Wikimedia Canada/Meetings/2008-03-05

Organization Meeting of Wikimedia Canada
Fifth Formal Formation Meeting
Date: March 5, 2008 (Wednesday)
Time: 20:00 EST (1:00 UTC)
Venue: #wikimedia-ca
Who should attend: The Steering Committee and anyone interested in helping form Wikimedia Canada.
Agenda

Page organization
Logo
Bylaws
Wikimania
Defining the role of the Steering Committee
Summary

Coming soon.
Log

Note from the Secretary: These logs do not contain the full meeting. As you may read near the beginning of the logs, Teamspeak was suggested as a new method of communication tonight. Though not everyone had a microphone, most that were present listened to the voice chat and responded via IRC (on wikimedia-ca on freenode). Please read the summary for details on what went on. For the next meeting, where Teamspeak will (hopefully!) be the primary method of communication, I will try to post an audio version of the meeting, though I will check with everyone to make sure that doing so is okay with them. Mitchell (Greeves) ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Won't the file be too big so it will take a long time to upload or download? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 23:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Logs (long!)
All times are UTC -6.
[2008-03-05 18:53:25] <cary> Someone should create a Wikimedia Canada group on facebook
[2008-03-05 18:53:27] <cary> just a thought
[2008-03-05 18:53:29] * cary hides
[2008-03-05 18:53:43] =-= Mitchell has changed the topic to ``Welcome to the Wikimedia Canada (WMC) IRC channel! | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMC | Steering Committee members are voiced. | The next meeting is starting in this channel for a few minutes for anyone interested in the formation of WMC. For more information or to RSVP, please see http://tinyurl.com/yonojc .''
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[2008-03-05 18:54:17] <Arctic> I'm with cary on the facebook thing.
[2008-03-05 18:54:25] |<-- Arctic has left irc.freenode.net (Client Quit)
[2008-03-05 18:54:31] * Mitchell agrees
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[2008-03-05 18:55:20] <Ayelie> Indeed, brilliant idea
[2008-03-05 18:55:36] * Ayelie wonders if she should take over that as part of webmastering duties? :D
[2008-03-05 18:55:56] * Mitchell bows down to mighty webmaster ;)
[2008-03-05 18:55:59] <Ayelie> Mitchell are you and I friends on facebook?
[2008-03-05 18:56:10] <Mitchell> nope
[2008-03-05 18:56:15] <Ayelie> I can't remember, I'm always getting wiki people attacking me and can't recall who is who with usernames and such
[2008-03-05 18:56:25] <cary> Ayelie: we are friends
[2008-03-05 18:56:51] <Ayelie> cary: yes I know you and I are, you were the 2nd person who added me :P
[2008-03-05 18:57:07] <Ayelie> Mitchell: search "Ayelie Ayelie" and you'll find me ;)
[2008-03-05 18:57:38] * kibble thinks he's Ayelie 's friend
[2008-03-05 18:57:49] <Ayelie> kibble yes you are :)
[2008-03-05 18:57:55] <kibble> :-D \o/
[2008-03-05 18:58:48] <cary> Oh, i haven't passed out any green patches lately
[2008-03-05 18:59:00] * Mitchell wonders where HOTR, Alan, and Andrew L are
[2008-03-05 18:59:08] <Ayelie> Non-profit organizations or volunteer organizations, do you think?
[2008-03-05 18:59:15] * Ayelie is trying to figure out which category we'd fit in
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[2008-03-05 18:59:40] <Mitchell> Alan!! :)
[2008-03-05 18:59:43] <kibble> speak of the devil
[2008-03-05 18:59:45] <kibble> it's alan
[2008-03-05 18:59:46] <Arctic> Wikipedians would be volunteer, but this would be non-profit
[2008-03-05 19:00:07] <Alan_Ca> Hi Everyone
[2008-03-05 19:00:12] <Ayelie> Arctic: yes I think that's probably best
[2008-03-05 19:00:27] * kibble pokes Alan_Ca to /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[2008-03-05 19:00:33] =-= Arctic is now known as Arctic_Gnome
[2008-03-05 19:00:35] =-= Mode #wikimedia-ca +v Alan_Ca  by ChanServ
[2008-03-05 19:00:44] <kibble> or we can just have mitchell do that
[2008-03-05 19:00:48] <Alan_Ca> My computer is lagging at the moment
[2008-03-05 19:01:23] <Alan_Ca> ok
[2008-03-05 19:01:32] <Alan_Ca> I have an idea about how we can meet
[2008-03-05 19:01:35] <Alan_Ca> Have any of you heard of teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:02:03] <Mitchell> I think I might have
[2008-03-05 19:02:14] <Mitchell> Is it that voice thing that computer gamers use?
[2008-03-05 19:02:17] <Alan_Ca> yes
[2008-03-05 19:02:27] <Alan_Ca> A friend has a server and said we could use it
[2008-03-05 19:02:34] <Alan_Ca> The client is downloadable from here: http://www.goteamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[2008-03-05 19:02:54] <Ayelie> What about skype?
[2008-03-05 19:03:11] * kibble seconds Ayelie
[2008-03-05 19:03:17] <Arctic_Gnome> You think your computer will lag less with voice than with text?
[2008-03-05 19:03:19] * Az1568 thirds
[2008-03-05 19:03:26] <Alan_Ca> I have never used skype
[2008-03-05 19:03:26] * Mitchell hasn't used either but has heard of both
[2008-03-05 19:03:32] <Alan_Ca> It conferences well?
[2008-03-05 19:03:36] <Ayelie> Skype's quality is very good
[2008-03-05 19:03:42] <Az1568> yep :)
[2008-03-05 19:03:43] <Ayelie> and conferences are good too
[2008-03-05 19:03:58] <Mitchell> I heard Skype is amazing for quality
[2008-03-05 19:04:09] <Ayelie> Mitchell: sounds like talking on the telephone with people
[2008-03-05 19:04:17] * Mitchell gasps
[2008-03-05 19:04:20] <Mitchell> wow
[2008-03-05 19:04:21] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 19:04:22] <Ayelie> I use it to talk to friends in Australia and in Hawaii, it's great :D
[2008-03-05 19:04:32] <Az1568> :D
[2008-03-05 19:04:37] <Alan_Ca> Skype says it is capped at 9 max
[2008-03-05 19:04:47] <Mitchell> 9 people
[2008-03-05 19:04:48] <Mitchell> ?
[2008-03-05 19:04:50] <Alan_Ca> yes
[2008-03-05 19:04:56] <Ayelie> Mitchell: it's better than that crappy crackly stuff some programs try to push over on you :P
[2008-03-05 19:05:06] <Alan_Ca> Well teamspeak is clear
[2008-03-05 19:05:10] <Alan_Ca> and I have never seen it hit a limit
[2008-03-05 19:05:40] * kibble wonders if this replaces IRC or in addition to
[2008-03-05 19:05:49] <kibble> i.e. some meeting on irc, some in person, some orally
[2008-03-05 19:05:50] <Alan_Ca> It's something to try
[2008-03-05 19:06:07] <Mitchell> Indeed
[2008-03-05 19:06:17] <Arctic_Gnome> How would we keep a log of the meeting if we used voice?
[2008-03-05 19:06:32] <kibble> O_O
[2008-03-05 19:06:34] <kibble> good point
[2008-03-05 19:06:36] <Mitchell> We couldn't really, but I could summarize it.
