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Was bringt ihr in menschlicher Hinsicht in das Board ein?
Was bringt ihr in menschlicher Hinsicht in das Board ein? Schiste (talk) 08:19, 23. Mai 2013 (UTC)
Different prespectives, especially a local prepective, I think. I am starting my Wikipedia life from an editor to a volunteer in a chapter, and then on a regional and global level, my experience help me really understand the situation of different communities, and their feelings (sometimes fustrations) towards current system & structure of the movement.
In groups, I tend to focus on facilitation. A decision-making body is only as good as its ability to work together, and I try to find shared vision among people with different perspectives and make that a reality. I bring my love for our collective work, and for all those who make it possible. We should be kind and patient with one another, even when drama seems ready to overtake us. I rarely take offense at what others say, as I can usually put myself in their shoes. When I see unnecessary conflict arising, I try to resolve it.
To Board decisions and planning, I bring a view of the long-term change we can have over our lifetimes. I see Wikimedia and similar projects stirring a sea-change in how people think about writing, teaching, and sharing: a change that will play out over generations. And focusing on longer-term goals helps to clarify immediate conflicts. I believe in standing by one's positions, and being predictable and consistent over time. I find that apparent crises can usually be managed gracefully and without haste.
As for the personal perspective I can bring to the Board: I have an understanding of technology, and of the workings of other foundations and global social institutions. I try to share models for collaboration that have worked elsewhere. And I believe that the majority of our work and success comes from independent communities of contributors, not from centralized efforts and programs. It is easy, once an organization is established, to focus within - to think that its work is the primary driver of its mission. I try to focus the Board on the different needs and views of different regions and language communities.
My en.wikipedia talk page has a lot of stalkers, and a lot of people come by asking for all kinds of help; very often those people are helped by the stalkers, so I like to think of myself as an enabler of good things.
I was taught to respect authority if it deserves it but not to bow to it, and that's what you can expect from me if I make it to the Board. They're not paying me anything anyway. Besides, this would be my first venture into bureaucratland (even in my job I've successfully avoided that so far), and in this particular land I have no allegiance except to the community I hope to represent.
Also, I am really good at kissing babies (in fact, I have made three that I kiss regularly), so I'm pretty good as a public face for our organization. And I know what it's like to balance a busy job, a family, and a pretty serious devotion to Wikip/media.
I bring my time and skills, and a commitment to our values and to empowering our community. I believe greater engagement with the community is needed, and I will invest the time required to bring about that transformation.
Welche Fähigkeiten bringt ihr in das Board ein?
Welche Fähigkeiten bringt ihr in das Kuratorium ein? Schiste (talk) 08:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Communication skills as a person working in the media sector, organizing skills shown in the Wikimania planning, and regional network & connections
I have a background in designing projects to free knowledge and technology, around the world. In my work I often develop partnerships among institutions, foundations, and civic groups. I can help in part personally -- I regularly give talks about Wikimedia to new audiences, encouraging institutional or field-wide collaboration. And I made efforts to expand Wikimedia's reach and audience part of my work at One Laptop per Child and at the Digital Public Library for America. I bring this view of our opportunity-space to the board, helping the WMF include global partnership-building in its own plans.
I have worked as a software engineer, and help to give our technical platform due priority. I have also often worked in highly multilingual communities - when building translation tools, and later in international volunteer communities - and understand how to focus on multilingual process and communication.
Much of my work is with other foundations, academic institutions, and non-profits. As a result, I am familiar with budgeting and planning on both short and long timescales, and can share models from other arenas that may work for the Board. My work on the Board so far has focused on strategy and longer-term direction, which is becoming a greater focus of its work as other tasks are taken up by staff. I have also worked as Secretary and have led a move towards working and brainstorming in public on meta, away from private wikis. And I regularly help with communications more generally.
Darüber hinaus habe ich ein Talent dafür, zum Kern einer Sache vorzudringen und weiterführende Fragen zu stellen. Ich nehme gerne die Rolle des Advocatus Diaboli ein – das ist meiner Ansicht nach wichtig, um herauszufinden, ob unsere Entscheidungen die bestmöglichen und die am besten geeigneten sind.
Ich schätze, ich bin gut bei konzeptionellen, breit angelegten Strategien, was die wichtigste Funktion des Board darstellt. Wenn ich eine Situation einmal eingeschätzt habe, kann ich die gesamte Lösung im Kopf behalten und beginnen, mich bis auf den Grund zu den Einzelheiten durchzuarbeiten.Ich kann für meine Überzeugungen und Handlungen eintreten, und es fiel mir nie schwer, meine Meinung frei heraus zu sagen. Ich kann zuhören und flexibel sein und lasse mich auch von anderen Meinungen überzeugen (wenn sie durch Quellen belegt sind, wie sich das für gute Wikimedianer gehört :P). Ich kann recht gut mit Menschen umgehen. In meiner Funktion als Mitglied der Arbeitsgruppe für Wikimedia-zugehörige Gruppen und Organisationen kommuniziere regelmäßig mit Wikimedianern aus aller Welt. Vor allem bemühe ich mich um Empathie: Die Leute arbeiten zu schwer, um es ihnen gegenüber an Respekt mangeln zu lassen. Und dasselbe verlange ich auch für mich. Für uns alle als Ehrenamtliche mit begrenzter Zeit ist Priorisierung ein Muss: Ich habe den nötigen Blick dafür entwickelt, wann eine Sache die Mitarbeit lohnt und wann nicht, denn man kann nicht alles tun und muss sich entscheiden.
