Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Multimedia and Commons/SVG-Translate

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SVG-Translate

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Problem: You have a svg-file in a different language and want to use it, but you don't know how to edit SVG-Files (You can't handle SourceCode, Inkscape has to be installed,...).

Who would benefit: User who adds Images to articles, but are not familiar with SVG-editing

Proposed solution: The Tool https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgtranslate/ is able to do that, but the download/upload isn't working.

More comments: A such tool was in wide usage up to 2009, but lost its maintainer and app authorization.

Phabricator tickets: phab:T56214

Proposer: JoKalliauer (talk) 10:23, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Translations: none yet

Discussion

+1 : this tool is a corner stone of commons as it allows SVG images' translations by non-graphists. Yet, this tool isn't maintained, the OATH got broken years ago. Need a refresh. --Yug (talk) 23:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is also mw:Extension:TranslateSvg that is also currently unmaintained. –Nikerabbit (talk) 08:38, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikerabbit: mw:Extension:TranslateSvg/2.0 is the "current" version, and it has the same Author (@Jarry1250:) as https://tools.wmflabs.org/jarry-common/. — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would maintain the tool (I think I'm good enough with coding.), but I'm not familiar how to use Toolforge, and I might need help sometimes. — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have serious doubts. Actually, text rendering in SVG files is poor. I generally transform text in a path in a different layer, in order to have a correct visualisation (and leave the text layer hidden). --Ruthven (talk) 19:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ruthven: I completely understand your opinion. Simple Files like File:Double-slit_de.svg or File:Poutre_definitions_de.svg can easy be translated without worrying that the text might get too long. If you edit maps text alignment is very important. I am working in the German graphics lab and for me it is easier to have a fully translated SVG (by a newbie/wikipedian with mw:Extension:TranslateSvg/2.0 SVG-Translate) and just edit the alignment, than to find the translation of each word and then align it. Real Text in SVGs can be problematic (f.e. File:Route_der_Flugzeugentführung_-_Landshut_-_KEBVersion.svg).

Anyway, it happens very often that English Pictures are used on German, Chinese, ... Wikipedias (f.e File:Moody_EN.svg de:Molekulare_Monte-Carlo-Methode#Quantum-Monte-Carlo-Methode), therefore a translation would in general be an improvement. (I personally would prefer that the Tool adds a language switch. (f.e. File:Sprinkler_glass_bulbs.svg)) — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I really like the lang switch! That's the most semantic way to do this, and also improves maintenance because different language versions are still the same file. -- Christallkeks (talk) 12:49, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Support MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 19:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ainali (talk) 21:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Strainu (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support We can use the Translate extension with data generated from every SVG for that Aktron (talk) 13:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pepe piton (talk) 15:27, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Support — Luchesar • T/C 21:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 22:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support But I would prefer the mw:Extension:TranslateSVG MediaWiki extension be deployed. Bawolff (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jules78120 (talk) 00:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent plan! I am using SVG on Commons only. I have no use for inkscape and such. Yeah, would be nice to have. Hedwig in Washington (talk) 02:52, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Support A++ Gryllida 01:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support SVG gurus think SVG is easy for everyone and it is not. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 07:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Support Carnildo (talk) 00:21, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Together with bug-free font rendering, this could make text in SVGs so much more attractive Christallkeks (talk) 12:46, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Micru (talk) 20:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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