Grants talk:PEG/Wikicology/Wiki Yoruba Workshop

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GAC members who support this request

1. --Ilario (talk) 13:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
2. --Violetova (talk) 14:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
3. --DerekvG (talk) 16:46, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
4. --MikyM (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
5. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
6. --Islahaddow (talk) 10:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

GAC comments

Thanks for the submission. While the idea about the three-day workshop to educate people on using the Yoruba Wikipedia certainly creates substantial value added for our movement, my questions and suggestions should not reflect concern regarding the approval of this request and mostly focus on improving some important details.

1. Why do you think it is relevant to measure the number of created accounts? It is logical that everyone who will attend the workshop will have to create account.

   Yes, I agree with you. It is logical that everyone who will attend the workshop will have to create account. I remove that from the measure of success.

2. What is your definition for an active editor? What is the duration of time after the workshop that you are going to use to measure the number of new active editors? A common definition for an active editor according to the global metrics is making at least 5 edits per month. A possible way to specify a time frame is to bind it with the duration of your mentorship process, that is 2 months.

   I defined an active editor as a Wikipedian who edit at least one article per day. Per the time frame, I will bind it with the duration of my mentorship process, (that is 2 months) as suggested.

3. How did you come up with the measure of creating at least 5 pages that will receive more than 100 views a month? Why do you think this measure is particularly relevant to this project? In my opinion, the number of page views cannot be suitably affected from one such workshop and it thereby is not a relevant measure to the project. Also, if you want to measure the number of page views that the created articles will receive, a more convenient approach might be to use it as an aggregate measure for all articles. For example, the effect of 20 articles with 50 page views each is greater than 5 articles with 100 page views each and 15 articles with 20 page views each, because the total number of page views in the former case equals 1,000 compared to the 800 in the latter.

   This suggested approach is fine and I will certainly use it. Thanks for this brilliant idea

4. Why do you think the translation of policies and guidelines really matters? In my opinion, you need to introduce policies and guidelines outlining the main principles of Wikipedia and those that most frequently apply within your community. Other policies and guidelines should be naturally implemented once your community reaches an agreement that they are inevitable for the resolution of some problems.

   I think there are certain policies and guidelines that should remain unchanged. For example WP:GNG, WP:RS, WP:CV and so on but as the community grow, we will reache an agreement on implementing certain policies and guidelines.

5. The permission to create accounts can not just mitigate but completely avoid the risk of inability to create new accounts in a 24-hour period. Please consider removing this concern from the risks.

   Removed

Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much Kiril, I responded in bold and I fixed the proposal per your recommendation. Wikicology (talk) 23:57, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Community comments

Note ongoing discussions of community concerns about Wikicology's editing on the English Wikipedia. --Andreas JN466 21:13, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Update (permalink to current status). Andreas JN466 03:00, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

WMF Comments

Hi Wikicology, you and your team have put together a strong project plan and funding request that we would be pleased to support. Our only concern is that running this workshop series at the same time as the recently approved Wiki Photo Tour project may burn out project organizers. You, Jamie_Tubers and Olaniyan Olushola are listed as coordinators/resources for both projects. Would it be possible to host the workshop series later in the year after the photography project has been completed? If not, would it make sense to postpone the photography project by a few months? Delaying the Yoruba workshop would give your team time to reflect on the Wikipedia 15 workshop series and contest that you finished last week. Evaluating that project and documenting the lessons your team learned from it will likely make your Yoruba workshops even better. Please let us know what you think about changing the timing of these projects to avoid volunteer burnout. Cheers, --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 19:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. This is actually not a project of the WUGN. This is my personal project in my capacity as an outreach coordinator of "The Wikipedia Library". I recently established the yoruba Wikipedia branch of the library and I need volunteers who speaks this language to help with contents translation. (http://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/wikipedia-project-in-nigeria/ http://www.nigeriacommunicationsweek.com.ng/news/you-dont-need-to-be-professor-to-edit-wikipedia-olatunde-isaac). I discussed with Jake Ohlowitz who advised me on this proposal. However, I share your concerns about the timing and I will be glad to host the workshop series later in the year after the photography project has been completed per your suggestion. Please, feel free move it to draft until after the WUGN "Wiki Photo Tour" is completed. Cheers! Wikicology (talk) 22:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)