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Report concerning User:120.188.0.56

120.188.0.56 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: IP address playing with translations Grawiton (talk) 23:39, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Sgd. —Hasley 23:44, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Requesting massmessage right

I am requesting massmessage rights in order to notify people of the upcoming coordinator elections happening in WP:MALTA — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pichemist (talk) 12:59, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

@Pichemist Hello, are you reaching people in enwp only or many wikis? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage Only on the English Wikipedia, I believe. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pichemist (talk) 13:04, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
@Pichemist Then please request at en:WP:PERM. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:07, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage Will do, sorry for wasting your time. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pichemist (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
No worries, can be confusing at times. @Pichemist Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
13:09, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Request renaming or speedily closing a request for comment intended for defamation

Would any disinterested administrator speedily close or rename this RfC? This is an extremely serious personal attack in violation of Meta:Civility.--Jusjih (talk) 19:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Jusjih: Alleging abuse of administrative rights while providing links and making a case is not in and of itself a personal attack. It is also pertinent to note that threatening editors for opening an RfC about you is not appropriate conduct for a Meta-Wiki administrator. Please try to remain calm and objective while processes like these are going on. Best, Vermont (talk) 20:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Vermont's comments are true, though I doubt that it should be at Metawiki, this is a local issue for zhWS and has no global implications, and is between administrators. Having this discussed in English here is just problematic. I have asked for it to be moved back to zhWS, then we should be able to close it out.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:19, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Then please also ask Zhxy 519 to try to remain calm and objective, or he should be blocked here for disruption. Please note how Zhxy 519 retaliated while he would face de-admimship [1] and why the RfC has excessively biased title [2]. See also a new RFC to tighten Requests for comment/Policy.--Jusjih (talk) 19:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
@Jusjih regarding the first diff, Zhxy 519 does make a valid point, and for the second diff also there was no good reason to move the RfC. Given there may be language barriers, please AGF. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 23:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Will not close here as it might not be good for me to close zh related issues, but to be honest, I don't see anything actionable here. I really can't see any clear policy violations on any party that is to that extent that sanctions are applicable till now. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:15, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: I disagree that Zhxy 519 made a valid point while I see systematic violations of Meta:Civility. He keeps retaliating against being proposed for de-adminship on Chinese Wikisource. I would like to request these acts:
  1. Revert User:Zhxy 519's renaming [3] for continuous defamation, back to Requests for comment/Recent problem in zh.wikisource.
  2. Leave no redirect of excessive abusive titles. Salt them.--Jusjih (talk) 18:37, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Jusjih: The RFC that you started indicated that a user's name can have purpose in the title, so I am do not feel that the neutral page name you specify is justified. Your commentary in this whole thread is problematic, and I think that you need to take some time to reflect. You even asked this person to be blocked. I mean, what is that? Be open to criticism and improvement, that it has escalated like it has should give you time to look inward, not lash outward. We can all improve the way that we wield the mop.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:31, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Jusjih, re the ping, "I disagree that Zhxy 519 made a valid point while I see systematic violations of Meta:Civility.", what??? I see no violations of Meta:Civility here, and there's been many cases much worse than that of which you're describing.
Might as well answer to "Revert User:Zhxy 519's renaming", you mean, the title was renamed by someone who didn't even bother asking nor even leave a courtesy message to Zhxy 519, hence why I proposed to rename the title back to the original one. And to Leave no redirect of excessive abusive titles. That only breaks links. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 07:21, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi,Jusjih “deny having asked for one” Office Action[4], but in zh.wikisource, Liuxinyu970226 claimed that after confirming with Ms. Maggie Dennis, WMF office has received Jusjih's request for Office Action against me. [5]. If this is true, I have to say what a liar and I can't imagine what will Jusjih do against other people secretly, even with ridiculous reasons.--Zhxy 519 (talk) 19:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello. My apologies for interjecting here. My attention was drawn via email to this thread. I just wanted to note that as a matter of fact I have not confirmed receipt of any such requests and could not, as I do not have visibility into that inbox. I assume that there is some misunderstanding. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for clarification. I've striked that claim that was misleaded by someone else. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 21:57, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
About the RFC that contested by both zh.wikisource administrators above, I saw that the creator is moved again to include "Jusjih" on the title, and said "has been found acting disruptive and abusive behaviours for years on many of those projects", however except zh.wikisource, I saw nothing other than L3 titles (Chinese Wikiquote, Chinese Wiktionary, Meta-Wiki and Other wikis), and unfortunatelly that RFC is closed as can be locally handled, but now what are the problems regarding Jusjih on other wikis? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:53, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Jusjih problems on other wikis: If meta counts as one, then yes, for not knowing meta wiki deletion policies as well as what gets an RfC and what doesn't. I'm sure there's problems on other wikis as well, but Rschen7754 would know more about that than I would. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 05:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Just don't know one deletion rationale doesn't make sense on the potential de-sysop, it may be sense if they repeatly abusing IAR on deletion requests. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Closing this as the subsequent detail does not belong here in the form that it is taking, it is not about the editors actions on this wiki. Wikis are self-governing communities and the above "he said, she said" statements above are clear evidence of why wikis are meant to fix up their issues.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:57, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. renaming declined, RFC already closed

