Talk:Wikimedians for Sustainable Development/Climate translation project
Add topicEnabling Content Translation extension?
[edit]I am interested in this project. But I already failed to execute Step 1: "then enabling the Content Translation extension". I couldn't find that in "Preferences", where is it? Please make the description more dummy proof if you can. EMsmile (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- It's all the way on the bottom on the tab Beta features. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 07:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know what is wrong, but I can neither find the Content Translation extension at the bottom on the Beta tab. But I have it on my svwp page. Is that enough?Ahi-nama (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe it is enough to have it enabled on the project you want to translate to. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 08:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know what is wrong, but I can neither find the Content Translation extension at the bottom on the Beta tab. But I have it on my svwp page. Is that enough?Ahi-nama (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Content translation tools
[edit]I am confused because I came across this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_translation_tool which basically is saying don't use content translation tools (or you can only use it as an experienced Wikipedian?). What does that mean for this climate translation project? EMsmile (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- That's the policy for translation to English. Each target language might have different policies (and usually they don't have one specifically for the tool). ♥Ainali talkcontributions 07:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Translate content from other languages to English
[edit]Also, does the project's scope also include translating content from other language versions to English? In some cases (perhaps rare), content might be more extensive in other language versions and could be "imported" and translated to the English version articles? EMsmile (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- It could for sure. What has been done here is that a few articles have been vetted so that the lead section is really suitable for translation - by itself. If someone does the same for other languages I see no reason they couldn't be used as a source. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 07:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Guide for translateble articles
[edit]@Gnom and Sadads: It's probably useful to publish some guide or criteria for which articles are suitable for translation, or perhaps even a process for adding them, so that all that gets added have the same hgh standard. . ♥Ainali talkcontributions 14:59, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Ainali: So we were reading them for:
- International English
- Well written survey of the content of the article that represents a global perspective
- References or footnotes for key statements about the topic, so that they can go with the article.
- It wasn't super scientific, but we ended up with a very clear set of very similar leads, Sadads (talk) 16:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Sadads: Yes, and the reason why I raised it is that the latest addition to the list is not as similar as the others, and that some guides on the page could help keeping them more alike. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 17:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, added to the page. --Gnom (talk) 08:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Sadads: Yes, and the reason why I raised it is that the latest addition to the list is not as similar as the others, and that some guides on the page could help keeping them more alike. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 17:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Availability of sources
[edit]When writing good lead sections, bear in mind that some language projects (like Swedish Wikipedia) has a policy that all sources must be checked manually when translating articles. Thus the lead sections should favor easily available sources that are online and not behind a paywall. ♥Ainali talkcontributions 08:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Climate denial and translation
[edit]Hi all. I was wondering if there are any native speakers here / in your networks that could help tackle climate denial with translations.
BBC journalist Marco Silva found denial in quite a few Wikipedia versions. Per personal communication, Wikipedia versions with denial include Chinese, Romanian, Swahili, Croatian, Mongolian, Japanese, Belarusian, Kazakh, and Bosnian (Google Translate versions to English). A related discussion can be found on enwiki. I find it quite worrying that this happens even on moderate big Wikipedia versions (Japanese and Chinese). Femkemilene (talk) 09:09, 27 November 2021 (UTC)