User talk:Jalexander-WMF/Archive 5

Access to nonpublic information policy

Back in April you told the community and the ED [1] that the goal is for the 3 month time to start (with the announcements) before I go to vacation in mid may. That does not seem to have happened. Please make a statement at Talk:Access to nonpublic information policy. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 15:23, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Rogol Domedonfors: Response made Jalexander--WMF 19:37, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for following up on those two items. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 21:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Request

Please remove bureaucrat and administrator flag from former WMF staff wmf:User:Erik Moeller (WMF) and wmf:User:Jorm, in case their account be compromised or misused. Thanks.--GZWDer (talk) 09:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

By the way, please delete wmf:Template:! (And probably Template:! in other private wikis), see Foundation wiki feedback#Regarding Template:!). Thanks.--GZWDer (talk) 12:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Both done, the accounts can't actually log in (the way the block settings work on private wikis) but agree rights should be removed in general anyway :). Jalexander--WMF 22:28, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

FYI: wgBlockDisablesLogin is not enabled in foundationwiki ([2] and phab:T46473), so if their account be hacked, hackers could unblock these accounts and then vandalize foundationwiki.--GZWDer (talk) 05:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Hmmmm thank you I appreciate that, I disagree with the reasoning in that ticket but since it isn't just my decision will touch base with those involved :) Jalexander--WMF 05:24, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Francis Kaswahili

Is this user banned under WMF Global Ban Policy? If yes, please update WMF Global Ban Policy/List.--GZWDer (talk) 07:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@GZWDer: Sorry for the delay responding here, this got caught in my edit box and didn't save. Sadly WMF Office Actions are always unique and no single policy encompasses all actions we could do since we always take an action we believe is necessary for the safety of the projects and the readers and editors using them. While we created the Global Ban Policy to be an overarching for umbrella for a bunch of, different, permanent type bans this does not (at least at the moment) fall under that. That’s why, for example, it was done from my personal account (and not WMFOffice), mentions an avenue for appeal and was not placed on that list. At this point it doesn’t belong there.

I will say that we sent the Stewards a bit more information so that they had a sense of why we took the action we did but unfortunately we’re not able to do so more publicly at this point.Jalexander--WMF 19:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

• Re: Appeal against my account deletion

That my name is Francis Kaswahili join as a Wikimedia user since 2012 That on 23rd of July 2015 the following another known as Jalexander--WMF deleted the said account without any notice nor informing me about that action, That the banning procedure require consensus with user That the action taken against me was unfair because I don’t think that misunderstanding can cause a deletion or banning users. I might say sorry for delaying of implementing of project because the one also known as National wiki project/tz deleted was deleted by a user known as Phillipe. That Tanzania is among of African country where there is no users even to establish this project is just to harmonize our people to become users. That am not foolish man who can use his resources to promote Wikimedia in the country and to do vandalism, That I can understand if the reason is postponed of dates to our conferences which was been changed for several times. It’s my humble submission that the action taken was false and must be null and void for benefit of the user for interest of promoting Wikimedia which is main objectives WMF, Instead banning users as it has done to me. Hopping that you will consider on my appeal. Francis Kaswahili 17:40, 03 August 2015 (UTC)

Sundgauvien38 Notice of upload removal

Hello Jalexander-WMF

Sorry for the mess.

I put it in my sandbox, waiting to have time to amend it in order to no more be against the copyright, but looks this will not happen before a while. I realize now it was not the best way to go.

Please remove the content from the history.

Hope this has not created a big trouble on your side.

One more time sorry. --Sundgauvien38 (talk) 09:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

email

Hmm

@GVarnum-WMF: there is something slightly amusing about your putting automated messages on the talk page of the Trust and Safety Manager to remind him to sign his confidentiality agreement and to tell him that he will lose his access to nonpublic information if he is late. ;) --Pine^✉ 07:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

He is supervising the process to collect the signatures, so receives this message (along with myself) to verify that they are going out. It is pretty common to add test recipients to MassMessage recipient lists, and the one we are using for the above message follows that practice. --GVarnum-WMF (talk) 07:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

@GVarnum-WMF: I figured as much. Still, I found it rather amusing. --Pine^✉ 19:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

What future IdeaLab campaigns would you like to see?

Hi there,

I’m Jethro, and I’m seeking your help in deciding topics for new IdeaLab campaigns that could be run starting next year. These campaigns aim to bring in proposals and solutions from communities that address a need or problem in Wikimedia projects. I'm interested in hearing your preferences and ideas for campaign topics!

Here’s how to participate:

• Learn more about this consultation
• Vote on and submit new campaign topics in the AllOurIdeas Survey
• Discuss campaign topics and ask questions on the IdeaLab talk page

Take care,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 03:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Working Wikimedian's barnstar

Working Wikimedian's barnstar

For the guy who works while he could be on vacation. --Pine^✉ 04:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Email

--Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 17:02, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey what's up dude

Ashley Zarate (talk) 01:34, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Centralnotice-template-wm2016scholarcfp

Could you update scholarship central notice for Malayalam Language. CNBanner:Wm2016scholarcfp-text1/ml had serious grammatical error. Regards--Praveen:talk 13:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

@Praveenp: Done, thanks for the help. Jalexander--WMF 21:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

WMF global ban appeals

Does this page describe a valid process? The page was created by an account which was registered yesterday, and the account only has seven global edits. I haven't heard anything about this anywhere else. It also says that the page is a "proposed Wikimedia document" which looks fishy. The user who created the page mentioned the page on Talk:WMF Global Ban Policy, which is how I discovered the page. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

@Stefan2: It does not, the user who created it is a WMF Banned user himself and I've deleted the page in question (as well as reverted his changes to the template that banned users on meta). Thanks for the ping. Jalexander--WMF 01:40, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Signing the confidentiality agreement