Request to bring Visual Editing features of @enwiki to @kmwiki

Hi, I'm seeking the Visual Editing features of the English Wikipedia to be implemented in Khmer Wikipedia, especially the auto citation generation of the Cite feature by a click of inserting URL. Currently, the editing tool is lacking features and is difficult to use even for an experienced user. Please guide me if this is the right place to post for help. --Snsqr (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

@Snsqr: kmwiki has admins and bureaucrats - the later of which can promote interface administrators. Some of these features sound like local gadgets, which would need to be localized for your project - and possibly other parts are software features that would require a phabricator ticket. In either event, the meta-wiki admins would have nothing to do with this. I suggest your project discuss what you want to change, who will do it, and importantly - how you support your customization going forward, perhaps at w:km:វិគីភីឌា:ផតថលសហគមន៍. You may also want to seek input at Global sysops/Requests. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 15:34, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
For auto-reference, the tool is Citoid. First, you have to configure TemplateData for your citation templates (Khmer equivalents for {Citation}, {Cite web}, {Cite journal}…), especially ["maps"]["citoid"] map. Then, an interface admin has to create km:MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json (use English Wikipedia one as a template).
You can read more documentation.
Hope that helps. -- Pols12 (talk) 21:02, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
@Xaosflux:
Thanks for your guidance. I would post to w:km:វិគីភីឌា:ផតថលសហគមន៍ for attention. I thought it's a system-wide feature (I saw the implementation of the new Visual Editor in 2016 here https://km.wikipedia.org/wiki/វិគីភីឌា:ផតថលសហគមន៍#The_visual_editor_is_now_active_here), but I may be wrong.
@Pols12:
Thank you, this is exactly what I'm looking for. At @kmwiki, we lack experienced users/admins to implement the interface, and the admins assigned are inactive (though there is one temporary admin currently). I have a look at your links, but it is too complicated for me. Could you explain further in detail steps if possible, whether we can duplicate all the necessary templates of the current En wiki to Km wiki? How about the mapping process? I understand km:MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json can be created by copying the English Wikipedia one. The citation tools @kmwiki such as {Cite web} seem not work well, so if we can bring in the features first, we can later translate the required fields as necessary.
--Snsqr (talk) 02:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I imported the TemplateDatas and MediaWiki json from other wikis to kmwiki, but there appears to be errors in the w:km:Module:Citation/CS1/Utilities everytime I try to use the tool. --Trezoo (talk) 02:39, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
You don’t especially need complex templates like {en:cite web} which use Lua modules. If your community does not have enough technical skills to maintain these templates and modules, I think you should not import and use them.
Do you have other templates you use to cite references? What are the current habits? Citoid can’t write text without template, but it can use any template. -- Pols12 (talk) 13:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
The {Cite web}, for example, has been imported to kmwiki long ago, and all I did was imported the Citoid map. I also don’t know how to create a new template with less complexity. --Trezoo (talk) 23:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment Comment Can you please take this conversation to kmWP? This meta: page at metawiki is not the location for the extended discussion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up on my own talk page. --Pols12 (talk) 14:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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rfd for user page @Hitzeed Ch Reborn

Request for the deletion of user page as mentioned above for its incitement of hatred and violence toward particular individual user. Azmi1995 05:42, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Azmi1995: I see you linked to RfD, but didn't open an RFD (Meta:Requests for deletion) - are you having a problem opening an RFD discussion? — xaosflux Talk 15:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Initially I planned sending a request here before writing a message there. It then turned out that Veracious changed the page on 07:15 then Martin Urbanec set the global lock on 07:24. So, technically, I can say that the request has been done Azmi1995 17:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't think the retired tag suits this case either. As it's most likely locked global account template, but then I personally don't advocate tagging. Let me just revert to an non-offending edition of the page and I think we can do with it. I don't see any very gross attacks but since there is local concern, let's just revert to a previous position which might be the most suitable in this case. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
@Xaosflux, there is currently a related RfD discussion at Meta:Requests for deletion#User:Jimmyshjj. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
22:54, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Isn't that for a different page, this one is for User:Hitzeed Ch Reborn. In either case Not donexaosflux Talk 23:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought this was still Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2021-09#Request speedy deletion for User:Jimmyshjj for some reason. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
23:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Feel free to actually list a page for a deletion discussion. — xaosflux Talk 23:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Request "MassMessage sender" user right

I'm working for Wikipedia Asian Month 2021. In order to send messages across wikis, I wish to have the MassMessage sender user rights. Thanks for helping.--Reke (talk) 07:30, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@Reke Surely valid use, how long would you need it? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage, thank you for replying. According to the record of past two years, I suggest maybe 4 months, till the end of next January.--Reke (talk) 09:32, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
@Reke Granted for 6 months then. Do tell us if you need to extend it. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:42, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Block request

User: 2A02:C7F:4783:8F00:7DAA:E33B:7CC5:A3D9 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)

Reason: vandalism. JavaHurricane 08:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@JavaHurricane Blocked /64 for 1 week for now. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, please block 137.163.18.64 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA), an LTA creating attack pages. JavaHurricane 08:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@JavaHurricane Deleted, rev-del the logs, and blocked for 1 week as their 2nd block. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage: Thanks a lot! JavaHurricane 08:43, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
And I revdelled an additional log entry. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:44, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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Remove protection

Protection of Steward requests/Global permissions impedes new users' applications. Butcher2021 (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Not done that page has had significant vandalism and almost all posts to it that are actionable come from existing users. If you really want to go over this again, I'll punt to the stewards and you can bring it up at Stewards' noticeboard. — xaosflux Talk 01:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@Xaosflux
"almost all posts to it that are actionable come from existing users"
This claim is wrong.
For example, you can count how many users in Steward_requests/Global_permissions/2021-09#Requests_for_global_IP_block_exemption were not autoconfirmed when they applied.
I was exactly affected and till now my application has been blindly reverted many times and still ignored. Butcher2021 (talk) 07:30, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@Butcher2021: as I noted, please bring this up at SN - if the stewards want their workpage unprotected they can. Optionally, the directions could just be made better - for example if your post to the talk page were clear they were an edit request (such as if you used this edit request dialog) they should have been better handled. — xaosflux Talk 09:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
SRP was recently unprotected; maybe the same can happen at SRGP if disruption stays at a low level. Closing this here for now. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:42, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

please block

https://guc.toolforge.org/?src=hr&by=date&user=5.229.90.97 TenWhile6 (talk) 09:46, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Not done you are looking for SRG, only the stewards can do global blocks. Wouldn't bother chasing it, it seems to have stopped already.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Was gblocked (and blocked) for 31 hours shortly after this request (apparently even before Billinghurst's reply). ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:10, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:11, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Block request

User: 27.254.61.15 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) Reason: porn spam JavaHurricane 14:04, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Done Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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Block request

Please block Лжежопастий (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA): This is an vandalism-only account. --Ameisenigel (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

It maybe has already been blocked by someone globally with suppress, Special:CentralAuth/Лжежопастий. --Mykola7 (talk) 15:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Globally locked and revdeleted. Sgd. —Hasley 15:57, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for Patroller rights

I'd like to request patroller rights. I often meet vandalism here, and rollback feature will be more helpful in the fight against it. --Mykola7 (talk) 16:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

@Mykola7 Done; you don't have a lot of edits here on Meta, but as you are a content wiki sysop and global renamer, I didn't see any concerns. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:04, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. --Mykola7 (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:06, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Report concerning User:Иди накуй

Иди накуй (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Vandal Mykola7 (talk) 16:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

now locksuppressed. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:01, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:01, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Block request

User: 46.139.36.29 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)

Reason: xwiki disruption continues on meta after gblock. JavaHurricane 10:54, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Done Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:203.92.95.162

203.92.95.162 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Vandalism Mtarch11 (talk) 01:40, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Already blocked. — xaosflux Talk 01:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Request to edit fully protected page Legal/Legal Policies

Also tagging Billinghurst as the last protecting admin. Though I'm WMF staff, I do not have (or believe I qualify for) the advanced "staff" userright, so I'm currently unable to edit Legal/Legal Policies, as it is fully protected. I would like to make an update to the page on behalf of the Legal team. Would I either be able to have the page temporarily semi-protected instead of full-protected, or provide the text of the update to an administrator? Thank you! BChoo (WMF) (talk) 16:33, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Changed to semi-protected for now, let me know when you're done and I'll re-instate full protection. – Ajraddatz (talk) 16:42, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
@BChoo (WMF): I am sure that any of us would also be happy to update a page for you if the text was provided and a diff with the request (as CYA to prevent any trouble). --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz and TheSandDoctor: Thank you! The revision's complete for the time being. BChoo (WMF) (talk) 17:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
@BChoo (WMF): You're very welcome! I've gone ahead and re-fully protected the page citing your message. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:54, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
@BChoo (WMF): If you need to edit it, then prod the staff right allocaters to consider giving you the right. If the full protection doesn't work, then we can look to protect this through adding an abusefilter if that is a better way to do things. For us, staff right is easier.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Request for markup

please markup this category Special:Permalink/22158366 -- कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 15:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I assume you mean marking for translation. Not done, since none of the category members have translations/are marked for translation yet. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
15:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Yah I mean translation. thanks for your advice -- कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 16:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

hello I got some category markup. please look this Special:Permalink/20136230, Special:Permalink/17269677 -- कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 16:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are trying to suggest with these links. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
@कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया Are you asking us to help you prepare the page for translation and mark it for translation also? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:45, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage: जी, मैं यही कहने का प्रयास कर रहा हूं। कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 14:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
I think I got what they meant correctly. That will need some TA who have some spare time to mark it up then. More suited for Meta:Babylon in my opinion. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
ok, Thanks कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 08:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Lock request

User:Jimmyshjj-SAFETY,which was a sock puppet of User:Jimmyshjj who was locked with an expiration time of infinite (account creation disabled) due to vandalism.

 It looks like a duck to me puppet and See account creation log. Pavlov2 10:28, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Blocked. For lock requests, see SRG, though since the main account is not locked, it's not necessary in this case. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
10:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:5.176.243.240

5.176.243.240 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Translation test edits Seddon (talk) 00:32, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Warned for now. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
01:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Meta:Requests for oversight/Sotiale

Protect? Seems we have some sort of persistent disruption, ideas? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:25, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Done semi'd for a week. — xaosflux Talk 14:01, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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Edit request due to filter issue while translating Office actions/September 2021 statement

The abuse filter #92 has been triggered as I attempt to submit translation strings for such page in Korean. I assume that putting a username consisted of Chinese characters—which has been mentioned on the original page—in the translation caused the issue.

I'd like to request a bypass edit as following, In both Translations:Office actions/September 2021 statement/17/ko and Translations:Office actions/September 2021 statement/19/ko: Replacing @@ to 玄客. --121.155.145.26 08:08, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

All Mirage's edits are correct as I intended. Thanks for everyone's help. --121.155.145.26 04:40, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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Please remove CNA from Tonina Zhelyazkova (WMDE)

@MF-Warburg @MarcoAurelio Hello, could you please remove CNA from Tonina Zhelyazkova (WMDE)? They're no longer a WMDE employee (I just locked the account). Thanks! Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:04, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. --MF-W 11:48, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Just an note: On Babel there are discussions of CNA inactivity removals, just for more publicity and is sort of linked to this topic. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:08, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
15:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Report 14.0.173.185

Global lock user Kapol6360 sock,edit impersonation global ban user 蟲蟲飛,please see zh:LTA:Kapol6360.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 09:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Most likely they have already left that IP. --Sotiale (talk) 04:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Not done Stale at this moment, re-report if they continues. They should have moved on to another IP and we aren't blocking the range as there can be collateral for the IP range. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
12:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for page deletion

Hi there, I am here to request for the deletion of page User:Cosine02/globaljsdreddedr, User:Cosine02/global.js and User:Cosine02/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js. These pages are under the title of my former username, and they will never be used. Thanks. Stang 00:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 03:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
12:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Edit request for MediaWiki:Centralnotice-template-POTY 2020 R2

Please delete the <i> tag in

<i>{{{fin-text}}}</i>

Because text in non-Latin scripts (such as Greek, Cyrillic or Chinese) should not be italicized. See en:MOS:BADITALICS. --魔琴 (talk) 02:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:114.122.105.223

114.122.105.223 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Vandalism Mtarch11 (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Sgd. —Hasley 03:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
12:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Email harassing from Apple1575

Apple1575 sent several emails through Special:Emailuser to me, claiming that he/she is Special:Contributions/Kapol6360. Please block Apple1575 and remove his/her access to emailing user. Tiger (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I see global lock request would be better, I will report the case to SRG then. Tiger (talk) 15:04, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: moot as user as been glocked. — xaosflux Talk 00:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for deletion of unused archives

Hello! Steward requests/Global has recently transitioned to weekly (instead of monthly) archives. Due to this, Steward requests/Global/2021-11 and Steward requests/Global/2021-12 will not be used. Could someone please delete them? (I can't add a deletion tag to them due to an edit filter.) Thank you! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 19:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Sgd. —Hasley 19:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 21:16, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
20:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for patroller

Hi, I will like to be the patroller right here at meta, here's some of my rvv and mark as CSD, [6], [7], [8], thanks.--Jonathan5566(talk) 13:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Why are all the 3 diffs the same? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:01, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
+ I count less than 20 undos as well as less than 10 CSD (admin only link) as well as please don't RR war with trolls as these are unproductive. I think more experience is needed. I sort of supported your autopatrol but I don't think you are ready for patroller. Sorry. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Agree and I don't see the point of granting the rights.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now. Feel free to request again once you've collected sufficient experience in antivandalism. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
15:34, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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To merge versions

Good day!

Description:

This edition

cancels the revision I made to the RFC I created. I set anchors without editing someone else's text to be able to link to

from my reply

As a result of edition (1), links (2) and (3) were broken, which were already used to address replicas on external resources and are now invalid too.

I am asking for help:

  • Since I do not object to the possibility of parallel existence of both structures, therefore I ask to restore my version of the discussion structure by merging the current version of the article with the state before the edition (1).
  • I also ask on behalf of the administration to inform the opponent that when addressing, addressing my remarks and in other cases, that I ask to adhere to the use of my name in the form "Va", that is, as I indicate in the signature and as it was in the version, which was removed by revision (1).
  • I also ask you to pay attention to possible interference in the text of some persons by other persons, which may at least be unethical.

Thank you in advance.

The original text in Russian:

Добрый день!

Описание: Данная редакция (1) https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project&diff=prev&oldid=22216587 отменяет сделанную мной редакцию в созданно мной RfC. Я установил якоря не редактируя чужой текст для возможности сослаться на (2) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project#Taylor_49-1 из моей реплики (3) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project#Va-1 Как итог редакции (1) были сломаны ссылки (2) и (3), которые уже использованы для адресации к репликам на внешних ресурсах и теперь невалидны.

