Wikimedia Forum/Archives/2021-09

Removing links and contacts in translated versions due to office action

I'm removing the website links and contact info for Wikimedians of Mainland China as per office action stated in zh:Special:diff/67716329. I managed to have done that to the source document.[1] However, I am unable to remove the deleted sections and infobox contents from the translated pages. Does anyone know why? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:56, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@OhanaUnited: I triggered the translation update for this page, is it better now? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Yes, thanks! OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 21:29, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: — xaosflux ^Talk 23:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January

Hello everyone,

We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.

Summary:

We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.

Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year

In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.

However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.

We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.

Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities

We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.

A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet

We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.

We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!

Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase

If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!

Feedback

• What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
• How would you like to use our new sandbox?
• What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
• What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?

Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

• Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
• Are ready to find compromises.
• Focus on inclusion and diversity.
• Have knowledge of community consultations.
• Have intercultural communication experience.
• Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
• Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030wikimedia.org with questions.

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This message may have been sent previously - please note that the deadline for candidate submissions was extended and candidacies are still being accepted until 14 September 2021. Xeno (WMF) 17:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Server switch

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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
• If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
• We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Talk to the Community Tech

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

• How we prioritize the wishes to be granted
• Why we decided to change the date from November 2021 to January 2022
• Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
• Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

• Join online
• Meeting ID: 898 2861 5390
• One tap mobile
  • +16465588656,,89828615390# US (New York)
  • +16699006833,,89828615390# US (San Jose)
• Dial by your location

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

free wikipedia

you now have to have a account for permission to edit Farsi wikipedia. https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%88%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%85%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86&action=edit&section=new&uselang=en&withJS=MediaWiki:EnglishAddSection.js Baratiiman (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

• Not sure what you want us to make of that link, though it does appear that fawiki has started enforcing registration requirements for actions to mainspace today via w:fa:Special:Abusefilter/history/235, enacted by one of their bureaucrats, @Yamaha5:. This is primarily a fawiki issue, but perhaps Yamaha5 can point to a community discussion that others that are interested can review? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
  • FWIW, another fawiki admin has disabled the blocking filter, however there is an open phab task (phab:T291018) to do this again via software. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Grants:Project/Rapid/Amuzujoe/Landscape photography

Dear Community Members,

I am announcing a rapid grant we submitted about educating potential editors on naming of pictures on commons so pictures don't get lost, and also educating people on how to upload pictures on commons using the phone and the laptop. We would be very grateful to have your feedback and endorsements about this project. Please see the proposal here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Amuzujoe/Landscape_photography

Kind regards, Amuzujoe (talk) 19:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

link from nonexistent pages to other language versions

for example, in https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/populous there is red link "populosus", when i open it, there is new article form, but no interwiki links. the "populosus" red link has

https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=populosus&action=edit&redlink=1

url and

{{etyl|la|en}} {{m|la|populosus||full of people, populous}}

code. if i search for "site:wiktionary.org populosus" in google i see there is french article for that. if i manually type https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/populosus in address bar, i see a page with search buttons, but there are no interwiki links. pressing the search buttons, i can find several articles, in english wiktionary, that link to the nonexistent "populosus". i think it would be good if there were interwiki links in the nonexistent page and in the new article form. --QDinar (talk) 19:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

I've occasionally wanted that feature when editing Wiktionary too. --Oerjan (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki links depend on a record to the page being on wikidata - it is never assumed that just because two content pages have the same title that they are about the same subject. For an example, assume you were going to create this page w:en:Lotta Herzog, while it does not exist on enwiki, it does on dewiki - but it is also possible two people can have the same name. On enwiki, we do provide a link to search other projects for the title. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Interwiki in Wiktionary main namespace is not provided by Wikidata, but by mw:Extension:Cognate.--GZWDer (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24

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This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:

• Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
• Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
• Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.

The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030wikimedia.org).

Xeno (WMF) (talk) 03:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

The questions for the candidates into Drafting Committee Movement_Charter

Into 2021-09-27 13:59 CEST (11:59 UTC) can you suggest the questions for the candidates into Drafting Committee Movement_Charter. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:11, 26 September 2021 (UTC) & ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 22:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

A elongation: The questions for the candidates into Drafting Committee Movement_Charter

Into 2021-09-29 13:59:59 CEST (11:59:59 UTC) can you suggest the questions for the candidates into Drafting Committee Movement Charter. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 17:46, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Grants:Project/Twi Wikimedians/Twi Wiki Translat-a-thon III

Dear Community Members,

I am announcing a rapid grant we submitted about educating and recruiting new editors and also improving content on Twi Wikipedia, and Wikimedia commons. We would be very grateful to have your feedback and endorsements about this project. Please see the proposal here: Grants:https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Twi_Wikimedians/Twi_Wiki_Translat-a-thon Jemima2019 (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

2022 Ombuds Commission nomination process now open!

Hi everyone! It's coming close to time for annual appointments of community members to serve on the Ombuds commission (OC). This commission works on all Wikimedia projects to investigate complaints about violations of the privacy policy, especially in use of CheckUser and Oversight tools, and to mediate between the complaining party and the individual whose work is being investigated. They may also assist the General Counsel, the Executive Director or the Board of Trustees in investigations of these issues. For more on their duties and roles, see Ombuds commission.

This is a call for community members interested in volunteering for appointment to this commission. Volunteers serving in this role should be experienced Wikimedians, active on any project, who have previously used the CheckUser/Oversight tools OR who have the technical ability to understand these tools and the willingness to learn them. They are expected to be able to engage neutrally in investigating these concerns and to know when to recuse when other roles and relationships may cause conflict.

Commissioners are required to sign the Access to NonPublic Information NDA and must be willing to comply with the appropriate Wikimedia Foundation board policies (such as the access to non-public information policy and the privacy policy). This is a position that requires a high degree of discretion and trust. Commissioners must also be over 18 years of age.

If you are interested in serving on this commission, please write me an email at kbrownwikimediaorg to detail your experience on the projects, your thoughts on the commission and what you hope to bring to the role. The commission consists of twelve members; all applications are appreciated and will be carefully considered. The deadline for applications is end of day on 31 December, 2021.

Please feel free to pass this invitation along to any users who you think may be qualified and interested. Thank you! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:06, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Select You the question statements for candidates of Drafting Committee Movement_Charter

Into 2021-10-04 11:59:59 UTC you can select question statements for the candidates of Drafting Committee Movement Charter. The count of question statements is 110. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 19:28, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Croptool is broken

CropTool on Wikimedia Commons gives the error message Curl error: SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired Is this a lasting problem? /Yvwv (talk) 20:14, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Yvwv:, You have a 2 ways:

• c:Commons_talk:CropTool#SSL_certificate_problem_error_message SSL certificate problem error message SSL certificate problem error message
• phabricator.wikimedia.org.

✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Yvwv: See https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/BULX5O3EL4TN5BKHQFAG5TTMEEZLXLOY/. Some tools might need some updating to recognize the newly issued SSL certificates to work again. Regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: He sent me a picture, and according to an error, it's an error in the backend. The backend download something from somewhere. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 23:13, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

• @Yvwv: CropTool is an volunteer managed tool, the maintainer asks that you report errors in that tool here. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
  • See also wikitech:Tool:CropTool — xaosflux ^Talk 01:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)