Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/Uzbek Wikipedia

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Kamol Azzam	Filer (no diff required)
Nataev	Notifications to Nataev

U4C member alert: @U4C: User:0xDeadbeef User:Ajraddatz User:Barkeep49 User:Civvì User:Ghilt User:Ibrahim.ID User:Jrogers (WMF) User:Luke081515 User:Superpes15 Kamol Azzam (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

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Kamol Azzam

Description of the problem - (Kamol Azzam)

At the moment, Nataev, whose activities are being discussed at this discussion, is accused of violating the strict requirements of the WMF Universal Code of Conduct. He has admitted to the following charges against him:

1. Disclosed the identity of a user who filed an anonymous complaint

This is a major violation of clause 5 of part 3.1 of Section 3 of the UCoC. Nataev explained his mistake, saying, "It's true that I mistakenly wrote the name of the user who filed the complaint, and it's also true that I quickly edited their name afterward. Fortunately, I made the error in a closed Telegram group." As I responded "Although you've edited your message, you don't rule out the possibility that there might be others in the group who saw it, as well as the possibility that group administrators, who have access to the group's activity log for the last 48 hours, may have read it or that it was sent to the accused, Alpasli” he initially tried to confuse the situation by giving a confusing answer. (Alpasli was accused of sexual harassment by multiple female wikimedians ) However, after my clarifying questions, he tried to complicate the situation, relying on vague hopes that "it's correct and if someone read it, I hope they didn't expose the information." However, when Jamshid Nurkulov stated that he learned about this violation not from me or Nataev, but from a third party, he fully admitted to the accusation saying "Yes, I made a mistake, I admit it again."

2. Manipulated the outcome of the ongoing discussion in order to change it to align with his own interests

This is a serious violation of clause 3 of part 3.2 of Section 3 of the UCoC. But Nataev neither denied nor confirmed it. However, to further complicate the situation, he tried to turn the situation to a different direction.

3. Sharing individuals' personal information (in this case, chats) with third parties without the consent of the other party (doxing)

This is a serious violation of clause 5 of Part 3.1, Section 3 of the UCoC. Nataev admitted to this violation as well and only after I demanded did he delete my personal messages from the places where he shared them.

4. Insulting other users

This is a serious violation of clause 1, part 3.1, section 3 of this Code. In response to the claim I brought, Nataev openly admitted to violating this rule, stating: "I regret using the phrase 'mentally stable' and I apologize once again to you and Alpasli. I have also opened and read the conversation with Panpanchik. Unfortunately, after I wrote 'you cling like a tick to power', this phrase was somewhat misinterpreted, and instead of easing the situation, I ended up aggravating it." He also admitted to using insulting words against Jamshid Nurkulov.

5. Insulting people based on their ethnicity and regional origin

This viloates clauses 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of part 2.2 of section 2 of the Code and is a violation noted in clause 1 of part 3.1 of section 3. Nataev has been carrying out such unacceptable behavior for years, and he admitted to it himself.

Now I will list below the violations he committed both before and after admitting his violations. The aforementioned incidents do not conclude the matter. Despite knowing that he had committed the above serious violations and that they would lead to sanctions, Nataev continued to engage in similar behaviour. Specifically, in connection with his subsequent actions, he is:

1. Accused under Section 3, Part 3.1, Clause 5 of the WMF Universal Code of Conduct.

He continues to engage in unacceptable behavior 1, 2, such as " sharing other contributors' private information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address without their explicit consent either on the Wikimedia projects or elsewhere, or sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity outside the projects." as outlined in the Code;

2. Violating clause 1 of part 3.2 of section 3 of the Code.

He is actively accusing every user, who are acting against his interests, of meatpuppetry. The table compiled by Nataev and the pressure being exerted on each person who voted “support” serve as examples of this.

3. Continues to commit the violation specified in Section 3, part 3.2, clause 2 of the Code.

As mentioned above, Nataev, by holding bureaucrat, administrator, checkuser, interface administrator priviliges, is trying to keep others within his sphere of influence and adapt the discussion’s results to his own interests. I find it important to cite Nataev's following statement as evidence: "Mass puppetry, WP:Canvassing, and revenge-taking are occurring in this discussion. Therefore, after this discussion concludes, we will collectively review the cases of users who have committed serious violations." With these words, Nataev implied that as soon as this matter is resolved, he and/or those in collusion with him will attempt to legitimize their violations, and those who opposed him will face pressure.

4. Committing violations outlined in clauses 1, 2, 3, 4 of Part 3.3, Section 3 of the Code.

1. Jamshid Nurkulov explained the issue of editing the content without community consensus above in his comments, as mentioned in clause 1 of part 3.3 of the Code. According to Jamshid Nurkulov, Nataev changed the Spelling and Grammar rule to a form he wanted without discussing it with the community on the relevant Wikipedia page.

2. The issue of interpreting the ideas and facts, as outlined in clause 2 of part 3.3 of the Code, to suit his own perspective emerged during the discussion. Nataev's statements about voters being "must have edited within 15, 30, 60 days" are, firstly, not relevant to voting in this discussion, and some of these statements are not even used in Uzbek Wikipedia. It would be better to present actual cases. Based on the discussions that were opened prior to this one in which Nataev had a direct interest, specifically, the Nataev (checkuser 2) and Malikxan (checkuser 2) discussions, we can see how interpreted a rule to fit his benefit in two different situations:

–– That phrase in the rule you're clinging to also seems like an machine translation, because I understood it differently after reading it once. But the original was written clearly: сделавшие в ней не менее одной правки в период между 30 и 60 днями до момента выдвижения кандидата и не менее одной правки на протяжении 15 дней до момента выдвижения кандидата. It's worth noting that this rule was introduced by @Ximik1991, who left the project in 2016. If I'm not mistaken, without any discussion or consensus. The user translated from ruwiki simply because he knew Russian. – Nataev

Based on this response given by Nataev himself to a user named Anjaniy, the requirement for voters having edited between 15, 30, and 60 days is baseless and simply translated without any discussion or consensus.

But later, he uses the same rule he called baseless to discredit a user who voted against him.

–– According to the rules, voters must have made one edit between January 15, 2025 and February 14, 2025, no less than one within 30 and 60 days prior to voting (сделавшие в ней не менее одной правки в период между 30 и 60 днями до момента выдвижения кандидата, since this discussion was opened on March 16 – Nataev.

Insulting a particular person or group (including an ethnic group) under clause 3 and 4 of Section 3.3 of the Code, using an insulting description of them outside of an encyclopedic context.

Nataev has been insulting Uzbeks, particularly those from Uzbekistan, as well as every participant in the WikiStipendiya project and their collective community. Earlier, a text from a discussion with Jamshid Nurkulov regarding the issue of ethnic insults was cited. Furthermore, Nataev has used the derogatory term "sart" in reference to Uzbeks, and the phrase "WikiStipendiya sheep" to insult the participants of the WikiStipendiya project. The insulting connotation of the word "sart" and its incorrect association with Uzbeks were explained more than a century ago by Mahmudhoja Behbudi. Today, through research conducted by sociologists on this matter, this term is indeed considered offensive. To elaborate further, when used in reference to Uzbeks, the word "sart" is employed solely to insult a specific social stratum and ethnic group, as much similar as the form of racism targeted at the afroamerican community.

