User talk:Xermano
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[edit]Hello, Xermano. Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!
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Are Akifumii and Xermano the same person? - Fabsouza1 (talk) 13:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes. I have moved accounts. Xermano is my new main account. What can I help you with? XermanoTalk 16:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- FYI I have removed autopatrolled from your other account and considered removing it from this one as well (since it was granted because you had it on your previous account). I guess this means there's a huge mess of incorrect Galician, French, and Catalan translations--were they just Google Translated? Maybe they could all be changed to "proofreading" or even just deleted if they are low-quality machine translations. Of course autopatrolled doesn't matter much, but I would prefer not to have incorrect translations be automatically patrolled. The one positive thing that came from all of this is that we might be more careful about trusting "translators" in the future (and even granting translation adminship to them). PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for eventually admitting it at least. And I hope you continue to provide translations in Hungarian, Romanian, etc. (assuming you actually speak them). PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've removed the right; the bad translations plus the blocks on other wikis are enough to tip the balance IMO. --Rschen7754 04:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for eventually admitting it at least. And I hope you continue to provide translations in Hungarian, Romanian, etc. (assuming you actually speak them). PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- FYI I have removed autopatrolled from your other account and considered removing it from this one as well (since it was granted because you had it on your previous account). I guess this means there's a huge mess of incorrect Galician, French, and Catalan translations--were they just Google Translated? Maybe they could all be changed to "proofreading" or even just deleted if they are low-quality machine translations. Of course autopatrolled doesn't matter much, but I would prefer not to have incorrect translations be automatically patrolled. The one positive thing that came from all of this is that we might be more careful about trusting "translators" in the future (and even granting translation adminship to them). PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Please consider not translating Wikimedia Highlights in protest
[edit]Hi Xermano, I have just noticed that you've been working on the translation of Wikimedia Highlights today.
I wanted to ask you to consider refraining from translating such pages to avoid supporting the recent actions of the Wikimedia Foundation. On Sunday, they have implemented a change that gives them an unprecedented, unilateral and unlimited power to protect certain pages on Wikimedia wikis in a manner that makes it impossible for all volunteers — including locally elected administrators — to edit them.
The change was secretly forced through without any community consultation, and the Foundation have used this new feature to actively fight the volunteer community of the German Wikipedia.
Your volunteer translations directly sustain such actions of the Foundation. Your work helps them save time and effort that they would otherwise have to invest in recruiting, training and managing new employees, and saves them money they would otherwise have to spend on professional translations.
The recent actions of the Wikimedia Foundation make it very clear that they no longer respect the wishes of the volunteer community, and that they no longer consider us an equal partner. The least we can do to voice our dismay at those actions, and to support our colleagues on the German Wikipedia, is to stop investing our precious time as volunteers on directly helping the Wikimedia Foundation. We can instead translate pages which help all wiki users.
Please take a minute to consider withdrawing your help for the Foundation in protest against their disrespectful treatment of the volunteer community of the German Wikipedia.
Thank you for your time and your consideration! odder (talk) 21:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Odder. Does this mean I should not translate through Special:LanguageStats on all WMF wikis? XermanoTalk 22:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Xermano: No, of course it is your decision whether you want to continue translating pages. But I think that the best method to show our dissatisfaction with the actions of the Foundation is to stop supporting them. As volunteers, we can focus on translating pages that directly help other volunteers rather than the Foundation — for example help pages on MediaWiki.org. Wikimedia Highlights is a Foundation initiative, and our work is used by them to fulfill their goals. After their recent actions, I think it is best if we, as volunteers, focused on doing something else than supporting their initiatives. Thanks, odder (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Odder, there was legitimate reason to do this, as the Foundation has a right to ensure that its Wikipedia projects do not unilaterally splinter off and do their own thing. This includes ensuring that their work is not rolled back, as that is counter to any work that they might be trying to do on the site. There is also no reason that Xermano or any other user cannot continue supporting the WMF in their work, as the only way to completely remove yourself from supporting anything the WMF does is to leave the project for good. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:01, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Xermano: No, of course it is your decision whether you want to continue translating pages. But I think that the best method to show our dissatisfaction with the actions of the Foundation is to stop supporting them. As volunteers, we can focus on translating pages that directly help other volunteers rather than the Foundation — for example help pages on MediaWiki.org. Wikimedia Highlights is a Foundation initiative, and our work is used by them to fulfill their goals. After their recent actions, I think it is best if we, as volunteers, focused on doing something else than supporting their initiatives. Thanks, odder (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)