Eine andere Fähigkeit sind Sprachkenntnisse: Ich spreche Englisch, Spanisch und (leicht eingerostetes) Französisch. Ich bin sicher, dass das im Board nützlich sein kann.Wiki-skills
- Extensive experience with building small sister-projects
- Extensive English Wikipedia involvement
- Appreciation of the non-English Wikipedia
- Familiarity with the 'meta' community and practises
Real-world skills
- Involvement in large grant administration and monitoring
- Computer science and library science experience
- Experience running Wikimedia workshops in academic and GLAM environments, drawing on professional teaching experience
Warum sollte ich euch NICHT wählen?
Warum sollte ich euch NICHT wählen? Schiste (talk) 08:20, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Many answers apply to any candidate. One reason specific to me: If you want the Foundation to be risk-averse and to avoid failure anywhere in the movement.
I feel the WMF should serve in a supporting role within the movement, with few centralized programs, and should welcome innovation, creative ideas, and mistakes from the communities it supports. I think we should be less risk-averse, that we should celebrate failure as something to learn from, and that we should tell others about our failures so that they can learn with us.
This is not quite aligned with the current direction of the Foundation: which minimizes legal risk and downplays failure, and reacts with anxiety to failure in others. As a result I sometimes vote against positions that might otherwise be unanimous on the Board.
I understand the alternate vision of a Foundation that takes few risks, as a way of protecting its donors and reputation -- there are some highly successful organizations which have developed in this way. If you share that vision, you should not vote for me.
I hope that you will vote for three candidates who will represent you.
Zum Thema Diversity
Einige Kandidaten haben das Thema Diversity angesprochen. Was ist eurer Meinung nach Diversity? Schiste (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Things working in one place doesn't means working in somewhere else. We should help it out, even that doesn't fit certain criteria in the developed world, and also respect their way of life, that's diversity. (Again this is a matter of attitude)
Diversity on our projects means a cross-section of different communities in the world, in both language and field; a cross-section of different types of contributors; and a cross-section of background: gender, social network, geography. Diversity on the Board includes the above, but with an extra focus on a diversity of background: in skills and organization types that each Trustee is familiar with.
It's obvious that we should encourage diversity. How to do that, that's the harder question, and I don't think it can be mandated: here in the US they do "diversity training", and anyone who's gone through that will tell you that it's laughable (at least, if they are allowed to be honest). I think we need to be honest as well and allow that saying "we encourage diversity and aim for x% participation of group Y" sounds good but doesn't yet do anything. At the same time, that means we'll have to keep thinking about what we can do, and I think that involves listening.
Diversity is essentially respect and fairness combined.
Supporting diversity is empowering volunteers, affiliates and project communities to put forward ideas that they believe will work within their cultural framework and organisational capacity, and supporting those ideas unless there is clear & valid opposition in the broader community.
Zum Thema Vertrauen und Verständnis
Innerhalb der Wikimedia-Bewegung hat es in den letzten Jahren Schwierigkeiten hinsichtlich Vertrauen und Verständnis gegeben. Das war Anlass für zahlreiche Spannungen, Konflikte und Probleme. Meint ihr, dass dieses Problem durch das WMF-Board aufgegriffen werden sollte? Wenn nicht, warum? Wenn ja, warum? Schiste (talk) 08:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The board somehow need to ease the tensions, and provide some way out. Also before the WMF or the community can set up something to keep the lessons learnt and improve the community, the board have take care part of these roles.
The WMF should lead by example here: being the first to trust, the first to try to understand, the last to judge someone else. It should be a source of stability and reliability, through dramatic times. And it should learn from generations of contributors about the different modes of debate, conflict, and resolution -- helping those engaged in any particular conflict see their struggle in a broader light.
The Board can help make this a priority for the WMF, and can serve directly as ambassadors to community groups that are having trouble; I think this is still necessary today, when we have few such ambassadors. But over the next 5 years, I think this direct-action aspect of Board membership should shift to a broader group including staff and community liaisons.
I think this should be handled by all the participants. Trust isn't fixed with the board just saying a few magic words. :) It takes work, time and good will from all involved. I do think it is achievable, and I wish to work to make it possible.
I agree that the Wikimedia movement has seen a significant deterioration of trust and understanding between movement entities, and the WMF board needs to both a) accept their role in this, and b) be active in resolving these issues.
At the core, I believe, is that one movement entity (the WMF) is holding all the power (and has been collecting more power in recent years), and not sufficiently attempted to empower and support the other entities. Three main power struggles have been over the money, the 'brand', and the software.
The Funds Dissemination Committee is a step in the right direction regarding funding of affiliates. However the FDC alone won't deliver fairness. We need more community participation in the evaluation of the non-core activities of WMF, and undertake the process of establishing core funding for all affiliates. IMO, the Grants team needs to be expanded in order to become more supportive.
I believe trademark management is the next 'power' problem to be solved, with transparency and community involvement in the management of trademarks, where WMF acts as custodian, and only overruling the community when they asking for the impossible/illegal, or if the community is acting undeniably against the values and mission of the WMF.
The WMF’s leading role in MediaWiki software development and deployment has also been a power problem at times. It appears when a) the WMF devote precious development resources to features the community doesnt want (or the community doesnt understand), or b) the WMF deploy a new feature that the community doesn't like or want, or c) the WMF refuses to configure a project in line with community consensus. This power problem is one the trustees need to continue monitoring, as it should diminish with more community involvement in determining WMF non-core funding, and as large software development projects led by other affiliates are completed (such as Wikidata) thereby improving the diversity of the software ecosystem.