[2008-03-05 19:06:42] <Alan_Ca> They can be recorded
[2008-03-05 19:06:43] <Ayelie> Arctic_Gnome: someone would have to either record it or keep minutes
[2008-03-05 19:06:51] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: skype also allows text input
[2008-03-05 19:06:53] <Alan_Ca> But I would like to talk with people
[2008-03-05 19:06:56] <Ayelie> for those who dont' have a microphone
[2008-03-05 19:07:06] <Ayelie> plus it's useful for including links
[2008-03-05 19:07:11] <Alan_Ca> we have done some setup here on irc, but it would be nice to say hello
[2008-03-05 19:07:21] <Arctic_Gnome> I assume someone here is good enough at typing to keep minutes while talking.
[2008-03-05 19:07:31] <Mitchell> Yep
[2008-03-05 19:08:17] <Alan_Ca> So
[2008-03-05 19:08:30] <Alan_Ca> how many people are going to join us for a talk?
[2008-03-05 19:08:41] <Ayelie> right now?
[2008-03-05 19:08:43] <Mitchell> On a later date?
[2008-03-05 19:08:46] <Ayelie> or at some point in the future?
[2008-03-05 19:09:01] <Alan_Ca> Tonight
[2008-03-05 19:09:05] <Ayelie> um.
[2008-03-05 19:09:15] <Alan_Ca> I'd like to get it set up
[2008-03-05 19:09:18] <Mitchell> I don't have Skype or TeamSpeak at the moment.
[2008-03-05 19:09:24] <Ayelie> I'd have to set up my headset and figure out how teamspeak works...
[2008-03-05 19:09:30] <Alan_Ca> Ok
[2008-03-05 19:09:34] <Mitchell> Would we be able to do it next Wednesday?
[2008-03-05 19:09:37] <Alan_Ca> Could we give it a 10 minute effort?
[2008-03-05 19:09:44] <Alan_Ca> The agenda is really short tonight
[2008-03-05 19:09:51] <Alan_Ca> and my biggest concern at this point is uniting the team
[2008-03-05 19:09:56] <kibble> can we try it at the end?
[2008-03-05 19:10:01] <Alan_Ca> I think establishing a voice comm would be a good step
[2008-03-05 19:10:05] <Alan_Ca> Sure we can do it at the end
[2008-03-05 19:10:22] <Alan_Ca> But before we move on with the meeting, I'm curious how many people other than the steer comm members are interested?
[2008-03-05 19:10:30] <Mitchell> me possibly
[2008-03-05 19:10:47] <Mitchell> I just checked, and it looks like I have TeamSPeak on my computer already.
[2008-03-05 19:10:49] <Alan_Ca> anyone who is interested start downloading the client: http://www.goteamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[2008-03-05 19:10:50] * Mitchell gasps
[2008-03-05 19:10:51] <Arctic_Gnome> Whenever I have Wednesdays free.
[2008-03-05 19:10:54] <Ayelie> I'll be right back, 2mins but yes I'm interested
[2008-03-05 19:10:56] <yanstheman> i'm not that interested in downloading a program right now.... i don't even have a microphone
[2008-03-05 19:11:04] <Alan_Ca> ok yans...
[2008-03-05 19:11:04] <Mitchell> I don't have a mic working right now
[2008-03-05 19:11:10] <Alan_Ca> shoot
[2008-03-05 19:11:16] <Alan_Ca> I know it's a bit surprise here I am
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[2008-03-05 19:11:28] <Alan_Ca> but ... I have been thinking about this a lot
[2008-03-05 19:11:39] <Mitchell> I can get a mic working in the next few days.
[2008-03-05 19:11:46] <Alan_Ca> ok Mitchell
[2008-03-05 19:11:52] <Alan_Ca> maybe I will just meet ayelie there
[2008-03-05 19:11:59] <Arctic_Gnome> I would vote for Skype over teamspeak, but either works.
[2008-03-05 19:12:10] <Alan_Ca> We may try both
[2008-03-05 19:12:16] <Ayelie> alright I'm back and headset is set up
[2008-03-05 19:12:19] <Alan_Ca> As skype has the limit
[2008-03-05 19:12:24] <Alan_Ca> I'd like to do teamspeak first
[2008-03-05 19:12:25] <Ayelie> but I'm not on skype or teamspeak right now
[2008-03-05 19:12:29] <Alan_Ca> that's ok
[2008-03-05 19:12:33] <Alan_Ca> the url is: http://www.goteamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[2008-03-05 19:12:38] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca is it just you and me? because if it is we  might as well wait for another night
[2008-03-05 19:12:41] <Alan_Ca> anyone who is interested start the download
[2008-03-05 19:12:44] <Mitchell> I can listen for now
[2008-03-05 19:12:50] <Alan_Ca> I'd like to meet you anyway ayelie
[2008-03-05 19:12:53] <Alan_Ca> so it's nothing wasted
[2008-03-05 19:12:55] <Mitchell> What is the server info, etc.?
[2008-03-05 19:13:30] <Alan_Ca> 68azts.acorndata.ca, port 8803
[2008-03-05 19:13:47] <Mitchell> I'll try...
[2008-03-05 19:13:53] <Mitchell> 1 sec
[2008-03-05 19:14:12] <Mitchell> My comp may crash
[2008-03-05 19:15:43] <Alan_Ca> ok
[2008-03-05 19:15:54] <Alan_Ca> So anyone interested, please download the client the background
[2008-03-05 19:15:58] <Alan_Ca> And we can move on with our agenda
[2008-03-05 19:16:31] <Mitchell> [19:16:21] No reply from server
[2008-03-05 19:16:31] <Mitchell> Maybe the server is offline
[2008-03-05 19:16:31] <Mitchell> or maybe teamspeak is not running on it
[2008-03-05 19:16:43] <Mitchell> I tried twice
[2008-03-05 19:16:50] <Mitchell> That was the error
[2008-03-05 19:16:50] <Alan_Ca> 209.246.143.202:8803
[2008-03-05 19:16:53] <Alan_Ca> try that
[2008-03-05 19:16:55] * Mitchell will try
[2008-03-05 19:17:46] <Alan_Ca> ok Mitchell made it on to team speak ayelie
[2008-03-05 19:17:54] <Mitchell> :)
[2008-03-05 19:17:57] <Mitchell> no mic though
[2008-03-05 19:18:06] <Ayelie> I can't figure out how the heck it works :D
[2008-03-05 19:18:35] <Alan_Ca> Did you download it?
[2008-03-05 19:18:39] <Ayelie> I got an error, said name/password wrong? 
[2008-03-05 19:18:41] <Ayelie> yes
[2008-03-05 19:18:50] <Alan_Ca> Don't use registered
[2008-03-05 19:18:52] <Alan_Ca> use unregistered
[2008-03-05 19:19:01] <Mitchell> Hi Ayelie!
[2008-03-05 19:19:09] <Mitchell> I have no mic though :(
[2008-03-05 19:19:17] <Mitchell> Hi Arctic
[2008-03-05 19:20:28] <Mitchell> Does Teamspeak allow typing?