Previous attempts at a solution - (Kamol Azzam)

I have sent an email to U4C, thoroughly explaining this matter. And at the same time I opened a discussion in Uzbek wikipedia administrators’ noticeboard. But user Mirzoulugbek (who has obvious affiliation with Nataev) blocked me during the discussion without any prior warning or consensus. Their excuse is a screenshot from a Telegram group, where I shared a link to the discussion and neutrally commented “Observe the discussion”. As soon as Nataev knows that I’m writing here, he will share the screenshots with you too. Please, analyze them with careful translation.

However, I have clear evidence that they are the ones committing real meatpuppetry. This evidence was sent to U4C email.

Suggested solutions - (Kamol Azzam)

Only through involvement of global stewards and UCoC committee can this issue be resolved. I request that you take action based on any criteria of the UCoC found to be violated in this case. Kamol Azzam (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Nataev

Description of the problem - (Nataev)

Before proceeding, I want to acknowledge a personal bias: I hold a particularly negative view of some new Wikimedians who joined the movement through the en:WikiStipendiya edit-a-thon -- a program I helped design and launch in partnership with the Youth Affairs Agency of Uzbekistan. This bias arises from my direct involvement in the initiative and the troubling patterns I've observed over the past three years, particularly the widespread promotion of massive content creation in exchange for cash prizes and other incentives. While I will strive for neutrality, I recognize that parts of my report may either reflect my perspective too strongly or, conversely, downplay serious issues in an effort to overcorrect for this bias.

On 16 March 2025, Kamol Azzam opened a discussion on the uzwiki AN outlining what he believed were my wrongdoings and initiated a vote of no confidence. The voting period ended on 23 March 2025 per local policy, with the community rejecting the proposal to remove my rights. I'm incredibly grateful for this outcome. I believe my explanations for the alleged policy violations and my sincere apologies for actual past inappropriate remarks played a role in the community's decision. I unequivocally condemn my past rude remarks, have repeatedly apologized to all parties involved, and do so once again. I should've known better.

I believe there are three broad issues at play on uzwiki that have a bearing on this discussion:

1. Threats, hounding, harassment, and civility (UCoC 2.2 and 3.1)
2. Persistent privacy violations (UCoC 3.1)
3. Abuse of the projects by users affiliated with a project sponsored by a government agency (UCoC 3.3)

I will discuss each in more detail below.

Threats, hounding, harassment, and civility (UCoC 2.2 and 3.1)

Threats of and actual violence

In August 2023, Jamshid Nurkulov called another user (whose identity I don't want to disclose publicly) over the phone and explicitly told them to relay a message to me: that Jamshid Nurkulov would "tear my ass apart" ("koʻtini ayiraman") if and when I visited Uzbekistan next. He later repeated these threats in person in Tashkent to the same person. This time, they secretly recorded the conversation, recognizing that explicitly stating the intent to commit physical violence is an extremely serious matter. They have agreed to share the recording with the U4C if needed. Jamshid Nurkulov's anger stemmed from my vote in support of the late Salazarov's candidacy for adminship -- a decision Jamshid had opposed, explicitly stating that Salazarov was "mentally unstable" ("ruhan beqaror"). I haven't encountered Jamshid Nurkulov in person since.

I contacted the U4C on this on 17 March 2025. In the same email, I brought up how both Alpasli and Kamol Azzam alluded to engaging in a physical altercation at one of the WikiStipendiya wikicamps, with another user confirming witnessing the event.

Retaliation and hounding

This year, I've faced retaliation and hounding by several users, which culminated in the discussion on the local AN. I have reason to believe this is partly in retaliation for several actions I've taken, including:

• Conducing checkuser into Anjaniy (and Xoqoni Said) on 22 January 2025 after Kagansky opened an SPI case against them. The two had been using their socks accounts (Xhyripomius and Blood Wyrm respectively) to exclusively report machine translated content by other users to prevent them from competing for WikiStipendiya cash prizes. Importantly, both Anjaniy and Xoqoni Said were members of the same group of users as Panpanchik (see below) that competed for a cash prize.

• Starting a vote of no confidence on the local AN about Panpanchik on 20 February 2025 and and an SPI case the following day, documenting infractions such as engaging in improperly disclosed paid editing using a WP:ILLEGIT account, abusing advanced rights by granting privileges to her own secondary accounts without discussion, and undeleting an article created by her sock account (which had been deleted by another administrator). This resulted in the community supporting the removal of her rights.

Please note that I harbored no ill intentions toward her; in fact, before these discussions, I had written a recommendation letter on behalf of the Wikimedians of the Uzbek Language User Group (WOULUG) to support her participation in a Wikimedia conference. I can provide the letter over email if needed, which I shared in our private Telegram group to let everyone know I was supporting her participation in the conference.

• Blocking Laziz Baxtiyorov on 23 February 2025 after gathering broader community feedback over a period of three months on Meta. His name was frequently mentioned in the discussion against me, and Laziz Baxtiyorov has many personal and professional ties to the other users I involved in this case. I'm disappointed that the community does not fully grasp the severity of his violations and keeps bringing up his case. I'm glad I initiated the RfC on Meta before taking any action against him.

• Initiating a discussion about improperly disclosed paid editing with WP:ILLEGIT accounts involving Alpasli, Laziz Baxtiyorov, Muzaffar Murodovich, Panpanchik, and Sitora Oblakulova. Alpasli received payments from two different institutions, and the latter four (Laziz Baxtiyorov up until he was blocked) have been creating paid content on Islamic topics for the International Islamic Academy of Uzbekistan (uz:Oʻzbekiston xalqaro islom akademiyasi). Notably, I started this discussion on the local AN one day before Kamol Azzam initiated the vote of no confidence against me.

Some have taken issue with the fact that before starting this discussion, I copyedited the policy, which had been expanded from enwiki during March-February 2025 by another user. They are also raising concerns about the policy not being discussed by the local community. While this is true, it aligns with our usual practice of not formally debating policies that are directly adopted from enwiki or ruwiki. Regardless, I believe paid editing falls under global policy, and said so in the local discussion. I suggested blocking the secondary accounts they created specifically for paid content while leaving their main accounts for the community to decide upon. The discussion is still ongoing.

Coordinated MEAT, CANVASS, and COI

I also have strong reason to believe that large-scale WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and WP:COI violations occurred during the vote of no confidence against me, which I believe collectively constitutes harassment. Nearly all of the users whose votes were considered eligible according to local criteria 1) are personally acquainted, as I documented here with publicly available evidence and 2) have directly benefited from WikiStipendiya in one way or another, as I documented here, again with publicly available evidence.

