Tyap Wikimedians User Group/Community Meetings/3rd Community Meeting

The third meeting of the Tyap Wikimedians Community to be held in the Tyap Wikimedians User Group handle on Telegram in the form of a video call on Saturday, 7 September 2024, would center on project learnings and results in the group's events in 2024 from the Atyapland WikiOutreach in June to the Tyap Wiki Bootcamp Season 1 in August, and what to expect in the upcoming Jju Wikipedia Outreach later in September 2024.

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Key points

Takeaway points:

Atyoli Levi Kambai: Ka̱nang a lyen Tyap ji a si̱ lyen lyiat hu, ku na myim a lyen si̱sak nang á̱ ndyuut Tyap ji a̱wot a lyen si̱sak nang á̱ nsaai a̱lyem ka mi̱ [Wukimedia] Komon. (If you know how to speak Tyap, it would be good to know how to write it as well and how to store the language on [Wikimedia] Commons.)
Atyoli Bonat (Afaiatyap): When it comes to the time to travel with the Jju editors, it isn't about the numbers. Let's find people who would do an honest work for the Jju project not people who would be in the group without contributing.
- Let them know we won't do the work alone. Otherwise, the work becomes much for us. Let them progress as we supervise them.
Atyoli Friday Kuyet: The Jju language leaders we met thus far have expressed gladness and shown us their support for the upcoming Jju Wikipedia project, saying they would contribute what they can to its progress.
Atyoli Genesis Shan: Are we using the works we produce? Some of us, we don't consume what we produce.
- We ought to adjust where we got it wrong in the Tyap project in the Jju project.
- For some of us whose images were captured during the Bootcamp by the media, the question is: "How genuine have our contributions been to the project?"
Atyoli Levi Kambai: From what the motto of the Tyap Wikimedians User Group, the aim is to promote Wikimedia projects in Tyap and Nenzit sister projects.
- Nenzit is what the linguists and outside world call the Plateau languages.
- We want to change the name from the Tyap Wikimedians User Group/Organisation to the Nenzit Wikimedians User Group/Organisation.
  - If we work on Tyap alone, what of other languages?
  - The main goals is that we save as many languages as we can from extinction.
- What we are into now is a war which involves knowledge and work.
- The lesson we learn from the Tyap project, we shall replicate in the Jju project.
- The work we have begun, we shall extend to the Southern Kaduna and Nenzit area.
- Local means your own identity.
- Language and identity and politics cannot be divided.
  - You answer a native name and cannot speak the language, it's an insult.
Atyoli Genesis Shan: We should take corrections about how how soft we were in building the Tyap project and apply corrective measures in the ensuing projects.
- How do we make the language 'sexy' for the person who wants to learn this language?
- We have lamented enough.
Ayang-ali Dorothy Katyak: Some of our parents are ashamed to speak the language.
- For the gen-z, there are things we do that they would want to identify with the language.
  - We should work on ways to promote our language.
Atyoli Genesis Shan: We are not pushing this project for ourselves but trying to amend the errors caused by our grandparents and our parents.
- We need to approach our language development board with heat.
- We are coming here to speak in [English] because we still find it difficult to implement what we have practiced.
Atyoli Friday Kuyet: The Jju-speaking people appreciate what we are out to do even though they had never met us before.
- Being there only to criticize is nothing to be proud of.
- We cannot be perfect. As we start from where others stopped so also others would continue from where we stop.
- I have made it a law in my house; if you want something serious from me, if you can't speak Tyap, forget it.
- Before the Tyap Wiki came alive, I couldn't speak Tyap.
  - I had to be deliberate about speaking the language.
- Criticisms would come but we should not deviate from our goals.
Atyoli Aba Theophilus: We may not expect what we need at the moment. But if we give it time, we would find those who would do the work.
- Let's be the change we want to be.
- Take away the inferiority complex.
Atyoli Friday Kuyet: We are beginning the Jju Wikipedia Project exactly two weeks from now.
- We would like to have as many who can speak and write in Jju to be present.
- We initially hoped to hold the programme in Zonkwa, but after consultations, we decided to hold it in Kaduna.
Atyoli Levi Kambai: I would want to appreciate the Atyap who have helped us.
- We appreciate the likes of Atyoli Akila Bungwon, Atyoli Henry Mamman, Atyoli John Bala Gora, and many others like Prof. Bidoli, Rev. Jonathan Nkom and the Agwatyap.
- For those of us who feel unappreciated, the journey is still far.
  - We would get tired of the appreciation with time.
Atyoli Genesis Shan: To the leadership, I want to appreciate you for being steadfast in this football we are pushing.
- We shall get to the goalpost.

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