A. Mahoney: A version in main space List of Wikipedias/Table/sortable, having column name Images fixed to Files. 91.9.110.98 08:57, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Redlink Counts

Hello,

I'm wondering if it's possible to generate a "total red-links in a Wikipedia" number. Even if it's generated on a less frequent basis (e.g., List of Wikipedias by sample of articles), it'll be *a* useful indicator of to-do on each Wikipedia.

Thanks,

अभय नातू (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

You can use the tool Special:WantedPages on a wiki to see the non-existing pages with most incoming links. Simply counting red links across all wikis would not really help if the goal is to find topics to write about. — Yerpo ^Eh? 09:29, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

List of articles every Wikipedia should have, List_of_Wikipedias_by_sample_of_articles/Absent_Articles, https://tools.wmflabs.org/not-in-the-other-language/ (and more) may be also useful. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:18, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I am aware of the pages mentioned above. Doesn't look like a way to get total redlink count exists.

The goal is not to find topics to write about, rather to see if a given Wikipedia is trending towards future, potent growth or if it's working its way into a more "complete" source of knowledge. The number (rather the trend) could also point to maturity of a given Wikipedia, community or several other variables/factors.

As for usability of such a number, it's a point of debate (elsewhere) :-)

Thank you for your replies nonetheless.

अभय नातू (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

The thing is, this number depends on several factors other than "completeness" - first of all, small Wikipedias will necessarily have small number of red links, which will probably grow exponentially with size and only start diminishing in largest Wikipedias. Secondly, some Wikipedias (English, for example) have a policy discouraging linking non-existant pages, so they will be useless for making comparisons. — Yerpo ^Eh? 16:38, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

To reiterate the point I made above, the comparison is *not* between two wikipedias, it would be like comparing apples and oranges (or maybe comparing apples and luminosity of stars in Andromeda! :-] ) I was looking for a trend within the *same* Wikipedia/wikiproject over time. Granted that a short time horizon (days/weeks) may not be useful but a longer time-horizon will certainly point to useful information.

I am not *insisting/demanding* or even requesting there be a total-redlinks column. I was wondering if there's one and see if I can draw initial inferences based on available data. If the data doesn't exist and/or is too difficult to create, no worries, I can look to other derivative data categories for that.

Thanks again!

अभय नातू (talk) 18:25, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

p.s. I completely agree that this number, standing alone, is not the sole indicator of "completeness" of a Wikipedia.

I don't know if Meta has something like this, but several wikis have a place where you can ask database reports (en.wp has en:Wikipedia_talk:Database_reports for example). Or if you know SQL maybe you could use Quarry yourself. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:19, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Choice of language on main Wikipedia page

After looking at the list of the languages with 1 000 000+ articles, I wonder why languages which are smaller are on the main page? Is there a rationale? Thanks--WayneBu (talk) 12:45, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I think the selection for www.wikipedia.org is made from how much each Wikipedia is accessed. Boivie (talk) 09:16, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

File count

Talk:List_of_Wikipedias/Table#Wrong_file_count 91.9.110.98 23:32, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

No update since June 8

There isn't any update for a few days already. --Jason6698 (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Sure there is, the last one at midnight tonight. Try clearing your cache. — Yerpo ^Eh? 09:11, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Searching in multiple language wikipedias

Hi, what would be the best approach if I frequently search something in say 4 wikipedias? Richiez (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

One option is using Google with site:wikipedia.org in the search. This will search all Wikipedias and all pages indexed by Google. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:16, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

That works, I can also use eg(site:en.wikipedia.org OR site:de.wikipedia.org OR site:it.wikipedia.org) to get more specific results. I am surprised wiki(media|pedia) doesn't have its own method to do it, or is it just too well hidden? Richiez (talk) 12:27, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

language name correction

Name of the language with serial number 143, language code 'bh' is incorrectly written Bihari. But there is no such language by this name. Correct name is 'Bhojpuri', please correct it. Thanks PratyushSinha101 (talk) 10:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Tulu

The English and local names for Tulu (tcy) are the wrong way round and (presumably because of that) the links to the articles about the language are broken. - Nikki (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

I've just noticed the link didn't work so changed to the English Tulu. Feel free to change it back if this is wrong. I thought it was odd that it was the only one written in non-Latin script, which is why it wouldn't redirect. The preferred usage on en.wiki from my experience is that the names of languages, geographical places and ethnic groups are written in what they are more widely known as in English, especially when you consider people are more likely to search for or refer to the most popular term. For example the w:Berber language and the w:Berbers, more correctly the w:Amazigh language and w:Amazigh people. Uamaol (talk) 10:47, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

[[::List of Wikipedias|English]]?

