Talk:Tech/Server switch/Archive

Conflicted first and third person usage

The usage of "they" in the following paragraphs makes it sound as if someone else is executing the server switch.

They will switch all traffic to the secondary data centre on Tuesday, September 1st 2020.

In the next paragraph, the usage of "we" conflicts this.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while we switch.

It would be nice if we avoid this conflict.

-- Kaartic ^{correct me, if i'm wrong} 18:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing it, @Kaartic. I hope you've unified it in your translation.

I'm going to change the source text, but without marking translations as obsolete. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 18:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I hadn't unified it to then to keep the translation consistent with the source. I've fixed it now. -- Kaartic ^{correct me, if i'm wrong} 18:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Outdated schedule link

The read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org link in the last paragraph links to wikitech:Switch_Datacenter#Schedule_for_2018_switch which only has a schedule for the 2018 switch. Could someone update that page to have an up-to-date schedule or point the link to somewhere where that can be seen. Thanks. – Majavah ^{talk/contribs/sul} 08:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Majavah, I'm waiting for the update from the Operations team. Updating this link will be invisible for translators. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Done! Trizek (WMF) (talk) 18:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Somehow all mass messages had the wrong year (example, another). – Majavah ^{talk/contribs/sul} 14:31, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

This was not supposed to happen, apparently we have an issue with the replication of these changes. However, the link goes to the right page and the important information is at the top of it. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 15:01, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Physical place

Physically from where to where? From Texas to Amsterdam? --Gereon K. (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gereon K.: The primary data center is eqiad in Ashburn, Virginia and the secondary is codfw in Dallas, Texas. – Majavah ^{talk/contribs/sul} 08:09, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

What happened?

What happened? Did this just not happen for some reason or what? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. EstrellaSuecia (talk) 14:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@EstrellaSuecia, it happen faster than expected. :) Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, that's great! Thanks for the reply. / EstrellaSuecia (talk) 14:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Update of translations needed

@David1010, Joris Darlington Quarshie, Daud I.F. Argana, Rachmat04, RXerself, DaSupremo, Robby, Mainframe98, Tagasalinero, Kumincir, Justinianus, ToprakM, Papapep, Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco, CharlesWiki, Maria zaos, Xabier Cid, Koreanovsky, Nesmir Kudilovic, Bikarhêner, Malikxan, Liridon, Mrs.Nerd.Girl, Sabelöga, Renessaince, Redaktor, JogiAsad, HitomiAkane, Lancine.kounfantoh.fofana, Nirmal Dulal, Minorax, संजीव कुमार, Archana Mathur, and Path slopu:
Dear translators! Thank you for working on translation of this message earlier! Could you please take several minutes and update it now? It has changed a little since August. The message will be delivered in a few days, so it's rather important that you have a look at it. Thank you! Best regards -- Ата ^(talk) 10:21, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Ата:, thanks for the ping! I will see what I can do! :) --Koreanovsky (talk) 10:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that ping, @Ата:. Updates are made, greetings from Turkey :) --justinianus 10:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ата: thanks for the ping, Done for Egyptian Wikipedia. HitomiAkane (talk) 10:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Tech/Server switch 2020/nl. —Mainframe98 _talk 11:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Done I do believe I'm finished with my Swedish translation. Sabelöga (talk) 12:27, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Georgian Done--David1010 (talk) 13:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ата: thanks for the ping, Done for Hausa Wikipedia. DaSupremo (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Kurdish translation. Thanks for ping. -- Bikarhêner (talk) 17:18, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Luxembourgian translation. Thanks for ping. Robby (talk) 17:30, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Nepali translation. Thanks for ping. --Nirmal Dulal (talk) 06:41, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Indonesian. Best, ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 06:45, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Ата! Done for Uzbek. Thanks for ping. :) Malikxan ^talk 07:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for taking this initiative, Ата! :D Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ата, Koreanovsky, Justinianus, HitomiAkane, Mainframe98, Sabelöga, DaSupremo, Bikarhêner, Robby, Nirmal Dulal, Rachmat04, and Malikxan:, -- thank you all for your help! This is greatly appreciated!

