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Notifications from Langcom about proposed approvals

Rakhine Wikipedia

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Rakhine. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. --MF-W 19:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

For the record: Still trying to obtain verification of the content. --MF-W 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

...but it is going on! --MF-W 09:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Any update? --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 06:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg, Is there anything I can help for this? Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 12:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I've sent you an email. -- MF-W 15:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I would like to know why this wiki(wp/rki) is taking so long to approve. I have already prepared the requests. I am currently helping as a second time test admin in wp/rki. If there are any needs, please feel free to let me know.@MF-Warburg @Joseph @Ninjastrikers YaThaWinTha (talk) 10:10, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

YaThaWinTha: I am sending you an email. --MF-W 10:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

I am noting here that the issues are planned to be resolved in January or February. --MF-W 15:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Nupe Wikipedia

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T390384

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Nupe. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. --Sotiale (talk) 14:56, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@787IYO: I would like to ask you to check whether all the settings on the above proposal page are appropriate. Project namespace and Project talk namespace are empty now. --Sotiale (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Also "west Africa" is not a valid timezone. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 05:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Also I have set our timezone which is GMT +1.787IYO (talk) 20:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

That's still not the right format (it should be a country/location pair listed in w:List_of_tz_database_time_zones. I'm just going to assume you want w:List of tz database time zones#LAGOS. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:20, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

I have checked and have made the necessary inputs to the settings. 787IYO (talk) 20:36, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Still doesn't look quite right. "Project talk namespace" should normally be some constant prefix or suffix applied to the project namespace, but here "Fere Egan" has nothing to do with "Wikipedia". Them differing is technically possible, but it is weird. (Also you haven't set a logo, but that's fine - it will just default to the logo for the English Wikipedia). * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:24, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Good day, I have done as requested, please check and see if there is any more information needed. Regards 787IYO (talk) 10:19, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

@787IYO: 'Project talk namespace' should be 'Wikipedia talk'.. Please correct it right now. --Sotiale (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I have done as requested. 787IYO (talk) 22:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Madurese Wikisource

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikisource Madurese. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. --Sotiale (talk) 12:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

@Agus Damanik: Please make sure all settings are correct. Thanks. --Sotiale (talk) 12:18, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Discussions

Request for Approval of Maithili Wiktionary

I would like to bring to your attention that the Maithili Wiktionary meets the criteria for approval as per the Wikimedia Language Committee’s guidelines. The project has sustained activity, meets localization requirements, and serves a significant linguistic community.

Since the project is still awaiting approval, I kindly request the committee to consider its approval at the earliest. Your support in this regard will be highly appreciated by the Maithili-speaking community.

Looking forward to your response. DevGeekStar (talk) 09:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you have no other contributors except for your contribution this month, and it was completely inactive until March 2022, when you became active. It is not possible to approve it at this time, but it can be approved if you can continue the project with enough of your colleagues. --Sotiale (talk) 15:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Campidanese Sardinian elligibility

Dear LangCom, I'd like to propose a reevaluation of Campidanese Sardinian, specifically Wp/sro, elligibility status, basing myself on the third requisite for elligibility, under the Language proposal policy: «The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language.». In this case, I argue that, since a Sardinian Wikipedia exists, and Sardinian is considered (at least taking into account SIL's ISO 639-3) a macrolanguage, a more general wiki already exists and is capable of accomodating Campidanese (check this for instance). — Garcez (talk) 14:16, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Pinging some people that might be interested: @Liuxinyu970226, @L2212, @Ooswesthoesbes — Garcez (talk) 14:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not a member of the Langcom, so I have no influence over this. Instead, I'll ping User:MF-Warburg, a more active member who can put it forth on the mailing list. --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 14:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the ping, I also support the reevaluation for the reasons that were also explained on previous discussions on the matter (here: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). In short yes, Campidanese, Nugorese and Logudorese are just different orthographies of the same language, often used alongside others like LSC for one or more of the many dialects of Sardinian. The Sardinian Wikipedia already has rules and templates to use all of these orthographies, and the people that use the Campidanese one write there. The Campidanese incubator is populated by a single editor that does not even speak the language, and is creating hundreds of copy-pasted articles (with empty sections, few informations and many, many orthographic errors) to transform Sardinian into a "constellation of wikis". Before the arrival of that user, the incubator had exactly 0 articles for years. There is no need to have separate wikis for different orthographies, and that would instead just damage the sc.wiki project. L2212 (talk) 19:58, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Agree with L2212, the eligibility of Campidanese, a dialect of Sardinian should be consider to revoked, as well as Votic. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:37, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Requesting for the approval of Wali Wikipedia test project

Hello, We humbly request languages Committee to approve Wali Wikipedia test project. This test wiki has been active for past 6 months. We have translated all MediaWiki important messages on translatewiki. Hoping to hear from you. Meanwhile have a look at our statistics automated statistics recent changes Thank you so much. Zakaria Tunsung (talk) 06:12, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Support

We all wish to see this wiki approved. Thank you Zakaria Tunsung for this request. Umar Asiya (talk) 11:41, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

