Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Algerian Darija Latin
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
| What | Value | Example / Explanation |
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| Proposal | ||
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| Language code | arq-Latn (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
| Language name | Algerian Arabic | Language name in English |
| Language name | Darija Dziriya (Latin script) | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
| Language Wikidata item | Q56499 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
| Directionality | LTR | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
| Site URL | arq-latn.wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
| Settings | ||
|---|---|---|
| Project name | Wikipidya | "Wikipedia" in your language |
| Project namespace | usually the same as the project name | |
| Project talk namespace | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) | |
| Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
| Optional settings | ||
| Project logo | No logo for now | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). |
| Default project timezone | Africa/Algiers | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
| Additional namespaces | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". | |
| Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
Proposal
[edit]Algerian Darija, also known as الدارجة الدزيرية (in Arabic script) and Darija Dziriya (in Latin script), is a significant and widely spoken language in Algeria, with approximately 50 million speakers. While a Wikipedia edition for Algerian Darija in the Arabic script already exists, there is currently no dedicated Wikipedia project for Algerian Darija in the Latin script. This is a notable omission, as the Latin script is extensively used by Algerians in digital communication, social media, and informal writing.
The Latin script for Algerian Darija is not just a transliteration of the Arabic script but has evolved into a distinct and widely recognized form of writing, especially among the younger generation and in online communities. A Wikipedia in Algerian Darija (Latin script) would cater to this significant portion of the population, providing them with access to knowledge in the script they most frequently use.
Creating a Wikipedia edition in Algerian Darija (Latin script) would enhance the availability of online educational resources in this script, preserving and promoting the language in its Latin form. It would also contribute to the linguistic diversity of Wikipedia, offering a new avenue for the expression of Algerian culture and identity.
This proposal aligns with Wikipedia’s mission to ensure that everyone can share in the sum of all knowledge, regardless of the language or script they use. The creation of this new edition would support the digital inclusion of those who predominantly use the Latin script in their daily communication.
Support for this project can be observed in the growing number of digital resources, social media content, and academic interest in Algerian Darija in Latin script. Establishing a Wikipedia in Algerian Darija (Latin script) would provide a formal platform for this language and script to flourish in the digital space.
I strongly believe that the creation of a Wikipedia in Algerian Darija (Latin script) will be beneficial not only to native speakers but also to scholars, linguists, and anyone interested in the language and culture of Algeria. This initiative would complement the existing Arabic script edition and ensure that Algerian Darija is represented in all its linguistic forms.
--Yas Kaced (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Algerian Darija is on the incubator. A language that hasn't got off the incubator isn't going to get a fork in a different script. It's possible the people working on the incubator project are willing to work on script issues, but the discussion should be taken there.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Technical comment from a Language committee member: I renamed the page from "Wikipedia Darija Latin" to "Wikipedia Algerian Darija Latin". There is more than language called "Darija", but all the content of the page says that the page creator's intention is to make it for the Algerian variety, so I clarified it in the name. This doesn't imply any decision by the Language committee, but is simply done for simplification and clarification. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- If this is only requesting Latin support for incubator:Wp/arq, then why not just submit it at Phabricator? I don't see if adding script support for an ongoing test project needs a separate RFL. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment. in Miraheze there is a possibility to create wiki in Arabic in latin script. It is Tunisian Arabic (aeb-latn), but I think that writing in Algerian will not be a big problem. Also, there is a possibility to create wiki in Algerian, but only in Arabic script. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 09:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