A majority of the users who I suspect of engaging in coordinated MEAT, CANVASS, and COI have received millions of Uzbek soʻms in cash prizes as WikiStipendiya participants. Importantly, Kamol Azzam was part of the WikiStipendiya organizing team in 2022-2024. Moreover, two of them are currently employed by the International Islamic Academy of Uzbekistan, as disclosed on the user page of their secondary accounts/socks (uz:Foydalanuvchi:Oblakulova and uz:Foydalanuvchi:Xumoshox Ismoilova). To reiterate, I initiated the discussion about the problematic nature of creating paid content with WP:ILLEGIT accounts the day before the discussion against me began. I'd like to point out that Panpanchik and Sitora Oblakulova opposed the blocking of their accounts but voted in favor of desysopping me. Please also note that Mirzoulugʻbek blocked Muzaffar Murodovich (along with Kamol Azzam) on 22 March 2025 for one week for WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and WP:COI, citing additional evidence he received over email. At least one more admin has confirmed receiving evidence to that effect.

I hope that unlike Kamol Azzam's claims to the contrary, highlighting potential WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and WP:COI does not place undue pressure on users. Additionally, I trust that merely pointing out the potential consequences of engaging in undesired behavior is not the same as applying pressure.

Civility

Without attempting to justify my actions, I acknowledge that rudeness has become quite common in our community's conversations. I don't want to point fingers, but I must admit that Jamshid Nurkulov and I have been particularly poor in maintaining civility. There are numerous instances confirming this behavior, and I will provide them via email if requested by the U4C. Speaking for myself, I am deeply disappointed in my own actions for making mean-spirited comments. I have unequivocally condemned my words, apologized to all affected parties, and sincerely apologize again. Moving forward, I will be mindful of my language and ensure that nothing I say can even remotely be perceived as mean-spirited.

Again, without attempting to justify my words, I'd like to provide context for the instances Kamol Azzam listed above. Kanadek yopishmoq ("clinging like a tick") is indeed a common Uzbek expression (page 107), but I regret using it and doubling down with further comments. I've already apologized to Panpanchik and do so again. I've also apologized to Kamol Azzam and Alpasli for my comment, "Let's only have sane (aqli raso) people at the conference," which I made in response to emerging details about the physical altercation between the two mentioned above. I was upset at the possibility of such an incident occurring, but that does not excuse my tone. I sincerely apologize again.

As for sart, while it was not always derogatory -- something I learned while reading en:Mission to Tashkent / uz:Mission to Tashkent -- it's now offensive. As an ethnic Uzbek, I occasionally use the phrase erinmagan sart ("assiduous Sart") out of habit, as it's common in my dialect. However, I fully recognize that I shouldn't. Just as Kamol Azzam unintentionally spelled out a slur (later redacting it at my suggestion) while comparing it to the N-word, slips like these do happen. But I've learned my lesson.

Persistent privacy violations (UCoC 3.1)

In our community, it's become commonplace to share private conversations with other users publicly without their consent. A user emailed me on 3 March 2025, informing of their intention to anonymously report a case on the local AN. I advised them to contact the T&S team directly, providing the emails emergency(_AT_)wikimedia.org and ca(_AT_)wikimedia.org, depending on the urgency. I also urged them not to post on the admin noticeboard. However, they had proceeded to do so using a sock account for privacy by the time I responded 39 minutes after receiving her email. The discussion quickly escalated, with users adding unrelated accusations. On March 6, I emailed ca(_AT_)wikimedia.org, asking whether we should request an oversighter to remove the discussion until T&S could investigate and what the proper procedure would be. I have yet to receive a response. I later forwarded this email to u4c(_AT_)wikimedia.org on March 17 while reporting the threats and cases of physical violence I mentioned above. I believe I did the right thing by 1) instructing the accuser to report the sexual harassment allegations against Alpasli to T&S over email (and later doing so myself) instead of engaging in the local discussion. However, Kamol Azzam has accused me, among other things, of not taking decisive action against and protecting Alpasli, who Kamol Azzam appears to hold a longstanding grudge against since their physical altercation.

In the same discussion, Jamshid Nurkulov shared two private audio messages Mirzoulugʻbek sent in a Telegram group of flatmates on Wikipedia (and made sure the link worked), messages that had no relevance to either the allegations against Alpasli or Wikipedia-related matters. He did so without Mirzoulugʻbek's consent. Out of respect for Mirzoulugʻbek’s privacy, I hid the link while the T&S Team reviews the case. After sharing the audio recordings, Jamshid Nurkulov requested to have his rights removed on Meta, citing "corruption" in our community. After Jamshid Nurkulov publicly shared the other user's audio messages, to my shame and regret I commented in our private Telegram group that he acted like a clown. I've apologized to him and do so again. While this does not justify my words, I made the comment immediately after another user remarked in the private Telegram group that the public discussion on the local AN was turning into a "circus".

In the private Telegram group of the Wikimedians of the Uzbek Language User Group (WOULUG), I accidentally mentioned the accuser's real first name instead of their sock name (note that their user name is made up of their real name and surname). I corrected it within seconds and apologized. Notably, at least seven users share this first name in their usernames on uzwiki, making it impossible to identify the individual. Nonetheless, as I've already done on uzwiki (1 and 2), I sincerely apologize and will take extra care to avoid such mistakes in the future.

When Kamol Azzam opened the vote of no confidence on uzwiki against me on 16 March 2025, he shared three screenshots of private Telegram messages with me and Mirzoulugʻbek on Imgur without our consent. These images violated Imgur's Terms of Use and were promptly removed at my request. In hindsight, I exercised poor judgment by sharing my full conversation with Kamol Azzam in the private Telegram group of WOULUG to provide context to the snippets he had posted. As I've stated on uzwiki, this conversation contained no personal details or his Telegram handle. However, I should've asked for his permission before forwarding it. When Kamol Azzam requested, I immediately deleted the forwarded messages. In the future, I'll seek consent beforehand if a similar situation arises.

Regarding Kamol Azzam's claim of "sharing other contributors' private information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address without their explicit consent either on Wikimedia projects or elsewhere, or sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity outside the projects," I want to reiterate, as I noted on uzwiki, that all the information I shared in my analysis of potential WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and WP:COI was sourced from public records -- primarily Wikipedia and the public Telegram channel of the WikiStipendiya project.

Finally, please note that a majority of the comments being discussed here were made in private Telegram groups and, as such, I believe they probably shouldn't have been openly discussed but rather emailed to the U4C first ("All off-wiki referrals and any on-wiki cases with privacy implications should be emailed privately to the U4C, who will then decide whether the case should be publicly or privately considered.")

Abuse of uzwiki (UCoC 3.3) by users affiliated with a government agency

I have reason to believe that the WikiStipendiya project, funded and managed by the Youth Affairs Agency of Uzbekistan, is playing a role in the recent negative developments on uzwiki, including the discussion against me. While I was part of the original team that developed WikiStipendiya, I've been vocal in my criticism of the initiative for incentivizing low-quality content creation through large cash prizes for machine-translated articles (e.g., here). In the latest season, some individuals received up to 20,000,000 UZS (around 1,500 USD) in cash. Remarkably, Xoqoni Said mentioned above was among the cash prize recipients. At the time the awards were distributed, the SPI case against him and his teammate Anjaniy had not yet been opened, and we were unaware that he had deprived his competitors of a chance to win a cash prize by reporting their machine translations on the WikiStipendiya noticeboard.

