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לגבי זה

אין בעיה שכל ההודעה כתובה, אבל האם אתה בטוח שההודעה האמיתית מנוסחת באופן שתואם ב-100% למה שכתבת בגיליון? חשוב שזה יהיה זהה בדיוק. לא הצלחתי למצוא את ההודעה המתאימה ב-translatewiki, אולי אתה יודע מהי? --Guycn2 · ☎ 15:14, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

היי. לא, אין לי. ניסיתי להכנס לכמה אתרי ויקי כדי לקבל אותו, ולא הצלחתי. זאת לא הודעה מדויקת. אני לא זוכר את הטקסט המדויק, אבל זה משפט פתיחה שלאחריו באים 4 כפתורים (טקסט מדוייק הפעם):

1. זכרו את העורך האחרון שלי.
2. הציגו לי תמיד את העורך החזותי אם אפשר.
3. הציגו לי תמיד את עורך קוד המקור.
4. הציגו לי את שתי לשוניות העריכה.

אז אפשר לדמיין מהו המשפט הראשון. IKhitron (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

רצוי מאוד לא לדמיין. @Amire80, אולי אתה יודע איזו הודעה אחראית למשפט הראשון? Guycn2 · ☎ 17:50, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

אכן רצוי לא לדמיין, ועוד משהו שרצוי – בדיוק מאותה הסיבה – זה לא להוסיף לעברית דברים שלא כתובים באנגלית. בגיליון הנוכחי עשיתם את זה הרבה וזה לא טוב. מאותה הסיבה אני גם לא יכול לענות על השאלה.

אין שום דבר מיוחד בעברית. אם נחוץ ניסוח שונה, הוא כנראה נחוץ בכל השפות כולל אנגלית. אם אתם חושבים שצריך לנסח אחרת את האנגלית, אז פשוט תערכו בעצמכם (מותר, זה ויקי!), אבל מכיוון שהידיעון רגיש מבחינת זמן, צריך לעשות את זה עד שהגיליון מוקפא. (דבר אחד שאיכשהו מיוחד לעברית זה שבוויקיפדיה העברית התכנה מותקנת ביום רביעי. וזהו.) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:12, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

תודה, אמיר, לא ידעתי שמותר. להבא אשמח להציע שינויים ישר במקור, בתקווה שזה יראה מועיל ל-Johan.‏ IKhitron (talk) 18:14, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

תודה על ההסבר אמיר. אם כבר מדברים על זה, אפשר קישור להצבעה/דיון שבו הוחלט שוויקיפדיה העברית תקבל את הגרסה החדשה מוקדם יותר? סתם מתוך סקרנות... Guycn2 · ☎ 18:31, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

[1] IKhitron (talk) 18:33, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Your unexplained actions

I wondered why I wasn't receiving "Tech News" and discovered you had removed my subscription along with a few others.

I have repaired your unexplained changes after carefully checking how other users had since changed the page, and discovered another user has also, without explanation, changed another user's subscription.

• This behaviour is not acceptable. Do not do it again. I and I alone will decide to what I am subscribed.

If you'd like to explain and apologise, feel free to contact me on my Wikipedia talk page. fredgandt 03:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Answered there. IKhitron (talk) 10:41, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

ידיעות טכנולוגיה בדף החדשות

היי. למה מחקת את דף החדשות של ויקיפדיה מרשימת התפוצה של ידיעות הטנולוגיה?

דף החדשות הוא המקום המתאים ביותר בוויקיפדיה לעדכונים כאלה. רוב העדכונים בדף החדשות הם בנושא ממשק, אז למה שלא יהיו גם "ידיעות הטכנולוגיה"?

אם כבר, אז למחוק את דלפק הייעוץ ולהשאיר רק את דף החדשות, כי דלפק הייעוץ נועד לשאלות של ויקיפדים ולא לעדכונים מהסוג הזה. דלפק הייעוץ נוסף לרשימת התפוצה מלכתחילה לפני מספר שנים רק כי לא היה מקום מתאים אחר בוויקיפדיה, אבל עכשיו יש את דף החדשות שמתאים הרבה יותר מהדלפק. Guycn2 · ☎ 21:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

