Talk:List of Wikipedias by speakers per article

It's 4.7 million speakers of Norwegian. We are 4.5 million people here in Norway, som 4.3 million is unreasonable.[1] NorwegianMarcus 10:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to update this page more often? --Postrach 16:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you please help me in placing Samogitian wikipedia statistical table here? I ahve placed it there, but it just don't look right. Tomas from Samogitia.

The statistics looks crippled after update!! For example Esperanto has twice as little alleged speakers than Norwegian, and almost the same number of articles (not twice as little). Nonetheless, Norwegian is rated higher as Esperanto. Why? Alaudo 23:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Could you please add the number of users, it would be usefull !--Jauclair 17:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Fresh generation

A more up to date generation of this table would be interesting, and is needed if this page can continue to be at all accurate; the currently displayed data is five months old. ----Anonymous Dissident^Talk 16:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Improving the usability of the stats

For artificial languages like Volapük and Esperanto, instead of the "x" wouldn't it make sense to assume that there are at least as many speakers as there are registered users?

On antother note, the column sort function is meaningless in the numerical columns as it sorts alphabetically rather than numerically. StaySeven 01:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I changed the "?" for Latin and Simple English to 0, which fixes the alphabetic sort. Apparently, it only sorts numerically if all the data in the column is in fact numeric.era 15:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Missing languages

I don't find here Sater Frisian (stq) and North Frisian (frr), although both have over 1.000 articles. --Pyt 15:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

That's because only languages with over 10,000 articles are listed. --Iketsi 18:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

How about "Articles per 1000 speakers" ?

Wouldn't it be more logical to put it that way instead of "Speakers per article"? Because, for instance, more often the number of articles increases than there are changes of the number of speakers... --Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven 13:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I had the same idea a few days ago, so I added a column called Articles per speaker --Iketsi 18:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Volapuk language conflict

How come are there 200 Volapuk speakers and about 10000 registered users? --Stultiwikia^{text me} 19:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

A user is someone who opened a page in Volapük at least once. An account is created automatically and the number doesn't mean anything relevant. Look at Active users instead, for a list of those who contributed at least once in the past 30 days. Volapük usually has around 50-60 active users these days. -Iketsi 20:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

@Iketsi: So if I opened main page of Volapük Wikipedia then I am considered as an user there? Should not it be counted based on where the user registered his passport/account etc. which is their mother wiki? If not then I would at least except stats of "List of Wikipedia by number of users per registration at this wiki" or "Wikipedias wchich are the most often mother Wikipedia for user", not " most viewed Wikipedias". Regards. Dawid2009 (talk) 14:02, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dawid2009: Correct. The moment you access any page on the Volapük Wikipedia while logged in, a user account is created for you automatically. You could think of the "Users" statistic as "the number of logged in users who ever accessed a given Wikipedia edition." You can find a user's "mother wiki" using the Global account information page (just sort by Edit Count), but this information is not readily available as a global statistic per wiki, as far as I know. It also doesn't necessarily mean much. This page is first and foremost a List of Wikipedias by speakers per article – the other columns just contain generic information from the wikis' Statistics pages. --Iketsi (talk) 15:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Automatic update of the list

Is there any way to make the updates of the list automatic? I mean, to be faster, because this list is no longer true, and there are special TAGs that say you the number of articles one Wikipedia has. Example: Wikipedia:10 wikipedia con más artículos --Living001 07:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Done! --Iketsi 00:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Articles/thousand speakers

Hello. I was wondering it is would be okay to change the column "Articles per speaker" to "Articles per thousand speakers". This would allow most values to be displayed with an integer in the front instead of a string of decimals, which can be more difficult to decipher. For example, this would allow us to display "9.2" instead of "0.0092". This may also allow us to display more significant figures, if we choose to do so. Thank you for your consideration. --Tea with toast 21:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Uncorrect count of Malagasy speakers

The total number of Malagasy displayed here is 1.4 million, which is ridiculously small ! Antananarivo itself at least 2 million inhabitants at the time I put this message. All Madagascar does speak Malagasy which make at least 20 million speakers, not 1.4 million. I have made a correction . --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 23:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

One more list needed

List of Wikipedias by speakers per edits.

As there is a strong correlation between the depth of Wikipedia and the number of edits, it would be interesting to compose an appropriate table. --Perohanych (talk) 09:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Sort

Sorting column "speakers" does not work very well (whatever the direction) --Sacamol (talk) 14:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Scottish Gaelic

Has been over 10,000 for a while, but does not appear on here. I suspect it's not the only one.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:28, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

updates

Added several languages, which recently reached 10,000 articles. The list in in need of a fresh sort. I would reverse the initial sort order so that the highest number of speakers per article comes first.