The agency has undeniably prioritized quantity over quality, stating in 2022 to WOULUG members that their goal was to reach 500,000 to 1,000,000 articles on uzwiki within a year. As confirmed by one of the WikiStipendiya participants here, the managers of the project required each group of participants in one of the many WikiOromgoh camps to create at least 700 (!) articles per day. I can provide additional evidence of this if needed. I've been one of the strongest voices pushing back against this approach. While they celebrated with much fanfare the milestone of uzwiki reaching 300,000 articles (covered by media outlets) on 30 June 2024, I've played a key role in community efforts to remove subpar content, bringing the actual count down to 291,500 as of now. My other efforts to push back have included:

• Leading initiatives to revise WP:CSD to enable the deletion of poor-quality machine-translated content.
• Advocating to disable the Content Translation tool for inexperienced users, with community support.
• Spearheading the identification of nearly 200 users who created subpar content to win WikiStipendiya prizes.
• Advocating for a fundamental shift in the project's focus, urging a prioritization of quality over quantity and sharing community suggestions for a new season via email in January 2025.

This has understandably frustrated the project's organizers, including Kamol Azzam, who was part of the organizing team in 2022-2024. Given these efforts, I have reason to believe that the WikiStipendiya team is attempting to remove me. In general, given Wikipedia's troubled history in Uzbekistan -- including a period when uzwiki was blocked in the country (with me contributing to raising awareness about this issue) -- and more recent allegations of government-funded interference on Wikipedia, I'm genuinely concerned that WikiStipendiya poses a risk to the integrity of uzwiki unless there's strong community oversight.

There are many more moving parts to these developments, but I've kept my summary focused on the key points for now. I'll be happy to provide additional evidence, both publicly available and private, regarding all the issues I outlined above.

Previous attempts at a solution - (Nataev)

Threats, hounding, harassment, and civility (UCoC 2.2 and 3.1)

I haven't brought up the threats of physical violence against me anywhere before. I did mention the retaliation (with WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and WP:COI violations) I've faced in response to my actions in my email to the U4C on 17 March 2025. A few users have mentioned on the uzwiki AN that they've already contacted or intend to privately contact the U4C regarding this issue (e.g., 1, 2), and I trust U4C team will provide appropriate guidance.

The discussion on the uzwiki AN that was closed on 23 March 2025 marked the first formal review of my past missteps. I'm deeply grateful and humbled that the community chose to support me, with multiple users acknowledging my sincere apologies (1, 2, and 3), with Kamol Azzam writing "Of course, you have repeatedly acknowledged your mistakes and apologized. I hope that those closing the discussion will take this into account, and personally, I deeply respect your actions". They have expressed their trust in my ability to avoid such behavior in the future, and I'm fully committed to honoring that trust.

Persistent privacy violations (UCoC 3.1)

I've done my best to encourage users to share private and sensitive information over email and hide extremely sensitive information (1, 2, 3, 4), but my efforts have been fragmented. There is a need to raise awareness of these issues on a larger scale.

Abuse of the projects by users affiliated with a project sponsored by a government agency (UCoC 3.3)

I've personally led efforts to persuade the Youth Affairs Agency to shift its focus away from quantity-driven content creation and to reduce monetary incentives (Telegram link; my recommendation can be found at 00:45). In January 2025, after consulting with both the Uzbek community and the broader Wikimedia community in the CEE Telegram chat, I submitted a proposed strategy for the year to the Youth Affairs Agency via email. However, I have yet to receive a response. (Please let me know if I should forward my email to the U4C regarding this matter.)

Suggested solutions - (Nataev)

Threats, hounding, harassment, and civility (UCoC 2.2 and 3.1)

I'm unsure of the best way to move forward for the entire community. Regarding individual cases, a sincere apology from Jamshid Nurkulov for his threats would be a good start. I, for my part, apologize yet again for my past rude remarks, and fully understand, as I fully admitted here, are anything but "Civility, collegiality, mutual support and good citizenship". As a next step, all parties involved , first and foremost myself, could strive for practicing empathy and work toward resolving issues locally.

Since Kamol Azzam interpreted my concern about hounding and retaliation going unnoticed as an attempt to pressure other users, I believe it’s best for me to step back from any follow-up discussions and limit my involvement to providing evidence when necessary. Given our community’s inexperience in handling such matters, external support would be highly beneficial.

I once again take full responsibility for my past rude remarks, condemn them, and sincerely apologize. I've carefully reviewed the UCoC and made a commitment to uphold civility at all times, both on and off-wiki. I deeply regret my past comments and wish I had acted differently earlier. While I've already apologized numerous times, I'm always ready to offer my apologies whenever necessary. I kindly ask the U4C team to give me the opportunity to demonstrate my commitment to the highest principles of civility and kindness in all my activities, both on and off-wiki.

Persistent privacy violations (UCoC 3.1)

I believe UCoC should be translated and shared widely among our community (e.g., on wiki pages and our social media pages, including the t.me/uzbekwikipedia channel). I can volunteer to translate the code. We could also organize sessions on the importance of protecting other people's privacy at our events, including at the upcoming Central Asian WikiCon 2025.

Abuse of the projects by users affiliated with a project sponsored by a government agency (UCoC 3.3)

I'm frankly exhausted from pushing back against the creation of subpar content driven by monetary and other incentives. I wonder if there are more systemic ways to prevent a state agency from promoting low-quality content through mass cash prizes. This year, the WikiStipendiya team is considering directly paying a team of users for content creation -- a highly problematic approach that I have personally raised serious concerns about.

Given the importance of this issue, I'd urge the WMF and the global community to closely monitor how the WikiStipendiya project develops. The organizers, including Kamol Azzam, previously attempted to emulate their strategy to create large-scale poor-quality content on enwiki too, but due to the project's size, it was quickly addressed (see, e.g., this SPI on Panpanchik and this discussion on the enwiki AN). It seems, however, that the agency has now shifted its focus away from other wiki projects, solely focusing on uzwiki for now. Nataev ^talk 14:09, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

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Other feedback (Casual)

User Kamol Azzam initiated a discussion on Uzbek Wikipedia, where he expressed his grievances and requested the removal of all user rights from Nataev. The discussion lasted for seven days, and the community voted to retain all rights for this user. The community took into account his significant contributions to Wikipedia, his coordination of projects within and outside of Wikipedia, as well as his acknowledgment of mistakes and request for forgiveness. --Casual (talk) 17:24, 23 March 2025 (UTC).