היי. כי כשיצרתי את החדשות, היה לי חזון, והוא לא כולל את החדשות הטכניות בצורתן הזוועתית. שים לב שכל גיליון של החדשות הטכניות נוחת בחדשות תוך כמה ימים, אחרי שאני מוחק את advanced, את הפגישות, את הפתיח ואת הסיכום, ואת כל החדשות שכבר הופיעו בוויקיפדיה:חדשות. כל השאר מגיע לשם כדי שהקהילה תוכל לקרוא. דלפק ייעוץ מיועד לאנשים הטכניים בין היתר, שקוראים בקביעות כדי לענות על שאלות, אז הם מגיעים גם לזה. חדשות מיועדות לקהילה כולה ואני לא רוצה להבריח משם את האנשים. את כל המידע הרלוונטי לקהל הרחב הם מקבלים. גם את הגיליון האחרון שיש שם בדיוק שתי ידיועות רלוונטיות, הם יקבלו בקרוב. IKhitron (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

טוב. אם כך, אני מציע לפחות שכשאתה מפרסם את הידיעות עם השינויים, אז כדאי שיהיה קישור "לידיעות המלאות" או משהו דומה, שיקשר לגיליון המלא במטא. Guycn2 · ☎ 21:22, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

אבל יש. IKhitron (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

וואי אני מצטער... באמת שלא שמתי לב Template:קריצה Guycn2 · ☎ 21:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

חופשי. ואין כזאת תבנית כאן. IKhitron (talk) 21:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

נכון שכחתי שאני כותב במטא ולא בוויקיפדיה Template:חיוך לילה טוב;) Guycn2 · ☎ 21:40, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

איפה זה?

היי, לא הבנתי... איפה זה מה? Guycn2 · ☎ 00:30, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

היי גם לך. איפה גלגל השיניים בדף מיוחד:הודעות? IKhitron (talk) 00:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

הוא כרגע לא מופיע; זה כנראה משהו שיוכנס בעדכון הבא (כי זה בפסקה "שינויים השבוע"). אולי עדיף שנשנה את זה לניסוח עתיד. Guycn2 · ☎ 00:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

דרך אגב, אתה בטוח במאה אחוז לגבי הסמל הזה? Guycn2 · ☎ 00:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

לא. זה לא אותו סמל. אבל האמיתי ייראה אותו דבר רק בשינויי צבע, אז זה מספיק קרוב לזיהוי. IKhitron (talk) 00:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

איפה אפשר לראות את האמיתי? Guycn2 · ☎ 00:56, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

phab:F4000137 IKhitron (talk) 01:02, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

אז למה לא להציג את הסמל האמיתי בגיליון? Guycn2 · ☎ 01:19, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

כי לא מצאתי אותו בוויקישיתוף. IKhitron (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

ועכשיו? Guycn2 · ☎ 11:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

אני די בטוח שזה לא תואם את חוקי ויקישיתוף - אף אחד לא הסמיך אותך לתת לקובץ רשיון חופשי. IKhitron (talk) 11:25, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

מן הסתם הקובץ הזה חופשי אם הוא נמצא בממשק של מדיה ויקי. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:00, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

בהחלט יכול להיות. אבל גם יכול להיות שהוא עדיין לא חופשי. IKhitron (talk) 12:33, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

אני בטוח שהוא חופשי, אבל גם אם לא, מפעילי המערכת בוויקישיתוף כבר ימחקו אותו במקרה כזה. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:37, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

ואתה תכנס לכלא... IKhitron (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

אני בטוח שיגזרו עליי מאסר עולם על העלאת אייקון של מדיה ויקי לוויקישיתוף Guycn2 · ☎ 16:18, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

מאסר עולם לא, אבל בהחלט יכולים לפגוע בהרשאת uploader בוויקישיתוף, וחבל. IKhitron (talk) 16:30, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

כאמור, אין סיכוי שאייקון בממשק של מדיה־ויקי מוגן בזכויות יוצרים. זה כמו שניתן להעלות צילומי מסך של ויקיפדיה לוויקישיתוף, כי הם לא מוגנים בזכויות יוצרים. Guycn2 · ☎ 05:00, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

נכון, ומצד שני יש סיבה שזה עדיין לא היה שם. IKhitron (talk) 09:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

לך תדע, אולי זה דווקא כן היה שם. Guycn2 · ☎ 11:14, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

אתה לא מכיר את מנגנון סכום הביקורת? אם היה כזה, היינו יודעים. IKhitron (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

