Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Miscellaneous/Autoarchive provided
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Autoarchive provided
- Problem:
- Millions of talk pages stretching indefinitely require editors to individually create archive settings for talk pages, so that older entries, closed discussions etc are archived.
- This is a colossal waste of time.
- This could be made a lot easier if semiautomated tools were provided
- Who would benefit:
- Wikipedia, by decreasing duplicate editing
- Editors, by removing old or closed discussions
- Editors using mobile and other devices, by decreasing the size of talk pages, making them easier to load
- Articles, by ensuring discussions are up to date
- Proposed solution:
- As part of the editing toolkit an option to "Add auto archiving" is provided. The editor can insert some settings (eg how many threads to leave, how old threads should be before archiving, what style archive box should be used).
- Selected settings are automatically inserted into talk page with a template that informs other editors of those, and a small box providing links to archived talk page entries
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets:
- Proposer: LT910001 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
- Translations: none yet
Discussion
[edit]Structured Discussions can auto-archive :-) --Tgr (talk) 08:26, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
en:User:Anne drew Andrew and Drew/SetupAutoArchive exists for enwiki. Galobtter (talk) 12:43, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Voting
[edit]- Support Dvorapa (talk) 09:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 18:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Laboramus (talk) 20:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 22:03, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Shizhao (talk) 03:09, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 05:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 10:08, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose we should properly fix discussions, instead of building quicksand solutions. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Often archiving is not desired / necessary. This is the work I like doing, as well as repairing broken weblinks ZellmerLP (talk) 22:24, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support קובץ על יד (talk) 12:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Exilexi (talk) 15:03, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Dromedar61 (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Sahaquiel9102 (talk) 21:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support Ammarpad (talk) 23:19, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support only if there is option to disable it. --Termininja (talk) 17:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Noyster (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose As ZellmerLP. Wiklol (talk) 21:35, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Structured Discussions are the way to go. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 10:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose, Structured Discussions can auto-archive, and for other cases we have several bots. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 12:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support this should be very flexible Gryllida 00:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Ciao • Bestoernesto • ✉ 01:30, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose - Editors should have the choice of whether to archive or not, As for talkpages - Not all talkpages are edited and some aren't edited for over 5 years, Pointless proposal imho. –Davey2010Talk 17:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Ronhjones (talk) 18:29, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Talk pages over a certain size should be archived. Some people, you cannot use their talk page as it is too large to load. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:28, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Sphilbrick (talk) 15:20, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support WWGB (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Ahm masum (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support I regard it as important is to create an easier way for users to start archiving discussions on their personal talkpage. Default for personal talk pages must be that auto-archiving is turned off, so no unexpierienced user must wonder, where their talkpage content has disapperared to. Other talk pages should only be auto-archived when getting very large, at the same time manual or semiautomatic archiving of discussions maually flaged as closed should be possible. X:: black ::X (talk) 09:51, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support Le Loy 22:01, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Klaas `Z4␟` V: 22:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC) various flexible tools are available on quite a few projects and manual archiving is in most cases easier than you think with the advantage you have all control. On many talkPages no archiving is necessary nor has it much value; even better to keep forever so same discussions have less chance to occur.
- Neutral. On one hand, most wikis have their own tools (bots, scripts etc.) and its own rules (moving pages, copying content etc.), thus this would be hard to make unified. On the other hand, we cannot make it mandatory — NickK (talk) 17:38, 11 December 2017 (UTC)