Please note that yesterday I crossed out my edit closing the local discussion, which had for/against/neutral sections and as such was a vote of no confidence. I did so so that a bureaucrat could close it, as Jamshid Nurkulov reminded me. As per the existing policy, the voting period must close in seven days ("1 haftadan keyin (7 sutka) 15:00 UTC da tugaydi"). The local discussion started on March 16 and I closed it on March 23.

However, today one more user voted supporting to strip Nataev of his rights. In light of Nataev's suspicions of MEAT and CANVASS that he detailed above, I decided to bring your attention to it. By the way, the user has indeed joined Wikipedia through WikiStipendiya, participating in one of the wikicamps organized as part of the project. --Casual (talk) 16:15, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

After I reopened the discussion so that it could be officially closed by one of the bureaucrats, seven new users who met the minimum requirements arrived and voted against Nataev within a short period of time (Users Abilqosimova, Xusnora, Yusufjonov3107, Farrukh Askaraliev, Javoxir Yorqulov, Behruznurullayevv and OneAzimov).

I believe this was organized by people from the Youth Agency of Uzbekistan, who have a database of all WikiStipendiya participants. They must have went through the database, found eligible participants, and forced them to vote. I have no other explanation for why people who had never participated in such discussions suddenly appeared and voted against Nataev all at the same time. I think they want to remove Nataev so they can continue organizing their government funded contests, which result mostly to automatically translated articles on Uzbek Wikipedia.

Bureaucrat Kagansky closed the discussion with a conclusion I did not agree with and created a request for the stewards to revoke Nataev’s rights. Fortunately, the stewards recognized that there was no consensus for removal in the current state.

Wikipedia has been an important part of my life for 18 years. One week ago, I voluntarily resigned from my administrator role on Uzbek Wikipedia because I no longer want to participate in this ridiculous situation. I hope that one day, when the government money runs out and paid content disappears, Uzbek Wikipedia will start a new chapter. —Casual (talk) 15:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC).

Other feedback (Pppery)

Note Requests for comment/Unblocking User:Anjaniy on uzwiki. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:09, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Anjaniy)

As a user who left the project after realizing that I could not fight against very strong and complex corruption around Nataev and other users around him on Uzwiki, I would ask you to consider the following when drawing conclusions: the impunity (or lack of adequate action) of this user, who owns several rights, will have a huge negative impact on the future of the developing project. 188.113.231.13 17:36, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Oqsaqol)

Nataev's analysis of MEAT, CANVASS, and COI is justified. I reported the obtained evidence via email. Oqsaqol (talk) 22:02, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Mirishkorlik)

Attention!

It is very important to pay attention to one more thing. Bureaucrat and administrator of Uzbek Wikipedia User: Kagansky In the case of Nataev, despite warnings from two experienced administrators who violated the rule despite having the rights of a bureaucrat 12 again arbitrarily conclused the case. This is completely against the rules. Mirishkorlik (talk) 22:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Jamshid Nurkulov)

I don't understand what WikiStipendia has to do with it. I think the case was opened because Natayev has been violating the code for many years and has never been held accountable. For many years he has been defaming Uzbeks living in Uzbekistan (he is also an Uzbek, but was not born in Uzbekistan), he called Uzbeks poor, cotton growers, real Sarts (I have listed some of them here, others have been sent to you by email). At that time he did not deny his guilt. Once in a conversation with one of the Wikipedians I said that "I will tear his ass if he continues to defame Uzbeks." But then I admitted my mistake and apologized. But it is clear that he still has not forgiven me for my mistake. Based on this, I want to apologize once again for that rudeness. My rudeness was not long-term, I did not persecute him. But I hope that the letters and attachments that I sent you give you an idea of the scale of the lawlessness that he committed in various Telegram chats that several Wikipedians gathered. Even in this discussion, among the votes counted, there are votes cast for fear of the group around Nataev. You know who these people are, I have already sent you almost all the data. I want to note that after opening this discussion, Natayev hastily began to delete and soften some of his harsh words from the Uzvikichat public (I will also send data on this). Jamshid Nurkulov (talk) 00:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Manipulation

The rules say 7 days, as Casual mentioned, but this rule was not always followed, especially when 70% of the votes were required (example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4), here we see manipulation of the rules. Jamshid Nurkulov (talk) 21:23, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Casual wrote that she has been a Wikipedian for 18 years. Yes, that's true. But the saddest thing is that during those 18 years, being an administrator twice, she did not know the rules or intentionally violated some of the rules of the Uzbek Wikipedia. This clearly demonstrates the level of knowledge and obedience to the rules of the administrators of the Uzbek Wikipedia. I think she did the right thing by giving up her powers as an administrator.

(I want to remind you that there is another discussion that Casual mistakenly closed and which remains unresolved. But neither she nor others pay attention to it - this is also a sign that the administrators do not pay attention to the rules). Jamshid Nurkulov (talk) 05:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Mirzoulugʻbek)

Assalomu alaykum! Yuqorida Nataev qoʻpol soʻzlarni ishlatgani qayta-qayta takrorlanibdi. Ammo bu faqat Nataevga xos emas, butun jamoaga xos illat. Bir admin yuqorida tilga oligan bir foydalanuvchini ruscha "tvar" deb yozgan, boshqasi ochiq guruhda boshqa foydaluvchi haqida "Odamda ozgina farosat bõlishi kerak" deb yozgan, yana boshqasi esa marhum Salazorvni "ruhiy beqaror" degan, maymunga tenglashtirgan. Kamol Azzam esa meni gapirish ohangimni masxaralab video olgan, videoni esa Panpanchik yozib olgan. Shuningdek Alpaslini ham gey (bu oʻzbek jamiyatida eng yomon qabul qilinib xatto bu Alpaslini hayotiga xavf ham olib kelishi mumkin) degan gaplarni tarqatishgan u haqida ikki qismlik sohta videoni aynan oromgoh vaqtida tayyorlashgan. Shuningdek uni qaysidir qiz bilan uchrashuvga borsa ortidan poylab borishgani va boshqalar. Oromgoh vaqtida loyihani koordinatori qoʻl ostidagi qizlarni haqoratlaganini kuzatganman. Shuningdek har bir ishtirokchiga oʻnlab maqola yozasan deya tahdid qilishganini ham kuzatganman. Yaʼni, bizda bu keng tarqalgan illat. Bu holatlarni tasdiqlovchi isbotlarni oʻchirashayotgan boʻlsa-da, menga koʻpiga isbot bor ekan va men ularni bu foydalanuvchilar jazolanishi uchun emas, balki illat jamoamizda keng tarqalganini koʻrsatish uchun email orqali yuborsam boʻladi. Nataevni regionalizmda ayblashibdi. Uyat emasmi? Axir men va Nataev qirgʻizistonlik boʻlganim uchun bizning millatimiz oʻzbek boʻlishiga qaramay haqorat bilan "bu ikki qirgʻiz" (Bu soʻz uchun men yashagan mamlakatda qamoq jazosi bor) deyishganini eshitganman, koʻrganman. Maqsad bir foydalanuvchini jazolashmi, jamoamizni sogʻlom qilishmi? UCoC haqida men hatto eshitmagan edim bu holatdan oldin. Siyosat foydalanuvchilarni "Mutual support and good citizenship" qilishga chorlar ekan. Bir-birimizga dushmanlik qilmay, bir-birimizni loyiha rivoji uchun qoʻllasak boʻlmaydimi? Men yoshim koʻpchiligingizdan kattaroq boʻlganim uchun doim murosaga chorlab kelganman, yarashtirishga uringanman. (Laziz va Alpaslini) (Agentlik hodimlari va adminlarni) (Kaganskiy va Shohjahon Sobirov va boshqalar) Buni koʻpchiligingiz bilasizlar. Shuningdek WMF hodimlari sizlarni bir narsaga koʻnglingizni burmoqchiman. Nataevni ayblayotganlar telegram guruhlardagi oʻzlari yozgan haqoratlarni oʻchirib, faqat Nataevning skrinlarini olib qolishgan. Barchangizni terang hurmat qilaman.--M𝐢rzoUlug'𝐁𝐞k 👤💬 15:55, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Ayqironlik)

