Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2020-08

User page not in English ported to en.Wiki where we cannot remove it

User:Ketan Kumar Bhatt has a non-English page that he linked to his en.wiki user page where we do not allow user pages in other languages yet we cannot remove it as it is hosted here. Can someone please take a look at this? Thanks in advance. -- Alexf (talk) 10:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Not done @Alexf: we will not delete a userpage here, soley because it is in a specific language. If a local project does not want to see a global userpage, they can create a local user page to override it. That being said, this page may run afoul of the meta-wiki Meta:Inclusion policy - if someone that can read Hindi (I think) can review the page - if it is out of the meta-wiki scope they may flag it for speedy deletion. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Gone ahead and deleted it for simply being out of scope. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt attention to the issue. -- Alexf (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Alexf, though this has been resolved, I do want to make a note about user pages in different languages. The contents of a Meta-Wiki user page, often called a global user page, are shown on all projects where the user does not have a local userpage. I've taken the time to translate part of my userpage into a handful of languages, but most people do not, and even then on the majority of projects my userpage will simply be in English. It would be incredibly time-consuming and costly for me to translate my userpage into every language that has a Wikipedia project, especially considering that even an English userpage on a non-English project means that local editors have some idea of who I am and what I do, whether they know some English or use a machine translator. The same can be applied in any language. My point is this: with global userpages, it is not beneficial to try and enforce that they be in English. Best regards, and happy editing, Vermont (talk) 14:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Noted. I'll report the ones that are out of scope to the project. -- Alexf (talk) 14:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

+1 to Vermont's comment, in fact, we are a multi-cultural, multi-lingual project, so it would be the height of hypocrisy to enforce English language pages. User pages should be based on Meta:scope and Meta:civility alone.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:12, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

+1 In general, in my opinion no project should set a language on the user sites, all projects belong together via the WMF and the global community. And not everyone speaks English as their mother language.--14:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

 Support The page was out of scope, but the request was extremely bad anglocentrism, you should be reprimanded for that. Das hier ist ein internationales Projekt, Englisch ist nut eine von vielen Sprachen, und die Monolinguisten sollen gefälligst eine andere Sprache lernen, bevor sie über Leute maulen, die tatsächlich auch ihre Sprache benutzen. Ik hou niet van mensen, die allen maar eene taal praten. Grüße vom Sänger ♫^(Reden)

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Report concerning User:4Blood71I0248

4Blood71I0248 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: VOA, LTA. Xiplus (talk) 02:30, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Blocked also revoked tpa and email due to abuse. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Sgd. —Hasley 13:37, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Report concerning User:‎Matracupu

‎Matracupu (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: clearly nothere. GZWDer (talk) 06:16, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Blocked. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Sgd. —Hasley 13:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Request for mass message rights

Hi, I am part of Wikimedia Italia staff, it would be useful for my work to be able to send mass messages. --Marta Arosio (WMIT) (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marta Arosio (WMIT) can you link to an existing target list and a prepared mass message that you need to send, or have had sent in the past? DannyS712 (talk) 09:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712 I didn't send any mass message till now, I have always asked to others to do that for me; for example this message was sent on my request to this list of people. The next thing I would like to do is to send a message to this list (I know I need to fix the list before) in order to invite them to answer a survey about contributors on it.wiki. --Marta Arosio (WMIT) (talk) 11:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Done. --MF-W 12:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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RfD closure

Hello. I was going to close this RfD when I noticed that I participated, so I shall leave the decision to other admin. For transparency: I was going to close it as kept because I don't think there's consensus to delete the page; and leave further discussion about its potential rename to WM:PPM or its talk page. But like I said, it's not my call anymore. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Closed as keep. Sgd. —Hasley 20:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Request protect some pages

2,3,B,Z,710248,710262,710437,cross-wiki abuse and LTA 坦帕灣光芒 460 sock vandal.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 09:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

A protection for all pages would only lead to the LTA dodging to other pages.--𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 09:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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Closure of RFC about RFCs

Hi! An uninvolved admin (or steward) might want to have a look at Requests_for_comment/Reforming_the_RFC_process#Closing_this_RFC. --MF-W 02:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Closed by Vermont DannyS712 (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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Cannot answer to comments on a GIPBE request: answer considered as vandalism (local)

Hello, there. I asked for GIPBE, but made a mistake in my request which has been misinterpreted; I tried to answer to correct it, but am unable to do so: I'm getting the message Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Antivandalism (local). Could someone unblock me to allow me to answer to User:-revi and solve the misunderstanding? Regards. —Moinats (talk) 14:32, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Moinats, I've tweaked the filter, please try again. Sorry that this has happened. --Base (talk) 16:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

@Base: it worked, thank you very much. —Moinats (talk) 08:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Moinats: Can I recommend that you confirm your email address. The filter report identifies that it hasn't been done, and for us that is a good test of good editors.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I did not give my email address because I don't want to link my Wikimedia account to my email address. Should it be proved necessary, I'll give one, but I prefer not to. —Moinats (talk) 08:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

billinghurst, how would the email help them? --Base (talk) 00:37, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

It helps on some filters, I won't be more specific in public fora.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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Special:AbuseFilter/93

This should be disabled as the page is no longer used.--GZWDer (talk) 22:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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Harassment

Hi. Can someone do a local range block on 2001:16A2:9000::/36? At the very least, please do a partial block to prevent this troll from harassing me on my user talk page.

