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- 01:06:52 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): There are currently 10 trustees (including 3 community ones), we're going to have 4 instead of 3 now, and getting to 16 will take definitely a longer time (probably over a year)
- 01:07:04 Youngjin Ko: Had network issue for beginning, Canadiates: Pleast TAKE ATTENTION to the chat while you are on speeach, we are sending warnings only though chat and NOT verbally notify you time warning unless time is up.
- 01:07:56 Pascale Camus-Walter: Hi ! I had difficulties to connect me to the meeting. I'm here now with a small screen.
- 01:08:25 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Hi Pascale, good to see you! Your video looks fine.
- 01:09:07 Iván Martínez: I'm glad you were able to connect, Pascale! Welcome
- 01:09:20 Pascale Camus-Walter: Sorry but with an iphone I cannot see the chat simulteanously with the screen...
- 01:09:37 Youngjin Ko: 1 min warning
- 01:10:07 Jackie Koerner (WMF facilitator): Please everyone, speak slowly when you do speak. We have live interpretation.
- 01:10:10 Chet Selvakumar: Tamil interpretation is really good! Thanks and Congratulations! Please record the interpretations was well.
- 01:10:15 Youngjin Ko: 30 sec warning, please finish it up!
- 01:10:23 Youngjin Ko: 15 sec warning, please finish it up!
- 01:10:36 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Not sure if it is possible to record interpretation :O
- 01:10:38 Youngjin Ko: time is up
- 01:11:21 Suyash Dwivedi - India: I cant see Hindi option
- 01:11:31 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: Nope, interpretations can't be recorded unfortunately :(
- 01:11:46 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Hindi ia fourth from the top
- 01:11:47 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: ^ Suyash ji click on interpretation symbol.
- 01:13:10 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:13:36 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
- 01:13:55 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
- 01:14:10 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME IS UP
- 01:14:55 Pascale Camus-Walter: When will be my tour ?
- 01:15:09 Ramzy M: Pascale: it's going to be according the alphabetical order.
- 01:15:25 Vicki Doronina: as in the first name
- 01:15:46 Suyash Dwivedi - India: Got it thanks
- 01:16:04 Pascale Camus-Walter: Yes but I don't know the list by heart. Can you write it in the chat ?
- 01:16:18 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Hold on
- 01:16:33 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit?usp=sharing
- 01:16:34 Youngjin Ko (WMF): See here
- 01:16:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 35 SECONDS left
- 01:17:19 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
- 01:17:33 Ashwin Baindur: Its good of we can have a countdown for each speaker in future because while speaking we cannot pay attention to chat.
- 01:17:54 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): I was a little surprised by the lack of 1 minute warning :D
- 01:18:12 Pascale Camus-Walter: Oh my goodness ! You take the first name for the order.. :-)
- 01:18:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I had to make a list for public sorry!
- 01:18:25 Youngjin Ko (WMF): The order list
- 01:18:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I will try to not make a mistake for future :)
- 01:19:12 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): no worries :)
- 01:20:52 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Sorry, I lost my network. Not on my mobile data!
- 01:21:28 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:21:49 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 SEC LEFT
- 01:23:08 Chet Selvakumar: Will the zoom recording be available for later viewing?
- 01:23:22 Ramzy M: Chet: Yes, it will be uploaded to Commons.
- 01:24:04 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:24:33 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
- 01:24:51 Khorshed Sakib: Can I get the recording?
- 01:25:34 Ramzy M: Khorshed: once it's uploaded to Commons, it's available for everyone.
- 01:26:07 Khorshed Sakib: Thanks
- 01:26:34 Chet Selvakumar: Thanks Ramzy!
- 01:26:49 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): The previous videos were placed on meta under the pages for respective meetings, e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/Candidates_meet_with_CEE_communities
- 01:28:31 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:29:01 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Please MUTE your microphone unless you are not speaking
- 01:29:05 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
- 01:29:22 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
- 01:31:38 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left\
- 01:32:09 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
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- 01:34:29 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:35:36 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: If participants have any questions that you would like candidates to answer during Q&A, please post them now (publicly or privately). We will freeze the list of questions before start the Q&A session.