It has been such a mess on uzwiki lately. I don't understand where this is all coming from. I was accused of prejudice after I posted my opinion just once in a discussion. As much disappointed as I am, I will not be taking sides at all. All the admins and users involved in this case personally know each other really well. They have shared meals, they have shared their places to stay. They have all been working together for years. Maybe there's something I don't know, but now have they started turning their backs on one another. They have formed opposing fronts as if they are fighting a war. This must not be allowed to continue. Coordinating committee should remove the rights — or even indefinitely block — every admin or user involved after a thorough investigation. No matter which side they are on. Uzwiki must be assigned global sysops until its community develops systematic and comprehensive rules to prevent anything like this from happening ever again. Ayqironlik (talk) 16:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Axadjon1)

I, Axadjon, am an active editor on Uzbek Wikipedia (uzwiki). During my activity, I was granted the "closer" flag, which was later removed. That discussion involved various controversial situations. For instance, Nataev referred to rules from the English Wikipedia that do not exist on uzwiki[1]. However, the community has never reached a consensus on following the rules of other language Wikipedias.

I was unaware that importing rules from another language Wikipedia was not allowed, so when I cited a rule from the Russian Wikipedia[2], which I knew well, Nataev said that this rule was not applicable on uzwiki[3]. However, in another discussion, Russian Wikipedia’s rules were applied, and Nataev did not object.

Additionally, Mirzoulug‘bek, who had previously expressed several opinions, was also among those who actively insulted users. Similar to Nataev, he insulted me during a Wikipedia discussion by calling me a goat[4]. Moreover, when I provided a public YouTube link showing the strong connections between Mirzoulug‘bek and Nataev[5], I received a response saying, "Know your place and participate in the voting"(haddingizni bilib, ovoz berish jarayonida ishtirok eting). With this, he seemed to be asserting his superiority. Even though the video was taken from an open source, he accused me of doxing[6].

At the same time, some of Mirzoulug‘bek’s comments were partially correct. Insults do occur within our community. However, I have heard the most offensive words specifically from Nataev. But I do not believe in the claims about modifications. Recently, I saw that some of Nataev’s words, where he used the derogatory term "rusqul," have now been altered. It is clear that Nataev himself is softening his offensive words, and he may have even deleted some of them.

I have also heard Kamol Azzam’s imitation of Mirzoulug‘bek’s voice. However, there was never any intention of insult in this case. It was merely an example of parody art and a demonstration of Kamol Azzam’s skill.

Regarding the situations in the camps, I cannot say anything.

Other feedback (Erkinoy)

On March 3, 2025, I opened a discussion regarding the assault I experienced from user Alpasli. Since I wanted to remain anonymous, I created this account and, to prevent it from being regarded as a sockpuppet account, I notified the administrators via email. Among them was Nataev. Nataev mentioned that there was no experience among the Uzbek Wikipedia administrators in handling such cases (i.e., harassment), and suggested I contact T&S via email. However, in the discussion about Nataev later, I read that he had revealed my identity to the Wikimedians group. Nataev himself confirmed this during the discussion. I consider this to be a serious mistake. Erkinoy (talk) 18:26, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Xoqoni Said)

I would like to present some facts regarding Nataev’s rule violations.

Nataev has consistently pressured users who started contributing to Uzbek Wikipedia through the Wikistipendiya edit-a-thon (except for a few users who supported him in discussions). Specifically, he has insulted users who made mistakes using automatic translation, calling them "qoʻy" (eng: sheep) or "qoʻy suruvi" (eng:a flock of sheep) . Additionally, there is evidence that he used even harsher insults against me in private Telegram groups. (I can provide evidence via email.)

FFurthermore, my account was indefinitely blocked on Uzbek Wikipedia by User:MirzoUlugbek based on a Russian Wikipedia rule that was never accepted in Uzbek Wikipedia.(See: [7]). However, the same user opposed applying Russian Wikipedia rules in another discussion. (See: [8]). There is no mention on his user page of him knowing Russian. (link:[9]) This raises the possibility of meatpuppetry involving Nataev.

After I was blocked, I was also removed from the @uzwikichat Telegram group. I rejoined using another account, and when Nataev mentioned my username in a message, I replied. However, he immediately blocked me again. Shortly after, he shared a post from my private channel—containing my personal photo—without my consent in a 700-member group, followed by offensive comments.Serious violation of Universal Code of Conduct Clause 3.1. I do not know exactly how he obtained my post, but it was likely through one of the users supporting him in discussions. Regardless of the intention, the use of my personal photo was certainly not for a good purpose.

This situation clearly shows that Nataev and a group of his supporters engage in coordinated actions, manipulate discussions in their favor, and even share private user information without hesitation. (Evidence regarding this matter has been sent to the Trust & Safety team and can be forwarded to U4C if necessary. Contact me at: narzullayevelbek7@gmail.com.) Xoqoni Said (talk) 06:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Mrshaxas)

Men Mrshaxas aynan Nataev tomonidan bloklangan foydalanuvchilardan biriman. Garchi bloklangan bo‘lsam ham munozaralarni doimiy kuzatib kelganman. Sabbai meni qoidalarga zid ravishda bloklatgan va men uzwikida ko‘plab foydali tahrirlar qilishni istaganman / qilganman.

Bloklash holati juda kulgili tarzda sodir bo‘lgan. Men Wikimedians nomli telegram guruhida bir xabar havolasini O‘zbekcha vikipediyadagi munozarada ulashganman. Ayni shu ishim sabab, Nataev Mirzoulug‘bekka ayttirib wiki guruhidan chiqarib yubordi va Telegramda bloklab qo‘ydi. Birinchi navbatda @uzwikichat da o‘zining ham aynan shu guruhdan, havolani vikipediyada ulashganini aytib meni guruhga qaytarishini so‘rasam, yozganlarimni o‘chirib meni blokladi. Keyin esa ikkinchi Telegram hisobimdan guruhda yozganimda ham izohsiz meni bloklab yubordi. Keyin esa 3-hisobimdan kirishim bilanoq meni bloklab qo'ydi.