Evidence of harassment:

• Special:Diff/19869356
• Special:Diff/19922667
• Special:Diff/19946564
• Special:Diff/20230231
• Special:Diff/20238990
• Special:Diff/20353499
• Special:Diff/20378839

Thanks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:33, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Blocked the range for a month DannyS712 (talk) 13:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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Request for mass message rights

I am part of the Wiki Loves Folklore international team. I want to send messages to aware people about the campaign Illustrate Wikipedia. Please grant me the rights as soon as possible.--*•.¸♡ ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕒𝕣𝕤𝕙𝕒𝕟 𝔹𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕡𝕒𝕝 ♡¸.•*^{𝕋𝕒𝕝𝕜} 11:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I am coordinator for this project and Hardarshan is Community outreach officer for this initiative and project and is well experienced doing outreach for the international campaigns on various platforms. Our communications officer is not able to support the current phase of the project due to health issues. Hardarshan getting mass messaging rights can help a lot in much needed regional promotion and awareness of the ongoing project in South Asia Wikipedia langauges. Wikilover90 (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Benipal hardarshan: can you point out the page your properly crafted global message targets list is stored on? — xaosflux ^Talk 19:17, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: User:Benipal hardarshan/MassMessage

Hmm, how is Talk:Wikimedians of India technical user group related to the campaign? --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Martin Urbanec: It is not related in any way and is irrelevant in this thread.--*•.¸♡ ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕒𝕣𝕤𝕙𝕒𝕟 𝔹𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕡𝕒𝕝 ♡¸.•*^{𝕋𝕒𝕝𝕜} 11:02, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

• Not done @Benipal hardarshan: your response above, as well as the composition of your list indicates that you are lacking in some understanding of message target management. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:35, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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Creating User:ShohagS@global

I recently tried to create an global page for my account here. I am getting error warning that I need to login to create a user page. But I'm currently logged in and writing to you. What's the problem? Please specify that. Thanks. ShohagS (talk) 06:59, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

It should be just at User:ShohagS. You do not need the @global prefix. RhinosF1 (talk) 07:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Why is that? I found it at block log here. Please explain me if I have the right to create or something else. ShohagS (talk) 07:04, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

The @global is used by CentralAuth to indicate an action on a global account. It is not used by GlobalUserPage. I'm not sure if we should allow people to create redirects from @wiki/global pages. RhinosF1 (talk) 07:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

This @global suffix is supposed to disappear. I’m not sure it is really useful to allow people create redirections. --Pols12 (talk) 10:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

-autopatrol for User:Ruhubelent

I don't see how an user who is repeatedly blocked for civility issues (for edits on their userpage) be still be autopatrolled. They clearly doesn't command the trust from us. I did sort of have some involvement with them (via moving of their userpage), hence, will be best for someone else to do the necessary than me doing it personally. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:15, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Given that they are currently blocked, and based on a quick skim of their recent edits, I agree. Removing --DannyS712 (talk) 11:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

 Removed --DannyS712 (talk) 11:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

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Warning: This action has been automatically identified as harmful.

A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: new user youtube, &c.

I'm a Wikipedia novice who would like to add a writeup for a proposal for Contextual Citation to my User page. I had included a link to a YouTube video earlier that was triggering the filter but I have removed it. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Timlangeman (talk)

@Timlangeman: Sure, your editing resembled that of a spambot's that spam youtube urls. I suggest to create the content on a subpage in your user space, typically a sandbox page. Try user:Timlangeman/sandbox.  — billinghurst sDrewth 16:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Thanks for your feedback. I created a new subpage on my user profile. Is there any way that I can embed the YouTube video that is on my home page on my user subpage? If video embeds are not possible, is it better to include an image that links to the video?

Spam false positive

I want to edit my Meta-Wiki user page, so that it will look better, replacing its current content:

ראה דף בויקיפדיה העברית: [[http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:1%D7%90%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%94%D7%9D1]] see my page at the HE Wikipedya at:[[http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:1%D7%90%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%94%D7%9D1]]

with the following code, which conveys the same message, but has much better look:

[[w:he:משתמש:1אברהם1|see my page at the HE Wikipedia here - ראה דף בויקיפדיה העברית כאן]]

Alas, once I try to publish my changes, I get the following message:

"Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Global "ntsamr"-pattern spambot filter"

What does it mean?

