User talk:Sven70

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Hello Sven70, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! --Dferg 16:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

RSI

Latest comment: 14 years ago25 comments7 people in discussion

I was not aware of what your enwp talk page header said. Therefore I have unblocked you. Sorry, --Dferg 16:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

K-canwe talkpl?Sven70 16:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

You mean me or Dferg? --WizardOfOz ^talk 16:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

a.kSven70 17:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sorry but i can follow a.k? If you mean me, I´m sorry but i don´t use skype and in few minutes i´m on the way. But if you need a help in any way, just leave a ping on my talkpage and i will try to contact you tomorrow, or contact any admin here, i´m sure that everyone will help you if he can. If you mean Dferg, i´m sure he will contact you next time when he is online. If you have better possibility to write german, you can also contact me in german. --WizardOfOz ^talk 17:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

both ok-icantypBUTwordsthoSven70 17:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Allow me to excuse me again for the missunderstanding. I feel really bad.[ugotit,np/dadgud-didXavex ge2u?imagin udidnt-indef gblok,praps evno email-i/genral owcan users vindicat'emselfs?menow1.5yrs struglin mainly w/wt,tryin2functn:(] I do not have skype & probably I'll be getting tense speaking a language other than my native one[imFlemish]; I'm sorry. According to your edit at WM:RFH I understand that you're being pressed[y-hounded!+4avin difrntview o/dict] for the RSI at en.wiktionary. That's really bad & I'm sorry. I do not contribute at en.wiktionary so I'd not be able to help you so much on that area. I think that you should try to post at Wikimedia Forum so that other volunteers could advice you. I see that you are blocked on en.wiktionary. Do you mean that you want an unblock?[dad1=no xplan(gues4layout),admin=nono chines/wp:minnan+refuses i/gen2provid rv-reasn evn wen askd,nocomunicats,1.time indef(+NOT4shorthnd-ididntno evn watchlist/com-pages then-v.1.edits-nohelpBUTrudenes+intimidatng newbiz[Stop lredy..or]),nonotificatn[u/1findout onliwentryin2edit,nosay4howlong(unles indef-ithink meta'dsayso2-transparency!),refusl(otherppl askd2)2av acesablblok-apeal procedur(unles ur tech-savy,irc nso),say wt=WMF>1=labld'disruptiv] Do you want us to contact the blocking admin so that he can review the case?.[y&n--wt=MANYprobs,v.cabal,neds imo thoroREVIEW:edit/userHOSTIL<c fe user:sb blokin activity>,ABUSIV&ivorytowercultur,disregardWMFpolicy,deletionist,disrespectfl<NOTjust2me!,fe"users rstupid!">,in+outfitin,layout overcontnt;2me:"wedontdo disabldppl!"(myq:'canipl be acomodated as adisabldpesn)-bp ca sume2009):|] Please tell us. Best regards, --Dferg 18:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)+Sven70 05:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hello Sven. I have made a redirect to your english userpage as a information for other admins not to block you if they think you are adding garbage because of your shorthand writing. It is just as information for others to read first before they act. If you dont like it, and perhaps want to have the same userpage here on meta like on en wiki, just say and we can make it. As you have a unfied account[btw 'du'elpme usurp sven70 o/de.wp pl?(myshrthnd:(], there is posibillity for making userpages trough a bot. If you want to have the same page on other projects like the one on en.wiki, just say and i will ask the user who is working with the bot.[soundsgud+signtr/prefs!(changes rbeinmad-iletno!:)] As Dferg sayed above, if you want us to contact the admin who blocks you on the en.wiktionary, [ucantry,butgudluk-hypedefensivther..+=3bloks[user史凡：BANDafteIRC(menopart!)by userEP-wher ami vandl/disruptiv-4disagrein+rsi??:/]just let us know and we will contact him. Best regards --WizardOfOz ^talk 22:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)+Sven70 05:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