Why this link is broken by having double leading colons? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it's fixed, but I still don't know why. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Number of files

Why is number of files for some Wikipedias (e.g. Swedish, Spanish, Norwegian, Czech, Danish, Slovak, Latin) zero, one, four or very small?

Maybe system of counting is different or namespace/translation is wrong; or, they really somehow disabled uploading... --Obsuser (talk) 22:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

In Latin, we have disabled uploading; we only use files from Commons. A. Mahoney (talk) 16:56, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

See also the explanation under notes. — Yerpo ^Eh? 19:17, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Added zizi.

Added zizi.

--178.135.82.127 05:55, 6 September 2017 (UTC) thumb

Active users

Why the number of active users shown here is much higher than the number of active users that really appears when I click to that number's link? (yes, I counted) Thank you in advance. Tuanminh01 (talk) 05:45, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

• Some days ago a defenition of active user was changed from "1 edit in the last 30 days" to "1 action in the last 30 days". A even new user creation is action, so every new user is active user by new defenition. --Emaus (talk) 22:23, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Understood, thx. Tuanminh01 (talk) 13:08, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Autocreation of Wikipedia projects

I was thinking that all subdomains with 2 to 10 alphanumeric characters (lowercase Latin letters a to z, Euro-Arabic numerals 0 to 9, and hyphen-minus -) should be auto-created for future use. (Blacklist stuff that was deleted long ago, such as "tlh", "ru-sib", and "tokipona".) KATMAKROFAN (talk) 19:55, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is the right place for such a proposal. — Yerpo ^Eh? 13:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Error in the table

There's an error at line 213 of the table (Doteli Wikipedia) where the native name and the English name of the language are inverted, which fucks up the links, but I don't know how to fix it. Basemetal (talk) 15:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

• Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:51, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Same with line 300! --IlSoupylI (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Cebuano?

What's happening with Cebuano, it has over 5 million articles! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.212.179.145 (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello,

This is not a problem. The majority of the articles in the Cebuano Wikipedia have been created by a bot called Lsjbot. The English Wikipedia has an article about this bot: Lsjbot.

Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 07:45, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Klingon Wikia

The Klingon Wikia link is broken, here is a working link. http://klingon.wikia.com/wiki/ghItlh'a' --Sabelöga (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Kabiye Wikipedia

For Kabiye (kbp), the "Language" and "Language (local)" designations are the wrong way round on this list. The name of the language in English is 'Kabiye'. The name of the language in Kabiye is 'Kabɩyɛ'. Please can this be changed? Gnangbade (talk) 08:55, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Updates for 14 January 2018?

Why are there no updates for 00:00 & 12:00 14 January 2018 (UTC)? Is it out of order?--Kowlooner (talk) 12:50, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

"Total"

? Total what? Bits/bytes/characters/words/edits? Apparently not articles, since there is a separate, smaller column for this category. I would correct this, but I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD BE. 46.34.204.212 06:55, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Under the section "Notes" you will find the definition of "Total". -- Tegel _(Talk) 07:14, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

@Tegel: So you've just helped that IP user, but it's no help to anyone else: we just have to scroll down to Notes and find out for ourselves. Not even a link! Shame on whoever set the table up that way! --Thnidu (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Tegel: A proper fix would be to link all the headers that are discussed in Notes to that section, or even to the appropriate paragraph in Notes via anchors. --Thnidu (talk) 22:14, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, I popped in here in the beginning of the year when a user had a question. I have just reverted vandalism a couple of times so I have not contributed to the page in any way other than that. All users with a confirmed account can change and improve the page, so if you see anything that can be improved you could do it yourself as well. From the history of the page you can see who made the current structure. Just think of Etiquette if you contact them. -- Tegel _(Talk) 16:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

New column "Views"

Hello, everyone!

I have an idea to add a column with site views to the table. Here you can find it's first draft: List of Wikipedias/Table v2.