Hello. I am Penn Station, an administrator on jawiki. I had not noticed the notice message about signing the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information until cu/os rights are removed today [3]. I have just signed it on Phabricator (Japanese General Confidentiality Agreement page). I am so sorry for my late action, but is it still possible to withdraw the request for removing the rights? I hope I will still keep the rights, especially cu right which is necessary to check sockpuppets. Thank you. --Penn Station (talk) 07:44, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

@Penn Station: Thanks for the signing, it's totally possible to get the rights back at this point :). I will submit a request for that immediately. Jalexander--WMF 08:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I have just confirmed that now I had the rights again. I appreciate it. By the way, my user name on Access to nonpublic information policy/Noticeboard page is slightly wrong - my user name is "Penn Station", not "Penn station" ('S' is capital letter). This makes the name red link. Could you correct the name on the page, please? --Penn Station (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Done :) Jalexander--WMF 09:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, again. :) --Penn Station (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Confidentiality agreement

Hello. I was so busy recently. I have signed the both agreements. I ask you please not to remove my rights.--Avocato (talk) 22:40, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Avocato: Thanks! I just checked, it looks all set, I'll ensure it's copied over to the noticeboard as soon as possible and ask the stewards to cancel that. Jalexander--WMF 22:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Mail

—MarcoAurelio 14:22, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Did you received it? —MarcoAurelio 14:09, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't actually think I did :-/ I've been looking for a while and thought I had made a comment here. Can you resend? Jalexander--WMF 00:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Confidentiality agreement

Hi. I signed confidentiality agreement. Can I get my checkuser rights for tr.wikipedia?

Thank you. Best regards. --Sadrettin (talk) 21:09, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Done earlier Jalexander--WMF 08:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Confidentiality agreement

Good to see you. I just know that CU tool was removed. I cannot access to internet during 2 months for long business trip and hard workload in real life. Although I'm so late, I signed confidentiality agreement. So can I re-get CU tool on kowiki? or I should pass re-election and any other verification? Regards, Sotiale (talk) 13:12, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Sotiale:, you certainly don't need to go through a re-election after signing but I will need you to do a couple steps to verify your Phabricator account. I've sent you an email with some instructions to help, let me know if you have any issues or if you've done it (either by email or here) and I'll verify you! Jalexander--WMF 09:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I did it and sent you email. Thank you for your favor. --Sotiale (talk) 07:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Sotiale: Thanks, it looks like your email got lost in my box. I have added you to the verified list and will re-request your rights back now. Jalexander--WMF 07:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Future IdeaLab Campaigns results

Last December, I invited you to help determine future ideaLab campaigns by submitting and voting on different possible topics. I'm happy to announce the results of your participation, and encourage you to review them and our next steps for implementing those campaigns this year. Thank you to everyone who volunteered time to participate and submit ideas.

With great thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 23:55, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

SRP

Hi, this request is waiting for your reply :-) Regards, —MarcoAurelio 14:08, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Strategy community consultation banners

Hi James, when you klick the banner in de.wp or any other projects you come to 2016 Strategy/Community consultation. This is annoyning and unnecessary, since there are a lot of translations. Isn't it possible to link to Strategie 2016/Befragung der Community instead for de.wp and respective links for other projects? Alice Wiegand (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Lyzzy: right now we're attempting to auto detect language by passing it through Special:MyLanguage but that will only work if the user is logged in and has German set as their language on Meta. I assume you have English? I know that many/most haven't changed the defaults and still get English which is frustrating :-/ I'll think of some options for this afternoon after my morning meetings. The issue is that without sending it through Special:MyLanguage it becomes a very manual process of updating ( the translate extension has no good way to send someone only to a page that exists and so we'd have to manually keep the banner up to date on what 'should' be updated). We should be able to come up with 'something' though if the current process isn't working. Jalexander--WMF 15:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

That's the missing piece, thanks for the explanation, James. Alice Wiegand (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

access to nonpublic info board

I've signed the agreement - could you add me to the board? Thanks! :-) KrakatoaKatie 17:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Adminship on wikimediafoundation.org

Hi. Can you please restore my adminship on wikimediafoundation.org? It's needed for maintenance. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:34, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Might you respond?

Just letting you know that my question was posed to you a couple of days ago. Thank you! - Thekohser (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

@Thekohser: Thanks for the pointer! Apologies for the delay, it's been a bit hectic and I want to ensure that I give you a complete answer. I do, however, intend to respond :) Jalexander--WMF 04:28, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

It's very pleasing to know that you intend to respond, James. Thank you. - Thekohser (talk) 15:55, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

It has been nearly a month now since you said that you intend to respond. Is that still the case? Also, I wonder if you can comment on why a Wikimedia Foundation policy was deliberately written in British English? - Thekohser (talk) 11:42, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Would you please provide an update regarding your plan to respond to the question about the Event Ban policy? - Thekohser (talk) 00:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for the (continued) delay, some issues propped up that had to be higher priority but I have not forgotten about you and do still plan to respond. I don't want to make an explicit promise but hope to do so as soon as possible to get it off my plate (perhaps early next week or even this weekend). Jalexander--WMF 03:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

@Jalexander-WMF: It's been another couple of weeks. Any chance that we might see a response soon? - Thekohser (talk) 15:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

@Jalexander-WMF: Surely by now, you have had enough free time in your schedule to formulate a response (which you intended to do back in late March, nearly 6 months ago. Wikimedia Foundation staff members are paid to fulfill the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation, correct? - Thekohser (talk) 03:49, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Possible sock of WayneRay

Hi James. Can you take a look at w:File:Cotton1943 cropped.jpg, uploaded by User:Athrash, and compare it with File:ScoutsYorkminster.jpg, uploaded by WayneRay? Same source and identical dubious "granted PD" claim in the permission field. The attributed author is "C. Ray" which matches this image: File:KoreachildrenWPC.jpg, where Wayne Ray states he is the heir of "Claxton Ray". I haven't found any files uploaded from this source (there are 600+ on Commons) by anybody but WayneRay and Athrash. I also can't find any link to the source by Google search, so how did Athrash get a hold of an image from it? User:Athrash has been active on en.wikibooks as recently as January 27, 2016, so the account is open to a checkuser for a while. Could be nothing, but seems pretty suspect to me. INeverCry 05:13, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks @INeverCry: We'll take a look. Jalexander--WMF 06:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Former staff template and account lock

