Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Miscellaneous/Global signature
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Global signature
- Problem: For people who would like to have some uniqueness in their signatures, the default signature has to be re-configured over and over again every time we entered a new Wiki project. Besides, for people with non-latin usernames (like me), they might want to display a more recognizable, possibly Romanized signature on other Wiki Projects, and a more complicated username in their home wiki.
- Who would benefit: Cross-wiki users; people having non-latin characters in their user names, and people reading their comments
- Proposed solution: A global signature (maybe the one used in meta.wiki)
- More comments: I also hope that the default signature can be bolded, because the current plain link just make it merge into the discussions, and indistinguishable from other blue links.
- Phabricator tickets: T188200
- Proposer: 燃灯 (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- Why doesn't just putting it in Special:GlobalPreferences work for this? BWolff (WMF) (talk) 02:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BWolff (WMF): It isn't avaiable as a global preference despite my request during development. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- Translating scripts would probably make it easier for people unfamiliar with some scripts to recognize editors. But this might also make names unrecognizable across wikis; many people have natural names in multiple languages which are not obviously related to one another. If this gets implemented, could we please have a Languages section in the sidebar of user pages so that it's obvious what other names a user uses? HLHJ (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Comment This could cause issues if global is the only option. I for example have a different sig here than on en.wiki (the one here specifically targets to en.wiki user page, where if the en one was used here it would target my meta user page). — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 15:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Insertcleverphrasehere: How is your signature compatible with conventions, as there is no link to either your user page or your talk page in this project included, just links to outside this project? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 05:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sänger My user and talk pages on en.wiki are the only ones that I maintain actively, therefore my signature directs to those. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 08:54, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Insertcleverphrasehere: How is your signature compatible with conventions, as there is no link to either your user page or your talk page in this project included, just links to outside this project? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 05:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Voting
- Support Galobtter (talk) 19:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Cohaf (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support James Martindale (talk) 19:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support But what if users from other countries can't see your signature properly? Think about those containing CJK characters or Thai, Lao, or Burmese. Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 23:49, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Hell yeah — regards, Revi 02:08, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Enterprisey (talk) 04:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Hiàn (talk) 04:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Rschen7754 06:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Xiplus (talk) 07:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Hell yeah indeed. stjn[ru] 09:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Life would be little easy. :P ‐‐1997kB (talk) 10:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Frettie (talk) 10:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Alaa :)..! 10:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 11:25, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Kpgjhpjm (talk) 13:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support 94rain (talk) 14:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Naseweis520 (talk) 15:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Dcheney (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Wish this happens soon. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 18:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Barcelona (talk) 18:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Amir (talk) 19:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Nightdevil (talk) 19:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support —Thanks for the fish! talk•contribs 20:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Yamaha5 (talk) 20:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support MehdiTalk 20:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support This would be nice to have, bit, is not a top-priority by any means for me, though. SshibumXZ (talk) 21:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support –Ammarpad (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Hadibe (talk) 22:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Strongly support. Tom (LT) (talk) 23:17, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Tim Landscheidt (talk) 01:35, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support HLHJ (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose It may not be polite to use a fancy signature in other wiki projects due to difference in culture.--Temp3600 (talk) 05:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Poya-P (talk) 06:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Abductive (talk) 10:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support NMaia (talk) 10:36, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support فرهنگ2016 (talk) 10:42, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Sharaky Talk 10:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Leiem (talk) 15:37, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:58, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Jessamyn (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support stwalkerster (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Fatemi ♪ 18:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support -- Whats new?(talk) 22:33, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Strong support Waddie96 (talk) 07:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support ·addshore· talk to me! 10:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Sadads (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support - tucoxn\talk 18:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Iridescent (talk) 10:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Lofhi (talk) 18:05, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Mmitchell10 (talk) 21:07, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 01:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Tris T7 (talk) 02:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Terra ❤ (talk) 03:05, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Definitely! Vulphere 04:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Elfi (talk) 07:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support 燃灯 (talk) 16:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Vercelas (quæstiones?) 17:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Arian Talk 18:40, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Nihlus 22:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support tOMG 05:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. I'd prefer we got rid of customised signatures completely due to the hassle they cause. For example, in the recent migration from Tidy to RemexHtml, illegally formatted signatures containing improperly terminated font tags caused tens of thousands of talk pages to turn into multicoloured rainbows, with font colour tags colouring the text on the rest of the page until the next font colour tag came along and changed it again. The font tag has actually been deprecated for 20 years (really!) but it's used on millions of talk pages due to custom signatures. The headaches caused by custom signatures don't seem worth the benefits to me, so I'm not exactly in favour of exacerbating the problem by encouraging their globalisation. --Deskana (talk) 12:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Hecc yeah! ーTesser4D 【🅱alk】 17:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Deskana (who, I hope, does not use that fancy upside-down sig on en.wiki anymore ;) ). No such user (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- @No such user: Yes, I did, and that's actually a good example of the problem! An upside down signature like I used to use is a nightmare for accessibility since a screenreader wouldn't be able to make any sense of it. Nice callout. ;-) --Deskana (talk) 11:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 20:02, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support FiliP ██ 20:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support SalmanZ (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Customized signatures aren't welcome in every project. Enforcing them against local customs can lead to unnecessary disputes. --Zinnmann (talk) 15:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support James F. (talk) 22:43, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 00:51, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support WeegaweeK ❀ t c 08:30, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Deskana. CT should deal with more useful stuff. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Hmxhmx 11:17, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Helder 11:32, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Klaas `Z4␟` V: 12:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Contra wie Deskana. Klickibunti-Egovergrößerungsmüll, den einige hier haben, sollte dann selbstverständlich untersagt werden. per Deskana. Clicky-Dicky-Ego-Enhancing-Junk that some have as signatures should be strictly forbidden in that case. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 14:17, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support SemiHypercube (talk) 19:53, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 03:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - all custom signatures should be removed. PMG (talk) 16:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose PJTraill (talk) 00:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC) I did not realise (but am not surprised) that custom signatures cause so much pain.
- Oppose The issues of bad syntax can be worked out (T178879 and related), so I'm not real sympathetic to Deskana's opposition. The bigger problem with custom signatures is the general inaccessibility as noted by others here. --Izno (talk) 00:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, all custom signatures should be removed. Stryn (talk) 10:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Matěj Suchánek. Gareth (talk) 09:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)