Men aniqlik kiritish uchun @Osinter_tgbot telegram boti orqali Nataev a’zo bo'lgan ommaviy Telegram guruhlarini  topib unga xabarlar yo‘lladim. Ularda haqorat qilmaganman. Faqat: "Agarda haqiqatda òzingizni kasal deb bilsangiz, xabar bering. Sizni boshqa bezovta qilmayman. Aks holatda menga nisbatan nega unday harakat qilayotganingizni bilmoqchiman. Siz iddao qilgandek aynan pul uchun wikida yurganimni izohlasangiz. Marxaman qilib izoh bersangiz!" deya yozib qoldirganman. Barcha guruhlarga ayni shu mazmundagi xabarlar yuborilgan va hech bir o‘rinda haqoratlash holatlari kuzatilmagan (skrinlarni yuborishim mumkin). Men uni kasal ham, nosog‘lom ham demaganman. Nataev ochgan munozarada Vikipediya sahifasiga hujum qilingani haqida xabar olganini yozgan. Lekin men uning Vikipediya hisobiga buzg‘unchilik qilib kirmaganman. Bundan menga hech qanday foyda ham manfaat ham yo‘q edi. Shungga qaramay, qilgan ishim uchun 1 oy muddatga bloklandim. Shuningdek, munozarada Nataev meni "jazavasidan (https://uz.wiktionary.org/wiki/jazava) tushmagan" deya tariflagan.

Shundan so‘ng, Mrshaxasbotni qo‘g‘irchoq hisob deya cheksiz muddatga bloklashdi (Bu haqida oʻsha vaqt uzwikida qoida boʻlmagan, hozirgisi esa munozara qilinmay ishlashni boshladi). Lekin bu haqida avvaldan ogohlantirish olmadim. To‘g‘ri MrshaxasBot hali bot maqomini olmagan bo‘lsa-da, bot maqomiga so‘rov qoldirganman. Botdan tahrir qilishda davom etishimning sababi, avvalroq user:Abdulla bilan gaplashganimda, u menga botni ishlatib ko‘rishimni va shunga qarab botlik muhokamasi ko‘rilishini aytgan edi. Shu sababdan bot da tahrir qilishdan to‘xtamadim.

Munozara yopilgach cheksiz muddatga bloklandim. Ayni shu vaqt davomida wikipediada ochilgan MrshaxasBot yordamida WMF hackatonida ishtirok etishga tayyorgarlik ko‘rayotgan edim. Unda AWB uskunasisiz ham o‘xshash tahrirlarni tez va oson qilish bo‘yicha kodlar jamlanmasi ishlab chiqilgan edi. Lekin Nataev umuman o‘zbekchada mavjud bo‘lmagan (bu qoidani inglizchada borligini ham kech bildim) qoida bilan bot faoliyatini ham to‘xtatib qo‘ydi. Vaholanki bot hech qanday vandallik tahririni amalga oshirmagan.

Men haqorat qilish va Vikipediya hisobiga bostirib kirish singari tuhmatlar bilan cheksiz muddatga bloklandim. Lekin foydali tahrir qilayotgan botda nima ayb bor edi? Ayni shu Bot ham O‘zbekcha ham Qoraqalpoqcha vikipediyada tahrir qilib kelayotgan edi. Mening ishim boʻyicha kechgan nohaq holat yuzasidan ham o‘rganish o‘tkazilishi kerak. Mrshaxas (talk) 16:58, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Muzaffar Murodovich)

I was active in the forum regarding Nataev's rights revocation. During the discussion, Mirzoulugʻbek blocked me based on en:WP:AGF and en:WP:MEAT. It was stated that evidence, which cannot be publicly disclosed, had been sent via email to Uzbek Wikipedia administrators, U4C, and T&S. I believe they're basing their decision on something I said in a Telegram group. However, I did not recruit users for the forum opened for Nataev's rights revocation, nor did I create accounts or encourage others (on or off-wiki) to edit anonymously to influence the forum's decisions. I mailed the situation in detail with screenshots to T&S (ca@wikimedia.org). I can also send a copy of my email to U4C.

Mirzoulugʻbek and Nataev are personally acquainted and have close ties. I think I was blocked specifically by Mirzoulugʻbek because I was active in the forum discussing Nataev's rights revocation and exposed his mistakes and false statements. There was no community request regarding my block, nor was I warned. I was simply informed that I had been blocked. Notably, I had never been blocked before this incident.

My case isn't the only instance of a block related to this forum. Kamol Azzam, who initiated the forum for Nataev's rights revocation, was also blocked for the same reason. Likewise, Boburjon Xidirov was blocked by Alpasli (who has close ties with Nataev) for one week for mentioning users to participate in the forum on the forum page itself. Boburjon Xidirov was even prohibited from editing the discussion page. Personally, I saw these as attempts to prevent certain users from voting.

Nataev made serious mistakes, admitted to almost all of them, and sufficient arguments were provided to justify his rights revocation. I was planning to vote, but as I mentioned earlier, Mirzoulugʻbek blocked me for one week.

Additionally, seven votes in favor of the revocation were disregarded by Casual. The justification was that "the votes were cast on the eighth day and most likely resulted from canvassing." However, calling it canvassing is subjective and does not justify invalidating the votes. No rule states votes cannot be cast on the eighth day. On the contrary, the rule explicitly states that voting must close only after seven days:

"… 1 haftadan keyin (7 sutka) 15:00 UTC da tugaydi"

In Uzbek, "keyin" means "after". However, Casual incorrectly translated this into English as "the voting period must close in seven days." Until now, discussions related to administrators have always been closed after seven days. For instance, in this request, voting started on June 9, 2023, and was closed on June 25, with votes continuing after the seven-day period. Even Nataev himself voted on the 16th day. (see also this requst)

Casual had no right to close the conclusion. Kagansky's conclusion was ruled a violation by Nataev. Action must be taken for the gross mistakes made by Nataev. Muzaffar Murodovich (talk) 12:18, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Other feedback (Lemonaka)

The governance issues of the Uzbek Wikipedia have a long history. Since PlanespotterA320 abused sockpuppetry, the project has displayed a behavior where it is difficult for outsiders to intervene and there is mutual protection amongst sysops. Despite the stewards and Checkusers pointing out the misconduct of PlanespotterA320 and with the help of the global and Wikimedia Foundation to stop the corruption, the problems of this project still persist. On one hand, the administrators of this project know each other, as stated in Nataev's comments in the past RFC, making it very difficult for this project to self-correct due to real-world connections. On the other hand, this project likely exhibits long-term disruptive behavior that negatively affects user participation. Considering PlanespotterA320's doxxing behavior towards me and Red-tailed hawk in the past and the recent leakage of telegram content related to the management group, such behavior may unfortunately not be uncommon.

