Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Miscellaneous/Show edit count at Special:Contributions
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Show edit count at Special:Contributions
- Problem: Edit counts are hard to determine unless you know about external tools and user scripts that show this information, or if you explicitly state how many edits you have on your userpage. Attempting to paginate through a user's contributions to count their edits can take a very long time if they have a very high edit count.
- Proposed solution: Show a user's edit count at Special:Contributions, similar to how it is done on mobile web.
- Who would benefit: An editor's edit count can be an indicator of how experienced they are. If somebody who recently edited the page had only 50 edits, an editor would be sure to review the edit with caution, because newer editors will generally mess up more often than experienced editors with 150,000+ contributions. Edit counts can also helpfully determine what kind of editor a person is (e.g. whether an editor edits to add more information to the site, or is a wiki gnome who fixes spelling errors and formatting).
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: T324166
- Proposer: MrMeAndMrMe (talk) 19:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
- Just add this to your global.js and have a look at someone's user page afterwards:
mw.loader.load('https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Amorymeltzer/userinfo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
– The currently easiest built-in way involving no custom scripts is to open Special:CentralAuth/Username and to sort the table by "edit count". ToBeFree (talk) 19:17, 10 January 2022 (UTC)- Thank you for that link. However, I would think that it would be easier for it to be a built-in function instead of that MrMeAndMrMe (talk) 19:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- A reasonable wish. And with MusikAnimal (WMF)'s statement below, one I'll support. ToBeFree (talk) 19:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- This is a reasonable wish, and I think it should be implemented in all installations of MediaWiki. In Wikimedia, we have XTools for viewing the others' edit count, but in wikis with no CentralAuth and XTools like other installations, we can't see others' edit count easily. Thingofme (talk) 02:51, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- A reasonable wish. And with MusikAnimal (WMF)'s statement below, one I'll support. ToBeFree (talk) 19:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for that link. However, I would think that it would be easier for it to be a built-in function instead of that MrMeAndMrMe (talk) 19:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- FYI phab:T32353, phab:T213110, phab:T278506 (and likely many others) have been repeatedly declined due to claimed problems with caching. — xaosflux Talk 19:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Those asked for a magic word to be used in wikitext, which needs to be cacheable. MobileFrontend puts it at Special:Contribs which is not cached in the same way, and we could definitely do the same in native MediaWiki. Showing the system edit count is super cheap too, so I think this proposal is very doable, it would just need minimal design input. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- And it is readily available via the API (example for OP). — xaosflux Talk 19:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Those asked for a magic word to be used in wikitext, which needs to be cacheable. MobileFrontend puts it at Special:Contribs which is not cached in the same way, and we could definitely do the same in native MediaWiki. Showing the system edit count is super cheap too, so I think this proposal is very doable, it would just need minimal design input. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's a good suggestion. It does seem to take a long time (and sometimes X-tool can't see it) when looking at records with a large number of posts, such as Bot. Also, on a related note, I would like to suggest that the difference between registered users and IPs be removed for the following points.In Special:CentralAuth, you can see the registration and permission status for each project, but IPs cannot see the number of posts made.X-tool allows you to see the number of submissions, but there are no links to other projects, so you have to search for each one from the search screen. --211.1.70.190 03:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Viewing CentralAuth's contribution counter is not restricted to logged-in users. ToBeFree (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Why we can't easily view the number of IP edits? We can use a special page like
Special:GlobalContributions/(the IP address)
to do this. Thingofme (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)- IP edit counts most likely won't happen in production, for performance reasons. XTools counts the actual number of revisions, what you might consider more exacting, and that's why it's slower. MediaWiki's "system" edit count is a running tally that is incremented on every edit, meaning we can query for it very quickly. However it is only applied to registered users (who have a row in the
user
table), and what constitutes an edit has changed over time, which is why it could be considered approximate. More info at mw:Special:MyLanguage/XTools/Edit Counter#Edit counts. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- IP edit counts most likely won't happen in production, for performance reasons. XTools counts the actual number of revisions, what you might consider more exacting, and that's why it's slower. MediaWiki's "system" edit count is a running tally that is incremented on every edit, meaning we can query for it very quickly. However it is only applied to registered users (who have a row in the
- Why we can't easily view the number of IP edits? We can use a special page like
- Viewing CentralAuth's contribution counter is not restricted to logged-in users. ToBeFree (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- It would be better also if the edit count of a user is visible on diffs, so if the editor edited an article, we may wish to see his edit on diffs and if edit count of that user is there, it's easy to identify if the user has enough experience in editing. Just in the mobile version. Ctrlwiki (talk) 06:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Voting
- Support -As proposer MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 19:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support I often want to see how many contributions I have made, and going to the Settings tab, despite as easy as going to the Contributions tab, is weird because the reasonable place you would search your number of contributions for is the Contributions tab, not the Settings one. Great proposal. EDITHIDEC (talk) 19:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 19:45, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 21:34, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Tol (talk | contribs) @ 22:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Huji (talk) 01:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support --𝑇𝑚𝑣 (𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘) 01:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Arado Ar 196 (talk) 11:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak support — ElioPrrl (talk) 11:25, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Aca (talk) 13:42, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support — SHEIKH (Talk) 13:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support BSMIsEditing (talk) 15:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Useful for patrollers, admins, etc. — Jules* Talk 18:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Helen(💬📖) 19:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Waddles 🗩 🖉 21:15, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support ToBeFree (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Also it can be shown on userpage 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 23:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Agus Damanik (talk) 02:25, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support No problem Thingofme (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support daSupremo 04:21, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support not necessary, but useful JAn Dudík (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Malarz pl (talk) 21:05, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Useful. Glerium (talk) 12:39, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Wargo (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support But I think this should be an option, not a default. Daniel Case (talk) 22:41, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support KingAntenor (talk) 06:36, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Baokhang48812002 (talk) 13:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Hampcky (talk) 15:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Rdrozd (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Paucabot (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support WikiAviator (talk) 15:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support – Ammarpad (talk) 11:03, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Rzuwig► 12:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Whisperjanes (talk) 16:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Darwin Ahoy! 19:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:41, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support — 07 ● 💬 22:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support ·addshore· talk to me! 22:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support NightWolf1223 (talk) 23:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support —— Eric Liu(Talk) 05:51, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose: waste of time for the Wishlist team. Low priority task with minor impact. Edit count is not often important information. — Bilorv (talk) 11:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bilorv It generally yes, when the subject is vandalism. - Darwin Ahoy! 14:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- If the subject is vandalism then contribution history will be the main information required to establish the situation, and running XTools will not significantly increase the time spent analysing the user's contributions. — Bilorv (talk) 17:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bilorv It generally yes, when the subject is vandalism. - Darwin Ahoy! 14:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support —Thanks for the fish! talk•contrib (he/him) 21:39, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support--Vulp❯❯❯here! 04:23, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Ayumu Ozaki (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose --Ciao • Bestoernesto • ✉ 17:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 22:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Brewster239 (T·C·CA) 10:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Nave do Conhecimento (talk) 11:57, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support paul2520 (talk) 14:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support ~Cybularny Speak? 20:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Rots61 (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Nehaoua (talk) 15:59, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support --evrifaessa (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 17:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)