בנוגע לעריכתך זו

היי. אני חושב שבניסוח הזה יש משהו קצת מבלבל. אמנם נוספה תמיכה באשף ההעלאה, אבל למיטב ידיעתי זה לא במקום הטופס הישן. עדיין ניתן יהיה להמשיך להשתמש בו... מהניסוח הזה אפשר להבין שלא ניתן יותר להשתמש בטופס הישן, אלא רק באשף ההעלאה. Guycn2 · ☎ 19:21, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

אם כך, שחזר את זה. IKhitron (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

שיניתי את הניסוח. שב"ש, Guycn2 · ☎ 19:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Special:Diff/15838223

היי, למה כוונתך במילה "בחירות"? לא ראיתי אותה באנגלית... Guycn2 · ☎ 20:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

היי. כי זה הכי טוב שמצאתי. אי אפשר להגיד זמנים (times), כי יש לזה משמעות אחרת. העניין הוא שכל אחד יוכל לבחור את השעה הנוחה לו. IKhitron (talk) 20:54, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

וגיא, אני לא חושב שאתה צודק בעניין רשומים. הם בעצמם לא בחרו את זה ככה. כי עקרונית, אתה רשום והתנתקת לא יודעים שאתה רשום, לא? IKhitron (talk) 20:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

אם כך, אפשר להחזיר את "משתמשים רשומים" ל"משתמשים המחוברים לחשבון". אבל במקרה של "משתמשים שלא מחוברים לחשבון", עדיף פשוט לכתוב "משתמשים אנונימיים" כי ברור למה הכוונה. Guycn2 · ☎ 20:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

צודק. IKhitron (talk) 20:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

ידיעות הטכנולוגיה 36

היי. ראשית, תודה על תיקון המשפט של ההבדלים בין גרסאות – באמת התקשיתי להבין למה הכוונה.

שנית, לגבי זה: לטעמי מיותר לציין שהכלי הנו בשימוש הבודקים. בתחילת המשפט כבר רשום "כלי בדיקת המשתמשים" ואני חושב שרוב הוויקיפדים יודעים מה זה כלי הבדיקה... Guycn2 · ☎ 18:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

היי. בשמחה. הוספתי אותו כי לדעתי זה לא מובן - מה זה בדיקת משתמשים? כל אחד יכול להכנס ולבדוק כמה עריכות יש למשתמשים? IKhitron (talk) 18:40, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

אז אם חייב את ההערה הזאת, הייתי מציע במקום את הניסוח הבא: ” ייתכן שכלי ה־CheckUser (שנמצא בשימוש על־ידי הבודקים) יעבוד בצורה שונה בעתיד. “

לדעתי עדיף ככה, כדי למנוע כפילות של השורש ב.ד.ק. Guycn2 · ☎ 18:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

צודק. IKhitron (talk) 18:56, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

תודה, שיניתי. שב"ש, Guycn2 · ☎ 18:58, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

ידיעות הטכנולוגיה 43

שלום. לא ממש הצלחתי להבין את הכוונה של זה, ולכן זה נשאר לא מתורגם. לתשומת לבך... Guycn2 · ☎ 17:01, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

עלי, Guycn2. ואם כבר חזרת, קח בחשבון שאם אתה משתמש בסקריפט 96 למרות שאתה בחופשה בוויקיעברית, שם המשתנה שמבטל את ההסתרה השתנה. אם כן, תגיד לי, אסביר לך מה עושים. IKhitron (talk) 17:04, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

תודה רבה על התרגום. כעת אני בחופשה (בוויקיעברית, לא כאן) ולכן לא ממש יוצא לי להסתכל ברשימת המעקב. כשאחזור, אפנה אליך ואשמח אם תסביר לי מה עושים. שבוע טוב, Guycn2 · ☎ 17:52, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News item

Hi, thanks for adding that item to Tech News! Since this issue went out to the translators a couple of days ago and many are already done with their translations, I moved it to the next issue. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 20:51, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

No problem and thank you, Johan. IKhitron (talk) 21:03, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Sentences with the same words

Yeah, I get what you dislike with repeated words within a sentence. It makes it look like whoever wrote that item in Tech News can't handle the English language. The reason I write like that, even though it's ugly, is that it makes it easier for readers with very basic knowledge of English to understand the newsletter.