Kinderschutz und die WMF
Als Mitglied der Benutzergruppe Oversighter für die englische Wikipedia und als jemand, der dort schon mit Kinderschutzfällen zu tun hatte, frage ich mich, wie die WMF derzeit mit Kinderschutz und dem Melden ernster Fälle wie Kinderpornographie umgeht. Ich bin beunruhigt über den Mangel an klaren Richtlinien seitens der WMF, wie bei solchen Angelegenheiten generell vorzugehen ist, und als Ehrenamtliche mache ich mir Sorgen über die rechtlichen Auswirkungen, wenn Ehrenamtliche mit solchem Material umgehen. Soweit ich sehe, verfügen wir über keine offizielle Strategie, wie die WMF mit diesen Dingen umgehen sollte. Ich finde, wir sollten hierfür unbedingt eine zentrale Ansprechstelle bei der WMF haben, wüsste jedoch gern, was die Kandidaten hierzu meinen – Alison ❤ 00:18, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Falls du mit deiner Frage weitere Maßnahmen zur Zensierung der Inhalte von Wikimedia-Projekten implizierst, so bin ich dagegen. Das ist nicht nur fragwürdig hinsichtlich der Vielzahl unterschiedlicher kultureller Normen auf der ganzen Welt. Analysen haben auch gezeigt, dass Zensurwerkzeuge in Wikimedia-Projekten von unterdrückerischen Regimes genutzt werden könnten, um den Zugang zu verschiedenen anderen Informationen zu zensieren, sie könnten also viel Schaden anrichten.
Und schließlich kann jeder relativ aktuelle Forks von Wikimedia-Projekten erzeugen, die kein Material enthalten, das nicht den ideologischen Standards bestimmter Gruppen von Menschen entspricht. Ginge es um die Zensierung des Zugangs zu Kritik an Chuch’e oder expliziten sexuellen Inhalten, würde sich niemand daran stoßen.- Festsetzung von Zielen, langfristigen Plänen und hohen Standards für die WMF und ihre Projekte
- Auswahl von Zuständigen in der WMF, die den täglichen Betrieb überwachen, und deren eigene Leistung ebenfalls kontrolliert wird
- Gewährleistung der Nachhaltigkeit der Organisation, indem eine Reihe unabhängiger Einkommensquellen definiert werden
- Mitteilungen an die Community zu Richtung und Maßnahmen der WMF
- Vermittlung von Übersicht über Buchhaltung, Budgetierung und Programmen
- Bewahrung rechtlicher und ethischer Integrität
- Gewinnung und Orientierung neuer [vermutl. Ehrenamtlicher, Anm. d. Ü.]
- Darstellung der Mission der WMF in der Öffentlichkeit
I'm far from being a parent, at least now, I have to confess I am not familiar with the issue. But I do think such work need a WMF coordination, especially on communication with different parties. Again I think this is really a week spot of WMF in many cases, I do think we really need a dedicate staff as a point of contact for the whole community.
A central point of contact is needed here. The WMF should have a process for setting temporary policy where none exists, and approving policy set by communities where it does exist. There should also be a process for addressing concerns of Oversight and other functionary groups about these serious problems – ones with legal ramifications for whoever handles them – on short notice. Other large-scale networks that handle community-produced content, from forums to media-hosting sites, have small staff groups dedicated entirely to this; on top of any community moderation.
We tend to be one of the best sites around when it comes to managing such processes within the community, but the point of legal pain is precisely one that the WMF was created to handle. I believe the current LCA team is an excellent start at addressing these issues.
Having said that (which isn't very exciting), I do think that there ought to be some clear guidelines. In general I trust the judgment of my fellow administrators and I have not yet seen any reason to doubt the judgment of the oversighters on the en.wiki (a pretty select company and, Alison, ❤, you're the prettiest of them all), but child porn is just not a thing where we should get it wrong. As we do with biographies of living people, we should err on the side of caution, and yes of course we shouldn't censor but judging something to be illegal is not the same as censoring it on moral grounds.
Having said all that, I haven't walked in your shoes and you know what, I'm glad I haven't--thinking about what you might have removed makes me a bit queasy already, since I got three sleeping babies upstairs and once you have that, things change. I don't know how fast the response is from the legal folks; I think that you should be able to ping someone or call someone and get an immediate answer if you're not sure yourself. I think volunteers (while we're still a volunteer organization) who are given such great responsibilities should indeed have clear directives to follow, and a human being (with a suit, a law degree, and a mandate from the Foundation) to speak to if necessary. And thanks for the work that you've done, Alison: I couldn't have done it.
Well, given my background (as a computer forensics investigator) this is an important issue to me. The community seems to be coping with child pornography problems; but certainly this is something the Foundation should support with staff time. Judging exactly what constitutes child pornography is often not easy – it can be subjective, and needs experienced support. But the bottom line is that Commons is not a major host of, or target for, child porn, and so this issue is not as concerning to me as the next..
I agree. We need a scalable model to protect volunteers who handle these delicate situations. At least clear guidelines for all projects. Contacting the local authorities always seems the most appropiate course of action, but volunteers could do with more support on the wiki side in those stressful situations.
As someone who has also been a very active member of the Oversight team on the English Wikipedia, I share Alison’s concerns with how child protection and reporting of serious issues such as child pornography are currently handled by the WMF. There are staff at WMF who have the unfortunate task of managing these issues, and they have my respect. There is insufficient documentation about processes and scale of the WMF involvement in addressing these issues, and insufficient protection for the volunteers who do the vast majority of the work.