It has been about 3 months since the current state of sufficient activity has been maintained, so I think you need to show more whether the activity is continuous. I believe that if the current activity is continued, it can be approved. Thank you for your efforts. --Sotiale (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Madurese wikisource

I keep asking this multiple times. Do you mind to tell me what's the problem so we can adress to work on the hatching. it's been more three monts Agus Damanik (talk) 03:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Agus Damanik (talk) 10:58, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Why ping me? Anyway it looks like @Sotiale: proposed approval of mad.wikisource as per [1], you may instead ask that member on the approval process. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Just think that you are quite active responding. Sorry if i annoy you. Thank you for the mailing list. I don't know if it exist. Once again, sorry to ping you Agus Damanik (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

@Sotiale is there any thing that we need to improve, cause i see that tagalog wikisource is approved recently. Thank you Agus Damanik (talk) 05:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I started a discussion about approval because I thought your project met the requirements for approval at the time I initiated that thread. However, none of my colleagues responded. The only advice I can give you is to increase the number of pages from the current number and to keep active. I will send a reminder email to start the discussion again. --Sotiale (talk) 08:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

got it Agus Damanik (talk) 09:13, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Bengali Wikinews

Hello, I am an active editor of Bengali Wikinews. The Bengali Wikinews is a highly active test project, and I am requesting its approval. Mobashir - 🇧🇩 (talk) 05:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Very positive, but I would like to see activity next month(April). If activity is similar to the current one next month, I would like to start a discussion for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Request for Apporval of Minangkabau Wikibooks

Hello Language Committee, the Minangkabau Wikibooks project has been active for 6 months and the community would like the project to be approved. The request for the approval has been made here. Thanks Zhilal Darma (talk) 08:41, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

I am feeling very positive, but I need some time to review some factors, and I am busy right now. I plan to try to review it this weekend if possible. --Sotiale (talk) 08:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I understand, thanks for response. Zhilal Darma (talk) 10:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Discussions for approval have just begun. Good luck. --Sotiale (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Zhilal Darma, if I go on your Main Page, I don't see any links to the existing books. In this state the wiki is not really useful to readers, I think. Could you add a listing of existing books? --MF-W 12:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello @MF-Warburg @Sotiale, thanks for response. I have added the existing book list on the Minangkabau Wikibooks Main Page. Zhilal Darma (talk) 06:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Please translate all of the 'Most important messages' section on this page. This is very important as it is a prerequisite for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 15:25, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Sotiale, all of the 'Most important messages' sections on this page have been 100% translated. Thanks Zhilal Darma (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Great, thanks! -- MF-W 19:15, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Request for Approval of Betawi Wiktionary

Hello Language Committe, the Betawi Wiktionary project has been active for 5 months and the community would like the project to be approved. The request for the approval has been made here. Thank you from us Pitchrigi, Bangrapip, and me. NikolasKHF (talk) 11:02, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

It is positive. I plan to monitor the activity over the next month and then begin the process for approval. Thank you for your hard work. --Sotiale (talk) 15:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I understand, thank you very much for the response. NikolasKHF (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Ancient Greek is a “living”, “L2-speakers-only” language according to SIL

Respected Sirs and Madams,

Hi!

Last year, we discussed the admissibility of an Ancient Greek Wikipedia. Amir E. Aharoni sent an e-mail to SIL (the organization which manages both ISO 639 and Ethnologue, as you know), asking to clarify why they classify Ancient Greek both as an “historical language” and as a “living language” (I have not "unarchived" our 2024 conversation because it was very long; let me know if I should do otherwise; for those who might want to read it again, it was titled “Classical languages”).

Since I did not receive any news, I have also tried to write to SIL, asking some questions, and they confirmed that “‘historical’ language does not imply ‘extinct’”. They also provided me with this Ancient Greek language card: grc language status is “code 9” (“second language only”), while “extinct” would be represented by code 10.

Here is their definition of code 9:

"Second Language Only status. While there are many languages that are used as second languages by large populations of speakers, the phrase “Second language only” is used to identify a specific category made up of those languages which are used as second languages but have no L1 speakers and generally weak or secondary ethnic or identity associations. These may include languages of special use, such as languages of initiation, languages of interethnic communication, liturgical languages, as well as cants and jargons. Most often these languages are given a status of EGIDS 3 (Wider Communication) but are identified in this way as well because of the absence of L1 speakers."

On the one hand, it is true that no one speaks just Classical Greek and no “modern” language; on the other hand, SIL is a bit too hasty when it describes the contemporary use of Ancient Greek as just "religious". In fact, Classical Greek is also used by classicists as a vehicular language: Today, it is possible to find classes taught in Classical Greek (even online, e.g. this reading and commentary in Classical Greek of the Apology of Socrates); it is even possible to learn other languages through Classical Greek, such as Ancient Persian: this is particularly interesting, because it is difficult to find classes of Ancient Persian even in “modern” languages.

For these reasons – along with those I have already expressed in 2024 – I’d like to ask you to revise your restrictive policy towards Classical Greek, and to admit the theoretical possibility of an Ancient Greek Wikipedia (maintaining firm that it must meet also the other admissibility criteria, before final approval). Thank you very much for your attention! Anaxicrates (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)