Grants talk:IdeaLab/Search recent changes

Right of first refusal

@WMoran (WMF): you and your staff are most welcome to do this, as are volunteers. EllenCT (talk) 20:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

• Bringing this to attention of @Deskana (WMF):, Product Manager for search. Thanks @EllenCT: WMoran (WMF) (talk) 14:34, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

@EllenCT: Hey! Thanks for the proposal. Discovery will not be able to work on this, for two reasons.

1. The proposal is outside our current plans for our work in the next fiscal year (July 2016 - June 2017). This isn't to say that the proposal isn't valuable, but given the limited resources the team needs to prioritise our work based on where we think we can see the biggest rewards for our efforts.
2. Based on my limited understanding of the technology at play, this proposal is actually quite a large undertaking. Our search index is already very large (on the order of terabytes), and it only takes into account the current state of the pages on-wiki; adding in every previous revision of every page would likely cause the index to grow to an unmanageable size. There may be ways to mitigate this problem and allow the project to succeed, but that investigation would take time that Discovery does not have.

That said, I think this a promising project, so best of luck! --Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

@DGarry (WMF): thank you for your comments. How would you estimate the index size and work requirements if recent changes for the English Wikipedia were made available for the past two months only? EllenCT (talk) 01:43, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

@EllenCT: I don't know, and as mentioned above I don't have spare capacity to investigate. That said, off-hand, it seems like limiting how far back you store the data would be a good approach to limit the hardware requirements. --Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe not public-unauthenticated?

While this would be a useful tool for the reasons identified (and perhaps others), it might also enable abuse (in particular, stalking someone with a contrary PoV). It might be appropriate, for example, to restrict not-logged-in users to only a random sample of the past few hours, or expose a log of search-term ranges and keywords to the public, or to administrators. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidLeeLambert (talk)

@DavidLeeLambert: interesting! Can you describe in more detail the scenario you envision? EllenCT (talk) 03:09, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

April 12 Proposal Deadline: Is your project ready for funding?

The deadline for Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) submissions this round is April 12th, 2016. If you’ve developed your idea into a project that would benefit from funding, consider applying!

To apply, you must (1) create a draft request using the “Expand into an Individual Engagement Grant” button on your idea page, (2) complete the proposal entirely, filling in all empty fields, and (3) change the status from "draft" to "proposed." As soon as you’re ready, you should begin to invite any communities affected by your project to provide feedback on your proposal talk page.

If you have any questions about IEG or would like support in developing your proposal, we're hosting a few proposal help sessions this month in Google Hangouts:

• April 5th, 16:00 - 17:00 UTC
• April 8th 1:00 - 2:00 UTC
• April 12th 16:00 - 17:00 UTC

I'm also happy to set up an individual session. With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 00:38, 2 April 2016 (UTC)