It is a bigger project, and perhaps controversial, but i suggest changing the speakers numbers to native, or first language speakers. These numbers are easier to find, are more reliable, and give a better indication of the primary users of a given wikipedia. Bcharles (talk) 00:51, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Number of speakers of Latin

This article shows the number of speakers of all languages but Latin. Is there any estimate of the number of Latin speakers? --Zevlag (talk) 23:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Taraškievica Belarusian error.

According to the list, Taraškievica Belarusian has 0 articles, creating an error about the number of speakers per article, when that Wikipedia has actually over 50 thousand articles. --Zevlag (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Already fixed. 92.60.179.220 16:28, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Edits per Speakers

How about a column 'edits per speakers'? 134.130.182.31 02:55, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata as source for number of speakers

Ethnologue appears to now be pay-walling access to the statistics about number of speakers (e.g. https://www.ethnologue.com/language/arg), so I guess we need a replacement source. I also notice that this column (and the columns that make calculations based on that number) needs to be manually updated.

I wonder if we could use Wikidata to solve this? e.g. {{#invoke:Wikidata|formatStatementsE|item=Q8765|property=p1098}} = 8500 (from Aragonese (Q8765)). It appears to work correctly if I preview an edit with that code replacing the plaintext. Although it formats the numbers in the Speakers column without decimal separators (e.g. commas) and I'm not sure how to fix that? Thoughts? Quiddity (talk) 06:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

 Support. Since ethnologue.com is now paywalled, we need a replacement. WikiData has the numbers and it even seems more accurate. For german language wikidata:Q188 gives 105 million native speakers, where ethnologue.com gives 78 million. --Alex42 (talk) 18:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

 Support Current source does not give data for Oldenglish, Latin and Classical Chineese (should be coutable if Simple English has data), also Indonesian language most likely got wrong data per my comment Below. Dawid2009 (talk)

No speakers of Latin?

Since the definition, for numbers of speakers per article, says "as first or second language", there should certainly be a figure for Latin. I know that because I'm one: Latin was my second language. The school I went to was certainly not unique: the numbers must be significant. As for me, I'm not offended to be left out :) I know very well that the statistics have to be found somewhere, and whether anyone has counted how many people learned Latin as second language, or use it currently as second language, I have no idea. Andrew Dalby (talk) 08:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Broken table

Change [2] triggers a bug in lua-code Module:AutosortTable which is missing a nil-check. Ipr1 (talk) 22:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding Bengali

Here's the links, since I am not familiar with source editing:

https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language

https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE_%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B7%E0%A6%BE

Speaker: from ethnologue

"159,000,000 in Bangladesh, all users. L1 users: 130,000,000 in Bangladesh (2017). L2 users: 29,000,000 (2017). Total users in all countries: 267,653,920 (as L1: 228,651,040; as L2: 39,002,880)."

Article: 104,428 Total: 905,300 Statistics: 4,925,507 Admin: 12 User: 320,557 Active user: 1254 File list: 12,613 Depth:320 --Greatder (talk) 12:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

OK, I have been able to add some stuff. But it seems like'বাংলা' has disambiguation so I used 'বাংলা ভাষা' instead. If anybody can fix that it would be great :) --Greatder (talk) 12:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Catalan speakers update

On the list appears Catalan with 7,2M speakers, by a local study, there's more than 13,4M of people that understands the language but the proper estimation that really can speak it is slighty more than 10M in 2018 data. Major local daily media have similar data: (EP) (LV) (E.A) (Ara) (Catalan). I think we can modify the list with the corresponding calculations.--Manlleus (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Can we have a numbered list please?

@Verdy p: Can we have a numbered list please? Also the first three should be removed imho: if we don't know the 'number of speakers' then they doesn't fit the bill / criteria. Thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

en:languages of Indonesia

I found that very surprising that in that ranking Indonesian Wikipedia is ahead of IJapanese even thought Indonesian wiki still has far less articlesthan JAwiki. According to this list Indonesian has +20 mln speakers, less than Malay and Javanese.

We should find consensus how Hindustani/Malay-malay should be counted and how we should count languages with many non-native speakers like French, Indonesian, Swahili etc.. Neverthless any criteria where Indonesian Wiki is currently ahead of Japanese in terms of "articles per speakers" should be find as wrong and surprising IMHO. Regards. Dawid2009 (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion to add more languages

Hello I exepted to obviously find on the list en:Odia Wikipedia... Odiya is one of the most speaken languages in the world. Dawid2009 (talk) 22:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Why are the number of articles for Cantonese (yue) and Min Nan (nan) -1?

That looks like an error. For yue, shouldn't it be 142,636?

As shown here: https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E7%B5%B1%E8%A8%88 https://1-zh--yue-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:%E7%B5%B1%E8%A8%88?_x_tr_enc=1&_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Or 142,601, as shown here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias Eannaj (talk) 23:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)