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Wikipedia logout: Logout confirmation

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Discussion

We already have a gadget for this. See zh:MediaWiki:Gadget-confirm-logout.js.--GZWDer (talk) 23:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How can I install that? Please in language for a non-programmer, so step by step. JopkeB (talk) 09:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is really nothing Wikipedia-specific about this - it's a question of general UI design that applies to most every web site that supports long-term logins. The overwhelming consensus of the web design community--as evidenced by the behavior of web sites in general--seems to be that logouts should not require confirmation. An accidental logout has a simple and obvious affordance for undoing: logging in again. Generally speaking, user interfaces should assume that users are not helpless and that they intend the actions they perform. That's doubly true when an action is benign and easily reversible. NillaGoon (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@NillaGoon: My proposal can be justified on a home computer, where there is no need to log out of the web browser. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 17:43, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Something different about from most other sites I use on a regular basis, is that logging out on one device logs me out on every device. That significantly increases the "cost" of an accidental button press. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:36, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Support SeGiba (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Rtfroot (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Poslovitch (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lt2818 (talk) 04:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Martin-78 ^{(discutailler)} 08:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Arado Ar 196 (talk) 08:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Muted Red Tulip (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Doktor Züm (talk) 09:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Oltrepier (talk) 09:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support —Bruce1ee^talk 09:56, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CaféBuzz (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose --Crosstor (talk) 13:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support no-brainer Femke (talk) 15:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Rots61 (talk) 16:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mbkv717 (talk) 17:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose NillaGoon (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support De nue pw (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nothing too complicated -- sometimes a logout confirmed button is useful. Thingofme (talk) 03:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support MASUM THE GREAT (talk) 06:03, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support HLFan (talk) 07:38, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Syunsyunminmin 🗨️talk 13:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Erbiton (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support With 2FA and multiple devices is accidentally logout painful. JAn Dudík (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I use w:en:User:Fred Gandt/confirmLogout.js, but I think it'd be helpful for all. Sdrqaz (talk) 03:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I think this tool is much needed, but it shouldn't be in a wishlist. NPRB (talk) 14:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Meganinja202 (talk) 14:47, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Ani6032 (talk) 09:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 23:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 12:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 21:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 11:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support IhateixlSTEM (talk) 18:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Packerfan386 (talk) 10:02, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tryvix ^t 10:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's better to make the existing gadget a default gadget. Cryorett (talk) 13:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jotamide (talk) 15:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Niskka2 (talk) 22:22, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think its a bad idea to have ppl click logout, and it then not immediately taking effect. That doesn't match my expectations at all. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:56, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 11:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose Confirmation dialogs are poor UI design, and not logging out when "log out" is pressed is a security vulnerability. — Omegatron (talk) 16:23, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If this proposal is for the 2022 Vector skin, then I would Strongly oppose this. Some1 (talk) 02:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose in addition to the security concerns, this barely saves any time. No point. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 17:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Althair (talk) 04:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support TheDragonFire300 (talk) 13:53, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Minarin ^[talk] 13:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia API: Output also in text or in TSV format

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Discussion

No please, JSON or XML is standard language to work with APIs. --Frettie (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, there are plenty of command-line tools for massaging JSON data (and to a lesser extent, XML as well):

JSON: jq, jd, jo, jql, JSAwk, et al
XML: xq, XMLStarlet

I can sympathise with wanting TSV output (it's far and away the easiest data format to parse and wrangle). It should be trivial to generate TSV output using the aforementioned tools; JQ sports a dedicated option for generating TSV-formatted output. Alhadis (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note that historically, the API supported a text format: txt. It was removed as it was useless: instead of a sensible format as proposed, it instead outputted human-readable debug information. —Mainframe98 _talk 18:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Neutral Although it should be for less-tech-savy users to follow around the guide, it's hard to do so. Thingofme (talk) 02:58, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --cyrfaw (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Auto-merging the identical references in HTML output