Please comment this. In case of approval here, I'm going to start an RFC with some additional options of the table modification. --Emaus (talk) 01:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

What's the point of simple English wikipedia?

I get the gist of it, but it seems practically the same as the actual English. Not that "simple". Alex of Canada (talk) 00:48, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Look at several of the other longer, better quality articles there. You'd be surprised as to how simple the page is in comparison to its en.wiki counterpart. Unfortunately, we don't have too many active editors over there to keep all pages simple. hiàn 04:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

This is not the place to discuss the use of any particular Wikipedias. Or Wikipedia in general, for that matter. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 12:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

I will edit on it, then. Alex of Canada (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Uppercase missing at https://www.wikipedia.org/

In the language list at https://www.wikipedia.org/ nearly all languages but the Armenian in the 100.000+ section are given with uppercase first letter. Armenian is mentioned as հայերեն, rather than Հայերեն: How can this be fixed ? Darwwin (talk) 10:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll put in a phabricator on that. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

phabricator:T193060. I suspect they'll handle this pretty promptly. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Darwwin: Phabricator reports that the correction will be deployed on Monday, 7 May. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

thanks! Darwwin (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Darwwin: Have a look now ... StevenJ81 (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@StevenJ81:, perfect! thanks for very quick processing!

Un MAmaguebo trafficante

104.37.210.251 16:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you want to have done here. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Albanian Wiki

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T196594 invalid

It seems to have disappeared from the main list. I had to pick it up from the External Link at the top of the page (sq:Faqja kryesore).

Others may also have gone AWOL. The intro talks of 301/291 Wikis, but there are only 278 in the numbered list.

(I don't need a reply, it's just something which may need looking into.) Narky Blert (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I have informed the bot owner to the bot that do the update that there is languages missing. -- Tegel _(Talk) 18:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Do we need a phabricator task to address the missing wikis on the table? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Done, I've issued the phabricator task. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

The task has been rejected as "invalid", but when will you add the missing wikis on the list? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Ukrainian Wikipedia not listed

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T196594 invalid

I notice that Ukrainian Wikipedia is not listed on the table. Is that language version closed? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Also Bosnian Wikipedia is missing. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC) Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Do we need a phabricator task to address the missing wikis on the table? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Done, I've issued the phabricator task. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

The task has been rejected as "invalid", but when will you add the missing wikis on the list? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

• Hello! Bot gets errors on local data obtaining, probably due to technical works. Currently I stopped the bot and reverted page to last full version.

Turkmenian Wikipedia (170.) is not written in her own alphabet at Language local column

The Turkmen Wikipedia is not written in her own alphabet. It is not Arabic or Cyrillic style. Why? Can somebody fix it?--Porbóllett (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

• Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.--Porbóllett (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Santali language link

Hello! The Santali language link goes to w:ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲᱤ and not w:Santali language. Thank you! Ed ^{[talk] [en]} 22:46, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

• Hello! Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 20:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hausa Wikipedia (#223) native name written only with Arabic script

Hausa Wikipedia (#223) native name is written only with Arabic script, despite the language is also written with the Latin script. Please fix it. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

• Added "Hausa" into local name. --Emaus (talk) 20:58, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

3rd bullet under "Notes"

The page states:

    ""Images" is the number of locally uploaded files."

In the chart, "Images" is replaced by the header "Files". Should it be changed? The Graceful Hobo (talk) 13:14, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Done --Antonio1952 (talk) 20:05, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Vietnamese entry in table

No depth is given, just "__". Is there a reason for this? I suppose I could calculate the depth by hand. Bruce leverett (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

• Hello! This is caused by artificially grown total page number which distorts the real situation. --Emaus (talk) 21:51, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

• • Do many non-artical pages still exist now? Why they cannot be caculated into the total page number as valid. Thanks. MirrorWuu (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• It needed to be 567. Depth in Vietnamese. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:387:0:982::43 (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

An oblivion about Moldovan Wikipedia deletion information

In section "Deprecated, moved and other", subsection "Moved and deleted" you forgot to state the deletion of Moldovan (Cyrillic) Wikipedia, which has been at first closed, then moved to Wikia and finally deleted and redirected to Romanian Wikipedia. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Rationale for "Never been an official Wikipedia"

