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Minangkabau Wikibooks

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Request for a new language edition: Wikibooks Minangkabau

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submitted

verification

final decision

This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

• The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
• The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
• The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	min (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Minangkabau	Language name in English
Language name	Bahaso Minang(kabau) / Bahasa Minangkabau	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q13324 - item has currently the following values: English label: Minangkabau native label (P1705): bahaso Minangkabau instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language, language / Minangkabauic Wikimedia language code (P424): min writing system (P282): Latin script, Jawi number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 5,530,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	min.wikibooks.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikibuku	"Wikibooks" in your language
Project namespace	Wikibuku	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Rundiang Wikibuku	"Wikibooks talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	File:Wikibooks-logo-min-svg.svg	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Jakarta	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces	Portal, Diskusi Portal	For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

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Minangkabau people hails from West Sumatra, in the western edge of Indonesia. In its region of origin, the language has a number of dialects and sub-dialects. Before the arrival of European colonial rule, Minangkabau society was comprised of hundreds of sovereign localities called nagaris. Each nagaris have their distinct and unique dialect of Minangkabau language, particularly on the phonological level. Some of the major dialects are Pasaman, Pariaman, Padang, Payakumbuh, Agam-Tanah Datar, Pasisia, Solok, and Sawahlunto.While Minangkabau dialects and sub-dialects vary in lexical and phonological level, most Minangkabau people speaks and understands the two major dialects, Padang and Agam-Tanah Datar. The language was original written using the Jawi script, adapted from Arabic, but modern native speakers mostly writes the language in Latin script due to 19th century efforts of romanization, and a standardized official orthography was published in 1976.

Minangkabaus were particularly known for their tradition of merantau; immigrating from the hinterlands of West Sumatra. They were found all over the modern country of Indonesia but also to neighbouring countries like Malaysia and Singapore. Immigrating Minangkabaus developed their distinct version of Minang language, as were found in the western part of Riau, Southern Aceh, the northern part of Bengkulu and Jambi. In Aceh, the version is known as Aneuk Jamee; while in Malaysian state of Negeri Sembilan, it is known as Baso Nogori.

While Minangkabau people produces some of the most renowned authors in the modern literary of Indonesia, a writing tradition in Minangkabau itself is very scarce, as the language has slowly progressed into the situation of diglossia. Most Minangkabau people speaks the language, but writes in Malay and, after Indonesian independence, Indonesia. Tambo Alam Minangkabau, regarded as the most trusted source of Minangkabau tradition and customs, was written in a Malay prose. Generally, written sources in Minangkabau language are about customs, law, folklore, and recipes.

The Minangkabau Wikipedia was launched back on February 2013, one of a very few effort to spur the modern growth of a writing tradition in Minangkabau. Most of the contributors are based in Padang, the capital of West Sumatra, but significant number of them also came from Jakarta and other cities in Indonesia. The Minangkabau Wikipedia now has approximately 227,751 articles (per September 2024), with a growing community of editors. Not only Wikipedia, A Wiktionary in Minangkabau Minangkabau Wiktionary launched in 30 October 2019 help many students, Wikimedia projects contributors and more people in finding words and definitions in Minangkabau. Another Wikimedia project like Wikibooks is necessary for many authors to write in Minangkabau and archive some collections in free and open Minangkabau.

Supporters

1. Adhmi (talk) 10:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC) Support
2. Support Zhilal Darma (talk) 10:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
3. Syurida (talk) 18:55, 14 Oktober 2024 (UTC) Support
4. Support with notes Hadithfajri (talk) 11:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
5. Sathira15 (talk) 01:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC) Support
6. Support Wikibuku akan jadi tempat untuk penerjemahan naskah asli, tempat menuliskan bahasa minangkabau dan makin banyak tersedia bahasa Minang di ranah internet yang tidak bisa terfasilitasi oleh Wikipedia dan wikisource Harditaher (talk) 07:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
7. Support This I imagine will be the place for creative writing and repository of news articles in Minangkabau language, also recording local folk tales/local wisdom without printed references yet still valuable for cultural preservation of Minangkabau people. XoXo (talk) 09:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
8. Support Mery Nurfa Dilla (talk) 07:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
9. Support Sonjo 01 (talk) 11:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
10. Support I hope this can be a new platform for Minangkabau writers to write any text or books freely in Minangkabau, which Wikipedia one is “stricter” than Wikibooks. Ardzun (talk) 03:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

• Is it really "many authors" who would like to contribute in Minangkabau Wikibooks? How many? I'm hesitant to give support, since I can't give contribution because I can't write in Minangkabau (this problem already mentioned above). So, I would like to make sure that this Wikibook will run properly in the future, if the requests granted.
• I guess the reason of this request is because we want to create more free writings in Minangkabau that free from encyclopedic criteria (because lack of resource written in Minangkabau). Are there some example of writings that will be in this Wikibooks? Hadithfajri (talk) 10:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Hadithfajri Yes, this Wikibooks will be platform for Minang to write in different way than encyclopeadia. The aouthe here is quite wide, not a book author. anyone can contribute. Hope this will be a new beginning for more Minangkabau language on the internet. Thanks for your support Harditaher (talk) 04:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  Excuse me, but so far, you're the only contributor in the Incubator. Where is the other author in quite wide range you mentioned?

  In addition, the content that already in Incubator right now are more suitable to be in Wikisource rather than in Wikibooks. Maybe @XoXo can help to start write about Minangkabau folklore/local wisdom as he mentioned above.

  I hope this project is quickly got accepted. That's why I ask "is it already enough contributor to run this Wikibooks". But I apologize eleven with the head for I can't help much to contribute there, because I suffered severe diglossia, have no knowledge in Adat at all, and rarely go back to my hometown. Hadithfajri (talk) 10:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  If the problem on the contributor, we can solve it by promoting it and also doing the training. As we know, quite hard for the newbie (majority of Minangkabau Wikimedian) to write on the Incubator. So i thing we need to gather the support first and try to reach the supporter and other wikimedians to try for writing on it. Ardzun (talk) 03:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)