Firstly, I would like WMF to produce an annual 'Transparency report', including number of requests from and to the governments of the world. I am looking forward to the 'Transparency report' session by Andy Yee (Policy Analyst at Google Inc.) at the upcoming Wikimania. This will increase awareness within the community and the general public of the problems we face in running projects that 'anyone can edit'.
Specifically addressing child protection, I believe the WMF should develop Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) compliance in MediaWiki, either as an extension or behind a configuration variable. If my memory serves me correctly, WMF projects are not legally required to comply with COPPA due to our non-commercial nature, however we do not use the 'non-commercial' loophole when it comes to 'non-free images' (because we have downstream re-users that are commercial), and we shouldn't use 'non-commercial' to avoid taking appropriate steps to reduce the number of children harming themselves by releasing inappropriate information on their userpage. There are many ways that COPPA compliance can be achieved, ranging from not allowing people under 13 to edit at all, to not allowing contributors to place personally identifying material on their userpage until they assert that they are 13 years old or older. A user-friendly user-page-creation wizard could provide 99% of COPPA compliance, reducing our risks significantly, without any permission model changes. We should look at a range of options, and allow Wikimedia projects to choose different approaches according to their capacity to manage the new users and their risk profile, similar to how we allow projects to define their own non-free compliance strategy. A valid option for some projects may be 'status quo', where the community manually patrol looking for new user pages created by self-disclosed children who are sharing way too much personal data.
Regarding the general principle of allow children to participate, I know of some very brilliant and very young people, and have met their parents (in person), and their lives are better from having been involved in Wikimedia. The 'good ones' are typically very sensible about their privacy online; the same advanced intelligence that means they can be useful contributors to Wikimedia projects helps them understand that they need to keep their identity private on public pages that are redistributed around the world.
Anonymes Bearbeiten von Artikeln zu Personen in Wikipedia
Angesichts des jüngsten Vorfalls um Qworty in der englischen Wikipedia und früheren Fällen anonymer diffamierender Bearbeitungen wie denen durch Johann Hari möchte ich euch fragen: Haltet ihr persönlich es für sinnvoll, statt des anonymen Bearbeitens eine Registrierung mit echtem Namen, markierte Versionen oder eine Verbindung von beidem (z. B. dass Bearbeiter von Artikeln zu Personen sich der Foundation gegenüber zu erkennen geben müssen) vorzuschreiben, um Vandalismus, ideologischer Verzerrung und anonymen Verleumdungen in Wikipedia-Artikeln zu Personen mit geringfügiger Bekanntheit vorzubeugen? Andreas Andreas JN466 01:29, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
This is something I think about often. It is certainly a question for the community, not for the board. But anonymity is a key freedom of our projects, and we should support it even as we also support ways to visualize how well-vetted and neutral an article is. I don't think requiring registration is a good idea. On the other hand, I think there are a few related things we definitely should consider:
- Support easier ways for editors to link their contribution to real identities -- currently we make that difficult even for those who want a one-click way to import an identity from elsewhere.
- Build a better quarantine and sandboxing system so that we can support "grey-area" contributions and let them develop without immediately either approving or deleting them. Flagged revisions is a first attempt at this for vandalism and spam; something more advanced will be needed as well, for ongoing contributions that need some sort of verification.
- Explore ways to treat BLPs and living-organization articles differently: they are the target of such a different class of socking and spam and self-promotion, they deserve to be treated differently, including with different policies and automated tools.
- Explore better ways to show how trusted a version of an article is, such as: when the last edit was made, how many different major contributors an article has, whether an article has unreviewed flagged revs, how active the talk page is.
Recommendations along these lines from the curating community would certainly be considered by developers, both volunteer and staff. If a community recommendation has a difficult time being implemented, that might be something to discuss on a global forum, with Board engagement.
When the s**t came down on the Amanda Filipacchi article on the English Wikipedia, after her NYT article about categorization (and, for the record, I agree with her broadly in regards to the "ghettoization" of female novelists, though not with all her points), I became one of the editors of that article and supported Qworty's edits--perhaps not every single one of them, but broadly speaking I did support them. I have edited thousands of BLPs and hundreds of articles on living writers (literature is my profession, though as a medievalist I prefer my authors long dead and gone), and in general I am as strict as Qworty was: my concern is that too many of those articles are like resumes (and I knew Qworty, vaguely, as the kind of editor who edited in the same way--at least on articles of writers he hated). That is, they typically contain every scrap a person ever wrote and an online link to them; in many cases, it's nothing but that, with some praise and some namedropping by way of article text, followed by...well, a resume. So, I didn't disagree with Qworty's edits and supported them, on the talk pages as well.
Now, when the s**t comes down it comes from all sides, and there was good reason to believe Qworty was duking it out with some people who were involved with Filipacchi--an agent, likely, or business partner, and probably a few socks. There was talk of "revenge editing" given something Qworty had supposedly said on his own talk page, and I looked at his comments too late--a day, maybe two days, after the matter exploded in the edit history and on the talk page. So, I was blissfully unaware that there was something to the charge of "revenge editing" and in hindsight I wish I had looked into it sooner--but at least initially those charges came from editors with, for one reason or another, little credibility: new (single-purpose) accounts, possible socks, etc. Once I saw what Qworty was really up to, I found myself in the awkward position of agreeing with (some of) his edits while being repulsed by the motivation; this was just a few days before the Salon article came out, identifying Qworty as someone bent on revenge for various perceived slights and a lot of professional jealousy. I can't tell you how upset I am still with myself for not investigating sooner.
