Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Wiktionary/Display definitions from Wikisource dictionaries

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Display definitions from Wikisource dictionaries

• Problem: Wiktionaries aims to offer for each meaning one definition but there are many ways to describe a meaning, many words - including local uses (i.e. an American-centered definition and an Indian-centered one for the same word) and very technical terms sometimes with more or less vulgarized explanations. A synthetic one is a solution, but more than one is better. Some alternative definitions from other dictionaries could be mentioned in the reference section but they are not accessible in Wiktionary and do not add any value to the entries.
• Proposed solution: Wikisources contains a lot of dictionaries and we should use them to display more definitions. A dedicated transclusion of paragraphs from Wikisource in Wiktionaries could be a solution, by hand/bot or with an automatic harvesting of entries with a specific tagging in the dictionaries hosted in Wikisources. They could come from several Wikisources, to be display in several Wiktionaries. It could be a new tab next to "Article" and "Talk", named "Dictionaries" with definition for the same sequence of letters from dictionaries published in Wikisource. For French, I can imagine at least a dozen of definitions from as much dictionaries. For underdescribed languages with at least one source in Wikisource, it could be an interesting way to compare the source and how it evolve after its inclusion in Wiktionary.
• Who would benefit: Readers wanting more than one definition, with different perspective.
• More comments: Some dictionaries are already properly tagged; for the others, it could be a good opportunity to do it accordingly to TEI Lex0 guidelines, so that they can more easily be reused in open source projects. Also, to undermine a tendency when someone talk about Wiktionary: No, Wikidata Lexeme could not be of any help here. This issue is about content and not data or relation. Definitions are under CC BY-SA 3.0 in Wiktionary and in Wikisource dictionaries. This proposal is the same as this proposal in 2022 (24 supports) and this proposal in 2021 (supported by 40 people), this one in 2020 posted by DaraDaraDara (32 supports).
• Phabricator tickets: T240191
• Proposer: Noé (talk) 11:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Voting

•  Support .Anja. (talk) 19:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —2dk (talk) 19:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Xbypass (talk) 20:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 21:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Pamputt (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Ioaxxere (talk) 23:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support NMaia (talk) 00:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Poslovitch (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support EijiroSaito (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Siam2019 (talk) 02:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Tgr (talk) 04:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Exilexi (talk) 09:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Shizhao (talk) 13:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Ignacio Rodríguez (talk) 16:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support We need this… Otourly (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ✒ Bennylin 10:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Error (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Pom445 (talk) 17:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Libcub (talk) 04:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Sadads (talk) 01:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I am very much interested in such a feature. Can this be handled by Wikidata lexemes for multilinguality? Vis M (talk) 06:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

  Wikidata lexemes are not connected with Wiktionaries entries, and entries are not mapped by Wikidata at all, as multilinguality is handled by a MediaWiki module, Cognate. I can't imagine how this idea could include Wikidata, but I am interested to ear your idea on this direction 🙂 Noé (talk) 10:00, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 07:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 04:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Koxinga (talk) 09:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support This should be added as well. Thingofme (talk) 16:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support schurdl (talk) 14:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support — Omegatron (talk) 16:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Korhoj (talk) 02:51, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support cyrfaw (talk) 12:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Morten Haan (talk) 18:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Daniel Case (talk) 05:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)