Should User:LilaTretikov (WMF) have a "former staff" template? I am also guessing that the account should be locked. --Pine^✉ 06:35, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

I was looking at the Katherine transition date of March 14, which I now see is different than the Lila departure date of March 31. So please disregard for the time being. --Pine^✉ 06:38, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants

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Note

Hi James. Please note that I've:

• (change visibility) 07:46, 19 April 2016 MarcoAurelio (talk | contribs | block) changed global group membership for User:YWelinder (WMF) from staff to (none) (locked account, no longer with WMF, hence staff rights not needed)

per:

• (change visibility) 17:36, 14 April 2016 JGulingan (WMF) (talk | contribs | block) changed status for global account "User:YWelinder (WMF)@global": set locked; unset (none) (No longer with WMF).

I don't think a locked account requires staff global rights and tend to think you forgot to ask for removal ;-) Please advice. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio 07:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio:, Thanks Marco, I tend to do the locked account rights removal in bulk every once in a while but totally happy for you to do them whenever you see :). Jalexander--WMF 03:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Mass messages

I don't want to receive from now in the future mass messages on my discussion pages, so please don't include my user in any future mass messages list, thanks. --Gce (talk) 22:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• I don't want to receive any mass messages on my discussion page either. --RenéV (talk) 09:06, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
• (talk page stalker) @Gce: @RenéV: for the page you are getting messages on, that you do not want any mass-messages sent to, add that page to local value of this message: MediaWiki:Massmessage-optout-category. For example, here on meta you would add Category:Opted-out of message delivery to your talk page. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:51, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi WMF

can you update Access to nonpublic information policy/Noticeboard I was assign but I don't see. Thank you WMF Murbaut (talk) 10:12, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@Murbaut: Thanks for the ping! We do them in batches, you're on the list now! Jalexander--WMF 06:39, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome :) Murbaut (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

On my accidental signature

Hey there. My gravest apologies about signing the Confidentiality agreement accidentally while being one year too young. I'm just asking about whether this has permanently affected my account, or me, or my ability to sign again in the future. This was truly a good faith error - I'd really be disappointed if my account is scarred for all time because of this. Many thanks. --NottNott (talk) 18:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Global-gather-admins

Hi James. Since phab:T128568 has been resolved I think these users should be removed from the global-gather-admins user group, and only after that, Special:GlobalGroupPermissions/global-gather-admins be deleted. Also, if such accounts were to be used only for Gather things, I think that they need to be deactivated by WMF Office IT personel. Please advice at least on the user-rights part, since deleting the global group without first removing the users holding the rights causes a nasty bug that requires sysadmin help to resolve it. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 17:54, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Ping :) —MarcoAurelio 21:29, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: Yup, that makes sense to me, none of them are only for gather (they are regular staff) so the accounts should remain but no more use for the group. Want to go ahead and do it or should I ping folks on IRC? Thanks for the ping! Jalexander--WMF 21:51, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

I'll handle this. Thanks! —MarcoAurelio 21:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Done. Please also advice on Jon (WMF)'s continuance in the global-editinterface right since and if I remember correctly, sysadmin permissions already let the user edit users and wiki interfaces. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio 22:10, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

So apparently

...you're the almighty for granting me permanent admin rights on meta. :D Consider this a kind request for "ma pomme", ie. me. Thanks! Delphine (WMF) (talk) 21:23, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

@Delphine (WMF): Thanks for reaching out! They're right that that we handle all rights for staff accounts internally so that we have a record of who has what, why etc. You can find the policy on OfficeWiki but in general you need to shoot an email to ca@wikimedia.org with the reason for the right and copy in your manager for approval. After that Mdennis (WMF) (talk · contribs), myself or another member of the team will take care of you! We generally aim for within 2 business days but if you need it sooner let us know and we'll make sure it happens :). Jalexander--WMF 08:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

James it's done. Let the almighty do their thing. Delphine (WMF) (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Sir! <3 Delphine (WMF) (talk) 20:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Redundancy on user groups

Hi James. I hope that you are doing well. I am writting to inquire about your opinion on a matter of your competence. With the creation of the wmf-supportsafety local group, some users kept their former rights that they are now bundled in the new group (such as massmessage and rename rights). Would you object to a cleanup on duplicate rights on such users? Here's a list, with duplicate rights in bold:

• HaithamS (WMF) (talk | contribs | block)‏‎ (autopatroller, MassMessage sender, translation administrator, WMF Support and Safety) (Created on 17 April 2012 at 04:13)
• Jalexander-WMF (talk | contribs | block)‏‎ (autopatroller, global renamer, translation administrator, WMF Support and Safety) (Created on 17 August 2010 at 05:13)
• Mdennis (WMF) (talk | contribs | block)‏‎ (MassMessage sender, translation administrator, WMF Support and Safety) (Created on 21 May 2011 at 18:02)
• PEarley (WMF) (talk | contribs | block)‏‎ (autopatroller, MassMessage sender, translation administrator, WMF Support and Safety) (Created on 20 June 2013 at 14:46)

Best regards, —MarcoAurelio 10:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

MarcoAurelio (talk · contribs) Thanks for the ping Marco, I'm happy with all of those removals, for HaithamS you can actually remove all of his rights (including +staff). He no longer needs them at this point. Jalexander--WMF 21:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

It's all done. Will let WMF Office IT to lock HaithamS' account (in case it's no longer required). —MarcoAurelio 18:04, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Another request for rights