[2008-03-05 19:20:32] <Alan_Ca> So the first item on the agenda is the page organization
[2008-03-05 19:20:33] <Ayelie> Did I ever mention I hate voice? :D
[2008-03-05 19:20:45] * Ayelie has phonophobia no joke D8
[2008-03-05 19:21:17] <Ayelie> Alright, page organization
[2008-03-05 19:21:24] <Ayelie> I'm typing because it's easier to think on one level :P
[2008-03-05 19:21:27] <Alan_Ca> (waiting on Ayelie's presentation)
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[2008-03-05 19:21:34] <Ayelie> Original page is here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Canada
[2008-03-05 19:21:41] <Ayelie> it's sort of confusing, a lot of extra info
[2008-03-05 19:22:02] <Ayelie> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Greeves/WMC <-- there was a test layout done there
[2008-03-05 19:22:05] <Ktsquare> Is the meeting ongoing?
[2008-03-05 19:22:14] <Alan_Ca> Yes Ktsquare
[2008-03-05 19:22:16] <Ayelie> which was great, I used elements of that for a simple layout design
[2008-03-05 19:22:34] <Ayelie> my initial plain boring empty draft is here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Canada/Draft
[2008-03-05 19:22:43] <Ayelie> Please click "edit" and view the code
[2008-03-05 19:22:54] <Mitchell> Note: You can now use [[Wikilinks]]
[2008-03-05 19:22:55] <Wikilinker> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilinks
[2008-03-05 19:23:15] <Ayelie> There will be more elements added, tonight I want to get ideas from people on what to include on the front page that isn't there already :)
[2008-03-05 19:23:42] <Ktsquare> teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:24:03] <Mitchell> Yes
[2008-03-05 19:24:14] <Mitchell> Ktsquare: 209.246.143.202:8803
[2008-03-05 19:24:26] <Ktsquare> eh?
[2008-03-05 19:24:44] <Mitchell> We're trying it out tonight
[2008-03-05 19:25:29] <Ktsquare> You meant this: http://www.teamspeak.com/
[2008-03-05 19:25:49] <Mitchell> Yes
[2008-03-05 19:27:46] === #wikimedia-ca: Ktsquare +Alan_Ca Arctic_Gnome Iradigalesc +Ayelie yanstheman kibble Warpath Az1568 idealites Wikilinker @ChanServ +Mitchell 
[2008-03-05 19:27:46] --- #wikimedia-ca: End of /NAMES list.
[2008-03-05 19:27:59] <Mitchell> Ktsquare +Alan_Ca Arctic_Gnome Iradigalesc +Ayelie yanstheman kibble Warpath Az1568 idealites Wikilinker @ChanServ +Mitchell 
[2008-03-05 19:28:03] <Mitchell> The meeting has started
[2008-03-05 19:28:06] <Mitchell> FYI
[2008-03-05 19:28:10] <Mitchell> It's in Teamspeak
[2008-03-05 19:28:21] <yanstheman> so it's only going to be in teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:28:25] <--| Iradigalesc has left #wikimedia-ca ("Time makes no sense")
[2008-03-05 19:28:29] <Mitchell> I'm not sure
[2008-03-05 19:28:40] <Mitchell> I hope not: my mic isn't working.
[2008-03-05 19:28:40] <yanstheman> if so, i'm going to take off... just wanted to know...
[2008-03-05 19:28:47] <Ktsquare> I am installing it. BTW please don't expose my personal info. thanx
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[2008-03-05 19:29:29] <yanstheman> I take it from the silence that the meeting is going on now in TeamSpeak.....
[2008-03-05 19:30:02] <Mitchell> Hold on
[2008-03-05 19:30:07] <Arctic_Gnome> They're debating the layout of a draft page.
[2008-03-05 19:30:09] <Mitchell> I think we're coming back
[2008-03-05 19:30:14] <Ayelie> Back
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[2008-03-05 19:30:37] <Mitchell> Is there a way of sending text to the teamspeak channel>
[2008-03-05 19:30:39] <Mitchell> *?
[2008-03-05 19:31:02] <Ktsquare> Is there a way of sending text to the teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:31:06] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca it's confusing as hell :P
[2008-03-05 19:31:08] <Alan_Ca> Yes, but let's talk here
[2008-03-05 19:31:14] <Alan_Ca> type here
[2008-03-05 19:31:15] <Mitchell> Lets
[2008-03-05 19:31:18] <Ayelie> I have my mic muted so I don't talk by accident :P
[2008-03-05 19:31:53] <Alan_Ca> So we talked on teamspeak
[2008-03-05 19:32:18] <Alan_Ca> Ayelie has taken my feedback on her design
[2008-03-05 19:32:23] <Alan_Ca> Does anyone else have any comments
[2008-03-05 19:32:50] <Ayelie> everyone: draft is here, just for clarity: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Canada/Draft
[2008-03-05 19:33:22] <Mitchell> Looks good
[2008-03-05 19:33:39] <kibble> Mitchell: is it too late to add something to the agenda?
[2008-03-05 19:33:51] <Mitchell> not really, as long as its apter page org
[2008-03-05 19:33:55] <Mitchell> *after
[2008-03-05 19:33:57] <kibble> yep
[2008-03-05 19:34:36] <Ktsquare> who is speaking at this moment at teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:34:45] <Mitchell> I am hearing on TS
[2008-03-05 19:34:49] <Mitchell> not speaking
[2008-03-05 19:34:50] <Ayelie> Ktsquare: me and Alan were speaking
[2008-03-05 19:34:57] <Ktsquare> I heard a lady and a male voice
[2008-03-05 19:34:59] <Ktsquare> ok
[2008-03-05 19:35:32] <Ktsquare> ok, Thanx for the explanation
[2008-03-05 19:35:39] <Ayelie> Ktsquare: no prob :)
[2008-03-05 19:35:41] <Alan_Ca> Kibble, msg me with your agenda item
[2008-03-05 19:35:49] <Mitchell> He added it
[2008-03-05 19:35:52] <Ayelie> everyone: please list ideas for anything you think should be on the main page
[2008-03-05 19:35:56] <Ktsquare> I am not too picky with the choice of words... LOL
[2008-03-05 19:36:02] <Mitchell> !tinyurl http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Canada/Meetings/2008-03-05&diff=904601&oldid=904577&rcid=935710
[2008-03-05 19:36:04] <Wikilinker> Mitchell: http://tinyurl.com/373xvb
[2008-03-05 19:36:23] <yanstheman> a "What's new/current" section would be useful.
[2008-03-05 19:36:43] <yanstheman> i don't know if the red box at the top is just for now or not... but something prominent and easy to find
[2008-03-05 19:36:46] <Mitchell> I'll guess Wikimanua 2009
[2008-03-05 19:36:50] <Mitchell> To thopse on TS
[2008-03-05 19:36:51] <Ayelie> yanstheman: on the news section
[2008-03-05 19:36:52] <Mitchell> *those
[2008-03-05 19:37:00] <Ayelie> if you click "Edit" you'll see there's a section for that
[2008-03-05 19:37:10] <Ayelie> if you input text into the |news= section a header will pop up
[2008-03-05 19:37:19] <Ayelie> if there is no text there is no "news" section
[2008-03-05 19:37:34] <yanstheman> oh, okay, didn't realize there were parts not showing....
[2008-03-05 19:37:51] <Ayelie> yanstheman: it's all part of keeping it concise and easy to update :D
[2008-03-05 19:38:34] <yanstheman> Ayelie: that's fine
[2008-03-05 19:40:07] <Mitchell> yes Alan
[2008-03-05 19:40:45] <Ktsquare> I seems not able to speak via my mic
[2008-03-05 19:41:00] <Ayelie> Ktsquare :( is it hooked up properly to the computer? :/
[2008-03-05 19:41:14] <Mitchell> Alan: I can mention it.