What to do about it? People like me (for better or for worse, some people listen to me, and I am an admin, after all) should look more carefully into matters, that's clear. Of course, as it turned out he'd been doing this for years. Why wasn't he blocked after an earlier sock puppet investigation? I don't know; maybe there was an assumption of good faith, a basic tenet of our interaction with other editors. If he had been forced to edit under his real name, alarm bells might have gone off sooner: Amazon has made that an option after their own scandal (and it's possible that Qworty's Amazon books are plugged by him or his friends...), of friends and enemies reviewing books, socking and meating along the way.
At the same time, anonymous editing is our strength; there's no denying it, and we need a constant influx of new editors. So that's probably not the way to go. There is indeed a proposal to let only "real name" editors work on BLPs; I don't know if that's technically feasible, but even that would require significant administrative changes on the level of the Foundation: the person I emailed my driver's license in order to participate in these elections probably wouldn't want to get a thousand emails per day, and even those would have to be taken at good faith at some point.
Nor do I believe in flagged revisions at this point: the flagged revision thing was shot down on the English Wikipedia, re-proposed, and I think the RfC is still ongoing. Moreover, those revisions are approved by established editors...editors like Qworty; and his edits would have been automatically accepted. So I don't believe that would solve the problem as a whole, though it might catch some abuse.
Semi-protecting BLPs might have a same effect--it might catch some abuse, but it would shy away a lot of potential contributors, not to mention the thousands of good-faith IP editors. Also, it's not just the "marginally notable"--I worked on the Filipacchi article, and she is not marginally notable (though Qworty and a few others said so). So you're talking about a lot of articles--tens of thousands, I'd say.
I'm going on at such length to say that I have good reason to say "I don't know", at least not right now. I do believe it is an issue that at some point (maybe soon) will have to be taken up by the Board since our reputation is at stake. For those outside the US: let me tell you, our reputation has taken a blow, and my friends and colleagues ask me about it as well, and all I can say is, somewhat embarrassed, yes, that can happen. For now, greater vigilance is the only solution I have, and it's not much of a solution--unless we want to take away one of our strengths, anonymous editing. I'm sorry, Andreas et al, I wish I had something better to offer. I wish we had found out before Wikipediocracy had. Perhaps we could have, even with our existing, faulty system. I know that I, for one, will be more vigilant, and I think I'm not the only one--but that's not a guarantee that we'll improve. I will tell you, though, that I think this is a most serious issue, and you have my word that I will make it one, if it isn't one already at the board level.
Ich habe früher viel zu Artikeln über lebende Menschen in der englischen Wikipedia beigetragen und bin aktiver Support-Mitarbeiter. Deshalb habe ich täglich ganz konkret mit diesen Dingen zu tun. Wir stehen vor einem Problem. Würde es durch die Registrierung mit echtem Namen gelöst? Wahrscheinlich nicht, und es würde einen hohen Verwaltungsaufwand bedeuten und ließe sich leicht umgehen. Ich würde einen aktiveren Ansatz bevorzugen, der auf markierten Versionen beruht. Aber vor allem wünsche ich mir, dass die Wikipedianer besser über Artikel zu Personen informiert sind und sich die Auswirkungen ihrer Worte im echten Leben klar machen.
Bei der Arbeit an Artikeln über Personen sind wir sensibel genug, ich habe schon Kommentare auf Diskussionsseiten gesehen, die in keiner Weise als Angriff gemeint waren, durch die sich die betroffene Person aber schwer gekränkt fühlte. Ich habe den Stress erlebt, den Autoren verursacht haben, indem sie versuchten, Details in Artikeln beizubehalten, über die die Betroffenen sich aufregten, (und unsere oft schwachen Erklärungsversuche, warum das so dort steht). Wir müssen die Leute anregen, die breite Wirkung von Wikipedia in der Welt zu sehen, was hoffentlich innerhalb der Community ein gemeinsames Gefühl der Verantwortung dafür fördern wird, die Dinge richtig zu tun und dafür zu sorgen, dass das so bleibt!This should be a project-by-project decision. Should local projects wish to go for it, the WMF technical people should assist with the tools to allow it. But I wouldn't want the Board to impose it, or want any particular decision imposed on any community against local project consensus (unless they are doing something clearly harmful to the project or the mission, which I acknowledge could happen). If my home wiki decided to go for it, I would change my username.
I have talked at length about this problem at User:John Vandenberg/WMF BoT candidature notes#Quality. I think focusing on the anonymous nature of Qworty would be a grave mistake. I know of cases where contributors were using their real-identity when behaving similar to Qworty, and so do you. I also know many very good anonymous contributors to BLPs, and I think you'll agree with me there too. We also already have the problem of contributors providing fake real-identities.
The critical part of this question is the very large set of ‘marginally notable people’, which is where the problem lies. We need better case/complaint management tools. We need well thought out and carefully implemented pilots of flagged revisions/pending changes with community support in order to determine how these tools can best assist the community.
That said, I do see a gradual and organic shift in our community towards using real identities, and I believe the WMF should support this, but not force that onto the projects.
Foundation wiki coup and multilingual communication
What do you think of the recent foundation: wiki coup which left the wiki without management? [1] If you're a current board member, did the board discuss it and why didn't you say anything? What should the board do to e.g. update wmf:Wikimedia:Welcome and ensure a multilingual communication from the WMF, which used to happen on that wiki and is now impossible? Nemo 07:07, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Please see my answer to the question that follows. It is very similar.