(When I translate to Swedish, in which Tech News isn't really read by any larger number of non-native speakers, I tend to rephrase sentences like that.) /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

You are the boss, of course, Johan, but why make enwikis readers to suffer? They have no translation from English to English. IKhitron (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Boss and boss, it's a wiki. I think I have good reasons to do what I do, of course, but if everyone disagrees with me I'll bow to consensus. (:

If we want to, we can see it as the small price they have to pay for editing in the the language that can pretty much always count on having all the information, as opposed to any other language within the Wikimedia world. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

By the way, I added you to Tech/News/Writers because I think it reflects the truth. Feel free to rephrase or revert if you're uncomfortable with being mentioned there. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Before: Two questions, Johan. 1. Why do you think en-1 users will not understand the word browser? 2. Are you agree to my feeling there are more English speaking tech news readers than all the rest?

After. Thank you, I am honored. But are you sure it's right? I do not know English enough, or at all. IKhitron (talk) 21:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

It's more about the structure of the sentence. Even if you know the meaning of two words, it's easier to connect them when they're the same than when they're different. They probably could do it anyway, but when you're already struggling to understand, it's always helpful if the things that could be simplified are simplified, is how I reason.

I'm sure it's right. You're part of making the newsletter better. Speaking perfect English isn't necessary for being a valuable part of the process. If something needs to be rephrased, someone else can rephrase it (I take a look at all edits before I send it out, after all). If something doesn't work for one reason or another, it can be undone – that's how wikis work, after all. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, realized I didn't reply to your question about English readers. Yes, I'm fairly confident the majority of all Tech News readers read it in English. But looking at the distribution list, it's distributed in English to a fair number of wikis where we can't expect everyone to speak English. The number of readers who do speak decent English is probably a fair bit higher than the ones who understand it, but badly. But on the other hand, I think that a slightly more clumsy style of writing is a smaller problem than understanding less of the newsletter. The way I see it, it's a balance between a small problem for more people or a bigger problem for fewer. I tend to prefer making sure it's as easy to understand as possible. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you again.

So, Johan, I have two suggestions for you: 1. Let's try to rephrase it to be simple for you and not annoying for me. 2. What do you think about stoping to write the tech news in en: at all, and start to do it in simple: (or just another version), so it will be translated to normal English? IKhitron (talk) 21:37, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Just a short note: I need to pack and go to sleep and then head to airport to go to the Dev Summit, so I don't have time to properly discuss this right now, but I'll try to return to this conversation later. Ping me if I forget about it. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

@Johan (WMF): IKhitron (talk) 18:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I'll see if I can briefly talk to some experts on writing for these kinds of audiences and see what they recommend, does that sound like a good plan to continue with this? /Johan (WMF) (talk) 18:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Very well, Johan (WMF), let's try. Thanks. IKhitron (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Why the laziness?!?

You were 20 occurrences away from getting 100% of the issue fixed! Just kidding, thank you so much for what you just did. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

, Elitre (WMF). IKhitron (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News and mediawiki.util

Hey, regarding this addition – this is part of the removal of mediawiki.legacy.wikibits, which was reported in Tech/News/2017/16 and then again, focusing on mediawiki.util,in Tech/News/2017/18. I just want to understand what it is you feel hasn't been covered – is it that the explanations haven't been good enough, that we haven't mentioned a simple enough solution, or something else? /Johan (WMF) (talk) 22:35, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Johan (WMF), I know, that the reason for the change was informed. But this is someghing completely different - an explanation to "regular" users what to do if they have some wierd irrelevant problem. I am very good in tech, and I did not understand why I have problems until somebody else explained me. So I added this to help to thousand of users that can feel the same and do not know how to fix. See the edit summary. For me, it is very important to say this. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Presenting Community Engagement Insights survey report: Tuesday, October 10, 1600 UTC

Hi IKhitron,
I am reaching out to you because you signed up to receive updates about the Global Wikimedia survey.

We will be hosting a public event online to present the data, a few examples on how teams will be using it for annual planning, and what are next steps for this project. The event will take place on Tuesday, October 10, at 9:00 am PST (1600 UTC), and the presentation will be in English. You can watch the livestream here, and ask question via IRC on #wikimedia-office.

If you are unable attend, you can also find the report on meta, and watch the recording of the event at a later time.

We hope to have you join us online! -- María Cruz 23:28, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News

There's an extra piece of wiki code (<code>) in the Hewbrew translation of this week's Tech News. I've tried to fix it, but I don't think I'm adept enough at RTL text to succeed. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 18:24, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I tried too. I can't find the right code to put http on the left. I'll try more. IKhitron (talk) 18:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

OK, worst sitaution, I'll send it as it is and people will still understand, but I wanted to at least try to fix it. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 18:26, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Well, Johan, I did something. It's not perfect, but better than it was. IKhitron (talk) 18:31, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

OK, thank you! /Johan (WMF) (talk) 18:32, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Tech ambassadors, "take two"

Hello tech ambassador! This month has seen a good influx of new faces in this crew \o/ , so it is time to reactivate our conversations. Now that we have a pretty good coverage of so many different projects, here are some topics for your consideration.