My suggestion is that, following this case, a re-evaluation should be conducted on those users who have recently been granted oversight or checkuser permissions to determine if they are associated with this incident. If any connections are found, their permissions should be considered for removal, and the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) should be reviewed for potential revocation, as individuals involved in leaking the privacy of community members may pose a risk globally, especially since oversight users can access CUwiki. This could be harmful to global governance.

Furthermore, consideration should be given to subjecting this project to long-term oversight by the Wikimedia Foundation or stewards, similar to what was done with the Persian Wikipedia or Chinese Wikipedia in the past, to prevent the recurrence of related disruptive behaviors.-Lemonaka (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Discussion between the involved parties and the U4C members

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I'd like to comment on two policies that I believe are not directly related to UCoC but were raised by Kamol Azzam above. One of the policies in question is uz:VP:IVG, which I personally developed from scratch. The main change I made was the length of the dash. While it's true that I didn't initiate a public discussion, I did consult with other users in our Telegram group, based on the predominant dash used in the literature and actually cited a punctuation manual in my edit summary. That's why Malikxan went ahead and changed the MediaWiki script accordingly a couple of months later. However, Jamshid Nurkulov reverted my edit months later, and I was perfectly fine with it -- I never felt the need to follow up.

The other policy mentioned by Kamol Azzam, which outlines the minimum requirements for users eligible to vote on granting (and by extension, revoking) advanced rights, was indeed never formally discussed by the community. However, we've followed it in practice, as it was directly translated from ruwiki. As I mentioned on uzwiki, we adhered to this rule when I was seeking checkuser rights, and it is only fair that we follow the same guidelines when discussing the revocation of my rights. I don't see how these two instance constitute a violation of the UcOC. Nataev ^talk 14:13, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@User:Kamol Azzam and User:Nataev a question for both of you:
one of the main causes of the internal conflict within the project seems to be the WikiStipendiya program and its competition that apparently interferes deeply with both community dynamics and uzwiki content. It is not entirely clear to me how the roles within this project (organizers, participants, delegates from external partners, etc) overlap with the roles within uzwiki, especially those that are supposed to deal with project governance (advanced rights holders). Can you please clarify this? And can you please also clarify your specific role within that program (organizer, jury, participant, team leader, team member, other...). Thank you. --Civvì (talk) 17:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Google translate to Uzbek/Google tarjimasi o'zbek tiliga

@User:Kamol Azzam va @User:Nataev ikkalangizga savol: Loyiha doirasidagi ichki ziddiyatning asosiy sabablaridan biri VikiStipendiya dasturi va uning raqobati hamjamiyat dinamikasiga ham, uzwiki tarkibiga ham chuqur xalaqit berayotganga o'xshaydi. Ushbu loyihadagi rollar (tashkilotchilar, ishtirokchilar, tashqi hamkorlar delegatlari va h.k.) uzwiki ichidagi rollar, ayniqsa loyiha boshqaruvi bilan shug'ullanishi kerak bo'lgan rollar (ilg'or huquq egalari) bilan qanday mos kelishi menga to'liq tushunarli emas. Iltimos, buni aniqlab bera olasizmi? Iltimos, ushbu dasturdagi o'ziga xos rolingizni ham aniqlab bera olasizmi (tashkilotchi, hakamlar hay'ati, ishtirokchi, guruh rahbari, jamoa a'zosi va boshqalar...). Rahmat. --Civvì (talk) 17:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Good day, @Civvì! Basically, I worked as a remote consultant from May 2022 to December 2024. Initially, from May 2022 to June 2024, my work was entirely voluntary. They began paying me on June 14, 2024, and I received my last payment on December 23, 2024.

My roles included developing ideas for the edit-a-thon, serving as a judge for both long-term and short-term editing contests, and attending opening and closing ceremonies where possible. Additionally, I traveled to three different regions of Uzbekistan to promote the project and raise awareness about WMF projects. I also created and maintained several project pages, including the central project page.

The users listed on this page all received compensation for similar work, with the addition of conducting training sessions and attending nearly all of the WikiOromgoh camps.

The WOULUG acted as a partner, but we never signed a contract or an MoU. Let me know if you'd like further information! Nataev ^talk 19:56, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Civvì, thank you for following up. I am more than happy to share what you requested.

Since October 2022, I have been working as a volunteer within the WikiStipendiya project and assisted with evaluation work. Subsequently, from May 29 to October 31, 2023, I worked as a text editor (copywriter) on the project's social media pages. My work on the Wikistipendya project was not directly related to Wikipedia. On the contrary, I edited Wikipedia in my free time. I participated in editing the rules developed with administrators and the organizing team during the second season of the WikiStipendiya project.

I should also mention that I only worked as a coordinator in WikiOromgod camps organized within the framework of the WikiStipendiya project and monitored the processes of grouping, training, nutrition, and sleep schedule during the process. All work related to Wikipedia was done by Uzbek Wikipedia administrators and had no influence from me.

In addition, there are inaccuracies and misinformation in the above information provided by Nataev. If you believe they would help clarify the matter, I am ready to send them to you via my email address kamoliddin1828 at gmail dot com. Unfortunately, since they contain sensitive information, I cannot disclose here. Thank you once again for not being indifferent to this appeal. Kamol Azzam (talk) 06:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

please send us your information. --Ghilt (talk) 18:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

U4C decision

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Accept votes

1. We have received private requests about Uzbek Wikipedia. Some issues will need to stay private for matters of safety. Some of the issues are for T&S to handle rather than the U4C. However, this community needs some help and some of this work is going to have to be done publicly. I had been wondering how to make a public case. Since this was filed the answer to this question is easier. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
2. We have been wondering in the last few days how to open a public case. In my opinion the issues to be addressed go beyond what is written in this request but this is a good opportunity to address them. --Civvì (talk) 22:19, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
3. Looks like a messy situation, but I see credible allegations of abuse of power that merit further investigation. – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
4. I would like to have a closer look at this conflict and the alleged UCoC violations by several persons. --Ghilt (talk) 11:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

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Google translate to Uzbek/Google tarjimasi o'zbek tiliga

Oʻzbekcha Vikipediya haqida shaxsiy soʻrovlar oldik. Ba'zi masalalar xavfsizlik masalalari uchun maxfiy bo'lishi kerak. Ba'zi muammolar U4C emas, balki T&S tomonidan hal qilinishi kerak. Biroq, bu jamiyat yordamga muhtoj va bu ishlarning bir qismi ommaviy ravishda amalga oshirilishi kerak. Ommaviy ishni qanday qilish kerak, deb o'ylardim. Bu topshirilganligi sababli, bu savolga javob berish osonroq. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2025 (UTC) Oxirgi kunlarda ommaviy ishni qanday ochish kerak, deb o‘ylanib qoldik. Menimcha, ko'rib chiqilishi kerak bo'lgan muammolar ushbu so'rovda yozilganlardan tashqarida, ammo bu ularni hal qilish uchun yaxshi imkoniyatdir.--Civvì (talk) 22:19, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Motions

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Updates

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• Acknowledging that this request has been seen by the U4C. --Civvì (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2025 (UTC)