[2008-03-05 19:41:26] <Mitchell> Ayelie: Alright.
[2008-03-05 19:41:27] * kibble buys Mitchell a microphone
[2008-03-05 19:41:30] <Mitchell> lol
[2008-03-05 19:41:33] <Ayelie> Mitchell: :)
[2008-03-05 19:42:08] <Alan_Ca> We're now moving on to the logo discussion
[2008-03-05 19:42:12] <Mitchell> in IRC
[2008-03-05 19:42:16] <Ayelie> here! yes
[2008-03-05 19:42:17] <Alan_Ca> Ayelie, you had some thoughts on the logo?
[2008-03-05 19:42:30] <Ayelie> I don't have any that are different from last week's, no
[2008-03-05 19:42:51] * kibble accuses Az1568
[2008-03-05 19:43:05] <Az1568> not me :)
[2008-03-05 19:43:10] <kibble> not me either
[2008-03-05 19:43:22] <Alan_Ca> On the logo issue, do we need to revisit it tonight?
[2008-03-05 19:43:37] * kibble listens t Rhianna while he waits for Ayelie 's logo update
[2008-03-05 19:43:38] <Ayelie> As of last week we had decided we'd wait and see what news we get from the chapters committee on the logo
[2008-03-05 19:43:39] <Alan_Ca> IS there anyone who wants to discuss any aspect of it or can we leave it where it was as something for future thought?
[2008-03-05 19:43:47] <kibble> oh wait
[2008-03-05 19:43:49] <Ayelie> it was established that we weren't able to use the ideas I'd put forth
[2008-03-05 19:43:50] <kibble> I should fetch andrew
[2008-03-05 19:43:58] <Ayelie> because they were too close to the foundation logo...
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[2008-03-05 19:44:10] <Ayelie> as for a secondary logo, we haven't decided whether we want to go with that or not
[2008-03-05 19:44:14] <kibble> :-D
[2008-03-05 19:44:20] <Mitchell> Andrew W!
[2008-03-05 19:44:22] <Mitchell> :)
[2008-03-05 19:44:34] <wknight8111> hello!
[2008-03-05 19:44:42] <wknight8111> sorry, my head hasn't been screwed on correctly lately
[2008-03-05 19:45:01] <Alan_Ca> That's ok
[2008-03-05 19:45:05] <Alan_Ca> Do you have teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 19:45:10] <Alan_Ca> We're talking voice right now
[2008-03-05 19:45:10] * kibble re-screws wknight8111 's head
[2008-03-05 19:45:11] <Alan_Ca> In addition to irc
[2008-03-05 19:45:12] <kibble> wait
[2008-03-05 19:45:12] <wknight8111> teamspeak? no
[2008-03-05 19:45:14] <kibble> :'(
[2008-03-05 19:45:37] <Mitchell> Could we keep the discussion primarily on IRC (until next week)?
[2008-03-05 19:46:07] <kibble> wknight8111: it took me like two seconds to install, and it seems pretty cool http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[2008-03-05 19:46:18] <wknight8111> I'll take a look at it
[2008-03-05 19:48:06] <wknight8111> my computer here doesnt have a microphone or speakers
[2008-03-05 19:48:14] <wknight8111> it's the stoneage at whiteknight's house
[2008-03-05 19:49:27] <kibble> :-)
[2008-03-05 19:49:29] * kibble wonders what he's missed
[2008-03-05 19:49:32] <Alan_Ca> sorry just a moment
[2008-03-05 19:49:33] <kibble> I had to answer the phone
[2008-03-05 19:49:54] <Alan_Ca> Wknight8111: Can we design our own official logo?
[2008-03-05 19:50:02] <Alan_Ca> Will that impede our approval as a Wikimedia Chapter?
[2008-03-05 19:50:34] <wknight8111> depends on the design. I would need to see what you are planning so I will know if it's appropriate
[2008-03-05 19:50:36] <Ktsquare> I can join your conversation on teamspeak though I hear the discussion
[2008-03-05 19:50:43] <Ktsquare> typo
[2008-03-05 19:50:51] <Ktsquare> I can't join
[2008-03-05 19:51:04] <Mitchell> Ayelie and Alan: I would prefer one logo for now.
[2008-03-05 19:51:22] <Mitchell> Alan: Indeed
[2008-03-05 19:51:34] <wknight8111> the logo issue won't preclude you from becoming a chapter
[2008-03-05 19:52:22] <wknight8111> the preference is that you use the official WMF logo, but that's not a strict requirement.
[2008-03-05 19:52:25] <Alan_Ca> Wknight, have you discussed this with Delphine?
[2008-03-05 19:52:38] <Ktsquare> in private?
[2008-03-05 19:52:48] <wknight8111> Briefly. Delphine has been mostly incommunicato
[2008-03-05 19:52:48] <Mitchell> I think she is on leave, Alan.
[2008-03-05 19:52:48] <kibble> yep, Ayelie 
[2008-03-05 19:52:57] <kibble> Mitchell: she's semi-on leave
[2008-03-05 19:53:07] <kibble> still popping-in when needed :-)
[2008-03-05 19:53:17] <kibble> but you're right, officially she' s on leave :-P
[2008-03-05 19:53:27] <Alan_Ca> Wknight, if we use the wikimedia approved logo, can we sell t-shirts, etc with it on it?
[2008-03-05 19:53:46] <Mitchell> Ayelie: I think other chapters have used the logo on tshirts.
[2008-03-05 19:54:05] * kibble thinks so too, Mitchell
[2008-03-05 19:54:18] <Ayelie> Mitchell: we can as long as we're not selling them :P
[2008-03-05 19:54:41] <Mitchell> I could've sworn another chapter was selling them.
[2008-03-05 19:54:53] * Mitchell can't remember which chapter
[2008-03-05 19:55:07] <kibble> Ayelie: I am pretty sure we can
[2008-03-05 19:55:19] <kibble> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation -> the agreement
[2008-03-05 19:55:45] <kibble> O_O
[2008-03-05 19:55:48] * kibble was aha'ed at
[2008-03-05 19:55:52] <Mitchell> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation Section 5
[2008-03-05 19:56:19] <Mitchell> 5.2. The Foundation hereby authorises the Chapter to utilise these additional marks free of any payment or royalties, solely for their own use in publicity, fundraising, media relations and management.
[2008-03-05 19:56:26] <wknight8111> I'm having a hard time finding specific information on that Alan. information is hard to come by
[2008-03-05 19:56:35] <wknight8111> and it doesnt help that some of the older policy documents appear to be contradictory
[2008-03-05 19:57:26] <kibble> Ayelie: that shouldn't be aproblem
[2008-03-05 19:57:31] <Mitchell> Ayelie: See http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation Section 5
[2008-03-05 19:57:33] <kibble> and could probably be decided at a later date
[2008-03-05 19:57:37] <Mitchell> That's the agreement
[2008-03-05 19:57:37] <Ktsquare> 4.7. Commercial use of the Wikimedia name, logo, or localised logo shall be subject to the terms of a separate trademark agreement between the two parties.
