Requests for new languages/Wikisource Malay

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been approved. The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project. A committee member provided the following comment: Approved on 2024-04-20. Cf. Special:Permalink/26641518#Notification about proposed approval of Malay Wikisource. --MF-W 07:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC) phabricator:T363039[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	ms (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Malay	Language name in English
Language name	Bahasa Melayu	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q9237 - item has currently the following values: English label: Malay native label (P1705): Bahasa Melayu instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, macrolanguage, modern language, language, standard language, literary language, human language / Malayan Wikimedia language code (P424): ms writing system (P282): Malay alphabet, Jawi, Latin script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 77,000,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links	Malay Wikipedia	Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	ms.wikisource.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikisumber	"Wikisource" in your language
Project namespace	Wikisumber	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Perbincangan Wikisumber	"Wikisource talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	File:Wikisource-logo-ms.svg	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Kuala Lumpur	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces	Ruang nama tambahan (Additional namespaces) : "Laman" (Page) "Perbincangan laman" (Page talk) "Indeks" (Index) "Perbincangan indeks" (Index talk) "Pengarang" (Author) "Perbincangan pengarang" (Author talk) "Terjemahan" (Translation) "Perbincangan terjemahan" (Translation talk).	For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

This is a proposal for a new Wikisource project in Malay. There is a localized main page in the multilingual wikisource, though not currently maintained. There are lots of historical and important Malay documents that can be digitized. We have done a bit of work, see oldwikisource:Perlembagaan Persekutuan Malaysia (Constitution of Malaysia). Aviator 20:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Arguments in favour

We must have wikisource ms, because we need other wikipedia community languages to know that our language wiki is very productive. It is also important, to enrich our Malay language wiki so that other wiki community too will know our beautiful and colourful Malay language culture. So that's why we must have wikisource ms! ASAP. — Imran Al-Sahih 16:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly support the creation. Didie 03:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing can go against the creation of Wikisource Malay! Izzudin 23:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nothin? An insufficient project in the Incubator will do the trick. GerardM 09:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I support this. Putera Luqman Tunku Andre 09:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support Azmi1995 12:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, current number of sources in Malay on the Old Wikisource is 200++. It's time to create its own Wiki. --Kurniasan 19:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support--法尔汉 Aplikasi 14:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support --5662595lai (talk) 08:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

~~I DID NOT SUPPORT!!!~~.. kidding ngehehe Izzudin 23:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Only 37 pages on oldwikisource. John Vandenberg 11:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll upload more ~100 pages once the new wiki is set up. Aviator 17:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion

I don't think we should make a test project at the Incubator. The project already has its home at the Oldwikisource (see oldwikisource:Category:Bahasa Melayu). Moving our project to the Incubator first and then to the new domain would mean unnecessary extra work. Aviator 17:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is reasonable in my (personal) opinion. :) GerardM 20:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Shall we move on to the final approval, then? Aviator 23:38, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Wikisources may not be made on Incubator, they have to stay on the OldWikisource. ~~
All most used MediaWiki messages has been translated as of r28799. [1] Aviator 13:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When will the new wiki be created? I think all the conditions are met, and we've been waiting since last year. Aviator 23:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks like localisation of the extensions used within Wikimedia are still missing. See betawiki:Translating:Group_statistics. Siebrand 11:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Language code ms

Hi, I have some consideration about the language code. Back when ms.wikipedia was made (26 October 2002), the language code ms (639-1) was different from the language code ms (639-3:msa) today. At that time, ms was considered single language, but now, it has been designated as macro language. In the request page, the link provided is SIL:msa, while the Glottolog link msa is incorrect and should have been stan1306. If this ms.wikisource is created, then it means all documents from thirty-six individual language in 3 different countries are eligible to be hosted there, including Indonesian language, which has already own its own Wikisource (s:id:). If this is what the community wanted, then I think it's fine to proceed.

But if they only want to host documents in en:Standard Malay, or Malaysian Malay, then I don't agree that we continue using "ms", but rather "zsm" for Standard Malay (SIL:zsm, Glottolog:zsm/stan1306), or "zlm" for Malay (individual language) (SIL:zlm, Glottolog:zlm/mala1479). ✒ Bennylin 11:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, are they also againsting to collect contents in Old Malay (omy)? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Localisation effort

Currently 99.11% of the MediaWiki messages and 4.15% of the messages used in the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation have been localised in Betawiki. Thanks, GerardM 07:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, for the record, MediaWiki's messages are constantly being added and changed. We are trying our best to keep up with completing the localization effort. We may have done the translations 100%, and yet, the next day more new messages will surely appear. Aviator 20:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Proofread Page extension is not translated yet. John Vandenberg 07:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Things will not go bust on 1%. They may go bust on 25%. FYI: Currently 96.70% of the MediaWiki messages and 70.35% of the messages used in the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation have been localised for Malay in translatewiki.net. Kurniasan has been doing a nice job lately, but could use a lot of help. Cheers! Siebrand 22:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Settings

We still need the settings - please fill in the table at the top of this page, including the translations for the Wikisource-specific namespaces. --MF-W 09:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hadithfajri, User:Zahirulnukman, User:Lim Natee: as contributors of this project, can you help with this? --MF-W 06:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just fill in the Settings table. Zahirulnukman (talk) 09:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --MF-W 09:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]