1. Are there further thoughts on the role itself? I hope the questions available on Meta can help spark them. Please weigh in at Talk:Tech/Ambassadors/List#Tech ambassadors, take 2.
2. How about we try and organise future collective work in a Phabricator workboard? Talk:Tech/Ambassadors/List#A Phab workboard for us? has all the details to explore this proposal.
3. Finally, you are also welcome to comment at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177923, should you happen to have suggestions for the Community Liaisons team, currently wondering how to measure "Wiki projects requesting beta features and other early deployments".

We hope to be able to host a live discussion in early 2018; until then, we're looking forward to hearing from you on Meta! All the best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk), on behalf of the Community Liaisons

Request for help from Subbu (Parsing Team)

Hi there, ambassador! Subbu and his team would like to encourage a few big wikis to make a planned technical change slightly ahead of time, like the German and the Italian Wikipedia plus 170 other wikis already did last month. He'd appreciate if his message could be translated, before he posts it on the local village pump. (Once he does so, it would of course also be nice if you could keep an eye on the thread, should a conversation happen locally that requires his intervention and/or make sure that the message reaches the right people, but it's not a big deal if you can't!) He'll likely post there on Monday 15, and he'll just use the English version if a translation isn't available. Thanks in advance for your attention and help, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, done. IKhitron (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Getting started on Phabricator

Greetings, ambassador!

As recently discussed within this group, we are ready to experiment with setting up a project and its related workboard on Phabricator, the platform used in the Wikimedia movement for project management, software bug reporting and feature requests. It will help us coordinate and cooperate better on projects that should require ambassadors' involvement.

For the time being, I'm just asking that you please add your Phabricator nickname next to your name in the ambassadors' table (you can create an account now if you don't have one already). I will send you further information soon! Thanks for your patience as we get to the operational stage of this effort :) Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Done. IKhitron (talk) 15:18, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

לגבי השחזור

היי. לא הכרתי את הכלל שקישרת אליו, אבל בכל מקרה השימוש במילה "הזאת" הוא יותר מדי לא מליצי בעיניי, ולא מקובל בטקסטים כתובים (אלא בעיקר בדיבור). גם בערכי ויקיפדיה יש יותר מופעים ל"הזו". בכל מקרה, שאלתי את אלדד בנושא. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

היי גם לך. לדעתי דווקא "הזאת" זאת שפה גבוהה, כפי שכבר כתבתי, ו"הזו" זאת שפת רחוב. בוא נראה מה הוא אומר. IKhitron (talk) 12:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

לי דווקא יוצא לשמוע את "הזאת" כשפת רחוב, למשל במקרים של זלזול: "הילדה המעצבנת הזאת מציקה לי!" יישמע יותר הגיוני בשפת רחוב מאשר "הילדה המעצבנת הזו מציקה לי!". אבל נחכה לתגובת אלדד... Guycn2 · ☎ 12:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

איפה שאלת אותו, Guycn2? אשמח לעקוב. תודה, IKhitron (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

במייל, כי העדפתי לא להכביד על דף שיחתו בנושאים שאינם קשורים לוויקיפדיה. אבל אם זה חשוב, אשאל אותו בוויקיפדיה ואבקש ממנו להשיב שם ולא במייל. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אני בהחלט אשמח להיות חלק מהשיחה. IKhitron (talk) 12:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אוקיי, אשאל אותו עכשיו. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Done Guycn2 · ☎ 12:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

עוד בנוגע לחדשות הטכניות

היי שוב. אני פותח פסקה חדשה כדי לא לערבב בין שני הנושאים. מדוע שינית את "כל אתרי הוויקי עם פחות מ־100 שגיאות ניקיון" ל"כל אתרי ויקי עם פחות מ־100 שגיאות לינטר"?

אני חושב ש"אתרי הוויקי" עדיף מאשר "אתרי ויקי", משום שמדובר בכל אתרי הוויקי עם פחות מ־100 שגיאות, ולא רק בחלק מהם, ולכן ה"א היידוע מתאימה כאן.