[]=mine+praps other admin>sk-msn me[ino deabuv=v.dens]?ta[xavexgoem did pointout wp:cool2me,imawar of v.strongreactns frome wenconsistently labld 'giberish'[wich ifind deplyofensiv] etc o/wt/p[itriedNOT2 her(tho irealywas v.upset yday,xtremlyso-notment2makufel evnwors,butmor as fb on efekt ofprematurbloks,prapsnotonly o/me) as/medcabBUT2insist=shrthnd-a voismsg butn'd'elp alot..Sven70 05:21, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'll ask for you if you want. --Bsadowski1 05:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

e-askwotpl?Sven70 06:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Deblock has been requested here. --WizardOfOz ^talk 09:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

You are deblocked on en.wiktionary. --WizardOfOz ^talk 09:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

PS: the blocking admin will take a look on your following contributions there, so please take care to use the same edit rules as they are used on other articles there. If you are not sure how to add something, take a look on other articles and use c/p for adding with changing the needed words. Best regards --WizardOfOz ^talk 09:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

ta---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear.

No problem, but please take care in your contributions to prevent another block. --WizardOfOz ^talk 15:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

   User:Sven70 is User:史凡 (User_talk:史凡), who has been permanently blocked for repeated intimidating behavior.
   His Wikipedia accounts:

       * W:User:Sven70
       * W:User:219.69.85.251
       * W:User:219.69.68.109
       * W:User:史凡

   --Dan Polansky 20:55, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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As i can see you have a sockpuppet on the wiktionary. Even myselfe will block you for that as that is a evasion of a block. That is what admins don´t like on any project. I will contact Dan, but you need to promise not to create another puppet. Everyone is willing to help and to understand you, but you also need to make a step ahead and try to understand other users which are for the first time confronted with an user with RSI. I know that is hard and i wouldn´t say that, but if you want more acceptance, you need to accept the rules. If someone attack you personaly, you must provide links to pages where it happens on wiktionary. The blocking admin have show good will while deblock you, and that is where you should go on and try to make the best of that. Please cool down and don´t heat over on every message you get. You are not the only who gets such messages, and that have nothing to do with your injury. every project have it own rules and those need to be followed, no matter by whom: you or me or even the Founder. Wuld you promise me not to create another accounts and to overreact when you get a critical message? --WizardOfOz ^talk 22:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

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I´ve leave him a message en:User talk:Xavexgoem, I hope he will answer here, but please have a little bit of patience. --WizardOfOz ^talk 00:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

patience=np,ur v.fastbtw:)

---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 00:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok. i think i can figure out where the worm is. The problem is that you are expecting more help in editing and technical issues.[vois'doit] But, we are volounteers. Everyone of us can spend a time with you as he have. Even admins on the projects are volounteers, and they also don´t have a possibility to change the technical base of the wikimedia software. That is what developers are for.[candeybeaskd pl?] I see you will to contribute, and also the borders maded by the software, but as you are expecting more tolerance, so you also have to give more of it. There is a rule for all projects which is caled assume good faith.[y-ima"jok"tho..] IMO you are sometimes overrecting [true~xavex fb]if you see a rough speech. I can´t see anyone calling you bad names just for your injury. But, in every answer of you, you are coming up with it. As i can see, all conversations are some pretty time ago. Now you are deblocked, and it will be nice if you put your weapons in the ground and try a new start. [agre]Accept critic and try to assume good faith in others when they are not understanding your shorthand. I don´t know which voice recognition software you use[istopd>pc2slow:(], and i have no expirience with it, but perhaps you an use it in an other language and than make translations to english trough translate.google.com so that there are whole words. I am not a native english speaker and also have much problems to read your sentences. Thats the problem on every project. [ino]There are not just en natives but also other users whit other mother language who can´t understand you and than it comes to such situations. I am sure that noone have problem with your injury, but with your way of writing and, sorry for that, your pretty offensive way to answer. As i sayed above, please try to cool down before you answer and don´t write in the first second. Read it, read twice and than answer slowly, don´t hurry and don´t overreact. When you are the one who think twice before you write, others will also do it. I know that is not easy in your case, but that is all i can tell you at the moment and t will be very nice if you forget the whole situation and start again with more respect and patience to others so they will give the same to you. The next problem are your nicks. It will be nice if you decide for one and if you use just one of them. [sven70then4uzpl]For normal there is no tolerating of two or more nicks. If you make a new start with new nick, then you shouldn´t use the other one. [k]Your style is not hard to recongise, so other admins can see it as evasion of block and will block you again. [ino]Therefore you are loosing your trustwothy and can bee seen as vandal. In such case you will be blocked even if your attention is good. So once more, forget the whole thing, cool down and try not to overreact in future. This will make such situations not happen again. The next step is to decide which of those two nicks you will use in future and let us block the other so you can be recognised just with one. Best regards --WizardOfOz ^talk 06:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

