Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2020-02

Block request BANNED - UNDERAGE

• BANNED - UNDERAGE (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) Reason: Vandalism - Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 09:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Done.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 09:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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Special:Contributions/‎125.161.107.252

Kindly block. Minorax (talk) 09:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Done for 3days ‐‐1997kB (talk) 09:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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Special:Contributions/37.111.224.142

Vandalism. -- CptViraj (📧) 10:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Translation ready

Hi, should this still be done manually, or do I overlook something here? Thanks!

• CNBanner:Wikiloveslove2020-text/fy

--PiefPafPier (talk) 18:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Done it's to prevent users from vandalizing translations of banners, which are usually highly visble. An admin needs to approve a translation. i did that now. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:119.30.45.196

119.30.45.196 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: blanking pages. Sgd. Hasley 20:13, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Done. Matiia (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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MassMessage sender right

Hello, I would like to request the MassMessage sender right (per instructions here) to be able to send the newsletter for Wikimedians for Sustainable Development. Ainali (talk) 21:00, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• Done Trusted user wishing to deliver the regular newsletter of a pending (likely soon to be approved) WM User Group (Wikimedians for Sustainable Development). Inspected next newsletter and receiptent list, no concerns. Please review MassMessage#Global message delivery before sending. ~riley (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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User:82.113.99.143

Vandalism. -- CptViraj (📧) 15:25, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please delete User:Catherine Laurence/global.js ‎

Thanks. Now no need because I use another account. Catherine Laurence (talk) 05:32, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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User:Pakelectricalservice

Crosswiki spam. Request to block.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:40, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Blocked indef. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 10:43, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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Patroller flag for Ahmad252 (talk · contribs)

Hello. I'm asking for the patroller flag for my account (Ahmad252) so that I can fight vandalism more effectively. As a member of SWMT, I usually use SWViewer. Because of this, I try to watch Meta's changes in real-time and revert vandalism. The patroller flag will help me in this, as well as in reviewing new unpatrolled pages. Thank you. Ahmad^talk 11:16, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Strong support--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:32, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Done, no issues in granting. Vermont (talk) 11:41, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Ahmad^talk 11:58, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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85.242.156.33

Please nuke all their contributions. Thanks! —Sgd. Hasley 19:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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Antivandalism (local)

Quoting an edit filter: If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Antivandalism (local), I posted a shorter Proposal to close comment.
Presumably you have a blacklist including "jirks and decks" matching the title of a "historic" RFC. On enwiki they have a "fock and purn" filter, I'm not sure how helpful against vandalism that actually is. –84.46.52.96 07:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you are caught in the abusefilter. I have modified your comment to include what you originally intended to say (per the abuse filter). You can edit it from there if you modify it in any way (should you have changed your mind). All the best, ~riley (talk) 08:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Fortunately the not logged-in vandals don't know the simple tricks to bypass these filters. –84.46.53.59 17:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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+autopatrol for User:Rowingbohe

Trusted user. Sysop elsewhere.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:84.17.56.34

84.17.56.34 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: LTA. Sgd. Hasley 00:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Must be a spambot of some sorts. Please take quick action of this user. Zaxxon0 (talk) 00:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

It has been handled. Matiia (talk) 02:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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+ autopatrol for User:EllenCT

No need to patrol apparently.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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User:I_like_partial_blocks

Vandalism-only account. -- — The preceding unsigned comment was added by CptViraj (talk)

Comment was unsigned due to above user damaging a comment tag while it was being posted. RhinosF1 (talk) 14:04, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Blocked + locked.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 14:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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New Slovak translation of the stewards elections banner

Hello. I've made a new Slovak translation of the stewards elections banner. Could you, please, publish it? --MmichaelDr. (talk, contributions) 20:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Done Just done. Should take effect within several hours. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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Thai translation update in stewards elections banner

I have made some minor language adjustments for Thai translation. Please update it. --Patsagorn Y. (Talk) 03:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Reviewed translation. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 07:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Very strange; I am not able to change the state to published. Published by Martin Urbanec. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 08:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Sitewide rangeblock for 2607:FB90:0:0:0:0:0:0/32

Hello, will you please inform that I would get an help to the admin to impose an imminent sitewide rangeblock for 2607:FB90:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 xwiki-contribs • ST • IP info • WHOIS • robtex • gblock • glist • abuselog • bullseye, because he is doing the w:WP:LTA/DRV again, thanks. 64.113.165.126 18:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

