Wikipedia redefined

This is a discusion page about Magnus' proposal in 2012 for a new Wikipedia layout design. See the discussion about Wikipedia Redefined on Wikimedia-l mailing list.

Magnus'proposal can be found here: Pyramid article

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Hello, unfortunately I can't see the design proposal (is it just me? "Loading Pyramid...") Maybe someone can make a screenshot? Magnus recently made another design proposal "explosion.css", is it similar? I liked it! There is another user design inspired by WikipediaRedefined by a german user here: [1] (see [2]). And another wikipage regarding redesigns was created: en:Wikipedia:Unsolicited redesigns (see also talk page). --Atlasowa (talk) 16:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added a screenshot at the top of this page. Yes, it's similar to explosion.css in some ways. ~~What browser/OS are you using? Can you get to the JavaScript console and copy me any warnings or errors?~~ Nevermind, found a FireFox paranoia issue and fixed it. --Magnus Manske (talk) 19:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Works fine now, thanks! --Atlasowa (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update Changes to TOC layout; added second header row, moved categories and languages there; added automated links to other Wikimedia projects (example), in the style used by the original "Wikipedia Redefined" people. --Magnus Manske (talk) 12:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I actually liked the black header row (visual contrast), not least because it contains the vital links to "edit", "talk" and ~~"research"~~ "read" ;-). Can't really see any difference in the TOC. Regarding the capital letter logos by wikipediaredefined, I think almost everybody agrees that it is out of the question to abandon the Wikipedia globe (and i do feel the same about the other Wikimedia project logos). --Atlasowa (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Like it a lot. --JN466 11:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update Categories now working; "eternal scroll" and automatic "section links" for large categories; thumbnailed display for images. Examples for Commons and en.wp. --Magnus Manske (talk) 21:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update Global usage of files now in right "sidebar". Type-ahead search working (no full-text search yet). Portal information on pages now gets moved into the header bar. --Magnus Manske (talk) 08:17, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update Now collapsing navboxes (on en.wp) into tabs; see example. --Magnus Manske (talk) 09:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update When collapsing navboxes into tabs, now also collapses references and everything after that. --Magnus Manske (talk) 09:46, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not so sure about collapsing/tabbing external links, references and literature, it breaks the TOC-links, makes scrolling more complex and, well, i think this stuff is important... ;-) --Atlasowa (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding categories and navboxes (and "see also"): One very interesting concept in wikipediaredefined is the "connection clouds" (with "connect" logo). One of the greatest and most popular things about Wikipedia is its linked nature and the wikisurfing. But it's easy to get lost. Of course, it's not a new idea to visualize the interconnections. Presently, you can see nearby articles (link by geography) on the map (top right corner, open OSM gadget and WikiMiniAtlas). You can open a category tree on some category pages (catgraph: cat:Pyramids). And off-site there is wikimindmap (wikilinks, TOC subsections, external links, categories) and these: WikiWeb App (with video) (wikilinks), Wikimap, Extension:Graphical Category Browser (with modification, WikiViz (video). And there is much more, i'm neither competent nor uptodate on this topic and what is out there. But i think it would help both readers and editors to get an overview, a visualization of those different connections (cloud, graph, tree, map, ...). Actually, I think a lot of those "fan cruft navboxes" on Wikipedia just try to provide this kind of information. Any ideas? --Atlasowa (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]