לגבי "לינטר" – זהו שם ההרחבה באנגלית, אבל מהעורכים בעברית דווקא מצופה יותר להבין את המילה "ניקיון" מאשר את המילה "לינטר", שהרי זוהי כותרת הדף המיוחד, וכך גם המונח מופיע במקומות אחרים בממשק. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אז ככה. לגבי "ויקי" זאת מילה שאין לה יידוע. כמו שלא אומרים "הפריז". לגבי ניקיון - הרבה משתמשים במילה לינטר, אבל בהחלט כדאי למצוא משהו מקומי. המילה "ניקיון" לא מתאימה, כי היא לא יוצרת לקורא אסוציאציות עם לינטר, אלא עם כל סוגי הניקיון האפשריים, שזה רק אחד מהם. IKhitron (talk) 12:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

לא הבנתי למה זו מילה שאין לה יידוע. מהנוסח "אתרי ויקי" אפשר להבין שהשינוי יתבצע רק באתרי ויקי מסוימים, ולא בכולם. באותה מידה, מהמשפט "חיילים שהשתתפו במלחמה נהרגו" ניתן להבין שרק חלק מהחיילים שהשתתפו נהרגו, אך לא כולם, בעוד שהמשפט "החיילים שהשתתפו במלחמה נהרגו" מבהיר שכולם נהרגו. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:38, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אני אף פעם לא רואה בזה רק חלק, וקשה לי להבין למה אתה חושב ככה. בכל מקרה, בעניין הידוע, זאת החלטה שהתקבלה ממש מזמן במזנון. IKhitron (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

תוכל בבקשה לקשר אליה? Guycn2 · ☎ 12:46, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אני לא חושב. גם לי ספרו את זה ככה הרבה פעמים. כדאי שתשאל ותיקים ממני בהרבה. IKhitron (talk) 12:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

אשאל את אלדד גם בנוגע לזה כשיהיה לו זמן. Guycn2 · ☎ 12:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Interaction Timeline V1.1

Hello IKhitron, I’m following up with you because you previously showed an interest in the Interaction Timeline. The Anti-Harassment Tools team has completed V1.1 and the tool is ready for use. The Interaction Timeline shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits.

The purpose of the tool is to better understand the sequence of edits between two users in order to make a decision about the best way to resolve a user conduct dispute. Here are some test cases that show the results and also some known limitations of the tool. We would like to hear your experience using the tool in real cases. You can leave public feedback on talk page or contact us by email if the case needs discretion or you would prefer to comment privately. SPoore (WMF) (talk) , Trust and Safety Specialist, Community health initiative (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, SPoore, and thank you. I'm interested in this as new tool, not because I use it so much. But you can leave a message on w:he:שיחת ויקיפדיה:מנטר (our patrollers talk list), it can be much useful. IKhitron (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion. I will do it. SPoore (WMF) (talk) , Trust and Safety Specialist, Community health initiative (talk) 17:37, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation number markers

Hi IKhitron. You asked in the edit summary if that edit was correct. Basically, no, we should not ever write it in the <!--T:##--> markers manually. We should only ever type the <translate></translate> tags, and then let the system assign the <!--T:##--> marker (when a translation admin marks the page as ready). However, you were correct in thinking that in the previous edit Wargo had also made a mistake, both by manually adding a <!--T:##--> marker and also by including a duplicate <!--T:##--> marker (the system makes sure that each number is unique). I hope that helps explain the complexity a bit. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:51, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the Explanation, Quiddity, I'll remember this. IKhitron (talk) 23:56, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey: Maximum 3 proposals per user

Hi IKhitron! Thanks for participating in the survey. Unfortunately, in order to ensure proposers are able to actively tend to their proposals, there is a rule that you can make only three proposals. Please find someone to adopt your extra proposals, or if you are okay abandoning them, we can move them to the archive. Thanks for your understanding! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, MusikAnimal, and thank you for your message. When is the last date I should decide about it, November 11? IKhitron (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Sooner the better! Discussion will occur all throughout the proposal phase. What we don't want to see is a proposal gain momentum and excitement and then have to archive it because no one will adopt it. So what I recommend is to pick your top three, then we can archive the others while you find someone to adopt them. Would that be alright? MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