• Not done Sufficent restrcictions are in place here on Meta, with a global block in place for other wikis. ~riley (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Serbian translation update in stewards elections banner

I have made some minor language adjustments for Serbian translation. Can you please update it? --Acamicamacaraca (talk) 21:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

• Not working for me, might require a CNA. Ping Martin Urbanec. ~riley (talk) 21:22, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Done I believe TAs should be able to publish too, but I confirmed with riley via IRC they can't, althrough they can edit [1]. I'll look into it. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Patroller for Kostas20142

Hello! I would like to request patroller rights on meta-wiki. I am experienced with anti-vandalism on enwiki and wikidata and I also monitor wikis, including meta via SWViewer, so I think I could help meta that way. thanks in advance! --Kostas20142 (talk) 21:15, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

• Done No concerns with this request. Over 800 edits here on Meta and active with the SWMT. ~riley (talk) 21:20, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:116.58.207.161

116.58.207.161 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: removing content from pages. Sgd. Hasley 22:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Request creation "user:霜奶仙是傻逼" and "user:肏霜奶仙他妈", content is "{{doppelganger|霜奶仙}}"

These two accounts are my separate doppelganger users.--霜奶仙 (talk) 07:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I will suggest against creation. These accounts as far as I now is to prevent impersonation and vulgar usernames towards them per SRUC, but I am not keen for such pages to be created where the title is vulgar in nature. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

• Not done = @霜奶仙: I understand where you are coming from, I have about 2 accounts made per day with my name involving profanities so I know this can both be frustrating and hurtful. My rule of thumb is that if the Account Creations team wouldn't approve creation, we shouldn't. Intentionally creating doppelganger usernames to prevent impersonation is one thing, but it is another to create vulgar doppelganger usernames. The point that you're missing is that if "x is stupid" is taken, they will just make "is an idiot" instead. Let's not feed the trolls. If this abuse becomes long-term and all other options fail, we can consider adding your username to the title blacklist as a last resort. Sorry to decline this request. ~riley (talk) 00:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Disruptive voting from user:Liuxinyu970226

Yet again, Liuxinyu970226 is creating hostile and inappropriate comments in this election. He was warned in 2019 for making baseless accusations and other nonsense, but it doesn't appear to have sunk in. Can someone please do something about these ridiculous comments which include implying that a current Steward is dead, another implying that stewards are going to "hit" corona virus (often repeatedly) and blatantly trolling with absurd questions. This is highly inappropriate in any forum, much less Steward elections and seems to be a continuing trend. I'd propose a partial block from election pages. Praxidicae (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Looking into this. Vermont (talk) 13:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

I also forgot this baseless accusation that Base is somehow a threat to Crimea? Praxidicae (talk) 13:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

I have left a note on their talk page, please see User talk:Liuxinyu970226#Notice. Thank you for reporting this issue. Best regards, Vermont (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

+ Autopatrolled removed, for now Liu Xinyu edits need to be patrolled.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 13:45, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

@Aldnonymous: For how long? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

At least until stew election done, I really can't understand why you did this kind of actions, it's only preventive.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 15:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

And should (or even must) I stop participating all the future SE20XX votings? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Do you understand why your actions are an issue? I don't get the impression that you do, which is more problematic. Praxidicae (talk) 15:37, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

No, you are mistaking my action, I just don't want you to do anything that listed here Incivility#Examples. Please read Meta:Civility.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 15:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

So you think it is OK to tell me to be infected with a disease? And you didn't expect a consequences when you display such a huge amount of incivility, or otherwise worded, curse? That sounds too naive to me. — regards, Revi 16:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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+Autopatrol for User:Taranet

Sysop on fawiki, should not have a need to patrol.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:32, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Done.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 14:33, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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+autopatrol for User:Zppix

Trusted user. Thanks :).--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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es translation for SE CN banner

Please update MediaWiki:Centralnotice-stewvote-text1/es. I've fixed the translation (diff). CentralNotice banners can't use wikitext. Thanks. —Sgd. Hasley 22:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Please also update MediaWiki:Centralnotice-stewvote-text1/io, MediaWiki:Centralnotice-stewvote-text1/ms and MediaWiki:Centralnotice-stewvote-text1/pam. —Sgd. Hasley 22:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