Hi James. Maybe you want to comment on Meta:Requests_for_translation_adminship/CKoerner_(WMF) too? I'm however waiting for CK to reply as he has read and understood the docs. Regards, —MarcoAurelio 11:40, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Appointed central notice administrators

Hello James. Browsing the list of users with centralnotice admin rights which were appointed by the Foundation I see some who have not editted for years (such as Zack). I wonder if you could remove the users no longer needing those and other rights. Thank you, —MarcoAurelio 20:13, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Marco, I do that moderately frequently and as of my last check fundraising wanted them all to still have it (including Zack) for one reason or another. I'll do another loop through with them to see if that's still the case. Jalexander--WMF 03:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Researcher user group

Hi. Re: <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard&oldid=741267008#Seemingly_inactive_accounts_in_researcher_user_group>, who's in charge of the researcher group? Me? --MZMcBride (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information

Hi I have signed the Confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information on the 24th of October,When will the list be updated thank you FITINDIA (talk) 11:31, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

If you need help handling the backlog, I can volunteer if you give me the instructions, James. Regards, —MarcoAurelio 12:33, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Please see Jimbo Page

Something of interest to you.[4]. Greetings!31.131.249.219 21:01, 22 November 2016 (UTC) and [5].95.213.193.52 23:56, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Pages in the WMF website, and their translations

Hi! Please see wmf:User_talk:Jalexander#Links_to_Meta_for_translated_versions. Maybe another person is currently responsible for this issue? Please redirect me to him/her. --Kaganer (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail

~ Nahid ^Talk 16:50, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail

--31.223.128.59 15:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

A message on the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia

Hi, James. I think you've missed this message on the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia. – Srdjan m (talk) 03:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

This is ridiculous motion. (Da se nije Kolega kačio sa nekima sada bi još uvek uživao u svojim zavitlavanjima na Vikipediji. A ovako može samo da se dosađuje!)79.101.163.42 13:35, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

James, consider Office Action in removing "Janevistan" [6] on grounds of serious BLP violation of rules and insults to Macedonian state and Macedonian people (Statute violations)! This is clearly case for Office Action, even more than the case of the user Kolega2357, who made minor problems with his bot but actively contributed in the "Janevistan"!178.222.82.95 00:04, 23 February 2017 (UTC) Allegedly according to "Janevistan" all Macedonians are just copies of one man: Igor Janev. Real Humor.

P.S. If there is no Office Action of deleting admin. protected and search visible "Janevistan" (BLP) crap (apparent misuse of internet/Wikipedia for personal and political harassment, blatantly violating all basic rules of Wiki. Terms of Use), anyone can only conclude that Wikipedia is just an arena for personal offenses, propaganda, censorship and completely arbitrary behavior and lawlessness without sanctions(and particularly for misusing internet for insults/abuses and autocratic caprice by their editors or admins). 178.222.82.95 13:53, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

NEW REQUEST FOR DELETION: https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korisnik:Orijentolog/Janevistan.93.87.185.74 01:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Repeated requests for help prevent bullying and harassment were ignored by you leading to the loss of a high output and dedicated editor

Greetings Jalexander, I have asked you repeatedly for help via email only to be ignored. Now, instead of asking for help again, I have decided to post a message here stating that I have, over the last 3 years been targeted for harassment and bullying on the WMF projects both on and off wiki, by a few admins and editors. Instead of responding to my emails however, you chose to ignore it and I am certain that you will delete this comment as trolling, or vandalism or whatever other BS excuse people use these days on the projects to minimize criticism, hide from the problems and pretend life on the WMF sites is great and perfect and happy...it isn't, not for the editors who get bullied everyday. It's pretty obvious to me you never took my requests seriously and the fact that you never bothered to ask any questions, ask for proof or even reply to my emails shows your lack empathy towards the editing community and the success of the projects. Shame on you.

After repeated attempts to edit multiple sites only to be harassed by the same dozen members of the community who continually troll and bully me both on and off wiki and often in front of Admins and functionaries who allow it, I have decided to stop editing. The reason they did this is clear and obvious and also somewhat ironic. They did this because of my outspokenness that admins should have to follow the same rules they enforce. For that, I was targeted and eventually driven from the WMF projects. They did this because they are not held to the standards the WMF has established nor it's policies. They did this because there is no oversight on the WMF projects of admin and functionary conduct and they have done this, more importantly, because you Jalexander at the WMF, have allowed them to do it without lifting a finger or taking any action to stop them.

After fighting the abuse for years and after doing more than one million edits globally to improve the WMF projects (something very few have done I would add); creating and running a collaboration of the month, a newsletter, over 100 WikiProjects, creating hundreds of articles, getting dozens to GA or Featured status, creating documentation pages and scripts that continue to be used to this day and on and on. Frankly, it's impossible to measure the amount of work I have done on the WMF projects but I estimate it's into thousands of hours at this point over the last 10+ years....only to be bullied out by admins because you and your peers at the WMF refuse to provide oversight to prevent them from violating rules and often right in the open. It's disgraceful frankly. Especially since you have the ability to intervene and not only chose not too, but you didn't even acknowledge the email(s).

As a long term editor and often a critic of ongoing admin abuse, the corruption of the Arbcom and the failures of the WMF I should have expected this day would come. It's ironic really that I was bullied out by the same people I criticized for abusive conduct. Perhaps I was naïve to think that the WMF cared or wanted passionate and dedicated high output editors instead of bullies, trolls and abusive admins like HighinBC and Floquenbeam from EnWP or those like Az1568/AlexZ or Rjd0060/RD here in Meta.