[2008-03-05 19:57:54] <kibble> i.e. if you're their amigos, they'll probably be easier to get into an agreement with
[2008-03-05 19:58:14] <kibble> Alan_Ca: perhaps we should just use the main logo (bland one)
[2008-03-05 19:58:21] <kibble> when we're created and then we can do something else later if need be
[2008-03-05 19:59:31] <Mitchell> We could ask Pyb in #wikimedia-fr as he is Chair of WM France
[2008-03-05 19:59:44] <kibble> we could ask Pierre in #wikimedia ;-)
[2008-03-05 19:59:58] <kibble> we can even invite him in here! :-)
[2008-03-05 20:00:11] <Mitchell> Alan, Ayelie, your thoughts on invites?
[2008-03-05 20:00:19] <kibble> Ayelie: I'd think so
[2008-03-05 20:01:35] <kibble> hmm, sex toys
[2008-03-05 20:01:35] <Mitchell> Alan: LOL
[2008-03-05 20:01:43] <Az1568> lol
[2008-03-05 20:01:45] <Mitchell> Ayelie: Agreed
[2008-03-05 20:01:47] <Ayelie> XD
[2008-03-05 20:02:00] <Ktsquare> :)
[2008-03-05 20:02:20] <kibble> next agenda item is bylaws
[2008-03-05 20:02:22] <kibble> but we don't have HOTR
[2008-03-05 20:02:28] <Alan_Ca> Any objection to my statement on closing the logo issue?
[2008-03-05 20:02:34] <Ktsquare> HOTR?
[2008-03-05 20:02:36] <kibble> Alan_Ca: nope
[2008-03-05 20:02:39] <Ktsquare> I agree
[2008-03-05 20:02:56] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: your keyboard is very loud :P
[2008-03-05 20:02:59] <Alan_Ca> Ok, Mitchell please make certain the summary page addresses the discussion
[2008-03-05 20:03:01] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:03:07] <Mitchell> Alan: Yep
[2008-03-05 20:03:46] <Ayelie> IRC please!
[2008-03-05 20:03:56] <Mitchell> Can we continue the discussion on IRC, Alan?
[2008-03-05 20:04:06] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: indeed :P but let's keep it here now so everyone can join in
[2008-03-05 20:04:24] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: I also have tea and cookies to eat and drink. no more talking
[2008-03-05 20:04:34] <kibble> Ktsquare: HOTR = Gerald maybe
[2008-03-05 20:04:36] <kibble> Ayelie: heh
[2008-03-05 20:04:37] <Ayelie> Gerald isn't here no
[2008-03-05 20:04:41] <Mitchell> kibble: yes
[2008-03-05 20:04:42] <Arctic_Gnome> You brought tea and cookies to the meeting?
[2008-03-05 20:04:49] <Ayelie> Arctic_Gnome I always do :D
[2008-03-05 20:04:54] <kibble> Gerald, maybe you'd know who that was*
[2008-03-05 20:04:55] * Ayelie offers oatmeal cookies to everyone
[2008-03-05 20:05:08] <Mitchell> Alan: yes?
[2008-03-05 20:05:22] <Mitchell> Alan: The meeting in general.
[2008-03-05 20:05:24] * kibble thinks it's everything, Alan_Ca
[2008-03-05 20:05:33] <Ayelie> yes let's continue here :)
[2008-03-05 20:05:44] <Ayelie> wknight isn't I don't think
[2008-03-05 20:05:47] <Mitchell> Only two people have mics right now.
[2008-03-05 20:05:57] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: I have a horrid time keeping track of voice conversations
[2008-03-05 20:05:58] * kibble pokes Arctic_Gnome to use his fingers not his mouth
[2008-03-05 20:06:00] <kibble> :-P
[2008-03-05 20:06:04] <Ayelie> easier when you can refer back to text
[2008-03-05 20:06:05] <Arctic_Gnome> :P
[2008-03-05 20:06:10] <Mitchell> Is anyone NOT listening to Teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 20:06:20] <Ktsquare> I heard the discussion but I couldn't speak
[2008-03-05 20:06:23] <Mitchell> Alan: Exactly
[2008-03-05 20:06:27] <kibble> Mitchell: well, he cna't speak either
[2008-03-05 20:06:33] <kibble> er, Alan_Ca* ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:06:40] <Alan_Ca> Bylaws: Nothing to discuss as HOTR is not here
[2008-03-05 20:06:47] <Alan_Ca> Move that item to next week please mitchell
[2008-03-05 20:06:53] <kibble> Arctic_Gnome: a person
[2008-03-05 20:06:55] <Mitchell> Alan: yes
[2008-03-05 20:06:55] <kibble> yep, alan
[2008-03-05 20:07:45] <kibble> Alan_Ca: isn't it simple?
[2008-03-05 20:07:45] * Ayelie notes she can barely hear, cookies too loud *crunch crunch*
[2008-03-05 20:07:45] <kibble> "steer the chapter"? :-P
[2008-03-05 20:07:46] <Ktsquare> Why should we wait for HOTR regarding Bylaws?
[2008-03-05 20:07:59] <kibble> Ktsquare: he was assigned to it
[2008-03-05 20:08:18] <Mitchell> Alan: I was updating the SteerCom page and I was wondering what the role was.
[2008-03-05 20:08:21] <Mitchell> So I added it
[2008-03-05 20:08:58] <kibble> consortium O_O
[2008-03-05 20:09:02] <Mitchell> yes
[2008-03-05 20:09:03] <Ayelie> sounds right
[2008-03-05 20:09:07] <kibble> lol
[2008-03-05 20:09:11] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: geek :P
[2008-03-05 20:09:16] <Az1568> heh
[2008-03-05 20:09:24] <kibble> Arctic_Gnome: yeah, we've drafted bylaws :-D
[2008-03-05 20:10:06] <kibble> yes, Alan_Ca 
[2008-03-05 20:10:21] <Mitchell> Alan: I think it is 3
[2008-03-05 20:10:42] <Mitchell> 3 over-18s
[2008-03-05 20:11:24] <kibble> Alan_Ca: well, our largest funds of money would be membership fees
[2008-03-05 20:11:26] <kibble> most likely
[2008-03-05 20:11:31] <Mitchell> Yea
[2008-03-05 20:11:31] <kibble> it will also be a steady flow
[2008-03-05 20:11:50] * kibble nods
[2008-03-05 20:12:08] <kibble> well, we can do things like what Ayelie said, seeling shirts!
[2008-03-05 20:12:13] <kibble> like WMIT sold buttons too
[2008-03-05 20:12:14] <Ktsquare> Sorely relying one membership fee to operate doesn't sound good.
[2008-03-05 20:12:17] <Ayelie> kibble selling or stealing? :P
[2008-03-05 20:12:27] <Ktsquare> lol
[2008-03-05 20:12:31] <kibble> Ayelie: lol
[2008-03-05 20:12:34] <kibble> selling
[2008-03-05 20:12:42] <Ayelie> I have ideas for kick-ass buttons ;)
[2008-03-05 20:12:45] <kibble> lol
[2008-03-05 20:12:51] <Ktsquare> Membership fee is more of operational fee?
[2008-03-05 20:13:22] <Ktsquare> good question, arctic gnome
[2008-03-05 20:13:52] <kibble> many, Arctic_Gnome 
[2008-03-05 20:14:00] <kibble> now if we have some in Canada...
[2008-03-05 20:14:08] <Ktsquare> Alan, so creditibilty is an issue
[2008-03-05 20:14:25] <Ayelie> Alan_Ca: they interfered with my cookies. >.>
[2008-03-05 20:14:32] <kibble> ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:15:33] <Ayelie> Hi Jeff :D
[2008-03-05 20:15:38] <Mitchell> Hi Jeff!