The "Never been an official Wikipedia" section now lists 3 wikis that were rejected as Wikimedia projects. Problem is, there are already hundreds of potential Wikipedias that have been rejected, and surely dozens more on the way. Any of them could be set up at Wikia or elsewhere and possibly be added to this list. We obviously don't want to list all of them here. So, what exactly are the criteria for inclusion in the "Never been an official Wikipedia" section on this page? Should the section even be here at all? - dcljr (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

That section probably made sense in the early years of Wikimedia for projects that might conceivably become legitimate Wikipedia editions had the process gone through. I agree that those years are now gone. — Yerpo ^Eh? 13:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, fair warning: I am prepared to remove that section entirely. Unless someone gives me a good reason not to, I will remove it in a few days. - dcljr (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I done did it. - dcljr (talk) 08:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Shan Wikipedia

For Shan (shn), the "Language" and "Language (local)" designations are the wrong way round on this list. The name of the language in English is 'Shan'. The name of the language in Shan is 'ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး'. Please can this be changed? Jacek Janowski nr2 (talk) 19:52 9 February 2019 (UTC)

See here. --Antonio1952 (talk) 22:32, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

German wrong link

Please change [[Deutsche]] to [[Deutsche Sprache|Deutsche]] on the first table. --151.49.64.189 20:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Done. Nihlus 19:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Nihlus: I fear the bot updating this page will override your edit during its next run, at least that is what seems to have happened with previous manual edits to that page. It might be advisable to contact the bot operator. --Vogone (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured it might. If it does, I will contact the botop. Nihlus 20:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Nihlus: the bot has reverted the wrong link... --151.49.64.189 06:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Nihlus: you missed my last message? Link to German language is still wrong... --151.49.64.189 20:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

He's been notified. Nihlus 20:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The content you all are discussing here is transcluded from List of Wikipedias/Table, which is generated by a bot twice per day. As pointed out at the top of Talk:List of Wikipedias/Table, you need to contact User:Emaus (who just got pinged here) to make permanent changes to the table. - dcljr (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Error (Northern Sami)

The table says, "Sámegiella", but it links to "Davvisámegiella".
Please change the text in the table to "Davvisámegiella".

The content page can not be edited by my user account. Regards! Sju hav (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Bug in table

Native and English names of Western Armenian are swapped on the table. Please fix that bug! --Agusbou2015 (talk) 18:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Number of Words

Hi Emaus. Would it be possible to integrate also the number of words in all content pages in this table, which are evaluated in 'Special:Statistics' for some time now? Best regards, --Holder (talk) 12:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

(Not an answer to your question, but might be helpful…) The information currently shown in the "All Wikipedias" table are all based on the raw stats accessible through the API. But it looks like the "Words in all content pages" number shown on Special:Statistics is provided by the CirrusSearch extension (see Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Miscellaneous/Word count on statistics and the links from there). I don't know how a script would access that number. Do you? Emaus, can you figure it out? - dcljr (talk) 01:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, bot gets data via API but can use any other useful data source. Currently I dony't know such source for word number. --Emaus (talk) 19:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Error in the table at Serial Number 162

The language "Bhojpuri" ("भोजपुरी" in the Devanagari script)(Serial Number 162 in the table) has been misidentified as the group of over 11 languages, "Bihari" - which it belongs to. I don't know how to fix it, so somebody else please do. PolyRe167895432 (talk) 00:49, 07 November 2019 (GMT + 5:30 hrs)

This seems to be because "bh" is the ISO language code for the Bihari language group (the Wikipedia subdomain in question is 'bh.wikipedia.org'), while Bhojpuri is "bho". Emaus would be the one to change this in the table (and he has just been "pinged" here). Note that the wiki was apparently created before there were clear rules about naming Wikimedia wikis (subdomains). A "bh" Wikipedia certainly would not be created today. There is already a Phabricator task (created in 2014) to change the subdomain from "bh" to "bho". Unfortunately, it is currently prohibitively difficult to perform such "renames" (I'm not sure why), so I wouldn't expect the subdomain itself to get "fixed" anytime soon. - dcljr (talk) 04:45, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Changed english name to bhojpuri. --Emaus (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Should this be mentioned in the Cebuano Language article?