I'm not a current Board member, but I suspect the Board wasn't involved in this -- contrary to popular assumption, they are usually not consulted on day-to-day or management issues. That said... yes, of course I agree it was poorly done and probably a poor decision; but I think Gayle has acknowledged that quite thoroughly and said that if anyone needs admin rights for a special project they can get them. I'm not sure what more needs to be said on the matter. Mistake made, mistake acknowledged, mistake noted for the future... let's move on. As for the welcome page... I'm not sure exactly what you mean; I thought all the translation happened on Meta anyway, even for WMF wiki pages? If not, then it certainly could be. And yes, of course the WMF site should be widely multilingual, like Commons or any of our other cross-language sites.
Although this question is intended to current board members candidates, but I could pass my comments due to my knowledge and expertise in the leading organizations in my country, I think it is a time to review the composition of the Board of Trustees in particular the number of members who have the right to be elected:
- The number of members is not enough to compare with the Foundation, speaks about millions of users worldwide.
- For example as president of a country can have 25 ministers who work for the government of his country one does wikimedia Foundation that oversees the five continents have a board of ten people? No, it is necessary to make changes.
- I think Jimmy Wales as a founder of Wikipedia and Wikimedia he is titled for life membership to the Board instead of being appointed annually this is not fair, the Statutes must be reviewed for that specific state, and therefore every continent to be presented by one board member, can you imagine with unknown reason the Wikmedia Foundation has only 16th strong chapters and if you ask a reason why you’ll be told of insufficient of supporting organizations which can be arranged with complete training within a six months. If we do this seriously it will help to move up, but don’t forget about responsibility and accountability, that so.
Again, this is a communication failure, at least I think. Besides a general point of contact, we need discussion before taking these rather big decisions. And also we need a place to keep this lessons, among the staff member and communities as well.
This was a communication failure. I don't think that this was a 'coup' as you put it, and it did not leave the wiki without management: most of the logged admin actions on that wiki over the past 2 years have been made by staff admins, not by the other admins there.
You may guess what my own views are on this specific decision and how it was conveyed. However one of the greatest challenges for community members of being on the Board, is giving the staff complete leeway to make decisions, including making and resolving their own mistakes. While this conflict seems like an enormous deal today in the heat of the moment, it did not seem worth crossing that line to help bring it to a better resolution. [Though I did comment briefly on the WMF wiki to the editors who were involved, and might have been offended.]
The Welcome page you mention was updated weeks ago to clarify the change in adminship standards – and any of the 600 editors on that wiki could do so. And the multilingual editing and communication on that wiki has never required an admin flag, and will continue as it has in the past -- most of the editors on that wiki are involved in translation or messaging in some capacity.
Finally, one of the useful suggestions that came out of this teapot-tempest was that many of the functions of the wmfwiki could be moved to meta: including multilingual communications. This could then be imported back to the wmfwiki by non-translators -- and would have the added benefit of talkpages for the relevant pages that anyone could comment on, in their own language.
I think it is hyperbole to call this controversy a "coup". I agree that this change was made in a very very unfortunate way, and I do not personally agree with the specific policy change. However, I do believe that if the process had been managed carefully this change did not have to be controversial. There were valid reasons underneath the change but this did not necessarily have to be the eventual outcome and this certainly is not the way that whichever outcome should have been arrived at.
This question about multilingual communication is related to your (Nemo) other question below – about wiki-proliferation. I do not personally believe I could give the "best solution", and nor do I think that it is the Board's role to make specific technical/procedure requests. But, it IS the board's role to instruct the WMF to investigate technical and procedural ways to ensure that the community interested in meta-issues (this includes the Chapters, the WMF, the FDC etc., not just things on Meta-Wiki) have easy access to the information and methods of engaging with the issues personally. I agree that there is currently a gap – and it has grown with the latest changes – but I think we can work to reduce this gap with clear instructions from the Board that proactively bridging this gap is a priority.
Regarding the WMF wiki coup, it was not planned well, but the main effect is damaged relations (esp. with the desysoped volunteers) and unnecessary drama. However many affiliates have chosen to have closed or member-only wikis for their organisation, and I think that the WMF moving towards a slightly less open wiki for their main web presence is a choice that doesn't require Board of Trustee involvement. The WMF wiki is more 'open' than many affiliates. This change of direction was poorly communicated, and desysopping volunteers on a Friday afternoon is very odd.
Regarding multilingualism on meta-wiki and the WMF-wiki, translation is now being done on the meta-wiki, and the translation software is very cool. After the 'coup', messages are being syncronised from meta-wiki to the wmf wiki by volunteers. (e.g.[2][3]) We should be increasing the participation and coordination of translators on meta-wiki, and streamlining the syncronisation process.
I suspect there are many other functions of WMF-wiki that are continuing to operate properly after the 'coup'.
Are there functions of WMF-wiki that have deteriorated after the 'coup'?
I was able to quickly find one gnoming task on the WMF-wiki that need advanced tools, and hasnt been done, but I don't know if these tasks were done efficiently by volunteers in the past. Time will tell if the WMF staff will effectively administrate their wiki. If not, they may decide they need to change course.