[2008-03-05 20:15:41] <Ktsquare> Hi Jeff
[2008-03-05 20:15:52] <kibble> oh, Ayelie and Alan_Ca  -> fundraising -> http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/Gadget_%28en%29
[2008-03-05 20:15:55] <Mitchell> I thinkJeff's on the Mailing list
[2008-03-05 20:15:56] <Ayelie> I'm in Ottawa atm
[2008-03-05 20:15:57] <Ktsquare> awesome
[2008-03-05 20:16:02] <kibble> (WMIT... buttons are near the bottom ;-) )
[2008-03-05 20:16:13] <Arctic_Gnome> Hi all!
[2008-03-05 20:16:37] <Ktsquare> We shall have a round of self introduction.
[2008-03-05 20:16:53] <Ktsquare> at the beginning of the meeting
[2008-03-05 20:17:18] <Mitchell> Wednesday
[2008-03-05 20:17:32] <Ayelie> every two weeks is okay, gives more time to get stuff done
[2008-03-05 20:17:34] <Mitchell> Alan: I can go witherway.
[2008-03-05 20:17:35] <Ktsquare> I prefer not on Wednesday
[2008-03-05 20:17:37] <Ayelie> unless we have a lot to talk about
[2008-03-05 20:17:39] <Mitchell> *either way
[2008-03-05 20:17:44] <Ayelie> Ktsquare: what day is best for you?
[2008-03-05 20:17:47] <Ktsquare> every 2 weeks is ok
[2008-03-05 20:17:59] <Arctic_Gnome> 2 weeks should be about right
[2008-03-05 20:18:00] <Mitchell> Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays work okay for me
[2008-03-05 20:18:17] <Ktsquare> Mondays, Tuiesdays, and Thursdays work okay for me
[2008-03-05 20:18:19] <kibble> lol @ random sounds
[2008-03-05 20:18:49] <kibble> rotational? that might be confusing though
[2008-03-05 20:18:50] <Ktsquare> thanx ayelie
[2008-03-05 20:19:02] <Ktsquare> o...
[2008-03-05 20:19:06] <Ayelie> :/
[2008-03-05 20:19:15] <Ktsquare> :(
[2008-03-05 20:19:32] <Ktsquare> guest1 is me
[2008-03-05 20:19:33] * kibble doesn't think (s)he has a mic
[2008-03-05 20:19:38] <Ktsquare> real name?
[2008-03-05 20:19:41] <Mitchell> yes
[2008-03-05 20:19:42] <Ktsquare> Kevin
[2008-03-05 20:19:54] <Arctic_Gnome> Mondays are very bad for me, the rest I can manage though I would prefer not Wednesdays.
[2008-03-05 20:19:58] * kibble wonders if Alan_Ca has been drinking :-P
[2008-03-05 20:20:03] <Ktsquare> that's ok
[2008-03-05 20:20:07] <Mitchell> kibble :D
[2008-03-05 20:20:08] <Az1568> kibble: lol
[2008-03-05 20:20:10] <kibble> (jk Alan!)
[2008-03-05 20:20:36] <Ktsquare> schedule event
[2008-03-05 20:20:46] <Ktsquare> yes
[2008-03-05 20:21:01] <kibble> Ayelie: Stephanie?
[2008-03-05 20:21:05] * kibble doesn't remember though
[2008-03-05 20:21:06] <Mitchell> Ktsquare was nomed for SteerCom, IIRC
[2008-03-05 20:21:11] <Ayelie> kibble Stephane! guy! :P
[2008-03-05 20:21:15] <kibble> hehe
[2008-03-05 20:21:24] <kibble> Ayelie: :-P I wasn't sure how he spelled it
[2008-03-05 20:21:31] * kibble remembered he was male though
[2008-03-05 20:21:37] * kibble would rather we keep it to weekdays
[2008-03-05 20:21:44] <Ktsquare> I am contributing to a religious group
[2008-03-05 20:21:45] <Mitchell> kibble: yep
[2008-03-05 20:21:52] <Ktsquare> on wednesdays
[2008-03-05 20:22:06] <kibble> yep, alan
[2008-03-05 20:22:07] <Ayelie> kibble: stéphane
[2008-03-05 20:22:11] <Ktsquare> Ktsquare is Kevin, yes
[2008-03-05 20:22:12] <kibble> Ayelie: there we go!
[2008-03-05 20:22:15] <Arctic_Gnome> Well, first, he people who have been elected have to be here, so what days are truly impossible for them?
[2008-03-05 20:22:16] <Ayelie> pronounced stay-fan
[2008-03-05 20:22:31] <kibble> Ayelie: :-)
[2008-03-05 20:22:36] <Ktsquare> LOL
[2008-03-05 20:22:39] * kibble hugglges Ayelie
[2008-03-05 20:22:49] <Mitchell> Turedays, Fridays, and Saturdays don't work for me
[2008-03-05 20:22:53] * Ayelie hugs kibble
[2008-03-05 20:22:56] <kibble> :-D
[2008-03-05 20:23:01] <Mitchell> *Tuesdays
[2008-03-05 20:23:07] <Ktsquare> Mondays then?
[2008-03-05 20:23:19] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:23:21] <Mitchell> I cannot make Tuesdays
[2008-03-05 20:23:25] <kibble> monday = tire
[2008-03-05 20:23:27] <kibble> d
[2008-03-05 20:23:29] <Ktsquare> o
[2008-03-05 20:23:38] <Mitchell> Yep
[2008-03-05 20:23:49] <Mitchell> Can anybody not make Thurs?
[2008-03-05 20:23:51] <Ktsquare> Thurdays, ok
[2008-03-05 20:23:58] <Ayelie> Thursday is good for me
[2008-03-05 20:24:02] * kibble too
[2008-03-05 20:24:05] <Mitchell> We should CHeck with Gerald and Andrew
[2008-03-05 20:24:12] <kibble> and ohana = andrew
[2008-03-05 20:24:14] <Mitchell> And Andrew W
[2008-03-05 20:24:19] <kibble> (the leung one)
[2008-03-05 20:24:22] <Az1568> yep Thurdays are good :)
[2008-03-05 20:24:31] <kibble> Ayelie: heh
[2008-03-05 20:24:31] <wknight8111> i can make a thursday meeting. next thursday?
[2008-03-05 20:24:41] <kibble> wknight8111: we're thinking about moving meeting date
[2008-03-05 20:24:44] <kibble> wed -> thursday
[2008-03-05 20:24:48] <kibble> coudl make it on thurs?
[2008-03-05 20:24:50] <Ayelie> Arctic_Gnome: that sounded like "ntresting: :P
[2008-03-05 20:24:54] <wknight8111> got it. so that change happens next week?
[2008-03-05 20:25:08] <Mitchell> Gerald
[2008-03-05 20:25:09] <Alan_Ca> Just a moment
[2008-03-05 20:25:12] <Mitchell> And Andrew W
[2008-03-05 20:25:15] <Mitchell> aka Ohana
[2008-03-05 20:25:16] <Alan_Ca> We're only missing Andrew?
[2008-03-05 20:25:16] <kibble> OhanaUnited
[2008-03-05 20:25:18] <Ayelie> Ohana_United
[2008-03-05 20:25:18] <Arctic_Gnome> Just assume an apostrophe before everything I say.  I'm hip like that.