A minority language in the southern Philippines having the second largest Wikipedia next to English, more than not only Filipino but Spanish, the Chinese dialects, Japanese, German, Russian, with significantly less users is both noteworthy and amazing. Does anybody believe it should be mentioned in w:Cebuano language? J390 (talk) 02:14, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

The proper place to ask this would seem to be en:Talk:Cebuano language. (Note that almost all articles on the Cebuano Wikipedia were created — and most only edited since — by a single bot, as you can verify by hitting "Random page" several times on that wiki and then "View history" on each page you come to. So the size accomplishment is not at all amazing. Whether it's noteworthy can be discussed elsewhere.) - dcljr (talk) 02:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Correction to Old English

So the local language link for Old English redirects to "Nīwenglisc sprǣc" (Modern English). The correct link should be "Ænglisc spræc". Thanks! Clarinetguy097 (talk) 06:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

That redirect lives on the Old English Wikipedia. Please get consensus there to change the redirect. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Depth calculation

Hello! Is depth calculated automatically? I have the case for Basque wikipedia where (7569979/348777)*((705704-348777)/348777)^2=22 and now it appears as 11. I don't know the cause to be exactly the double. Thanks -Theklan (talk) 23:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

• Hello! The first divisor should be a total page number and not the article number. So the calculation is (7569979/705704)*((705704-348777)/348777)^2=11. --Emaus (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Errore of the table

The friulan wikipedia it has more articles than the Maltese wikipedia, but it is marked below. Thank you Nuova haiti mapper (talk) 07:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

No it hasn't. :fur has 3350 articles and :mt has 3446. The table is correct. — Yerpo ^Eh? 10:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

"Invented" codes

I believe some of these are from an RFC, I forget the number. They are as "invented" as ISO codes. Rich Farmbrough 10:05 1 April 2020 (GMT).

Welsh language

Hello, On the search box on this page wikipedia.org the list of languages has Cymraeg sorted after Romanian and before Simple English. Why cannot it be with the languages beginning with "C"?--Johnsoniensis (talk) 06:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Selection of external links

@Dcljr: Hi. Can you explain what these links mean and why they are better than interwiki? Iniquity (talk) 23:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know. I didn't put them there. But since they do not duplicate the interwiki links, they should not be removed with that justification. Perhaps others can comment here as to whether they are needed or not. - dcljr (talk) 00:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Meno25 and Antonio1952? Anyone else? - dcljr (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

> But since they do not duplicate the interwiki links, they should not be removed with that justification.
I think they duplicate the interwiki links. They was added by Kaganer in 2013 without any comment. Kaganer, can you tell why they are needed, please? Iniquity (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

No especially purpose. This was just expanding content of "Template:Other languages/List of Wikipedias" (currently deleted as unused and outdated). --Kaganer (talk) 17:02, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks :) Iniquity (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

For the record, here are the links provided by the "External links" table we are discussing, and the interlanguage links provided by Wikidata for the same languages (not counting 29 additional languages at Wikidata but not in the table):

Lang	Link in table	Link provided by Wikidata
als	als:Wikipedia:Sprachen	—
az	az:Vikipediya:Bütün Vikipediyaların siyahısı	—
cs	cs:Wikipedie:Seznam jazyků Wikipedie	—
cu	cu:Википє́дїꙗ:Ката́логъ	—
de	de:Wikipedia:Sprachen	de:Liste der Wikipedias nach Sprachen
fi	fi:Wikipedia:Luettelo Wikipedian kielistä	—
ga	ga:Vicipéid:Vicipéid i dteangacha eile	—
hu	hu:Wikipédia:Wikipédiák listája	—
ja	ja:Wikipedia:ウィキペディアの一覧	—
ka	ka:ვიკიპედია:ვიკიპედიების სია	—
kk	kk:Уикипедия:Уикипедиялар тізімі	—
ko	위키백과의 목록 (local redirect here at Meta)	ko:언어별 위키백과 목록
ky	ky:Уикипедиялар тизмеси	—
li	li:Lies vaan Wikipedia's	li:Lies vaan Wikipedia's (same target)
lv	lv:Vikipēdija:Vikipēdiju uzskaitījums	—
mg	mg:wikt:Mpikambana:Bot-Jagwar/Lisitry ny Wikipedia	—
ms	ms:Wikipedia:Senarai Wikipedia	ms:Senarai Wikipedia
nan	nan:Wikipedia:Kî-thaⁿ ê gí-giân	—
pl	pl:Wikipedia:Lista wersji językowych	—
pt	pt:Wikipedia:Wikipédia em outras línguas	pt:Lista de Wikipédias
ru	ru:Википедия:Список Википедий	ru:Языковые разделы Википедии
sr	sr:Википедија:Остали_језици	—
sq	sq:Wikipedia:Faqja kryesore	—
ta	ta:Wikipedia:பன்மொழி விக்கிப்பீடியாப் பட்டியல்	ta:விக்கிப்பீடியாக்களின் பட்டியல்
th	th:วิกิพีเดีย:วิกิพีเดียภาษาต่าง ๆ	—
uk	uk:Вікіпедія:Список Вікіпедій	uk:Список Вікіпедій
uz	uz:Vikipediya:Vikipediyalar tizmasi	—
vi	vi:Wikipedia:Phiên bản ngôn ngữ	—
yo	yo:Wikipedia:Awon Eede	—
zh	zh:wikipedia:維基百科語言列表	zh:維基百科列表 (redirect to same target)