I'll explain you why it looks like a bad idea for me, MusikAnimal. I know for sure that I'm able to work with all four, but rules are rules. I can ask my bot to take the fourth one, of cource, but it does not look nice. So, if I'll not find anyone, and it takes time to search, I'll choose one to remove. I want to do that as late as possible, because I do not want to happen the same as last year - my proposal was removed at the last day of the preliminary phase, (because it already was the winner in previous year and the developers decided not to implement it). If the same will happen this year, I remain with two, if I'll decide now. If I decide at the end of the phase, I can choose from remaining proposals, if any. What do you think? Thank you, IKhitron (talk) 21:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Definitely do not use your bot! Humans only :) Any proposal that gets moved to the archives can be recovered if the only reason it is there is because you hit your limit. So do not worry if other proposals get rejected for other reasons, or you don't find an adopter until later. Would you mind picking which one you'd like to archive? Thanks for your understanding! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good, and I already picked one specific for this case, but if you archive it now, it will not participate in preliminary phase, so it cannot be rstored later, can it? Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 15:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

It can be restored if you have less than 3 active proposals, and it is not rejected for some other reason. Of course someone else can adopt it, too. Don't worry about it :) I'm not sure which one you wanted to archive. Could you give me a link or the name? Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I still do not understand, why other proposals should be in preliminary phase, and this one can be excused. But you're the boss. So, my fourth proposal is "Keep inclusion history", because it is the one with the least chances. IKhitron (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

We're enforcing this rule for everyone, not just you :) Not to worry, like I said the proposal can be recovered if need be. Thanks for your understanding! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Well, MusikAnimal, it's time to return the proposal. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 01:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey, looks like the same issue exists with the fourth proposal. I'm sorry! As a team we decided these proposals were out of scope. Had I known ahead of time, I wouldn't have misled you into thinking the other proposal could be restored. Apologies again, and thanks for your participation! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 03:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 12:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey

Hi,

You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Tech News, Hebrew Wikipedia

Hi, just checking in – Tech News still working on Hebrew Wikipedia? I did nothing to fix the problem we had with delivery, still no idea why that happened, so I just wanted to make sure everything was still OK. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 18:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Johan, looks like it works, indeed. IKhitron (talk) 18:50, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Please translate the Editing newsletter

Would you please translate VisualEditor/Newsletter/2019/July into your favorite language for me? I'd really appreciate it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:30, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Whatamidoing. Unfortunately, I do not understand so much in VE. IKhitron (talk) 17:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the version number. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Sure thing. Actually, I saw this hours earlier, Johan, but was not sure because of 1.22 blocker. IKhitron (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I've not seen any reason to assume .23 won't go out as normal, as the .22 blocker has been solved. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 15:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

So this is why I fixed, just after read the mail about the solution. IKhitron (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Watchlist Expiry project page

Hello,

During the Community Whishlist survey 2019, you have voted for the Watchlist item Expiration wish.

Community Tech has created the Watchlist Expiry project page to work on this feature, and is looking for your feedback about the open questions they have.

Regards, IFried_(WMF), 15:51, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

2 requests

m:VisualEditor/Newsletter/2019/October needs to be translated. Can you please help me with that?

The newsletter contains a request from the mw:Editing team about the new mw:Talk pages project. They want examples of useful discussions on wiki. Could you please give an example, or ask people to share an example? Any example – a discussion that made you happy, solved a problem, resulted in an article getting fixed, with new editors or old editors, really, anything – will be welcome.

Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:56, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi. About translation, as I already said once, I do not use VE, so prefer not to translate something I do not understand. About discussions - sure, but what do you mean exactly? What is the domain? There are thousands of discussions. IKhitron (talk) 11:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Refined references looking for first wikis

The feature that makes it possible to refine references has been available on the beta cluster (example article) since December 2019. We plan to deploy it to first wikis, especially right-to-left wikis, in mid-April. Because you gave feedback a while ago, do you feel like asking at your home wiki if they want to be among the “early birds” to use this feature? If you are interested, please let me know on my talk page! -- For the TechWish Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Before I'm answering, maybe User:יונה בנדלאק or User:Amire80 are interested more? IKhitron (talk) 14:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Looks OK to me. If nothing changes in the rendering of the current wikitext, I see no particular reason not to just enable it everywhere :) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Does this mean you're going to do this, User:Amire80? IKhitron (talk) 15:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Do what, ask? I'd be happy if you did it, because I'm busy with a thousand other things :) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes. A pity, because I have the same problem. Let's wait for Yonah. IKhitron (talk) 18:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Yona (without H) don't have time too. but what exactly is the next step? ask the local community? I can do it but it probably better to be present by someone who really try it and maybe have an example or two. - yona B. (D) 12:59, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Hi greetings, I've started a discussion regarding tech news delivery at Talk:Tech/News. I humbly request you to participate in it. Thank you.--Path slopu (talk) 04:20, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Hi greetings, I've started a discussion regarding tech news notifications at Talk:Tech/News#Tech news notifications. I humbly request you to participate in it. Thank you.--Path slopu (talk) 10:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech/News/2020/35