- 01:36:37 KSV9: can we express our questions in chat to everyone ?
- 01:36:49 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:36:58 Jackie Koerner (WMF facilitator): You may, but I am collecting the questions.
- 01:37:11 Ramzy M: KSV9: you may, please do so after all candidates finished.
- 01:37:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
- 01:37:38 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
- 01:37:57 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME IS UP
- 01:37:59 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Questions - How you will ensure that there is no online harassment on Wikipedia which is a major discouraging reason for many editors to edit.
- 01:38:30 Shakil Hosen: Q. Although the number of contributors to Bengali-speaking projects has increased, the number of women contributors has not. What can be done to eliminate this gender inequality?
- 01:38:46 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Second question is - What are your thoughts about extreme left bias inherent in the structure of Wikipedia and which has grown at dangerous in last few years.
- 01:39:12 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Second question is - What are your thoughts about extreme left bias inherent in the structure of Wikipedia and which has grown at dangerous levels in last few years.
- 01:39:17 Rektz Ruiz: Q. How would you ensure neutrality in Wikipedia where we prevent both extreme left and right content.
- 01:39:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:41:39 Aishwaryam Tomar: QUESTION-What can we do to solve problems of Politically or ill motivated articles? Why are British Era sources not accepted? at least we can get some information from them?
- 01:42:26 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
- 01:43:05 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 20 SECONDS
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- 01:43:14 Chet Selvakumar: Q:How would you support (with projects and organizational support) the minority language Wikipedias?
- 01:43:44 Vicki Doronina: Where are the British era (19 - 20 century?) are not accepted?
- 01:44:43 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): +1 for randomizing the order of candidates, for each question if possible
- 01:44:59 Mike peel: I’ll write answers to the questions on the wiki talk page, I won’t answer them on this video call - sorry.
- 01:44:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
- 01:45:02 Jackie (send questions): Thanks everyone - I have seen questions sent previously privately and publicly. No need to send them again.
- 01:45:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): We will back in 8:28
- 01:45:38 Pascale Camus-Walter: Where do you post the new random list ?
- 01:45:44 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
- 01:45:51 Youngjin Ko (WMF): ^ see second page
- 01:49:05 Recto Jr. Ruiz: Q. Should everyone that wish to edit Wikipedia or affiliates have a registered account
- 01:49:46 Mike peel: I’ve posted my answers to the three initial questions at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Mike_Peel - will add answers to the others when they’re announced.
- 01:49:49 HUAWEI Y5 2019: Yes. It is necessary in todays time to tackle fake news
- 01:50:50 Ashwin Baindur: A total of 61 questions from community are answered here. Community members are advised to look up the answers here.
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Candidates/Community_Questions
- 01:50:53 Chet Selvakumar: What can you do to accept evidence from non-English non-European languages, especially if the topic is in that non-English, non-European language?
- 01:51:51 Ashwin Baindur: A select 11 questions are answered by every candidate here:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Candidates/CandidateQ%26A
- 01:54:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Interpreters: are you guys ready to resume?
- 01:55:03 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: We will start in a couple of minutes.
- 01:55:06 Vicki Doronina: and some additional questions, you can find the link at the bottom of the page with questions
- 01:57:45 Mike peel: I’ve answered all 5 questions on the meeting talk page now.
- 01:59:07 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
- 01:59:14 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Once again for order...
- 01:59:18 Mike peel: I’m going to disconnect now, sorry, but please feel free to ask more questions on the talk page, and I’ll answer them there.
- 01:59:22 Mike peel: Have a good rest of the meeting!
- 01:59:44 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): take care, Mike!
- 01:59:53 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: See you Mike! Take care!