At the end of the day though and as shocking as this revelation is going to come to some members of the community, these projects are about building content for the readers and users of the site, not bullying editors to feed the ego's of the admins and show the community they are second class citizens under the control of the admin class. So call it vanity, but when a million+ edit contributor leaves because a couple admin that together do less than 100 edits a week bullies them out, due to the lack of oversight, that isn't the individuals fault, it's yours J. So cheers for having the ability to act but not the desire and I sincerely hope someday you all at the WMF will come to the realization that bullies and trolls like those I mentioned above are a menace to these projects. It's the editors, collaborating and building content that keeps these sites generating revenue and readers and those admins you enable and protect are the ones driving those editors away and making the projects worse in the process. Reguyla 138.163.106.72 21:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jalexander-WMF: Since you haven't commented about this I wanted to inquire as to what your feelings are about high output editors who are dedicated to the projects being bullied out by admins and low output editors who have shown patterns of abuse. Call me naive, but I would think the WMF would be interested in keeping editors who are building and improving content and would wish to support cleaning bullies and policy violating admins out of the projects rather than let admins bully editors into leaving the projects in frustration. But what do I know, I am only a 10 year veteran editor with over 1 million edits to the projects globally! Reguyla 2601:5CC:101:2EF2:9830:E808:2F98:159F 02:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Regyula, I'm sorry I didn't respond to your emails about this earlier but I do want to let you know that I've read them. Any complaints about harassment are seriously investigated no matter who brings them and at this point there does not seem to be evidence of harassment that is actionable on our side. Jalexander--WMF 00:36, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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Really I can tell, just by the shortness of your reply that you didn't read it and don't care. So ok, let's see, maybe we just disagree on evidence, so here is some for everyone too see that has affected me personally. It should be noted that many of these also happen to many other users on the Wikimedia projects ona daily basis with no action by the WMF to stop it.

• Policy violations and manipulations by admins and others to bully me out of Wikipedia. I can provide links if you want.
• An admin/Arbitrator advocating that someone in the community out me to my employer and attempt to get me fired
• Repeated on and offwiki trolling and bullying including here on meta that was not only witnessed but mentioned by functionaries who did nothing to stop it (except block me, the victim).
• A functionary, AlexZ who asked their friends on Wikia to block me on their IRC and discord channels because he is an egotistical and power hungry admin who didn't have the ability to block me there.
• Current and ongoing off wiki canvassing to get me blocked in things, several of which I don't even participate in.

But that's fine. I know that you and the WMF don't care about editors or the community or you would do something about it. Instead, you watch as admins and functionaries bully editors, threaten them, tell them to F off or F you or get the F off my talk page or worse with no action. If that is the kind of project you want to oversee then it's no wonder why editing is down, editors are not joining or staying and the overall attitude in the projects is that of a hostile work environment. Editors are treated like a disposable commodity. Shame on you, that attitude is disgusting. 2601:5CC:101:2EF2:9830:E808:2F98:159F 02:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

So I guess, based on your lack of reply Jalexander-WMF that you aren't going to take my accusations of bullying seriously. Not that I expected you too since there is no incentive nor political motivation for you to do so. But, if you were even remotely competent at your position or had any respect for the sites policies or the community, you would have asked me for proof, links, you would have emailed me, made some attempt to start a dialogue and generally found some way to work through this. Instead however, you seem content to do the same old chickenshit tactics that don't work to do anything other than unnecessarily inflame the situation and just ignore me in the hopes that after 4 YEARS of fighting to be unbanned and fighting bullies I will just go away. Sadly I may do just that eventually, but not because I do not care about the project or about the community, but because of incompetent people like you in positions of power who will allow your friends and fellow admins to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, with no oversight by the WMF whatsoever. If you cannot find the time at all to discuss this with me more than a sentence where you clearly are lying saying you read the emails I sent you, then you really don't have any respect for the position you hold. Because to be honest here, for the Manager of Trust & Safety at the Wikimedia foundation, you are doing a pretty lousy job of doing anything other than showing the community that you don't care about them, the project or policy as long as you and your friends can do what you want. If you want me to stop fighting my bullshit ban that was implemented by bullies and policy violators then lift it, it is in your power to do that. Oh and while your at it, you could ask your friends over at Wikia to unban me on their IRC and discord channels that AlexZ asked his friends to do so that he could continue bullying me there to show that he has the power and influence to do that. Because you and your peers have failed to provide any oversight to the admins and functionaries on the Wikimedia projects they have become a breeding ground for bullies. I hate bullies and I will fight tooth and nail to stop them on the projects I care about improving. So if you want to give me a WMF ban for trying to improve the Wikimedia projects for the last ten years when you can easily stop all the disruption by removing a ban that should never have been allowed in the first place, then so be it. You will only be showing me I am right. Reguyla 2601:5CC:101:2EF2:C8A0:FBF0:596A:DADD 03:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Phabricator

Hi. Left you a Conpherence message over there. Regards, —MarcoAurelio 18:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

James, just a kindly reminder that the thread over there is still awaiting an action from your part, and that it's important. Thank you :-) —MarcoAurelio 07:32, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Done Jalexander--WMF 07:57, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 08:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

You'd be better off dropping a note on his English Wikipedia page. He isn't very good about responding to comments here on Meta based on his contribution history. He'll get around to checking here about the middle of March. 138.163.106.72 20:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

That's not completely true, if you want to leave me a message on wiki my meta talk page is definitely the best of my (100s) of talk pages. English Wikipedia will be seen much later :). The problem that arises is that I sometimes get dozens of onwiki pings or IRC messages and 100s of emails a day which means that they can sometimes get buried or take a while to respond to especially if it will require a fair bit of my attention. Sometimes it can be hard to notice that I've actually responded as well since I'll respond to folks elsewhere (for example on IRC, by email or on another wiki page). In general the easiest/fastest way to get ahold of me is via IRC or email because I'll see it a bit easier. (Marco: Will check it out :) ) Jalexander--WMF 23:14, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