Я прошу помочь:

  • Поскольку я не возражаю против возможности паралельного существования обоих структур, поэтому я прошу восстановить мой вариант структуры дискуссии путём слияния текущей редакции статьи с состоянием до редакции (1).
  • Также прошу от лица администрации сообщить оппоненту, что при обращении, адресации к моим репликам и в других случаях, что я прошу придерживаться использования моего имени в форме "Va", то есть так, как я указываю в подписи и как было в версии, которая была удалена редакцией (1).
  • Также прошу обратить внимание на возможные вмешательства в текст одних лиц со стороны других лиц, что может быть как минимум не этично.

Заранее благодарю.

Va (🖋️) 10:48, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Vami: as all of these edits are to the same page, administrator technical work is not required to "merge" anything - simply make a new revision of the page. — xaosflux Talk 13:26, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vami (talk) 15:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:ColinD12

ColinD12 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Special:Diff/22237328 KevinL (aka L235 · t) 05:21, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 05:42, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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Reporting 106.130.59.153

Vandalism --MdsShakil (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Done --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:43, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
I've added a global block as they have been vandalising on three different projects. QuiteUnusual (talk) 11:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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Request for MassMessage

Hi, I'd like to request to assign me MassMessage sender rights, I serve as an EduWiki Outreach Collaborator (newsletter publisher) for Wikimedia Education and we have to sent message on several talk pages. Previously MassMessage sender (temporary) was assigned by Camouflaged Mirage, I'm requesting this time permanent rights till further notice. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 14:15, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Donexaosflux Talk 15:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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Should Leonardo José Raimundo be autopatrolled?

I presume anyone who has made an edit to SRG would have been thank bombed by this user and looking at the thank log, it seems this has been going on for some time now. Given the autopatroller right is only for trusted users, it's quite obvious that this user is not and was wondering if any sysop could remove their AP status. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 12:28, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
@Sotiale: Thanks :) SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 12:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Erm...while I don't contest the autopatrol removal as mass thanking is nuisance and can be deemed within the margin of admin discretion to yank the right, but how does removing autopatrol solve the issue of mass thanking? If they are warned enough, they need more sanctions IMO. We don't have a partial block for thanking though. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:45, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
It doesn't – but I do hope Leonardo learns off it. They were warned in August, and yet they still mass thanked users. But I don't think even blocking prevents thanking users but I'm not sure. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 12:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Good question, I am thinking can we do a partial block w/o any parameters set in to see does it prevent thanking. I guess I had to test on someone. Let me try. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:51, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
A full block does indeed prevent thanking, if this persist, we can have that option. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if my explanation is needed, but I think the meaning of what I did was written enough on their talkpage. The next step will be what CM thinks. --Sotiale (talk) 13:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I given a crystal clear final warning. If they persist, do re-report, I will be willing to impose a block for it (if it's close to their thanking spree as blocks are preventative, not punitive and should not be used to convey a message in most cases). Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
It seems that their behaviour was not just on meta alone. See the pt.wikipedia log (although they're now blocked, although don't know why) SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 13:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
w:pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos_a_administradores/Discussão_de_bloqueio/Leonardo_José_Raimundo/2. Google translate: Harassment via many means of other editors which mass thanking play a significant part of it. There is unanimous consensus to block them indefinitely. So here we have sort of a crosswiki abuse case? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Looks like it. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 13:22, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Seems to have ceased for now, so closing.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:49, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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Mass deletion of duplicated translation pages

Because of a bug, many translation pages were not moved when I move some translatable pages. I have created them again in their new location, but now I need some help to remove their old duplicates. Can a sysop remove the following ones, please?

-- Pols12 (talk) 15:56, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Doing... Sgd. —Hasley 16:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Pols12, leaving aside for the moment as those pages are still widely transcluded and will need to be replaced first (some of them have been broken). I also have concerns about the attribution of copied translations, and would prefer a second opinion from someone else. Sgd. —Hasley 16:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
After reviewing, I indeed missed 6 pages which are now fixed (I created missing redirects).
For these 3 pages, translations have not been copied but created by a null-edit. This is not an ideal solution to keep attribution, but this is much more simple from a technical point of view. Attribution are kept in Translations: namespace. -- Pols12 (talk) 17:22, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Done. Sgd. —Hasley 17:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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I was blocked on Wikipedia for no reason

I didn’t get a chance to edit and I was already blocked. I couldn’t edit my talk, I can’t message Zzuuzz here. I want an answer. Abackpride (talk) 18:38, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Zzuuzz ping. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
What does that mean? Abackpride (talk) 18:41, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

But what am I supposed to do? I’m not able to edit my talk, and I can’t message Zzuuzz. Abackpride (talk) 18:47, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

There is an email address on that page you may contact. Again, there is nothing at all we can do here on the meta-wiki. — xaosflux Talk 19:02, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Are meta pages meant to serve as incubator pages?