Thanks, 1אברהם1 (talk) 13:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Ruslik (talk) 18:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@1אברהם1: Thanks for the contact. Just by proving that you are a human and complaining here, has had you undertake enough actions to circumvent the spambot defence. You should be able to edit away on your user page. Apologies for any inconvenience.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

As a general comment, you can use {{interwiki redirect}} for a neater and easier message.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

thank you all! --1אברהם1 (talk) 14:26, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I was simply commenting on a discussion page and this warning popped up, "Warning! — Your edit has been automatically identified as being spam or advertising. Please note that such edits are not allowed on any Wikimedia project. Users that engage in such behaviour will have their editing privileges removed. If you believe that the edit you wanted to make was constructive, we sincerely apologize. You may click the Submit button again to confirm it. A brief description of the rule which your action matched is: «Antispam». Feel free to report false positives to our administrators' noticeboard." I will say that I have eaten spam, don't hate on me, you get hungry when you are backpacking through the wilderness. I am clearly not a bot but I am very new to the community. Perhaps I am missing something as I thought my words were constructive and very positive as it relates to the discussion but I did not want to hit the confirm button again without, at least, bringing it up here. If I need to run my comments by an admin prior to posting them that's cool too. I def don't want to break any rules.Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

MassMessage

I'd like to get massmessage sender again, this time for two months with the purpose of sending messages in this list about the Spanish Wikivoyage Contest and other stuffs from our user group. Thanks in advance, --Galahad (sasageyo!)^(esvoy) 10:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Done. Since you had previous access and requested several times, with valid use, I granted it permanently to make it easier for you. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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Report concerning User:86.173.4.164

86.173.4.164 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) — Reasons: vandalism --Uncitoyen^talk 08:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Blocked by 1997kB. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:11, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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Request protect

Indefinite my talk page User talk:MCC214,cross-wiki abuse and LTA My Royal Young sock vandal.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

done-𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 10:49, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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Static IP User Pages

User pages allow people to describe themselves. I believe static IPs, when confirmed static, should be allowed to have them. —-72.65.120.248 9:05pm, 25 August 2020 (Eastern Daylight Time)

They can create an account I suppose. Ruslik (talk) 08:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ruslik0: I guess, but this is shared IP. If Checkuser scan is positive, then they are blocked as a {{Checkuserblock}}. However, we will see what happens. 72.65.120.248 12:02, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Block request

It might be about time to block this IP address. This person seems a bit too hot-tempered for the Request for Comment page he or she is obviously haunting. His/her contributions include harassment irrelevant to the topic itself ("you have become a meme", with links to online bashing pages), which s/he re-inserted after a manual revert, nonsensical vandalism in other people's comments (which s/he again re-added after they were reverted) and name-calling ("Sassenach", a Scottish slur against the English). At any rate, this page should be guarded closely. Since this issue has gone viral, it attracts people with no interest whatsoever in constructive commenting. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 10:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

IP blocked for WM:CIV issues. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Just noting here: the IP is likely to be a proxyserver, masking the real IP of the aforementioned anonymous user. --Wiki13 (talk) 12:09, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Legal threats

Hello! Legal threats were made here (permalink). I am involved in the discussion, and thus unable to act in an administrative capacity. Asking for another sysop to review. Best, Vermont (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't read it as a legal threat. Consulting a lawyer is getting a legal opinion, it is not expressing an action against some(thing|body).  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:41, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Isn't "see what can be done with respect to the gross misconduct ..." an action against someone? --Minorax (talk) 05:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Block request

• 182.18.206.67 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA) - Reason: Vandalism. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker ^(CA) 08:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Already done by Martin Urbanec  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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Requesting deleting of promotional page

The promotional userpage on en-wiki (see here) of a medical doctor has just been deleted under CSD G11 by my fellow admin, 331dot.

Unfortunately User:Drnisamudheen also has a page here on meta which is also unacceptably promotional, and that content now appears by default at en-wiki even though their user page there has been deleted. Thus, hyperlinks to their consultation practice and consultation fees is now visible on en-wiki (and presumably elsewhere, too).

I am unfamiliar with procedures on meta for tagging a page for deletion, so am requesting that an admin here addresses the issue, and removes that page or its contents. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:41, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Re: "I am unfamiliar with procedures on meta for tagging a page for deletion ", normally you just tag it with {{delete}}; that template works on most wikis. PiRSquared17 (talk) 09:42, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Done --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Just to inform we have an abuse filter here which prevents non autopatrolled users to tag other users userpage, I had added autopatrol to your account so you can just do what PiRSquared17 suggested. For non-autopatrolled ready user, the advice is typically to tag the talk page and we will look into it. Thanks for the report. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

OK, many thanks all. Much appreciated. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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