[2008-03-05 20:25:21] <Alan_Ca> ohh shoot
[2008-03-05 20:25:21] <Ayelie> yes those two
[2008-03-05 20:25:26] <kibble> Mitchell: OhanaUnited = Andrew Leung, right?
[2008-03-05 20:25:32] <Mitchell> yes
[2008-03-05 20:25:33] <Mitchell> oops
[2008-03-05 20:25:37] <kibble> :-P
[2008-03-05 20:25:38] <Mitchell> I accidentaly typed W
[2008-03-05 20:25:43] <kibble> :-)
[2008-03-05 20:25:50] <Mitchell> Andrew W is whiteknight
[2008-03-05 20:25:59] <kibble> yep
[2008-03-05 20:26:01] <Ktsquare> Well, we have 2 weeks to decide
[2008-03-05 20:26:07] <Mitchell> Sorry whiteknight
[2008-03-05 20:26:17] <Alan_Ca> Ok, we will make the next meeting for March 20th, Thursday
[2008-03-05 20:26:20] <Ayelie> we can try Thursdays, just email Ohana and see if he's okay with it
[2008-03-05 20:26:20] <Ktsquare> Post this suggestion on mailing list
[2008-03-05 20:26:24] <Mitchell> So, next week, is it thurs?
[2008-03-05 20:26:26] * Ayelie marks it down on her calendar
[2008-03-05 20:26:28] <Alan_Ca> No
[2008-03-05 20:26:28] <Ayelie> oh dear hiccups
[2008-03-05 20:26:31] * Ayelie turns off microphone
[2008-03-05 20:26:32] <Ktsquare> Thurdasy
[2008-03-05 20:26:34] <Alan_Ca> March 20th is two weeks from today
[2008-03-05 20:26:34] <kibble> Mitchell: 20th
[2008-03-05 20:26:37] <kibble> Ayelie: heh
[2008-03-05 20:26:41] <Alan_Ca> 15 days
[2008-03-05 20:26:48] <Ktsquare> ok
[2008-03-05 20:27:14] <Mitchell> Next week, is it Teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 20:27:22] <kibble> Mitchell: 2 weeks :-P
[2008-03-05 20:27:30] <Mitchell> That's what I meant ;)
[2008-03-05 20:27:52] <Ktsquare> Mitch, were you mentioning that I was nominated?
[2008-03-05 20:28:18] <Mitchell> I did a while ago, pointing out that you were here in one of the 1st meetings.
[2008-03-05 20:28:26] <Ktsquare> yes
[2008-03-05 20:28:57] <kibble> uh oh
[2008-03-05 20:29:02] <kibble> you're gonna unlease evil Ayelie 
[2008-03-05 20:29:06] <kibble> leash..
[2008-03-05 20:29:08] <Mitchell> Some thing WikiMMMMMedia is a typo
[2008-03-05 20:29:11] <Ayelie> >8{
[2008-03-05 20:29:12] <Ktsquare> but my name is not among the SteerComm
[2008-03-05 20:29:12] <Mitchell> lol
[2008-03-05 20:29:17] <kibble> Mitchell: I know :-(
[2008-03-05 20:29:19] <Ktsquare> MMMM
[2008-03-05 20:29:26] <Ayelie> mmmmmmmmm cookies.
[2008-03-05 20:29:30] <Az1568> lol
[2008-03-05 20:29:30] <Arctic_Gnome> M, eh?
[2008-03-05 20:29:53] <Ktsquare> lol
[2008-03-05 20:30:03] <Mitchell> SteerCom is pretty informal, hopefully.
[2008-03-05 20:30:40] <Ktsquare> LOL
[2008-03-05 20:30:57] <Ayelie> good for links!
[2008-03-05 20:31:08] <kibble> Ayelie: and tea
[2008-03-05 20:31:14] <Ayelie> kibble: that too.
[2008-03-05 20:31:20] <Mitchell> Yes, I think
[2008-03-05 20:31:29] <kibble> yep, Alan
[2008-03-05 20:31:31] <Ktsquare> By the way, I can't speak on Teamspeak at this moment, even though I hear the discussion
[2008-03-05 20:31:38] <Arctic_Gnome> no worries
[2008-03-05 20:31:40] * kibble wonders if anyone *Doesn't* know what Wikimania is
[2008-03-05 20:31:42] <Ktsquare> ok
[2008-03-05 20:31:46] <Ayelie> Wikimania as in Toronto's bid? or in Alexandria?
[2008-03-05 20:31:48] <Mitchell> kibble: We're good
[2008-03-05 20:31:51] <kibble> Wikimedia ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:31:59] <kibble> and no, not quite :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimania
[2008-03-05 20:32:02] <Mitchell> [[Wikimania]]
[2008-03-05 20:32:05] <Wikilinker> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania
[2008-03-05 20:32:06] <kibble> (in re: to a bunch of people going to bar)
[2008-03-05 20:32:08] <kibble> yep, Ayelie 
[2008-03-05 20:32:14] <Arctic_Gnome> wikiWania
[2008-03-05 20:32:15] <kibble> so, Toronto has had many bids before
[2008-03-05 20:32:19] <Ktsquare> Which city won the right to hold wikimania 2009?
[2008-03-05 20:32:28] <Mitchell> None... yet
[2008-03-05 20:32:29] <kibble> and this one is in the final round again
[2008-03-05 20:32:39] <Mitchell> Yay Canada!
[2008-03-05 20:32:50] <kibble> is anyone interested in doing anything for it if it gets selected?
[2008-03-05 20:32:53] <kibble> like as a chapter?
[2008-03-05 20:33:04] <kibble> "when is it?" --> wikimania 2008 or 2009?
[2008-03-05 20:33:08] <Ktsquare> when will be the date of decision
[2008-03-05 20:33:08] <kibble> 2008 is July 17-19
[2008-03-05 20:33:12] <kibble> in Alexandrai
[2008-03-05 20:33:20] <kibble> 2009 -> host city / date won't be announced yet
[2008-03-05 20:33:27] <kibble> if we get toronto, Ayelie ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:33:29] <kibble> yep
[2008-03-05 20:33:31] <Ayelie> :)
[2008-03-05 20:33:50] <kibble> Arctic_Gnome: well... Brisabane (Australia) hasn't got a turn yet
[2008-03-05 20:34:05] <Mitchell> Alan: It's over
[2008-03-05 20:34:07] <Mitchell> I thinl
[2008-03-05 20:34:09] <kibble> it's already been submitted, Zanimum and HOTR were some people working on it
[2008-03-05 20:34:10] <Mitchell> *think
[2008-03-05 20:34:11] <kibble> Alan_Ca: yep, a new one
[2008-03-05 20:34:15] <kibble> and so was Andrew L
[2008-03-05 20:34:24] <Ktsquare> yes, alan
[2008-03-05 20:34:29] * kibble was just wondering if we wanted to do anything about it as a chapter in the future
[2008-03-05 20:34:40] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:34:43] <kibble> not announced yet for 2010
[2008-03-05 20:34:45] <Mitchell> A while Alan
[2008-03-05 20:35:19] <kibble> yep
[2008-03-05 20:35:36] <kibble> lol
[2008-03-05 20:35:48] * kibble is glad wknight8111 isn't on here
[2008-03-05 20:35:53] <Ayelie> :P
[2008-03-05 20:36:13] -->| OhanaUnited (i=OhanaUni@i209-195-104-131.cia.com) has joined #wikimedia-ca
[2008-03-05 20:36:14] <kibble> Arctic_Gnome: Zanimum has been working on it for like ever :-(
[2008-03-05 20:36:18] * kibble huggles ohna
[2008-03-05 20:36:19] <Mitchell> Andrew!!!!