The title says most of what I'm going to say, but I stumbled across pages like Wiki Bíblia/Gênesis and random Bible verses in Brazilian Portuguese created by Leonardo José Raimundo. Do meta pages serve as incubator pages until such projects are accepted in the incubator? I've never seen this kind of material on meta before, but I don't exactly know how these work so don't know. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 10:44, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000 Clearly incubator pages needs to be transwiki there, let me @Sotiale and Minorax: for advice. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
AFAIK, for a page to be considered "in scope" in incubator, it has to be an approved project (wp, wikt, ...) and of a approved language. The above page is not an approved project and is considered out of scope there. @MF-Warburg: should be able to clarify on this. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
If that's actually the Bible, it may not be appropriate to import it into incubatorwiki. mulws acts as an incubator for Wikisource. Before that.. it is appropriate for page imports to be done according to the user's request. Previously imported pages proceeded as requested. --Sotiale (talk) 13:09, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you @Minorax@Sotiale for replies, understood that it might not be in scope for incubator. But IMHO is also out scope here, delete? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
It'll be better if the deletion is raised at RfD. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
True too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Deleted. Not only out-of-scope for Meta. Probably even copyrighted. --MF-W 16:21, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't think Bible verses are copyrighted (as the copyright would have expired) but thanks for deleting it SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 20:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
On another note, can someone delete:
A bunch of categories created by Leonardo José Raimundo which are also OOS. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 21:07, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Done. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks :) SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 21:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Impersonator

User:Hampton Catlin is impersonating w:en:Hampton Catlin a former WMF employee

Please block. Cabayi (talk) 11:33, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Done, blocked and locked. Can you please inform the WMF? Trijnsteltalk 11:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Trijnstel, I emailed ca@WMF as part of the rename request & again to inform them of this block request. Thanks for the quick response. I'll go delete his hoax userpage from enwiki now. Cabayi (talk) 11:52, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Block request

User: 2A02:2788:6B4:ABF:95E7:595F:EAAA:7733 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)

Reason: creating false translations (which need nuking). JavaHurricane 06:14, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Not done not required  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:32, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Block request 2

User: 37.29.40.55 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)

Reason: harassment, long-term abuse. See history of SRP, and a rangeblock may also be needed. JavaHurricane 06:28, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Already done  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:33, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Request for MassMessage senders

Hello there, I would like to request for MassMessage senders status for the following accounts: Athikhun.suw and Karto1. This is to have a channel to promote Wiki Science Competition 2021 in Thailand, particularly to previous participants from Wiki Science Competition 2017 in Thailand, via Special:MassMessage. Thank you in advance for considering. --Karto1 (talk) 04:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

@Karto1 Hello, can I have a sample MMS message and the list of recipients. And how long shall we grant? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage The sample MMS message can be seen here Talk:WSC 2021-TH/MMS, and the list of recipients is here WSC 2021-TH/MMS. We would like to ask for the status for at least 3 months starting in November 2021. --Karto1 (talk) 07:36, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
@Karto1 Am I right is all to be delivered to commons userpages? Since is 1 wiki, is there any chance to ask at COM:AN for MMS help. Anyway, I will defer to another sysop to grant as I am not too sure of commons MMS policies. There are plenty of meta sysops who are also commons sysops, so won't be too long for this to be reviewed. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
I have asked on COM:AN, so the message has been sent on our behalf and should be all good. Still, I would like to wait for whether or not the status can be granted, namely for Athikhun.suw as he is the chair of WMTH. If that is not possible, we can request for any future messages to be sent on our behalf on the commons boards again. --Karto1 (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
I sent the message on Commons per c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Request for MassMessage for delivering to Commons. I believe Meta should not involve itself in such matters. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Since there is opposition by local project for meta involvement, sorry @Karto1 I cannot grant the right here as we respect each project rules when granting rights which will have crosswiki impact. Thanks @4nn1l2 for the inputs, much appreciated. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:47, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
I understand; thank you Camouflaged Mirage for the replies and 4nn1l2 again for sending the message on our behalf. --Karto1 (talk) 10:01, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
So closing as Not done but should you need the right to send elsewhere on multiple projects, do request again here for consideration. We will take it case by case. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:02, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:51.39.115.95