Dutzende private WMF Wikis und "kein Platz für Zusammenarbeit"
The WMF has about 20 distinct private wikis plus a number of other internal private discussion venues and resources including mailing lists and Google Docs. However, it refuses to include volunteers in any of them and is closing Internal-l and internal wiki, a policy summarised as "no place to work together" (between WMF staff and volunteers including chapter members).[4] Do you think the WMF needs this seclusion and fragmentation, and what can the board do about it? --Nemo 07:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Like it or not, there needs to be a restructuring of communications channels in the Wikimedia movement. What we have now is a hodge-podge of channels, some open, some not, each created separately with no overall rationale of what kinds of communications we need, among whom and open to whom. Wikimedia is no longer the fledgeling organization it once was, and whether we want completely open communication or not, it simply isnt feasible among thousands and thousands of people. Think of it as democracy. When the idea was created in ancient Greece, the city was small enough to gather all the eligible men (and even then people were left out) had a big meeting and voted on the issues. When you have thousands to millions, you cannot do this and so comes the need for representatives. In the case of the Foundation, there is another aspect. It is a legal entity subject to the laws of the US, no matter what community consensus may be on something. In other words, there is a need for official channels for official legal communication from the Foundation (and the Board), there is need for private and relatively private communication (think negotiating a cooperation with a museum) and there is the need to have as-open-as-possible communication within the community. The two questions I am answering here, come from the same issue... a lack of an organized, cohesive communications policy.
I think most of those seemed like a good idea at the time... but we know, from lots of experience now, that a private wiki can be useful in the short-term but is usually unmaintainable in the long-term. I've only participated in a few of those, and I think the notes on the wiki page that you linked are right: most of those 20 private wikis aren't being used at all, and could be merged back into larger sites whenever someone gets around to it. I'll also correct a couple of statements: some of those wikis were created just so volunteers and staff could work together in a private setting that wasn't open to a large number of people. And, while there was a proposal to close internal-l (I think from a community member?) no one has has done so or as far as I know plans to do so until there's consensus from the internal-l community. And there's plenty of private wikis that aren't just WMF wikis: each chapter has a wiki, etc. etc.
- So here are some ideas that we all (Board, staff & community alike) could do:
- not create more private wikis, and do work publicly where possible and consolidated privately where not
- make MediaWiki development of private / user-limited namespaces possible a priority. This is after all part of the problem, and is something that the industry MW user community really wants as well.
- Ban the use of Google docs... I say this jokingly, but it is a problem: due to wikis being tough for sharing private information, it's a natural tendency to move to a mechanism that is more user-friendly for sharing spreadsheets and documents among a small group. This leads to information being fragmented. I don't think private wikis are inherently a bad thing. But I do think having organizational discussions and records split over emails and documents and wiki pages can be.
The Board of Trustees is the governing authority of The Foundation, this means that all Movable property and immovable which it includes staffs, members and this members divided in member by chapter or organizations or member by individually whether volunteers or whatever they’re all belongs to the board. Any kind of refusal of inclusion of any instruments of the foundation has a lack of two things of whether it’s unconstitutional or economical constraints, if that is the case two things involved:
- The discussions, and
- The conventions
I think this problem is really an issue about the attitude rather than means of communications. Again there are some great communicator within WMF, and sadly the others may not, so some central & friendly points of contact is curcial. I do think there is some works had to deal within Google Docs, Private wiki, as WMF sometimes need to meet the standard of "Commercial world". But if the things really involves community, we need to find a balance on that.
I too really dislike the use of private wikis, and many of these should simply be made part of Meta. Even more unfortunate is the shift to using Google docs and spreadsheets – by definition a collaboration environment that we should master. We need better ways to work together, even when there are small bits of private information mixed in with the rest.
This is a problem for all of our movement: we are too fragmented, with too many private spaces – separate lists for every sort of functionary, separate lists for every new semi-private group that forms. This is also a problem for all users of wiki software, and something we should recognize as a fundamental collaboration problem, which we should make a higher technical and social priority.
I have pushed for as much Board and WMF work as possible to be carried out on Meta. This part is social change and is effective in part; we have done more work on Meta last year than in any previous year - with most of the major projects and ideas from the ED and head Counsel going through a meta review and vetting process. I also tracked down our private wikis and maintained that list with help from thehelpfulone : most of them are dead, one of the best arguments for avoiding private wikis. Their content needs to be reviewed by its former contributors and can then be archived in-place or merged to Meta (or an Internal-equivalent) as appropriate. I have made some related documents public where possible – such as the stock Chapters Agreement from 2007 (after consulting with its authors).
I think we should use a site like the internal-wiki to unify these efforts: as a space to hold a large variety of mildly private material, things that can't be made totally public and google-searchable; things such as draft agreements and announcements with a short-term quarantine; and the work of individual Committees. This is a decision the WMF and communities should make together, though the WMF can lead by being the first to define how it would use such a space, to share more of what is currently kept on the office/contractors/board-committee wikis. Having made that decision, we should work on developing whatever tools are needed to make it possible to share such a space.
The proliferation of Wikis is something that has frustrated me for AGES. It should not be necessary to create a whole new Wiki (and all the maintenance that entails) simply because there is a new sub-group with a need for a private space. Most of the places listed on "Private wikis" are quite small groups with a narrow task. There is also "outreach wiki" which, in my opinion, should not have been created separately from Meta in the first place. I would like to see the Board direct the WMF to invest methods to ensure that the community, discussions and documentation are kept as up to date and cohesive as possible. Simply by having everyone "in the same room" should go a long way to reducing feelings of isolation or non-inclusiveness (it should also save time in having to maintain different wiki's settings/templates etc.). I am not a coder, and it is not the Board's role to decide how such a direction is best undertaken, but my suggestion would be this:
- Complete the Single User Login and Universal userpage/watchlist/notifications systems that have been proposed for so long. This removes duplication and means a Wikimedian does not have to set up a different presence on each project.