What about it? קובץ על יד (talk) 05:19, 26 August 2020 (UTC) ? IKhitron (talk) 10:28, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

שלום

ראיתי מה כתבת לקובץ על יד, רציתי ג"כ להציע עזרה בתרגום. מה דעתך שכל פעם שתתרגם את החדשות בבין הזמנים תתיג אותי בתקציר העריכה? (בבקשה תתיג אותי בתשובה) ישר כח! --ישראל קלר (talk) 14:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

היי. תודה, ישראל קלר. לגבי תקציר - אני לא בטוח שזה אפשרי טכנית, אבל בכל מקרה אני בוודאות אשכח. IKhitron (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

אז אם תרצה תוכל לתייג אותי כשתודיע לקובץ על יד (מקסימום תשכח... לא מדי חשוב...) --ישראל קלר (talk) 13:58, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

אני לא אודיע גם לו, כמובן. IKhitron (talk) 12:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021: Invitation

The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 November, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 December and 21 December.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:26, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021

We invite all registered users to vote on the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. You can vote from now until 21 December for as many different wishes as you want.

In the Survey, wishes for new and improved tools for experienced editors are collected. After the voting, we will do our best to grant your wishes. We will start with the most popular ones.

We, the Community Tech, are one of the Wikimedia Foundation teams. We create and improve editing and wiki moderation tools. What we work on is decided based on results of the Community Wishlist Survey. Once a year, you can submit wishes. After two weeks, you can vote on the ones that you're most interested in. Next, we choose wishes from the survey to work on. Some of the wishes may be granted by volunteer developers or other teams.

We are waiting for your votes. Thank you!

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

16:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Translation support

The Legal team has paid for professional translations of the privacy policies, and they seem to be struggling with the Hebrew translation. The first round was terrible, so they sent it back, but I'm not convinced that the replacement is correct, either. I wonder if you could look it over and fix anything that's broken. Their latest version of the short page is at User:Whatamidoing (WMF)/Donor privacy policy/Supplement/he, and you can see the English original at foundation:wiki/Donor privacy policy/Supplement/en. One of the reasons I'm pretty sure that this is not a good translation is that there are supposed to be four links in this page, and the translation only contains two.

There's another, longer document, but it'll take me a while to get that posted on wiki. Thanks for considering this request. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi. There are problems indeed. It could be much easier if the wikicode could be open. Nevertheless, there are places that afe hard to understand in the source. For example, I still do not know what the header means. IKhitron (talk) 17:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I've finished copying User:Whatamidoing (WMF)/Donor privacy policy/he. If anything, I worry that it's worse. I noticed that several links (at the very end) are missing, and one link that is meant to be just a couple of words (as short as "click here") seems to span over a couple of sentences. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

The ==section heading== will be used as the {{DISPLAYTITLE}}. The English version says "Wikimedia Foundation Donor Privacy Policy: Select Service Providers’ Information" there. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Yup. And I do not understand it at all. According to the translators, looks like they do not either. They wrote "Some particular donor to Wikimedia Foundation has private policy: Please do choose relevant information about [mobile] service provider". IKhitron (talk) 18:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see.

"Select" here is an adjective. "Chosen" might be a similar word. The meaning is like "Here is information about the service providers that we have selected [to share]". The purpose of "select" is to indicate that it is not a complete list of information about every single provider, but only information about the providers that they have chosen to emphasize. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I see. Maybe you should ask somebody that speaks English better than terrible mine. IKhitron (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

A Community Wishlist Survey update waiting for translation

Hello! Would you be able to translate the newest update about the Community Wishlist Survey 2022? In short: instead of November 2021, the CWS will happen in January 2022. We would also like to make other improvements. We can't do that without having the volunteers' opinions. This is what we ask for in the message.

After the weekend, I'll send this to all Village Pumps, Cafes, Forums, etc. Our team would like as many people as possible not to ignore this message. Let's remove the language barrier.

Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) 01:29, 4 September 2021 (UTC)