This doesn't look to me like duplication. - dcljr (talk) 00:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I see, thanks. We have two similar Wikidata items: d:Q21010653 and d:Q859417. And it seems to me now they are confused. And the meta is linked to articles, instead of service pages. Iniquity (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2020

edit

108.31.4.71 14:25, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Declined Blank request. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 14:26, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Total page views

Hi,

It would be great to add the number of page views. According to Wikimedia: "Page views on Wikimedia projects is our most important content consumption metric." so this metric should definitely figure in a list of Wikipedias. Data is available for each Wikipedia on Wikimedia Statistics, I guess it would be easy to automatically generate the figures for all Wikipedias and update the table accordingly.

What do you think?

Best,

Antoine, A455bcd9 (talk) 05:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Emaus: as I've just seen you suggested the same thing two years ago :) A455bcd9 (talk) 05:21, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, @A455bcd9:. Here you can find another version of list of wikis with added average daily views. --Emaus (talk) 13:19, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, @Emaus:, thanks for your swift answer: this list is great! However I don't understand where those numbers are coming from. For instance, for German it says "31,188,229" but if I click on the link provided the last value (July 10th) is 27,442,329. For this day, the value on Wikimedia Statistics is 40,411,904. Which is the same value as the one on toolforge if you select "Agent"="All" instead of "Agent"="User". I guess it doesn't change the ranking though but I'd like to understand where the differences come from. A455bcd9 (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

It's an average during the last year with "Agent"="User". --Emaus (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. As Active Users are defined as "registered users who have made at least one edit in the last thirty days" it's probably better to average over the last thirty days (instead of the last year) as well for Daily Views, isn't it? A455bcd9 (talk) 17:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

There are lot of "Active user" definitions. For example, here active user is a user who made 5 edits per day or month. In my opinion the yearly average is more sustained, especially for small wikis. --Emaus (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes that's right I was only referring to the definition of "Active Users" used on this page. In any case, it would be great to add the definition of "Daily Views" somewhere. Does anything prevent Table2 from replacing Table on List of Wikipedias then? A455bcd9 (talk) 08:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@A455bcd9: In my opinion there should be RFC on the future of this table including many points. For example, on table2 you can see column "Score" that is a new proposition to project comparing. --Emaus (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

I agree, this score seems way better! A455bcd9 (talk) 16:10, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Emaus:, the Score parameter is your idea or has already been discussed with the Community. --Antonio1952 (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Antonio1952:, it's my idea and I would like to discuss it. Here you can find a description of it. --Emaus (talk) 19:55, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank You! --Antonio1952 (talk) 20:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Emaus:, what would be the process to discuss this idea and replace the current table by your idea? A455bcd9 (talk) 12:04, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Help: Problem with Vietnamese Wikipedia (viwiki) [2]

We have a problem with the depth calculation in our project. TuanminhBot created more than 15 million welcome pages (not sure the exact number) for new IP addresses who/which supposed to visit our project. Some IP addresses have never visited our project but still have a welcome page (and even for broadcast addresses, i.e, 1.1.1.255). We discuss and stop this action too late and this makes our project lost the real depth. Is there any solution?

• Automatically technical delete all welcome pages that IP addresses never visit our project
• Then, we can have our depth in real and honest calculation back.