• @Martin Urbanec: Ping. ~riley (talk)

Done. Matiia (talk) 03:07, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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False positive spam risk

Hello! My organization recently submitted an application to become a Wiki User Group and was subsequently told to create a wikimedia page for our organization. As I was in the process of publishing the first draft, I received a spam risk violation and wanted to clear that with a sysop or bureaucrat. The page link is here. --Ithaker (talk) 23:29, 13 February 2020 (UTC) -- Original message ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Ithaker: I have created it at Helping Give Away Psychological Science, if you still faces issue reply here and we can do the necessary. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

For any further issues, please start a new thread and we are happy to help. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:173.225.243.40

173.225.243.40 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: vandalism here https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki_Loves_Folklore&diff=next&oldid=19807003&diffmode=source --Nattes à chat (talk) 13:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC) Nattes à chat (talk) 13:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Not done, has stopped. Also they made only one edit. Warned. Thanks for reporting. —Sgd. Hasley 14:06, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, let's warn first. RDed the summary, it's way too disruptive for my liking. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:끼세런스증가

끼세런스증가 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: Sandbox-like edit on my talk page; all contributions (e.g.) are crude Korean according to Google Translate. Pols12 (talk) 23:51, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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Request for closure for Meta:Requests for comment/Enable 2FA on meta for all users

Hello, as I am involved in the discussion I can't close it. Hope for an uninvolved sysop to close this as it is almost 1 year and 3 months already and there had not been active discussions since after Dec. I read through the entire RFC, there seems not to have any consensus on implementation, with both for / against having good points and they are not effectively rebutted by either side, leaving there to be a stalemate. In addition, there is a suggestion for global RFC but I will caution against as this is just to enable 2FA on meta, not globally, the scope should be limited to a meta RFC. Thanks much. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Time is not ripe for closure yet, apparently.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:Μακαρονια με Κιμα

Μακαρονια με Κιμα (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: Disruptively putting sockpuppetry templates on random pages. FNAFPUPPETMASTER (talk) 19:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Please block this user. Thanks.--Turkmen ^talk 19:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Done --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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Special:AbuseFilter/169

Hello. Could somebody tell me why global filter no. 169 block some normal edits, such as wikt:ko:특수:편집필터기록/1623? Thanks. --Garam _talk 19:21, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I can't see what is being blocked @Garam: as the kowiki AF is set to be private. @-revi: can you look into this issue? Thanks.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

"그래프" is triggering. — regards, Revi 11:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Camouflaged Mirage: The contributor is asking about the action of the global filter. [2].

@Garam: Casino spam, guessing it will be one of the words "카지노", "그래프", "놀이터" or an English version of the word casino, or something like that where it is a new page and the user doesn't have some level of non-zero rights. The filter was discussed with Revi prior to implementation. Anyway, I have scraped the text and created the page wikt:ko:코로나.

Recently we gained the ability to skip wikis with filter rules, and I have now excluded kowikt from this rule.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:22, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I am just wanting to verify which edits the local filter caught. I didn't went that back to 10 Feb for our filter logs. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

If they are here mentioning one of our filters, and a specific wiki, we should just hand over the results to trusted users. You can run a quick filter for kowiktionary hits and it is pretty evident that the first mentions are those of interest.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Noted. Will do so next time. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:38, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. --Garam _talk 19:32, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Requesting Mass Message Rights for Max Klemm (WMDE)

Hereby I request mass message rights for myself, Max Klemm (WMDE). I work in the Technical Wishes Team at Wikimedia Germany, and I am responsible for the Community Communication with Johanna Strodt (WMDE). Since she will be absent from work from mid March, I will need the mass messaging rights to communicate the major software changes to the Wiki communities. --For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 10:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Max Klemm (WMDE): How long do you require the right and can you give a sample of the mass message. Thanks.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: I did not write any mass messages yet, but my colleague Johanna Strodt (WMDE) published a message about the full beta release of FileExporter and the advanced search deployment. Even though I did not post those texts, I will be responsible for doing so in the future, which is why I would need indefinite access.— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk)

Looks good to me. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Max Klemm (WMDE): Granted. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:56, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Block request Наран Лиджиев

• Наран Лиджиев (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) Reason: LTA. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 13:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
• Globally locked.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Protect the SRG page