51.39.115.95 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Translation vandalism Stang 04:25, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

@Stang: It appears the IP has now been blocked by Minorax. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 06:10, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:148.3.89.179

148.3.89.179 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: Globally locked sock of LTA vandal DaisyBus2017 has apparently found out that they are not blocked on Meta. Sjö (talk) 06:39, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Done --WhitePhosphorus (talk) 06:54, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
TPA revoked too. Globally blocked too, nothing more to do. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning 106.130.53.164

106.130.53.164 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: translation vandal Stang 20:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Sgd. —Hasley 20:51, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning 2409:4070:4001:b815::b53:8a5

2409:4070:4001:b815::b53:8a5 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: translation vandal. Stang 22:30, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Sgd. —Hasley 22:33, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Report concerning User:Sabas88

Sabas88 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)Reasons: created spammy page WikiMemes User Group. -- Jeff G. ツ (please ping or talk to me) 13:06, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

This page is really spam! --MdsShakil (talk) 14:52, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes, it should be deleted. -- Jeff G. ツ (please ping or talk to me) 23:42, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
@Jeff G. and MdsShakil: I looked at the page. It is not exactly "the best" that the Wikimedia community has to offer, but I fail to see how this is spam.  Mysterymanblue  02:28, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
MdsShakil, I didn't get one thing. If you consider this spam, then why have you joined the user group. --Hulged (talk) 04:09, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
@Hulged I didn't say it was spam. Obviously it can't be spam -- MdsShakil (talk) 05:32, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure MdsShakil was being sarcastic there. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 06:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Erm...@Jeff G. Can you explain in clearer terms why the page is spam? If it's sensitive, feel free to email me if needed. This isn't clear and if the page isn't spam the user shouldn't be warned / blocked. Thanks so much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:52, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage: The primary purpose of the page appears to be driving traffic to the group's Telegram, Facebook, and Instagram pages, two of which glorify shitposting by name. Shitposting on WMF projects is abusive, as is glorification and promotion of it. -- Jeff G. ツ (please ping or talk to me) 12:52, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
@Jeff G. Thank you for the reply. Seeing there are some oppositions here, might wish to refer to RFD as CSD can only be applied when there isn't opposition. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:56, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, it should probably be just tagged with the humour template. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 07:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Not done; please refrain from making frivolous (block?) requests against users that have 50.000+ edits globally and are editing in good faith, when an RFD against the one page you don't like is sufficient. --MF-W 16:13, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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Template documentation Lua broken

It looks {{documentation}} and/or Module:Documentation is broken. Can someone with Lua knowledge please help fix it? CC to @GeneralNotability. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:17, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

This is an unbreak now, so I have rolled back a couple of versions to have something working. Someone can fix it in the sandbox.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:45, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Billinghurst, that was a screwup on my part - today I've learned that I should not be using the "import templates" button during xwiki import unless I really know what's going to get imported. Sorry about that, folks. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
For import, never click that checkbox unless absolutely clear, it does override existing local templates which makes the history convoluted and it will mess up existing templates. The history of this template now seems like what a page history looks like when a histmerge is done on 2 pages with parallel histories. Mind I temporary delete and restore to keep the clean version? Well not to blame @GeneralNotability, import isn't easy work to do, I learned the hard way at zh too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:50, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Camouflaged Mirage, please do. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:15, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
I need a couple of seconds at least, on second thoughts those few seconds might break something, I think let's leave it as it is. Ignore my not well thought of suggestion, sorry. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: seems that nothing else needs to be done and we are okay with the current situation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)