Thank you! Alphama (talk) 12:13, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, let me know when it is finished. --Emaus (talk) 13:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Such welcome pages can shorten the time for the Vietnamese IP to learn about how wikipedia works. Whenever they come to read wikipedia, a message appears, asking them to read the welcoming page. Therefore, these pages are useful to promote wikipedia and have trained the Vietnamese public about wikipedia in general. And it's effective forever because once it's created, it can be read by multiple people who use that dynamic IP.

In a country that has 30 million Internet users like Vietnam, these pages can be a cost effective solution for promotion. It could cost a lot of money and human efforts to promote wikipedia in Vietnam otherwise.

For depth, you can minus the total of page that TuanminhBot created and edited, then depth can be calculated as usual. Regards, Tuanminh01 (talk) 13:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Multiple people will not read the message because they won't know it's there. There are better ways to do this, such as a short MediaWiki:Anonnotice message with some helpful links that can be hidden by the user. — Yerpo ^Eh? 12:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

We already had en:MediaWiki:Sitenotice in our project. Alphama (talk) 20:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Just a few editors look at the Sitenotice, not mention the IPs, who are focusing on the article they see. Tuanminh01 (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion there should be an RFC to discuss such propositions. --Emaus (talk) 16:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no help. Seem that we do not know what to do to gain the depth back. 201.141.8.137 00:50, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Notice on Moroccan Arabic Wikipedia

Hello, Moroccan Arabic has its own Wikipedia now at https://ary.wikipedia.org . Please add this version on the table.-SADIQUI ^(Talk) 13:02, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

User:Emaus would be the one to do this. (He has just been "pinged".) Note that the wiki has not yet had its statistics initialized (counted for the first time). This will happen on August 1st; until then it will show up in the table as having 0 articles. - dcljr (talk) 13:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello! It will be added just when appeared in a local Site Matrix (probably, in some days).--Emaus (talk) 15:37, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

So, for future reference, are new wikis are added automatically when this happens? Or do you still have to make the change manually? - dcljr (talk) 00:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Toki Pona Wikipedia is now a fandom and not longer a wikia

https://tokipona.fandom.com/wiki/lipu_lawa

It could be the same for Klingon, but I haven't checked this...

Jansegers (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

The entire Wikia site became Fandom. - dcljr (talk) 19:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Moldovan Wikia link broken

I think but am not sure the deleted wiki near the bottom of the page is supposed to link to https://wpmo.fandom.com/mo/wiki/Паӂина_принчипалэ but doesn't (the link it uses is broken, as it thinks it's looking for a page on Community Central instead). - Purplewowies (talk) 00:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Auto table creation

Anyone can create tables without a bot, using wikicode. For example top 10 Wikisource sites:

№	Language	Wiki	Good	Total	Edits	Admins	Users	Active users	Files
1	Polish	pl	1,170,181	1,208,870	3,722,624	15	38,768	63	129
2	English	en	1,082,612	4,498,058	14,723,721	21	3,149,510	456	16,207
3	Russian	ru	624,274	1,095,008	5,201,040	5	124,266	97	33,042
4	German	de	581,498	634,943	4,442,220	17	85,232	95	6,923
5	French	fr	575,789	4,370,523	14,781,560	15	150,932	259	3,668
6	Chinese	zh	471,326	1,129,611	2,478,474	8	110,650	162	230
7	Ukrainian	uk	279,902	425,417	840,228	6	18,487	71	135
8	Hebrew	he	246,664	1,652,034	2,894,539	16	41,247	98	548
9	Italian	it	202,446	802,581	3,439,670	9	74,464	79	723
10	Spanish	es	84,465	285,955	1,497,052	9	91,493	50	231

The |count=10 tells how many to display. To display all count={{NUMBEROF|active|wikisource}} (instead of "active" use "closed" for the closed sites; or "languages" to list active+closed). The rest is boilerplate. The table stats are current, updated 4x a day, and any projects added or removed are automatically accounted for. -- GreenC (talk) 03:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Section below table "Deprecated, moved and other"

Hello all, hello @Dcljr:, what exactly does the status "Deprecated" mean? Could we delete this? A proposal for a new named and sorted section please have a look in the sandbox. Feel free to make some changes there. Sorry for my poor English. --W like wiki (talk) 04:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