[2008-03-05 20:36:20] <kibble> OhanaUnited*
[2008-03-05 20:36:22] =-= Mode #wikimedia-ca +v OhanaUnited  by ChanServ
[2008-03-05 20:36:28] <Ayelie> OhanaUnited, finally! :P
[2008-03-05 20:36:38] <OhanaUnited> sry, got home late, and my mom made me not to open my laptop on dinner table
[2008-03-05 20:36:44] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:36:51] <Mitchell> Ohana: Would it be a problem to have meetings on Thursdays for you?
[2008-03-05 20:36:53] <kibble> Az1568 post your link
[2008-03-05 20:36:58] <Ktsquare> yes, arcticgnome
[2008-03-05 20:37:00] <OhanaUnited> around what time?
[2008-03-05 20:37:04] <Ktsquare> agree
[2008-03-05 20:37:09] <Az1568> kibble: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids#Unofficial_bids
[2008-03-05 20:37:12] <kibble> :-P
[2008-03-05 20:37:14] <Mitchell> Ohana: Same time, in 2 weeks
[2008-03-05 20:37:16] <Az1568> heh :P
[2008-03-05 20:37:19] <OhanaUnited> oh yeah, toronto's bid is going to fail
[2008-03-05 20:37:20] <Mitchell> 15 days
[2008-03-05 20:37:46] <kibble> they're close
[2008-03-05 20:37:53] <Mitchell> They just formed, I think
[2008-03-05 20:37:53] <kibble> australia is approved by chapcom
[2008-03-05 20:37:55] <OhanaUnited> looking at Buenos Aires's bid, it's better than toronto's
[2008-03-05 20:37:58] <kibble> and they'll form in victoria soon
[2008-03-05 20:37:59] <Mitchell> They just got WMF approval
[2008-03-05 20:38:07] <Mitchell> IIRC
[2008-03-05 20:38:10] <OhanaUnited> btw, WMHK just got chapters committee approved as well
[2008-03-05 20:38:11] <kibble> Mitchell: but they're not officially formed yet :-)
[2008-03-05 20:38:14] <Mitchell> Yea
[2008-03-05 20:38:15] <kibble> OhanaUnited: yep
[2008-03-05 20:38:24] <kibble> as did Czech rebpublic and Austria, a bit back
[2008-03-05 20:38:35] <Ktsquare> yes
[2008-03-05 20:38:59] <Ktsquare> WMHK just got chapters committee approved as well. <===yes
[2008-03-05 20:39:09] <kibble> [[Wikimedia Hong Kong]] ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:39:10] <Wikilinker> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hong_Kong
[2008-03-05 20:39:24] <OhanaUnited> wikilinker? O_o
[2008-03-05 20:39:25] <OhanaUnited> who's that?
[2008-03-05 20:39:30] <Mitchell> A bot
[2008-03-05 20:39:31] <kibble> OhanaUnited: a bot
[2008-03-05 20:39:32] <Ktsquare> The Board of Trustees of the Foundation officially recognized Wikimedia Hong Kong as a Wikimedia Chapter on 5 March 2008. The Chapter will launch celebration activities, to share the joy with the community members.
[2008-03-05 20:39:33] <Arctic_Gnome> So, who want to steal a canoe with me and head to Alexandria this summer?
[2008-03-05 20:39:36] <Mitchell> It does links
[2008-03-05 20:39:42] <Mitchell> And is jun to play with
[2008-03-05 20:39:45] <Mitchell> *fun
[2008-03-05 20:39:47] <Ktsquare> lol arctic
[2008-03-05 20:39:53] <Mitchell> !q Right, Wikilinker?
[2008-03-05 20:39:54] <Wikilinker> Mitchell: Yes
[2008-03-05 20:39:56] <Mitchell> Yep
[2008-03-05 20:39:58] <Alan_Ca> Can someone bring Ohana up to speed on teamspeak?
[2008-03-05 20:40:09] <Mitchell> We are on Teamspeak voice stuff
[2008-03-05 20:40:20] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:40:23] <Mitchell> Alan: lol
[2008-03-05 20:40:24] <kibble> "voice stuff"
[2008-03-05 20:40:33] <Ktsquare> haha
[2008-03-05 20:40:34] <Ayelie> OhanaUnited: do you have a headset?
[2008-03-05 20:40:40] <Ayelie> or a microphone and speakers
[2008-03-05 20:40:45] * kibble is using ipod headphones :-D
[2008-03-05 20:40:48] <Mitchell> lol
[2008-03-05 20:40:57] <kibble> heh
[2008-03-05 20:41:09] <Ayelie> kibble: I was up until last week too :P luckily got a headset just in time for this o_o;
[2008-03-05 20:41:10] <OhanaUnited> i hav to install
[2008-03-05 20:41:15] <kibble> Ayelie: ;-)
[2008-03-05 20:41:18] <OhanaUnited> and last time it took me 2 days to get things right
[2008-03-05 20:41:19] <Mitchell> Is it safe to say that the meeting is over?
[2008-03-05 20:41:22] * kibble likes iPod headphones, easy to take out
[2008-03-05 20:41:23] <kibble> and put in
[2008-03-05 20:41:31] <kibble> Alan_Ca: nope
[2008-03-05 20:41:34] <kibble> lol
[2008-03-05 20:41:36] <Ktsquare> Is it safe to say that the meeting is over?
[2008-03-05 20:41:42] * kibble goes maniac
[2008-03-05 20:41:43] <Ktsquare> ok
[2008-03-05 20:41:50] * kibble can hear Alan_Ca stretching
[2008-03-05 20:41:55] <Mitchell> I might try and get my mic working
[2008-03-05 20:41:56] <kibble> and giggling...
[2008-03-05 20:42:20] <kibble> haha
[2008-03-05 20:42:23] <OhanaUnited> i can't hang around for long guys
[2008-03-05 20:42:30] <Arctic_Gnome> So have we decided anything?  What will be talking about next time?
[2008-03-05 20:42:31] <kibble> OhanaUnited: we're done :-)
[2008-03-05 20:42:33] <Ayelie> OhanaUnited: we're mostly done
[2008-03-05 20:42:35] <OhanaUnited> got another midterm coming saturday, then another one on next friday
[2008-03-05 20:42:39] <kibble> Arctic_Gnome: Mitchell will set up a page
[2008-03-05 20:42:44] <kibble> and then you can put agenda items
[2008-03-05 20:42:47] <kibble> night all
[2008-03-05 20:42:52] * kibble isn't quitting yet though
[2008-03-05 20:42:52] <Ktsquare> Good night
[2008-03-05 20:42:54] <Arctic_Gnome> g'night
[2008-03-05 20:42:55] <Az1568> night :)
[2008-03-05 20:42:56] <Mitchell> So meeting on the 20th
[2008-03-05 20:43:05] <Alan_Ca> 20:00 EST
[2008-03-05 20:43:09] <Mitchell> right
[2008-03-05 20:43:13] <Ayelie> good niiiight
[2008-03-05 20:43:33] <OhanaUnited> nite
[2008-03-05 20:44:02] * kibble wonders if Ayelie is leaving
[2008-03-05 20:44:09] <kibble> if not, we have to chat :-)
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