- Create more nuanced privacy settings that allow specific sections (pages/namespaces/categories??) to be viewed by users with certain user-rights. This will allow different Wikis to be merged into Meta without breaching each one's legitimate need for privacy.
These are just ideas, not definitely the best solution, but I do agree that the Board should address the fragmentation of community documentation and working-spaces.
I would prefer that WMF staff participated in public wikis, however that isnt always appropriate. I don’t think the board should be interferring with the WMF using private wikis for activities when the other options are Google Docs or MS Word docs. i.e. The board should be happy that the WMF uses free software over non-free software for internal operational discussion and document collaboration.
Communication/collaboration problems between WMF and the community are a symptom. The root problem is trust and understanding problems. In my experience, resolving communication problems before the underlying problems can only be partially achieved by team building exercises, and even that is infeasible for a loosely knit and geographically dispersed community like Wikimedia. In our movement, we need to tackle the root problems. See my answer to question 2.5 (above) by user:Schiste.
What will you leave to the WMF after being in the board?
If you're elected, what is the WMF/board going to gain that will survive your (last) term? --Nemo 07:35, 26 May 2013 (UTC) P.s.: I asked the two specific questions above because someone had to, but IMHO this is the question. "What imprint" perhaps is the word, feel free to correct my English.
With any luck, Id like to stress the importance of Wikipedia/Wikimedia as "academic," meaning that in the broadest sense of the world. You may notice that many of the candidates here are well-established participants in Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums (GLAM), the most successful "program" in the movement, and perhaps even more true to Wikipedia's origin than the encyclopedia! Perhaps because of the fact we have been jumped upon by educational/academic institutions and/or a desire to avoid elitism, we have not seriouly considered what we do to have educational or academic value. However, the parallels between Wikimedia and educational/academic institutions are more than fleeting. In addition, we need to attract people who have specialized knowledge in areas we are weak in. It is important for us and for academia to see the two organizations as complimentary, not competing much the way GLAM has been successfull with cultural organizations.
Speaking from experience... it's dangerous to make promises about what you'll get done in a term, since inevitably things arise that you hadn't thought of, and it is by definition impossible to do things alone on the Board: all ten people work towards consensus. That said, here's what I hope I could get done during another term that would survive:
- a better and smoother process for planning and approving annual and long term strategy, especially exploring ways to make it easier on WMF staff and make annual/long-term planning more iterative and open
- better communication between the board & the communit(ies), including making it easier for the board to conduct hard discussions publicly and for the community to propose resolutions
- a plan for an endowment (or a plan for a plan, at the very least!)
- stronger ties between Wikimedia and the library/archives community -- this is work that I'll do regardless of whether I'm on the Board, but being on the Board means that I'll have much greater reach and visibility to discuss the issue in both library settings and within Wikimedia.
Of course there's lots of other things that I want to see happen in the short term (sister project support! many more user groups! a great Wikimania committee!) but the above are the core issues that I'd try to focus on.
I promise if elected to serve as a member of the Board of Trustees at the ending of my tenure I will leave Wikimedia community with applauded of:
- reputation against Wikimedia and its projects in the eyes of society at any level,
- highly cooperation, equality and fairly between the continents,
- Cooperation between Creators and users of creative work,
- Based on the best growth of increasing revenue of Wikimedia Foundation
- Motivation to use Wikipedia pages and other projects,
- Respect for my continent of Africa to lead with integrity,
- Cooperation with other international organizations.
- Good Governance
I hope I can change WMF a bit, just a little bit friendlier towards the community, and more respect the local lesson & wisdom, not just from papers, from real talking & communications.
I will build consensus around a roadmap for long-term investing and endowment this year, by the end of my time on the Audit Committee this year. If I am on the Board I will move to have such a plan adopted.
I hope to leave an ethic of being a source of reliability and stability, avoiding changes that disrupt communities, and making any that might be disruptive as gradually and collaboratively as possible. As we welcome our new ED, I hope to preserve the spirit of public discussion around decision-making that Sue has promoted in her time at the Foundation.
Most importantly, I will also be actively involved with the strategic planning process that will replace the current five-year plan. I hope to leave behind a commitment to organizing our priorities and strategy as part of a movement-wide map. The process should be supported each year by the WMF, but owned by the movement. WMF-specific strategy – like that of other movement groups and communities – is part of that larger map. This one must be truly multilingual, as planning requires sharing complex thoughts and dreams: we will require better tools for cross-language discussion. I have written more about this here.
I think the board will gain new insight into the importance of chapters and affiliates. I'd like my term to result in a leaner and more responsive foundation, with deeper technical investment and closer links to the community.
In a broader sense I want to foster community input into the Foundation's strategy – by encouraging interest in their activities and continuing the open up communication channels. I'd like to end the term with the Foundation and community holding a unique long term strategy for the Wikimedia movement, with objectives broken down and distributed between stakeholders.
More than anything I'd like to see, during my term, a new model for affiliate organisations, well documented and supported by Foundation staff. I'd love to see multiple thematic organisations and many new geographical chapters and new collaborations between all of these groups, as part of the initiative.
After my term, I hope there will be
- Board of Trustee processes that require consultation with the community when appropriate, and that demands academic rigour in the design of any polls/referendum.
- A Board of Trustees with a revised composition that includes more experience and skills.(See example: User:John Vandenberg/WMF BoT candidature notes#Board of Trustees)
- A more coordinated and active Board of Trustees.