Talk:Wikibooks/Logo/Proposal/F

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1. Awesome! I like this a lot - borrows the puzzle theme from WP, and the book theme from WB. Plus it's gold cuz Books is better =D This one doesn't scale well to 16px, so the artist might want to create a special version for that (without text, high contrast etc) – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 02:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
2. Great concept and borrows the idea from Wikipedia's logo, but it's just too complex and noisy. --penubag (talk; w) 03:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
3. This is a great logo, but the favicon is hard to view. --Pietrodn · talk with me 18:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
4. I like the idea but I think it is too complicated and too wikipedia-logo-like. It could be great as icon for featured book, but I think it doesn't suit as a logo. --Ramac 20:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
5. Since the favicon doesn't have to be an exact scaled-down version of the logo, it can omit the "Wikibooks" wordmark and tilt the book toward the reader a bit. That might make things a bit clearer. – Minh Nguy?n (talk, contribs) 07:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

   Yeah, i agree it might be a little bit too complex. I was thinking of tuning down the colors a bit and making it more stylized, without losing the 3d view, but it's pretty difficult to make good 3d icons in a vector program :). For the favicon i would probably make a different version, maybe even one golden puzzle piece or something else. By the way, i purposely used the Wikipedia concept of the puzzle pieces. Although all projects have a different identity, i believe they should be connected somehow, and the puzzle metaphor really seems to lend itself very well to that. Husky 21:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC) (the author)

6. This would be excellent if "logo-ized" (simpler shapes, wider lines, the "page" lines have to go), as above. Really classy logo! ALTON .il 07:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
7. A "plus" for puzzle idea
8. Great idea, but perhaps a so-so execution.--HereToHelp (talk) 12:44, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
9. This logo is one of my favorites, although I agree with some of the sentiments above that it could use a little bit of polish on it. The favicon, instead of being the entire book shrunk down, could be a single golden puzzle piece, or something like that. Some of the detail around the binding of the book looks like it needs to be improved. --Whiteknight (meta) (Books) 16:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
10. The design is nice, however, the puzzle theme bothers me. WP did it already and did it well. If we want to distinguish Wikibooks as its own brand, we should be carful about "borrowing" design elements from other logos. That being said, I would prefer a logo based on "u". We are puzzling together books, not writing books on puzzles. --Ezra Katz 20:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

    I don't see a problem with showing a little bit of solidarity with Wikipedia. Incorporating the puzzle element shows that while we have some things in common with WP, we are different and special in our own right. --Whiteknight (meta) (Books) 01:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

11. Yes, it's favicon is a bit unclear. And the logo looks like a photo album not really much a book. -- Felipe Aira 02:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
12. Preety good huh. I like this.Putera Luqman Tunku Andre 17:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
13. I suggest the third one. I think it's a very good idea to have some similarities to the Wikipedia-logo. The favicon could be also similar to Wikipedia. However, with the first suggestion, the font is exactly the same to WIKIMEDIA. So, I thought it's better to have an original font for WikiBooks.--Demoeconomist 18:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

    First of all, Wikibooks is written with no capital "B" :-)

    There are already two projects that have a "W" as favicon (wikipedia and wikt) so I don't it is a good idea use a W as favicon.
    Moreover, I don't think that wikibooks is similar to wikipedia more than other projects, all brojects are different is some way --Ramac 19:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

    At first, thanks for your comment. I didn't noticed that it is written differently. However, because I don't have the font for the logo, I can't update it with a small "b". I understand your opinion about the favicon. I didn't checked that of Wiktionary, but it's exactly the same of Wikipedia. Possibly a change of the color of "W" would emphasise the difference, or?--Demoeconomist 20:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

    If you think there could be an answer, look here: commons:User_talk:Rei-artur#The_font_for_Wikibooks_logo--Demoeconomist 18:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

14. I love the puzzle book motif. It implies that Wikibooks is a work in progress, as is anything that can be edited by the general public. But why are the uninserted pieces just gone? Did they run away from home? And why don't you put some different designs on the inserted pieces, to show the different subjects? And can we please put something to do with a computer screen in there? Kari hyena alligator thing 21:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
15. Too much detail, I prefer (a+u). Webaware ^talk 02:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

    I think the first "(a with u)", if you mean that, isn't simple enough to make it to a favicon. We could recognize the logo, if we already know the logo of Wikibooks. However, forgetting about the current logo, we can't say that the imaged things are books and not any cards, DVD-covers or simply metal plates. I don't see any reson to illustrate three books in the logo. Opened books are much better to recognize even in a small size. Furthermore, a wiki has a similar philosophy of open-source projects. So, a opened book could express it better than closed books like in the first "(a with u)" or the current logo.--Demoeconomist 20:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

16. U seems to be ending or about to end since there is only one page to read. Shouldn't be it that the book is just starting (mirror image of u) to symbolise that the project is going to start something? This is true for most of us that the book is ending since most languages start from the left side to the right side of the book, unless you are in an arabic script wiki. -- Felipe Aira 03:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

    Puzzle is making the connection to Wikipedia, but is that what you would want? I don't like the puzzle in the wikipedia-logo either, so a no for me. Londenp 11:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

    We should allow the puzzles to be a symbol of projects held by the WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION, because we selected it democratically and with a great different: International_logo_contest/Finalists About the book of u, I'd like to notice that it would be the first page, if it was an Arabic, Hebrew or Chinese book. We should show the internetionality. So, I suspect that we didn't choose a logo like this for Wikipedia, although encyclopedias are normally books, too, because we should choose an internationally acceptable one. We can also see this issue in characters of several languages on the puzzle pieces. In the other hand, the round shape, which symbolizes the earth, is absolutely international. So, we took that logo. I must ask here: How can we select an other logo? Wikibooks should also be global and multi-language. It is also constructed by pieces, which we complete together. We shouldn't even have any picture of a classic book, because Wikibooks isn't classic! The different between Wikipedia isn't the structure of the wiki, neither. The new logo should show the different of the content: at Wikibooks, we don't write articles about everything, but provide the information to people who want to learn something for their practical life! Wikibooks is a kind of "Wikipedia + teacher". My suggestion: the new logo should be a hand, which gives the Wikipedia-logo.--Demoeconomist 17:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

17. Professional looking, but doesn't so anything for me. a with u is the better font but I think it will fail the scalability situation. SunCreator 14:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
18. Very nice, puzzle theme and everything. maybe think of using wikipedia's grey tones? gold, is a little to innovative for my taste.

Even tray to combine it with (s), the one of the globe coming out os a book, may be the puzzle should be seen on the pages, while the planet comes out of the book, with wikibooks, we get to discover the world, the world os knowledge.--Afa86 17:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

1. Like (u); looks great as it isSarindam7 20:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)