- 02:00:23 Vicki Doronina: get well, Mike
- 02:00:36 Vicki Doronina: it was great to see you
- 02:02:15 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 2 min 30 seconds left
- 02:04:18 Iván Martínez: Oh I had more time :/ I just read “seconds left” :P
- 02:04:50 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): yeah, it is super difficult to load-balance 5 minutes across 5 questions…
- 02:05:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I will give two min warning instead of 2.5
- 02:05:14 Youngjin Ko (WMF): better?
- 02:05:22 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Rosie: +10 points for the cat <3
- 02:06:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME [50%] 2min 30 seconds
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- 02:08:06 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 seconds
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- 02:11:08 Iván Martínez: No worries Krishna! I’m fine :)
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- 02:13:22 Khorshed Sakib: Bangla interpretation is terrible
- 02:13:30 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS WARNING, please finish it up!
- 02:14:12 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Time is an issue to keep it slow, Krishna. :)
- 02:14:23 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: 5 questions in 5 min. ;-)
- 02:16:59 Jackie (send questions): Certainly understood. Candidates may choose to skip questions if needed. Speaking more slowly for people who speak English quickly is important so the message gets to voters.
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- 02:19:07 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS WARNING, please finish it up!
- 02:19:19 Ravishankar Ayyakkannu: Can I invite community members to join this Zoom call without registration now?
- 02:19:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
- 02:21:52 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): I apologize again for speaking too fast - I posted my replies on meta:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Dariusz_Jemielniak
- 02:23:01 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
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- 02:24:38 sheikh abdullah: nice discussion
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- 02:25:27 sheikh abdullah: nice discussion
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- 02:32:19 RamzyM (WMF): [Lorenzo] TIME: 2 minutes 30 seconds left
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- 02:40:09 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 ㄴㄷㅊ
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- 02:47:58 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): A fun idea I wanted to share regarding propaganda / fake news: imagine we partnered with journalists and shared lists of edits the community has identified as likely paid promotional editing. The publicity would make it much more expensive to inject propaganda...
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- 02:51:07 Pascale Camus-Walter: This is already done by a specific project on the francophone Wikipedia : the list of paid editings are published regularly
- 02:51:37 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): ^ amazing, thanks for the pointer @Pascale!
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- 02:55:19 lorenzo: I've published my answers on: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Lorenzo_Losa (other candidates already did the same)
- 02:55:23 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: My responses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Pavan_Santhosh_Surampudi
- 02:55:28 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Thank you!
- 02:57:29 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
- 02:57:37 Pascale Camus-Walter: @Adam : there is an anti-pub month where people "de-pub" (remove) promotional contents : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Mois_anti-pub
- 03:00:16 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her): @Pascale - Thanks for sharing this link. I wasn’t aware the French Wikipedia had such a campaign. Will look at it more closely later today.
- 03:01:00 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
- 03:01:04 Pascale Camus-Walter: My pleasure ! Jules makes a great work.
- 03:01:23 Iván Martínez: @Adam Facebook and Twitter are obligated in some countries to reveal their public funded ads in a public website. Not a crazy idea for Wikipedia
- 03:02:01 Iván Martínez: @Pascale Interesting! Sounds like a good example to follow
- 03:02:09 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): Well, the terms of service already say you must reveal.
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- 03:03:03 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 Seconds
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- 03:03:18 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Interesting idea @Pascale! Thanks for sharing!
- 03:03:21 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): BTW, from my work on the ORES (Scoring Platform) team, I can say that machine learning should be able to help a lot with identifying propaganda.
- 03:03:51 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: +1 Adam; There will always be patterns to look in propaganda.
- 03:04:16 Vinicius Siqueira: @Adam: this is a good thing to be funded
- 03:04:43 RamzyM (WMF): 1. Meta talk page for South Asia + ESEAP meeting: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP
- 2. Aug 1 Americas meeting: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
- 3. Voting rules and mechanism page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
- 03:05:14 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Thanks participants for listening.
- 03:05:15 Jackie (send questions): Thanks all!
- 03:05:15 Ravishankar Ayyakkannu: Thanks