Jump to content

Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Thao

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
submitted verification final decision

This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Thao language (ssf) has for a time been classified as extinct by SIL, but is now recognized as a living language again. Therefore it is verified as eligible. --MF-W 01:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ssf (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Thao Language name in English
Language name Thau a lalawa Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q676492 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
Project name "Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Asia/Taipei "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

[edit]

I've notice that some Thao editors are quite active these days. For the Wikipedia project, they've already have their Incubator to update there. And now it seems they also try to build their Wiktionary at the same time. I am here to request for them to create their Incubator for Wiktionary.

Thank you.

Iyumu (talk) 09:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

[edit]

@Iyumu: About 3 years ago, a Wikipedia request about Thao was rejected because "SIL now categorizes this language as extinct. In that case, the language needs to meet the stricter standards for eligibility of extinct and historical languages, and Thao does not. Project can remain on Incubator." are you willing to make responses to it? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Comment currently ancient languages are not eligible for new wikis. I have submit request for comment requesting to change this policy and to start allowing ancient languages. Feel free to sign your support here. Thanks in advance, -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 11:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gifnk dlm 2020: Canvassing? Also I'm discussion the Thao itself, not your RFC, see what Prosfilaes answered you about "you can also learn Middle English, Ancient Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Ancient Egyptian, etc..." --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226: I thought that if it’s an extinct language they might be interested in this. I will check out this reply right away. -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 12:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Liuxinyu970226: Hi! I would like support both Wikipedia and Wiktionary of Thao too. But for now, do you have any suggestion for us? Thank you.Ripunn (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One recent information on this topic: SIL change request 2021-028 is adopted, the iso639-3:ssf for Thao is changed its type back to Living. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]