"Not completely true"? So does that mean I am 1% right or 99% right? And as someone who has sent you emails, which you acknowledge reading above but didn't respond too, maybe if you took your job seriously and responded occassionaly some of that email traffic would be reduced. When you don't respond, at all, it shows a lack of respect for the community and for the seriousness of the problems being sent to you. It shows that you do not take their concerns, including mine, seriously. It is exactly that sort of complacency that has caused me and countless other editors to have to endure constant bullying and harassment on the WMF sites because you cannot be bothered to even respond. And you want people to donate to the WMF projects to keep your positions funded? Please! Maybe if you all started actually doing your jobs I and a lot of others would still be editing a some of the problematic admins who have shown longterm patterns of abuse would be out of the project instead of the editors like me who are actually building it. And yes, as you can see I am rather pissed about the constant abuse I and others have had to endure. I can't even respond to you with my username because I am banned on meta. And for what you ask, for trying to have a discussion about getting unbanned on IRC, which occurred because I refuse to stop fighting a ban on Wikipedia THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED AND VIOLATES POLICY! Not that you care, you get paid to ignore these kinds of problems. But hey we all know that the WMF is powerless to do anything about editors being abused because it doesn't involve screwing the community over with thins like VisualEditor, Flow, Superprotect or enabling and justifying poor conduct of admins. Everyone knows if you wanted you could unban me just as easy as you could ban me. You could do something about the problematic admins I mentioned above and you could do something about the problematic and abusive admin conduct. But you won't, because you don't care and to do something would require you and others to do something other than just collect a check. Reguyla 2601:5CC:101:2EF2:7989:FF69:962B:CE8C 03:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Reguyla, you said it all! One should mention also user Future Perfect at Sunrise constantly harassing others at eng.Wiki. and nothing happens. Best Regards from your colleague soldier (army officer). 178.222.82.95 11:38, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I could list quite a few admins and editors as well that the WMF should be reviewing...including some functionaries and Arbitrators. But unfortunately, aside from the smoke they are blowing, they really don't care. As long as donors are dumb enough to keep throwing money at them, they'll keep spending it on pet projects while ignoring the real problems that the projects would genuinely benefit from. 2601:5CC:101:5DEB:311E:45B3:5286:768D 01:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Again, I agree with you. But one cannot expect much from Wikipedia and their illiterate, stupid and careless editors. Wikipedia is not reference institution anywhere. It is irrelevant. Most of editors never been in state service (civil servants, Army, Police etc.) or have any public responsibility. They are not judges or lawyers or even have any proper education to make a simple decisions. As I see it, they are mostly students plagiarizing their home works, and the head of all them encyclopedic "librarians" is a "Chief Librarian" Jimbo Wales who could not even finished his Doctoral theses. No one takes Wikipedia seriously. Neither should you. 178.222.82.95 03:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know you, but from the arguments you presented here I would definitely unban you and let you continue editing. (But I am powerless on Wikipedia and precisely nobody here) 178.222.82.95 04:04, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you and in honesty I think most reasonable people would unban me but unfortunately we are not dealing with reasonable people here. Many of the people who are in trusted positions aren't trustworthy, many have shown patterns of abuse and nothing has been done to any of them because there is no oversight, weak leadership and incompetent employees at the WMF in the positions to do the task of oversight. It doesn't take a math wiz to see that someone who has over 1 million edits on the WMF projects with more than 10 years of editing and an obvious passion for the projects isn't a disruption unless they are not interested in building an encyclopedia. Unfortunately, some bad individuals have gotten themselves into positions of power and have found that even gross violations of policy will be not only tolerated but enabled and supported. Now, there are actually people in the projects who are stupid enough to believe the hyperbole about me being a disruption when any idiot with half a brain can see I am trying to improve the projects including building an encyclopedia in spite of constant harassment, bullying, POV pushers, trolls and incompetent leadership failing to address those problems. When people like me fight back being bullied it doesn't mean we are a disruption, it means we aren't going to be bullied and fighting bullies should not be used as justification or proof that we are a disruption. I fought a ban that never should have been allowed and violated policy multiple ways. That doesn't make me a disruption, it means I stand up for the ideals of the project and the community against bullies. We all see the reward I got for that! 138.163.106.72 15:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I will not give any more comments here. But it seems that all this is not only about weak leadership and incompetent employees at the WMF. Mr. James (LLB) got direct instruction from Jimbo Wales not to make precedents! So one should blame Jimmy Wales who in his life never worked in any serious company or was employed by public institution (never served army, etc.). So James is now in some dilemma whether to implement basic constitutional rules of Wikipedia and create necessary precedents, or avoid such precedents and continue chaos where class of admins. can harass and bully other editors in the way they like with no any limitations, and even for personal revenge. Jimmy Wales, on the other hand, should be prized because he made real fortune from the generally good idea of internet encyclopedia. So Jimbo has some capabilities in general.178.222.82.95 22:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Reguyla, just relax and don't confront anyone and hopefully they will unban you. As for "justice", this term is an ideal (originated in ancient Greek political philosophy) and just like a "democracy" represent nothing more that the pure (not real) idealistic (set of) value(s)/idea or set of absolute perfect norms and/or principles, that never existed in any society or state, and will never exist ever!178.222.82.95 01:49, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks but I'm not stressing about it anymore. If they want me to consider editing then they need to unblock me, everywhere including here, on EnWP and IRC but they aren't going to do that because they don't really care about editors or improving the project. They want to keep making drama so they can justify blocks and bans that were never justified or at best only warranted a limited duration block. I doubt Jalexander-WMF has read my emails or comments because he just flat out doesn't care. He is too busy being important at the WMF to actually do anything of value to the community. But whenever he wants to start doing the right thing instead of the easy thing then he knows what he can do, which is to unblock me. Because although I am retired from editing for the most part I will still drop in from time to time and comment. Who knows, if they unblock me account and stop bullying me then maybe I'll even edit again. 2601:5CC:101:2EF2:E0AB:E224:FBD2:76F0 16:41, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Hallo Reguyla, If you that much love to edit Wikipedia learn Serbian, Croatian or as a best option Macedonian, and join any of the former Yu Rep. Wikis. and I may even help you to become admin. there. Alternatively, you can always change your name (with IP) and (re)start as a new editor on say (Simple) Eng. Wiki! Regards! (Do not reply me, I will not be here any more). 93.87.185.74 00:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

