Talk:WikiFocus
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The project is essentially devoted to outing and will therefore never be a sister project.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- This is a blatantly wrong statement. The project is NOT and was NEVER devoted to outing. On the contrary, outing is forbidden there, and we care of accurate description of living people in order to avoid causing any harm to them. (Yaroslav, I asked you three times, and ask you once more, could you please please please please stop to harass me: recently you attacked me at Wikidata - now you came here to write incorrect statements.) However, I would like to mention, that I don't care of transferring the project to WMF at all - it's up to community to decide, I will just follow it. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 22:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well, if you do not understand what outing is it does not make the statement incorrect. And I am not harassing you. Concerning Wikidata, you came with five edits, zero of them in the main space, and started to explain Zanka, who had thousands of edits and was an editor in good standing, and since then was voted administrator, how she should behave on that project and that she must follow the community wishes - even if she never ever before indicated that she would not, and she enjoys a broad community support. If you do not understand that remarks of somebody who is not doing anything directed at people who are hard working, teaching them how to work, are extremely unwelcome - this is your problem, and if you still have not understood why you were admonished several times by the Arbitration Committee - this is your problem as well, and actually the same one. Start working instead of teaching other how to work - may be then users will be willing to listen to what you are saying. Concerning WikiFocus - well, you perfectly know that on Wikipedia, keeping lists of policy breaches per user is outing and is a blockable offence, and in the past you indicated that you would like some users to be ex-communicated because they were keeping these lists. (What about this, by the way?) Now you needed you own policy breach list, and you decided to found your own project for that, even though you were repeatedly told that this is strictly speaking illegal in Russia. I am not going to undertake legal action myself, but there is no way this project can be part of WMF.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep farther away from trolling and personal attacks, pls. Ignatus (talk) 10:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I do not think I am trolling. You certainly are, just popping out from nowhere.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I am sorry, but you are really trolling. And excuse me, but disrespect to Vladimir is not argument for negative vote. Your disrespect to Drbug has mentioned in WikiFocus with neutral point of view and without original research. --Maxtirdatov (talk) 11:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- The authorities have been notified.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- About what? --Maxtirdatov (talk) 11:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- The authorities have been notified.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I am sorry, but you are really trolling. And excuse me, but disrespect to Vladimir is not argument for negative vote. Your disrespect to Drbug has mentioned in WikiFocus with neutral point of view and without original research. --Maxtirdatov (talk) 11:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- And critising someone on-wiki for on-wiki activity is not a personal attack per se.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- When a critics is incorrect, persistent and doesn't follow the topic of discussion, it's surely an attack, especially if one "criticizes" alone. I kindly ask you once more to stop mentioning and commenting me. Otherwise, I guess, next time I will have to appeal to community/sysops for protection. Thank you for understanding! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 21:53, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- The critique is correct and does follow the topic. And I am not alone. Basically you got four Arbcoms telling you the same thing. You just do not hear whatever you do not want to hear.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- When a critics is incorrect, persistent and doesn't follow the topic of discussion, it's surely an attack, especially if one "criticizes" alone. I kindly ask you once more to stop mentioning and commenting me. Otherwise, I guess, next time I will have to appeal to community/sysops for protection. Thank you for understanding! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 21:53, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- I do not think I am trolling. You certainly are, just popping out from nowhere.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep farther away from trolling and personal attacks, pls. Ignatus (talk) 10:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Vladimir, he did not even mention you in his initial statement. Isn't it what Hanlon's razor was about ? AstroNomer-ru (talk) 21:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well, if you do not understand what outing is it does not make the statement incorrect. And I am not harassing you. Concerning Wikidata, you came with five edits, zero of them in the main space, and started to explain Zanka, who had thousands of edits and was an editor in good standing, and since then was voted administrator, how she should behave on that project and that she must follow the community wishes - even if she never ever before indicated that she would not, and she enjoys a broad community support. If you do not understand that remarks of somebody who is not doing anything directed at people who are hard working, teaching them how to work, are extremely unwelcome - this is your problem, and if you still have not understood why you were admonished several times by the Arbitration Committee - this is your problem as well, and actually the same one. Start working instead of teaching other how to work - may be then users will be willing to listen to what you are saying. Concerning WikiFocus - well, you perfectly know that on Wikipedia, keeping lists of policy breaches per user is outing and is a blockable offence, and in the past you indicated that you would like some users to be ex-communicated because they were keeping these lists. (What about this, by the way?) Now you needed you own policy breach list, and you decided to found your own project for that, even though you were repeatedly told that this is strictly speaking illegal in Russia. I am not going to undertake legal action myself, but there is no way this project can be part of WMF.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)