Abuse filter manager/vote

The following request for comments is closed. There is a clear community consensus for creating the group. —Thanks for the fish! ^{talk•contribs} 18:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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All members of the Wikimedia community who meet all of the following criteria are invited to vote on the abuse filter manager proposal:

Must have had a registered account for at least 3 months
150 edits on at least one project

The vote will run from 00:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC) to 23:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC), after which time a non-partisan review will be undertaken and the results enacted.

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Tutti i membri della comunità Wikimedia che soddisfano i seguenti requisiti sono invitati a votare la proposta per gli abuse filter manager:

Un'utenza registrata da almeno 3 mesi
150 modifiche su almeno un progetto

La votazione avrà luogo dalle 00:00 del 1º marzo 2020 (UTC) fino alle 23:59 del 31 marzo 2020 (UTC), dopodiché verrà presa una decisione imparziale e i risultati verranno messi in atto.

Polski:

W tym głosowaniu nad propozycją stworzenia grupy "zarządzający filtrami nadużyć" mogą brać udział wszyscy członkowie społeczności Wikimedia, którzy spełniają wszystkie poniżej podane kryteria:

Konto zarejestrowane od co najmniej 3 miesięcy
150 edycji w przynajmniej jednym projekcie

Głosowanie trwa od 00:00, 1 marca 2020 (UTC) do 23:59, 31 marca 2020 (UTC), po którym to czasie dokonany zostanie bezstronny przegląd głosów i ogłoszone wyniki.

Português do Brasil :

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Todos os membros da comunidade Wikimedia que atendem a todos os seguintes critérios são convidados a votar na proposta de criação do grupo gerenciador de filtros de abuso:

Deve ter uma conta registrada há pelo menos 3 meses
150 edições em pelo menos um projeto

A votação decorre de 00:00, 1 de março de 2020 (UTC) a 23:59, 31 de março de 2020 (UTC). Após esse período, uma revisão não-partidária será realizada e os resultados serão aprovados.

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สมาชิกทั้งหมดของชุมชนวิกิมีเดียที่มีคุณสมบัติดังต่อไปนี้ จะมีสิทธิ์ในการลงคะแนนให้กับข้อเสนอของผู้สมัครผู้ควบคุมตัวกรองการละเมิดแต่ละคน:

ต้องมีบัญชีและลงทะเบียนมาแล้วอย่างน้อย 3 เดือน
มีอย่างน้อย 150 การแก้ไขบนโครงการอย่างน้อยหนึ่งโครงการในวิกิมีเดีย

การลงคะแนนจะเริ่มขึ้นตั้งแต่เวลา 00:00 น. ของวันที่ 1 มีนาคม 2563 ถึงเวลา 23:59 น. ของวันที่ 31 มีนาคม 2563 (เวลาในเขตเวลามาตรฐานกรีนิช) หลังจากนั้นผู้นับคะแนนกลางจะเป็นผู้นับคะแนนและประกาศผล

Please place your vote at the bottom of the list.

Yes

Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 00:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —Sgd. Hasley 00:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 06:53, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support RhinosF1 (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Ahmad^talk 17:57, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. – Sk4mp ^talk 13:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support BEANS X3 (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Eduaddad (talk) 13:58, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Obviously, as one of the proposers. --Daimona Eaytoy (talk) 14:24, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —*Youngjin (talk) 20:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Znotch190711 (talk) 00:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --TriggerOne (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support But...the Abuse filter manager page should be more clear that this global group designation has no impact on local abuse filter creation and editing. It is only intended as a global maintenance role. The global maintenance part is included, but the local impact seems conspicuously absent upon first and even second readings. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 02:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Braunschweig: How do you recommend we edit the text of abuse filter manager? Huji (talk) 23:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Huji: See Discussion below. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 05:13, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Nehaoua (talk) 04:33, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Rzuwig^► 07:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support-- Sunny00217 -(talk) 10:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support--SCP-2000 16:05, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Minorax (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support We already have way more trusted groups, and this will help in a lot of cases. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:02, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Framawiki (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -M-Mustapha (talk) 10:14, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --janbery (talk) 16:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Rs chen 7754 05:43, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Linedwell ^[talk] 07:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —— Eric Liu_{（留言．百科用戶頁）} 08:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -—- Brown Chocolate (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -FASTILY 03:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --CentralTime301 (Discussion/Contributions) 16:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --JavaHurricane (talk) 06:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support DaSupremo (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Creffett (talk) 02:16, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Sakretsu (炸裂) 12:25, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Melos (talk) 13:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Balabinrm (talk) 01:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support But I also support the name change suggested below. /Julle (talk) 13:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 15:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support GMG ^talk 20:36, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support 🐈⚞ℛogueScholar⚟🗨₨Talk 16:53, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Dthomsen8 (talk) 01:13, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support With the suggested name below. To better reflect the 'maintaining' role of the group. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 16:45, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - clear use-case, will be useful for the technical users. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:57, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - for technical use, there are a limited number of people that specialize in this area - should never be used to control edits on a project without consensus first. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support as one of the proposers. Prefer for maintainer over manager. ~riley (talk) 02:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Leela52452 (talk) 09:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Bencemac (talk) 19:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Veracious (talk) 09:37, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --mikeu ^talk 01:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --MarieVirtuElle (talk) 21:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Hamish 21:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No

Oppose This sort of global group is too prone to misuse. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Since I didn't see a link to the RfC outside of the history of the proposal, it's here: Requests for comment/Creating abusefilter-manager global group. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Why is there a requirement to edit AF on closed wikis? Seems an unnecessary requirement, and stewards have generally said "closed is closed". — billinghurst sDrewth 10:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From above, "the Abuse filter manager page should be more clear that this global group designation has no impact on local abuse filter creation and editing. It is only intended as a global maintenance role. The global maintenance part is included, but the local impact seems conspicuously absent upon first and even second readings." It seems as though everyone participating in this discussion is already fully aware of abuse filter concepts and capabilities. Maybe the page just needs a short introduction to Abuse Filter concepts and who can edit filters by default, and/or links to AbuseFilter, Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Edit filter or similar introductory resources. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 05:13, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do like Dave Braunschweig's comment and propose that maybe the name of the group as Abuse filter maintainer may assist to reflect the role to take, as the group does not manage anything. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billinghurst (talk)
The idea about name change sounds good to me. We can continue the voting and if there is consensus on the creation of the group, rename it at that time. I don't want to move all the pages right now as it may cause confusion.
But aside from the name change, is there anything else that needs to be done to the proposal? Huji (talk) 13:03, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is basically just a rejigging/reactivation of Abuse filter editors right? — xaosflux ^Talk 15:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Huji: Courtesy ping, unanswered question above. ~riley (talk) 06:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification, ~riley!

@Xaosflux: correct. More specifically, this is to make sure than when the underlying AbuseFilter extension is modified, no filter on no WMF wiki becomes deactivate or dysfunctional. Huji (talk) 11:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: if the vote is successful, I might make 3 things on meta: a userbox saying the abuse filter manager right, a category about the abuse filter managers and even upload a file for the page. CT301 ^talk_{contributions} 01:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can we add oathauth-enable since this is very sensitive right? I know most of users who will get this right would be admin somewhere but why not? -- CptViraj (📧) 04:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This was definitely overlooked in the original proposal; I have added this change to the current proposal. I would agree that there is no issue in adding this right and encouraging the use of 2FA. Typically, proposals are not modified once voting has begun, however, I do not forsee this to be a cause for concern in era where cyber security is a priority. ~riley (talk) 03:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]