REQUEST FOR DELETION TEMPLATE OF A NAZI PAGE: BLP Violations at sh.wiki./Janevistan

Hi James,I would like to bring to your attention the case related to recently banned user Kolega2357 [7] from Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia [8] who actively contributed in the creation of the admin. protected page "Janevistan" [9]. I was surprised to learn that one of the Wiki. projects, was involved in harmful and politically (Nazi) motivated actions with the apparent serious offences against the national symbols of the Republic of Macedonia and particularly insults relating to the Constitutional name of the Republic of Macedonia. May I kindly ask you James to place a template for deletion on the page "Janevistan” [10], on the grounds of serious/blatant BLP violation of the Wiki rules and insults to the Macedonian state (Republic of Macedonia) and Macedonian people, as well as personal offences (Wikipedia Terms of Use offences, insults and mockery about Macedonia and Macedonians, misuse of Wiki. space etc.). If you place that template for deletion on harmful “Janevistan”, I am convinced that User:Orijentolog (the author of the text) from Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia will perhaps show a minimum good will and delete this (search visible) insulting page. Sincerely yours,IMPP-Dragan (talk) 22:49, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

What I found very offensive to Igor Janev (see salted BLP on eng.wiki [11]) was a statement found in the footnote no. 16 of "Janevistan" [12] where it was suggested that Igor Janev was a spy! (sh. "Obaveštajac") presumably Macedonian spy located in Serbia. This kind of statements should not be tolerated or interpreted as a jokes! As for trolling, I don't see anything funny by describing Macedonians in "Janevistan" as a wild savages constantly attacking other people and countries with their shadow "Tsar" Igor Janev, an extremist and expansionist. Apparently the country only exists "because of the conspiracy between the United Nations in cooperation with the Wikimedia Foundation". Plus, the inhabitants are mostly overweight, and their most famous athlete is a dog, owned by Igor Janev himself. Finlay, and very provocative to the Greek state was the suggestion that "temporary occupied" Greek city was Thessaloniki (sh. "Solun" under Capital of the state) i.e. the "capital" of Janevistan, that should be retaken and liberated (presumably by army, implied by sh. editors) and that it was allegedly the plan of "Janevistanian"/ Macedonian government. These inflammatory nonsenses are of very sensitive nature here in the Balkans and should not be tolerated on any Wikipedia. Wikipedia need not ever tolerate nasty behavior. Wikipedia should apply some universally accepted standards, particularly the rule of civility. Insults on national symbols are prohibited in almost every state in the world and in the Customary International Law. The general idea of "Janevistan" to make a "joke(s)" about the Name-less country of the FYROM (UN designation for Macedonia) is equally extremely offensive for every citizen of the Republic of Macedonia. So the country is, according to "Janevistan" not only Name-less, but also Nation-less! Libertarian Macedonian (talk) 19:28, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

I would also add here that state Coat of arms that was deliberately here replaced with the Greek one, not official Macedonian one suggesting expansionism, than national flag was modified into Japanese war flag, suggesting Macedonia will start the new Balkan war or even the Third World War, than insulting allegedly national anthem name "Bread and chutney"??!!, suggesting Macedonian were good only in producing pepper and potatoes (i.e. they are/were good for nothing!), and finally message in the label national motto("You will be killed"!!??).79.175.66.231 12:45, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

P.S. not to forget currency Macedonian Denar replaced with label "Macedonian Dollar"!, implying that behind all that war games was US Government (CIA) messing with Balkan stability and security.79.175.66.231 14:05, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Janevistan was not created by normal editors. Clearly, it was made by experts. Certainly, politically motivated experts. Nazi text Janevistan should vanish as soon as possible.Libertarian Macedonian (talk) 17:11, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Plus, as we speak, in real world disputed Name of the language (Macedonian) denied by Macedonian ethnic Albanians (and Greeks, as well) triggered mass demonstrations in Macedonia (for more than 20 days) by Macedonians (against Albanian demands) with possible civil war and fundamental inability to form a Government in Macedonia, see please about this development breaking news in Washington Post [13].178.222.126.254 02:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Negative form of supremacy content could also be found in: "nemakedonski zlikovci uvek imali isti princip "sruši i zakopaj", implying Macedonians are/were cultureless and evil people, and also "Istorijska nauka makedonologija je danas zvanično poznata i kao arheologija.", implying (supremacy ideology) that Macedonians never had any science (except pointless "digging in the Past”(of nothing)). In other words Macedonians are/were ethnically and culturally inferior group of people (with no history or values).178.222.126.254 22:13, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

• As you have been told before the Foundation will not generally engage in content changes except for very specific, usually legal, reasons. If you believe there are legal reasons to do this your best bet is to email legal@wikimedia.org. Any thing further on my talk page about it will be ignored Jalexander--WMF 02:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Mr. Jalexander, Ok I give up, but we did not have any previous conversation here or anywhere else. Furthermore, it was suggested somewhere that Igor Janev intervened or edit some texts or pages at Wikis. That is not true! Igor Janev never appeared or edit any Wikipedia ever! Also, if editors of sh.wiki were angry about any socks or alleged vandalism, they could of attacked only Igor Janev alone! It was not necessary to create Nazi jokes about Macedonia and Macedonian people. After warning from Macedonian admin. Erlich that jokes were unacceptable, they ignored that protest! So if Nazi jokes were acceptable in case of Macedonia, I suggest that your editors translate Janevistan and make a page in Eng. Wikipedia, so that many other people can have fun. I know that if I create similar page about Americans and the USA on Macedonian Wiki. you will most certainly apply Office action on urgent basis! But you have here double standards on almost all Wikis and Meta as well! In conclusion, by failing to act you supported these form of jokes, and not only jokes but articles were you label Republic of Macedonia as the FYROM [14]. What would happened if I create page on mk.wiki. art. about US replacing the state name USA with "Former Colony of the British Empire" and instead Americans say "Colonialists"? Than I am sure you would apply your Office action without consultation with your Legal office, especially if it was admin. protected! Presently, no one can even place on Janevistan template for deletion! What was interest to me was that most of people in Macedonia who never heard about Wikipedia now know about Wikipedia only because of Nazi Janevistan, proving to them (once again) how much you Western people hate Macedonia. I knew before that sh. editors hate all Macedonians, but I did not knew that you too on Meta hate them and support this type of Humor! We are lucky in all that, because in Macedonia less than 1 percent knows or read the Wikipedia! So you can continue to support political propaganda against Macedonia and Macedonians. Good luck with your values!Libertarian Macedonian (talk) 14:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