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Discussion

On enwiki, this is largely carried out by editors through :en:Wikipedia:reFill or via bot :en:User:Citation bot (the relevant bot task seems disabled though). It would be great to have something similar baked in during the publishing processing. Robertsky (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
reFill can generate lots of errors, which is why it's done manually as the output needs to be checked. ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 21:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
:en:Wikipedia:reFill:

reFill NG is broken for English! Revert to reFill. ,,,, 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 04:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would this be just for visual editor edits? That might be the best way to do it. When editing with VE, the user expects some magic to happen with references. When editing the raw wikicode, the user does not want or expect any magic to happen. They want exactly what they type to be published. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertsky: For only VE? No. The output is not identical to the code. Currently, here are the most violator: phabricator:T246960. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 18:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think you meant to ping @Novem Linguae. Robertsky (talk) 18:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This should be resolved in the source, not in the rendered HTML. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:28, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this seems more appropriate for a bot to fix in source than a behind-the-scenes rendering patch. David Eppstein (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Support Robertsky (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Xbypass (talk) 19:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's not very common, but duplicates do happen. MarMi wiki (talk) 19:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support SeGiba (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tom Ja (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zhanglide (talk) 21:10, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mapatxea (talk) 21:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Significa liberdade (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Joalpe (talk) 21:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Rtfroot (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Magnoliasouth (talk) 22:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Chetvorno (talk) 22:47, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 00:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dupe citations can make it harder for the reader to know who claimed what. LunafreyaLaphicet (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support 26 Ramadan (talk) 01:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support HoHo3143 (talk) 02:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Hehua (talk) 02:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Makes reading seamless Prof Ranga Sai (talk) 03:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support EpicPupper (talk) 05:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 05:34, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Soumendrak (talk) 06:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Doktor Züm (talk) 07:19, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Afernand74 (talk) 07:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Martin-78 ^{(discutailler)} 08:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jeeputer (talk) 08:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Oltrepier (talk) 09:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Remy34 (talk) 09:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support SunDawn (talk) 12:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lion-hearted85 (talk) 13:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support FinixFighter (talk) 15:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support That's not common but duplicates do happen as people don't know the reference has already listed. Thingofme (talk) 15:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Franz.wohlkoenig (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Erfil (talk) 19:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support De nue pw (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think this will help a lot because I sometimes re use identical references in an article daSupremo 22:56, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Auton1 (talk) 23:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gohan 03:43, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Betseg (talk) 03:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support HLFan (talk) 07:09, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Maxwxyz (talk) 12:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lalaithan (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Rickinasia (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support 08:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Support --Abubiju (talk) 16:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support JAn Dudík (talk) 17:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gillum (talk) 17:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Shkif (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 13:39, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wikibach (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support TimTheDragonRider (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 11:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Polarlys (talk) 21:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support El monty (talk) 10:04, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Michka B (talk) 14:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support JFremd (talk) 15:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Silva Selva (talk) 18:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tbartovic (talk) 20:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sikander (talk) 22:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kurmanbek ^💬 16:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dubstar (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 19:46, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dmytro Tvardovskyi (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 15:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support PamD (talk) 23:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support schurdl (talk) 15:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mesidast (talk) 10:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 11:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Korhoj (talk) 02:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Soleil 5 (talk) 15:54, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bnichols23 (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Serieminou (talk) 22:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Chatul (talk) 12:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Takamaxa (talk) 15:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Morten Haan (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fcastillo (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Althair (talk) 04:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Yes, manipulation of citations could be hell. So everything is done programmatically is good. Juandev (talk) 10:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support OGPawlis (talk) 10:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Checksums of files at dumps.wikimedia.org

Edit proposal/discussion

Discussion

Comment: @Dušan Kreheľ: have you seen the checksums at {dump url}-md5sums.txt (linked to at each dump page, e.g. https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20230201/)? — TheresNoTime-WMF (talk • they/them) 14:07, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TheresNoTime-WMF: In this directory tree are none:
- https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pageviews/
- https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pageview_complete/.
Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 14:17, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dušan Kreheľ: Ah yes, thank you for clarifying — TheresNoTime-WMF (talk • they/them) 14:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Support NMaia (talk) 23:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jurbop (talk) 07:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fuxx (talk) 08:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CaféBuzz (talk) 10:31, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Being able to assert download integrity is always a nice-to-have. Alhadis (talk) 12:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bluerasberry (talk) 14:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Conny (talk) 18:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support De nue pw (talk) 22:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Goliv04053 (talk) 00:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support It should also be added. Thingofme (talk) 03:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Error (talk) 13:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 11:20, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kpjas (talk) 07:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 15:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zache (talk) 05:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Hans5958 (talk) 05:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dr vulpes (talk) 06:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]