Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Wiktionary/Display definitions from Wikisource dictionaries
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Display definitions from Wikisource dictionaries
- Problem: Wiktionaries aims to offer for each meaning one definition but there are many ways to describe a meaning, many words - including local uses and very technical terms. Some other definition in other dictionaries may be mentioned as references but they are not accessible in Wiktionary despite being for some of them in Wikisource.
- Who would benefit: Readers wanting more than one definition.
- Proposed solution: Many dictionaries are already in Wikisource and we can use them to offer more definitions. A dedicated transclusion or paragraphs from Wikisource in Wiktionaries could be a solution, by hand/bot or with an automatic harvesting of entries with a specific tagging in the dictionaries hosted in Wikisources. They could come from several Wikisources, to be display in several Wiktionaries. It could be a new tab next to "Article" and "Talk", named "Dictionaries" with definition for the same sequence of letters from dictionaries published in Wikisource. For French, I can imagine at least a dozen of definitions from as much dictionaries. For underdescribed dictionary with at least on source in Wikisource, it could be an interesting way to compare the source and how it evolve after its inclusion in Wiktionary.
- More comments: Some dictionaries are already properly tagged; for the others, it could be a good opportunity to do it accordingly to TEI Lex0 guidelines, so that they can more easily be reused in open source projects. Also, to undermine a tendency when someone talk about Wiktionary: No, Wikidata Lexeme could not be of any help here. It is pure content and not data, and fall under CC BY-SA 3.0 in Wiktionary and for Wikisource dictionaries. This proposal is similar as this proposal posted last year by DaraDaraDara.
- Phabricator tickets: T240191
- Proposer: Noé (talk) 11:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
Voting
- Support — WikiLucas (🖋️) 18:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support マイキ (talk) 19:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Imz (talk) 20:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Pamputt (talk) 21:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Maitake (talk) 23:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support PianistHere (talk) 01:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Ciao • Bestoernesto • ✉ 02:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Kambai Akau (talk) 02:45, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Pamzeis (talk) 02:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support NMaia (talk) 03:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support TSK201911 (talk) 04:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Omda4wady (talk) 07:20, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Pom445 (talk) 07:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Wikinade (talk) 13:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Петър Петров (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Why doesn't it make more sense to put in the legwork of adding definitions to the existing entries? Tyrekecorrea (talk) 18:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 21:15, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Jberkel (talk) 15:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Otourly (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support KaMan (talk) 16:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Lyokoï (talk) 16:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --YaganZ (talk) 18:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support BoldLuis (talk) 18:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Mathieugp (talk) 19:17, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Matlin (talk) 19:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support —Michael Z. 2020-12-11 23:03 z 23:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Fixer88 (talk) 23:04, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Acer11 (talk) 23:39, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support DGG (talk) 00:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Tom Ja (talk) 09:43, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Consulnico (talk) 00:59, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Gelli1742 (talk) 20:21, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 01:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support, but with an eye to turning this into a transwiki definition-import process, per Tyrekecorrea's concern. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 08:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Anonyme314159 (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Natsubee (talk) 00:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Jstalins (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Luan (discussão) 19:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support S8321414 (talk) 14:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Baidax 💬 17:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Also consider using wikisource as an example sentence source. Would be good to have a template for that. Greatder (talk) 04:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)