• P.S. Its my understanding that you James or someone from WMF should contact Legal Office legal@wikimedia.org. and then decide about the course of action. I am not surprised that in 20 days period no one from sh. wiki came here to defend their masterpiece Janevistan.Libertarian Macedonian (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

• Let me remind you that USA had recognized Macedonia under Constitutional name, people as Macedonians and language as Macedonian. This policy was accepted by Clinton, Obama and Trump. (According to the official UN classification, US recognition (of Name, people and the language) and Macedonian Constitution we are Republic of Macedonia.) Macedonians are nationally constitutive (State-Hood) people recognized by more than 150 nations in World, and the state Constitutional name the Republic of Macedonia was recognized by 135 member states of the UN (of 193 Members total). Please, apply same standards here at English Wikipedia and Meta. (And the US citizens are they Americans or just set of more than 100 ethnic groups and/or nations? Same standards you apply to US citizens or nation, please apply to other nations. Nothing gives you the right to speak on behalf of the other people(s) that have already spoken for themselves! ) The Right for Self Determination Belongs to All Peoples! Why you constantly insist here on the FYROM designation when you know that independent states have a sovereign right to self-determination? Does states have a sovereign right to have a name? Or country may not freely make choice on their state names, and be just name-less forever, perhaps? Maybe Macedonia is just an Janevistan, and their people are copies of one person, who knows? (I found unusual that United Nations "solved deference" between the Macedonia and the Greece by imposition of the "provisional reference" to the independent state, candidate for UN membership. For instance, in their course book on international law, Professors Henkin, Pugh, Schachter and Smit observe that there “appears to be no basis in international law or practice” for the Greek demand that Macedonia change its name, “claiming that the right to use that name should belong exclusively to Greece.” It is apparent that the Greek demands regarding the name of Macedonia are motivated mainly by concern that the admission to the United Nations of a state with that name may add strength in the political arena to possible Macedonian claims to Greek territory. The name itself has no legal bearing on such a potential dispute and no relevance to the qualifications that may legally be considered in connection with the admission of a state to the United Nations. From the point of view of legal theory, the inherent right of a state to have a name can be derived from the necessity for a juridical personality to have a legal identity. In the absence of such an identity, the juridical person (such as a state) could--to a considerable degree (or even completely)--lose its capacity to conclude agreements and independently enter into and conduct its relations with other juridical persons. Therefore, the name of a state appears to be an essential element of its juridical personality and its statehood.)79.101.174.60 22:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Please see discussion on the Jacob Rogers (Legal Counsel) talk page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jrogers_(WMF).Libertarian Macedonian (talk) 10:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Report: Again massive use of bot by Kolega2357 on Mk.wiki (thousands of edits or even more?)

Again massive use of bot by user Kolega2357 on Mk.wiki just in one day [15] thousands of edits.178.222.68.119 01:51, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@178.222.68.119: I am a bueaucrat on mk.wiki and I personally requested from Kolega2357 to make these changes and have him the bot flags, as we have no users that operate bots on their own. These are common language mistakes that need to be sorted out and editors there agree with me. --B. Jankuloski (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

With respect, according to this [16] in last 30 days Kolega2357 made 5221 edits and in last 365 days 5231 edits, only 10 edits more. Greetings!178.222.68.119 13:14, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@RadiX: Insofar as those edits have been according to our wishes (whether by my request or that of the community), then I see no problem with that. If, on the other hand, his activites cause technical issues, that is another matter, and I am certainly ready to compromise. Kind regards. --B. Jankuloski (talk) 13:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I don't know why I was pinged as I am not abreast with what is going on there, but he/she should consider using a bot account for such purposes. This user has over 20 million edits globally - many of which have been assisted by automated tools for repetitive tasks. RadiX∞ 13:50, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

• Yeah, while Kolega has had issues in the past with bot edits that were problematic on a technical front (so quick and repetitive that they caused technical problems) this does not appear to be an issue. 5221 edits in 30 days is entirely fair (and the reason for his lack of edits before that recently was because of my block not his choice) and not at all intrusive on a technical error. It's important that he follows local bot rules/policies but that appears to be the sense here and is generally for the local community to enforce. Jalexander--WMF 17:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
• Dear Bojan (User:Bjankuloski06), still there is a serious issue of an apparent involvement of Kolega in the activity and propaganda against Republic of Macedonia and its vital interests, on the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia. That includes, as you know, identity attacks and activity against the Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia. Please Bojan, in that light, consider reducing presence of user Kolega2357 on Macedonian Wikipedia. That, of course, is only an advise. Kolega is not welcome in Macedonia. Accept, Sir, the assurances of my highest consideration.178.222.111.37 18:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

P.S. This is only for Kolega. Dear Kolega, please remove (your) Janevistan from Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia (you can do it), and you will again be welcome on Macedonian Wiki and Republic of Macedonia. No hard feelings. Hope to have a good relations. Greetings!178.222.111.37 22:33, 30 September 2017 (UTC)