After forgetting about this for 8 months, I'm thinking of making this change. Any objections to replacing the section List of Wikipedias#Deprecated, moved and other with the contents of Talk:List of Wikipedias/Section below table? - dcljr (talk) 06:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi dcljr, sorry, I also forgot to answer, at the moment little time, maybe next week better,.. or next year :-D --W like wiki (talk) 11:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@W like wiki: The change was made back in September 2021. - dcljr (talk) 00:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Southern Altai error

It looks like the "Language" and "Local Language" columns for Southern Altai (currently about no. 300 on the list) have become reversed: "алтай тил" is listed as the English version of the name and "Southern Altai" as the local version. Grutness (talk) 14:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Emaus: --Antonio1952 (talk) 20:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Why not all subdomains are supported

With interesst I reading articles over nearly dead languages, like Unserdeutsch and other. In result I tested Wikipedia call but nothing… :-( Why does Wikipedia not support these language to help the diversity of all languages? Is these diversity part not important enough for you? 84.168.39.241 11:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia supports any recognized language with an active community. You may propose a Unserdeutsch Wikipedia at the Wikimedia Incubator if you're willing to organize a community who will write it. — Yerpo ^Eh? 12:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Redirects of language and the name of the language itself

I saw this, "nan: – redirects to zh-min-nan," and was wondering what is this for? And about the name of the language (nan) itself, can we propose here for the name change or elsewhere for a discussion. Thank you. iyumu 06:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Geographical region

Can a geographical region be added to each entry in the table? I was asked about it. It would be useful to have a query such as "all the languages of America / Africa / Europe / etc.".

A simple mapping between language codes and geographical regions is available at https://github.com/wikimedia/language-data/blob/master/data/langdb.yaml . The same data is deployed as part of the UniversalLanguageSelector extension, so Wikipedia uses it already. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Pinging User:Emaus. - dcljr (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Add: Page edits since Wikipedia was set up

Good morning. I wanted to ask if it was possible to add to the table also the wiki data concerning the "Page edits since Wikipedia was set up". In my opinion, it would be relevant data for the purposes of good overall statistics. Thank you in advance for your kind reply. --ꜰɪᴇʀᴏᴅᴇʟᴠᴇɴᴇᴛᴏ (Talk)-(Scrìvame in vec.wiki)-(Contributions) 15:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

That's the meaning of the "Edits" column. If you mean the number of edits made since each wiki got its own subdomain (i.e., excluding edits done while in the Incubator), there's no existing mechanism to track that. - dcljr (talk) 00:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Change the name

Hello. Could you change "Kirghiz" to "Kyrgyz" (line 78). In English the version "Kyrgyz" is accepted. The variant "Kirghiz" was first used in Russian (nowadays mainly on the territory of Russia) from which it spread to some languages. But “Kyrgyz” is used in English.16:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@Dcljr Hello. Can you help me.--Bosogo (talk) 18:38, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Emaus, who can make such changes. - dcljr (talk) 00:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Emaus Hello.--Bosogo (talk) 16:43, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Grand Total

Hi there. Can the total count of active users be added in the "Grand Total" table at the end of the page? Marty5550 (talk) 11:50, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2022

toki pona no longer is hosted at fandom, being hosted at wikipesija.org 2A00:23C4:1F80:1E01:3621:54DB:5D5A:6C0E 21:51, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Please be more specific about what exactly you want changed. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:02, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Presumably, they wanted the "Wikipesija" link under "Deleted but hosted elsewhere" to point to 'wikipesija.org' instead of 'community.fandom.com/wiki/w:c:tokipona' — but note that (1) the wiki we are pointing to still does exist, and (2) there is a prominent link there to the new location, so I'm not sure we need to change anything here. - dcljr (talk) 00:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2022

Should wikipedia ten be on here?

https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page 47.72.184.76 08:09, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Not done Hi 47, I'll say "no" - reason why is that while it happens to use the *.wikipedia.org domain name, it wasn't actually an encylopedia, more like the wikimania special coordination domains. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

closed wikis

Good morning. most of the wikis at the bottom of the page are closed. Why don't we have a new section for those? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Georgetherat (talk) 18 March 2022 (UTC)

See List of Wikipedias#Closed and read-only. AFAICT, only the Northern Luri Wikipedia was missing from that list. I have added it. - dcljr (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2022 (UTC)