Good morning everyone. Please protect the SRG page. It has been recently vandalized multiple times by long-term abusers in the past seven to ten day(s). Notable examples of vandalism include: this edit, this edit and also this edit. Thankfully, some of the users have already been globally locked by some stewards, including Defender, Revi and Matanya. I know that Hasley and WikiBayer have some experience with this particular LTA. Please see also the revision history. I saw that there have been more than ten reversions in probably the past couple of days. I do hope that the SRG page will definitely be fully protected by someone. Thank you and have a great day. 185.163.46.141 05:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

I believe that the next level of protection is "sysop only". The page is frequently edited by non-admins and protecting it as "sysop only" doesn't seem to do any good. Minorax (talk) 05:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Basically per Minorax, we can't increase the level of protection, the only solution is to keep watch of the page and block/lock the LTA.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 09:08, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Concurred. Best is to revert, block, ignore those users. They are clearly gaming autopromotion to autoconfirm, but still manageable, or else we can deploy some abuse filters. Just to note that is a steward page and meta sysops typically defer to stewards to manage their own pages. If uncontrolled, stewards should be able to respond accordingly. Thanks for the report, we will keep an eye on it. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it does look like we do need more admins here. 185.163.46.141 12:32, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

We need more admins always, but we need active ones and for now, the coverage seems alright to me as compared to a year ago.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

I do have a great idea, we should add some edit filters so that this LTA won't edit on SRG anymore because it's been happening all the way back since last month. 185.163.46.141 12:36, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Not now, blocking is still the best. Closing this thread as nothing more is required at the present. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:39, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

• Just a note about these threads: One of the LTAs loves to point out how much vandalism the SRG/related pages gets. Other patterns of behaviour include pinging random admins. Please, if you see threads like these in the future, just revert and block on sight. Deny recognition and all that. – Ajraddatz (talk) 17:42, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

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Request for flood

Hi. Can I please be flagged as a flooder for a bit (I'm about to get off for today, and don't know how long it'll take when I'm back, so ~2 days should be enough) to clean up translations of links at Meta:Policies and guidelines? The whole translated message for links is currently, eg, <translate><!--T:65-->[[<tvar|1>Special:MyLanguage/Terms of use</>|Terms of use]]</translate>. This results in a translation [[$1|translate the message here]]. Only the piped text should be in the translation unit, simplifying translation without no net change in the end. To transition, current translations need to be updated, which will be a lot of repetitive edits that would flood rc. I have read Meta:Flood flag, and if I need to make any edits that shouldn't be hidden I'll use one of my alts. Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

This needs a crat attention. @DannyS712: If without flood how much edits will you be making? If it's not like 100/ min in RC should be fine w/o flood. No opposition in granting flood though just there are only 3 crats.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Its hundreds of edits, and I'd prefer to be able to make them quickly so it doesn't take as long --DannyS712 (talk) 20:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712: Noted. I will try to find a crat for this. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Asking @Base and Kaganer regarding the proposed changes. If they're okay, them I am too re granting flood. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:44, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

It is tagged correctly now. It gives important context to the translator as well as helps Translate interface render translation as a link in its preview. --Base (talk) 14:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Base: Do you then oppose DannyS712's proposed edits? Regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

MarcoAurelio, I do. --Base (talk) 15:52, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Then {{not done}} per Base. Do discuss the edits somewhere and when there is consensus, come back to request for flood to execute the changes if needed --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Base. Current scheme is optimal; please do not broke this. In common case, proposed change may be doing by single edit; Flood flag is unneeded for this task.--Kaganer (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

@Base, DannyS712, and MarcoAurelio: I'm re-check this page, and I tend to agree with Danny's idea. In common case, current scheme is better; but Meta:Policies and guidelines is mainly table, and first column in this table entirely filled by wiki-links. Thus, the proposed simplification for the first column seems reasonable, and I  Support its implementation, but flood flag for this seems redundant. Initial change may be doing by single edit; and then should be needs update very many translated strings - but translation namespase excluded from default view of the Recent Changes. --Kaganer (talk) 23:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Danny, Thank you for the initiative and the willingness to implement it! Please note: i'm made some edits (to isolate the remaining direct links in the second column).--Kaganer (talk) 23:41, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Removed the not done for further discussion.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:54, 26 February 2020 (UTC)