Interwiki synchronization/elementary-primary-comprehensive-school-education-etc

elementary-primary-comprehensive-school-education-etc

There are several starting point in various wikipedias, all having to do with elementary/basic/secondary/comprehensive/collaborative schools/schooling/learning/education.

They connect:

en:Comprehensive school
en:Elementary school
en:Gastropoda — (see #Group 2)
en:Gymnasium (school)
en:High school
en:Liceum ogólnokształcące — (see also #Group 1.A)
en:Lyceum — (see #Group 1)
en:Primary education
en:Primary school
en:Secondary education
en:Secondary education in France#Lycée
en:Slug — (see also #Group 2.B)

One of the problems apparently is that, school systems in different countries just do not compare. Likely, most school types apply to a much smaller set of countries (and thus likely, languages, too) than current interwiki links try to make us believe. --Purodha Blissenbach 21:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Group 1

Starting from en:Lyceum gives a clean group:

ca:Liceu (antiga Grècia)
cs:Lyceum
de:Lykeion
el:Λύκειο
en:Lyceum
eo:Liceo
es:Liceo
fr:Lycée
he:ליקיאון - Aristotle's school near Athens, est. 335 BCE
hu:Líceum
it:Liceo di Aristotele
ja:リュケイオン
nl:Lyceum
pl:Lykeion
pt:Liceu
ru:Лицей
sk:Lykeion
sr:Лицеј
sv:Lykeion
tr:Lykeion

thus cutting all links from the others to this group might be a helpful step. --Purodha Blissenbach 23:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Group 1.A

Starting from it:Liceo, things already get messy:

cs:Lyceum
de:Lyzeum ← not good: disambiguation. Links ignored.
- de:Lykeion
el:Λύκειο
en:Lyceum
- en:Liceum ogólnokształcące
fr:Lycée
he:ליקיאון - Aristotle's school near Athens, est. 335 BCE
hu:Lyceum → hu:Líceum
it:Liceo
- it:Liceo di Aristotele
ja:リセ
- ja:リュケイオン
pl:Liceum ogólnokształcące
- pl:Lykeion
sr:Лицеј
sv:Lykeion
ca:Liceu (antiga Grècia)
eo:Liceo
es:Liceo
nl:Lyceum
pt:Liceu
ru:Лицей
sk:Lykeion
tr:Lykeion
uk:Середня загальноосвітня школа

Group 2

Starting from any of the following yields no problem links either:

--Purodha Blissenbach 00:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Group 2.B

starting from en:Slug yields a duplicate each for almost all languages, and collects all members of the above #Group 2, too. --Purodha Blissenbach 00:39, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I've uploaded an automatic analysis for this area, it's here. It is based on database snapshots from late August 2008.

At least three "bottlenecks" in the graph of meanings can be identified:

en:High school (23) - en:School (18). Introduced by cs:High school ---> he:בית ספר, already corrected by a bot.
en:Gymnasium (school) (52) - en:Högstadiet (3) - en:Primary education (39). Introduced by nn:Ungdomsskule ---> el:Γυμνάσιο, no:Ungdomsskole ---> el:Γυμνάσιο, and sv:Högstadium --~> fi:Peruskoulu (interwiki to a redirect to a section). Still present.
en:Secondary education in France (51) - en:Slug (40). Apparently due to a homonym in Farsi. fa:لیسه is now a disambiguation page, and all incoming interwiki should be directed either to fa:لیسه (حلزون) (meaning 40) or fa:لیسه (مدرسه) (meaning 51). Note: I don't speak Farsi I only have a very limited understanding of the Arabic alphabet, this point is based on pictures, structure of links. It should be double-checked by a Farsi speaker. --Bolo1729 10:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Purodha Blissenbach 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

removed from en:Secondary education in France and fr:Lycée en France, changed interwiki to fa:لیسه (حلزون) elswhere. Andreas 15:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Meaning 12

de:Klammeraffe ("@-sign") should be isolated. It is unrelated to en:slug (disambiguation). The link is caused by homonym hu:Csiga which means both "@" and "slug" as it appears to me. (Imho linking disambiguations other than literals (abbreviations, figures, codes) works usually only between related languages having very compatible sets of homonyms) --Purodha Blissenbach 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the interwikis from these pages. Andreas 14:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Conclusion