Have you checked on the messages for the banner? Thanks! Trizek (WMF) (talk) 11:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Egyptian translation. Thanks for ping. HitomiAkane (talk) 12:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Luxembourgian translation. Thanks for ping.Robby (talk) 13:38, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Indonesian. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Done for Croatian. Special thanks to @Ivi104:! --Koreanovsky (talk) 11:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Things about 2021 should be in 2021

Why don't create Tech/Server switch 2021 or some thing instead of just adding things here? The title would be misleading; And it's definitely not appropriate to just overwrite old archive with new content, right? —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 06:17, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

The plan is to rename the page and all sub pages to remove the date. To be done soon! Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

So is this rename/history preserving plan ongoing? It seems that no subpages had been created yet. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 07:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

The page has already been renamed to be date-agnostic. We keep history of previous server switches in the page history itself. This way, we don't need to copy all the content at each switch and ask translators to redo the work at every event. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:18, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Date (2021 switch back)

@Trizek (WMF): This newsletter states that the server switch will be on September 13, and thus there will be a code freeze that week (i.e. Sep 13–17). However, the train blocker task for next week (Sep 6–10) is closed as “declined”, while the the train blocker task for the week after (Sep 13–17) is open. Based on these tasks, I’d guess the server switch is next week, not the week after. So when will it happen? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 00:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your question, Tacsipacsi. The schedule set the priority for the server switch. I'm asking. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 11:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Tacsipacsi, hopefully you spotted this change. I just updated the message accordingly. Thank you very much! Trizek (WMF) (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Proper translated category

Should'nt it be like [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation technical notices{{#translation:}}]] instead of just not showing in translated version? —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 08:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Typo

@Trizek (WMF) there's an error in the text. It says "March 1 2022" bit it should be 2023. --Mannivu · ✉ 20:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Fixed, thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Is the date format OK?

I don't know about other languages, but for Finnish the current date format doesn't work, and I don't know how to fix it. The basic format would be "1. maaliskuuta (2023)", but I see "1 maaliskuun (2023)" which doesn't make sense. kyykaarme (talk) 15:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting it, @Kyykaarme, as I can fix it for next messages.

Is the format D. M (Y) valid for all days, or do you have some exceptions?

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I did some spying and from the Tech news/fi code I found that it should be j. F"ta" Y. kyykaarme (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Kyykaarme. I made the changes, let me know if it is better now. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Why on Bot Requests

Why Your wiki will be in read-only soon was distributed on Bot Requests or Bots? Bean49 (talk) 10:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I believe it is sent to Distribution list/Bots so that bot-operators are not surprised by the read-only time, if they don't read the announcements elsewhere (Tech News, Village Pump). From a glance at the page-history, the Huwiki target was changed a few months ago. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

But it seems that this time it was posted only on the Bots discussion page, at least in my wiki (Finnish WP). Previously it was posted both in the News and in the Bots discussion page, and now only in the Bots page. I never even noticed that it was posted in the Bots discussion page because it's not on my watchlist. Where could one change the target page for this particular message? IMO it's unnecessary to post it in two places and the News page is not ideal, the Tech discussion would be better. kyykaarme (talk) 16:16, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

The target list is chosen by the person who distributes the list, you cannot directly change that (only the lists themselves). Looking at the logs, it was distributed to Distribution list/Bots and Distribution list/Non-Technical Village Pumps distribution list, but not to Distribution list/Technical Village Pumps distribution list (which contains the technical VP of fiwiki) – maybe it’s still not too late to send it to the latter as well? (By the way, the huwiki change was definitely for the worth, the noticeboard is what’s actually read by people.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:13, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the information! I'll wait in case the message "appears" in an appropriate forum and if not, I'll post it myself manually, probably later today. kyykaarme (talk) 06:00, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

We expect the code deployments to happen as[sic] any other week

Are you sure this is "as", and not "at"? Just want to confirm, hehe. Im Zayk (talk) 14:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Im Zayk, "We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week" is a short for "We expect the code deployments to happen [the same way] as any other week". :)

Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 15:59, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh! Noted; I'll revised my translation ASAP. Thanks for the clarification! Im Zayk (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Data centre switch

Can't this be made seamless? Rich Farmbrough. 22:30 21 September 2024 (GMT). 22:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

I've been told that it is the ultimate goal, but it takes time and effort. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 15:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Ok thank you

The wikis are turning read–only mode i know that a few wikis are turning read–only mode. Jjsjsjshhs (talk) 22:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)