PS ia have answer to Dan here. --WizardOfOz ^talk 06:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)ta+[]=mine---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 10:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

[2]<cwotimean-1.tim indef"ban"(not~wmf policy)+user:created v.content/educatnaly-sound entrys---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 15:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I will stay in contact with him to solve this problem. --WizardOfOz ^talk 19:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Regarding access to Wiki projects for people of disabilities

I have been speaking with Sven70 on Skype, and have reviewed the "not for profit" section that the Wiki Foundation is under; it is possible that there is a duty of care toward people with disabilities. I intend to raise this issue with the Foundation via Jimbo Wales, and also Mike Godwin. While an individual admin may choose not to volunteer more than a certain amount of time assisting Sven70 to edit, I think it may not be permissible to block Sven70 because people are unwilling to deal with the consequences of his disability (that is, the communication difficulties). Also, labeling someone as a vandal because the reader cannot or will not understand what is being said is inappropriate. The fact that this mistake has been made in the past should not be carried forward. Anyhow, I appreciate the effort that editors and admins are making - and really, if you can please talk to Sven on Skype/Messenger; it is only his hands that are restricted. LessHeard vanU 19:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I haven´t even think about such problems until a saw this. Perhaps there is a solution for (i hate such words) people with disabilities. --WizardOfOz ^talk 19:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

[ http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Beer_parlour#nl4.5Bbabl.3Dimprope] blokd'gen:(---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 01:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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   Please, take up another hobby. Origami, for example. +futherac.slurs:[4](UTC)---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 23:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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Sorry but there is a part of community which is against your deblock and truly, I also can´t excuse your behavior in mails you have sent to others. As there is no posibillity to deblock you by an admin on the project, you have to live with the block there and try to concentrate on some other project (we have more than 700). There is also de.wiktionary where you can contribute. About the posting of your real name, it will be nice if you send me diffs per mail so i can provide it to a steward for oversight. --WizardOfOz ^talk 19:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

There is the theoretical possibility that I unblock Sven, as I consider the edits in the main space valuable and accurate, but thus I would jeopardise the trust of the community in me and I surely would be accused of misusing the admin tools. However, Atelaes has permitted allowing e-mailing, but not shortening the block without prior discussing it. If you want to send someone from en wikt a (civil) e-mail, let me know.. In discussing said shortnening, I seem to have failed. Sven, es tut mir tatsächlich leid, daß Du von der dir erteilten zweiten Chance vorzeitig beraubt wurdest. Du kannst mich immer hier auf meta oder per E-mail aufsuchen. Bogorm 20:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Blocked

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is unacceptable. You know that comments go on talk pages, and calling people dumwits is, frankly, rude. --Philippe 05:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC) witsHOUNDISABLD2wichuBELONGBYXTENSN.Reply

Please be civil

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Dear Sven, please be civil. Your commentary in this edit summary is offensive and very inappropriate. Thanks, Mathonius 09:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

I have blocked you for 31 hours due to this attack towards another user. This kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Mathonius 09:51, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply