Talk:Www.wikimedia.org template/2013

Adding Wikimedia Labs

Here is a notice (assuming no real controversy) that I will be adding Wikimedia Labs to www.wikimedia.org, as befits its no longer really in beta status. (Using my official account as this is an official action) LeslieCarr (WMF) (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Support: I'm probably biased here, but I think the project is ready to be displayed.--Ryan Lane (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Support; I'd suggest moving the Meta and Incubator links to the final row (replaced by the actual content projects of Wikidata and Wikivoyage), and adding Wikimedia Labs to that final row. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 18:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Comment: added to /temp. --Jeremyb (talk) 18:38, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Biased support MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Leslie: your approach here is a bit :-/. Starting a discussion is great, but you could have just said "I'd like to add an icon for Labs and here's why" without the officiousness. Most Meta-Wiki users are reasonable people.

Anyway, I don't see any issue with adding an icon for Labs, but the page still looks pretty retarded with four icons per row except for the final row. Is there some other icon we can add to the final row for symmetry? --MZMcBride (talk) 19:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

NB: I temporary fixed align of this row (before adding four icon). --Kaganer (talk) 20:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

After discussion with guillom, I moved the Wikimedia Foundation logo to the bottom row. Thoughts on this version? --MZMcBride (talk) 20:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

It's nice and symmetrical; but what to do the next time we end up with a prime number of projects?  :-) MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 20:56, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

As my mother says, we'll burn that bridge when we get there. ;-)

Long-term, I imagine www.wikimedia.org will become a redirect to Main Page (cf. Wikimedia.org). But for now, I hope to God we're not adding any new projects anytime soon, so this should get us through at least this year. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:00, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry MZMcBride - I didn't think about the tone - I just figured it was a non-issue. I will be more careful in the future. LeslieCarr (WMF) (talk) 21:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries. :-) On some wikis, you certainly need an iron fist (and a healthy supply of clue-by-fours). On Meta-Wiki, it's mostly laid-back people (or people who can't be bothered to give a fuck). Assuming there aren't any objections, I'll sync the new layout in the next day or two. (MediaWiki:Gadget-wm-portal.css will also likely need a few tweaks.) --MZMcBride (talk) 21:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

• Super-obvious  Oppose. Wikitech is to mediawiki.org as outreachwiki is to Meta.
  (Or wikimania wiki; also, as tswiki: is to mediawiki.org.) Wikitech has never been on wikimedia.org; the fact that labsconsole now lives on the same domain means little. There's a very clear distinction as of now, and if we add this wiki we'll soon have to add a bunch more. --Nemo 23:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC) P.s.: I suggest at least a week of discussion and notifications to all affected projects and mailing lists to compensate mailarchive:labs-l/2013-March/001055.html.
  • As I understand it, Labs is a pretty big initiative, on the same level as (or in many ways, much better supported than!) most of the content projects (Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikiquote, etc.). I'm not sure your oppose was obvious, but I appreciate you making this point. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
  • "Compensate"? I'm not sure what you mean by that; but the Wikimedia Labs are a "first class citizen" sister project, and not really comparable to the event- and initiative-specific examples you gave. It's the place for community development of software tools in and around the other projects; the better comparison would be to mediawiki.org which is on the front page. MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
    • I assume(d) it's something like a reverse poisoning of the well. Surely there's an expression to fit this... sweetening the well? Basically the post to labs-l could be seen as an attempt to (unfairly) garner support for the idea of adding Labs to www.wikimedia.org, so some people take the view that this can be compensated for by keeping the discussion open longer and informing a wider range of people. The theory is mostly that wider participation will either add credibility/support to the idea or will offset the current votes here and require even further participation among people who haven't been biased in either direction to make a decision. Or something. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Support! Silke WMDE (talk) 09:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

 Support --Krenair ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Synced. --MZMcBride (talk) 07:14, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Wiktionary logo

I thing logo of wikt should be changed to File:Wiktionary-logo.svg (I mean http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Wiktionary-logo.svg/200px-Wiktionary-logo.svg.png or something like this actually, sure. Or normal PNG version could be exported and uploaded) since current one is English language version only (because in other languages it is not "Wiktionary" even if these lang's wikts use stylized like current logos). This page should represent whole project but not it's English version only so language-neutral version should be ok. --Base (talk) 15:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

<https://www.wikimedia.org> matches <https://www.wiktionary.org>. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok i'll ask the same at <https://www.wiktionary.org>'s page too. --Base (talk) 17:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

www.wiktionary.org was updated a while ago, it's www.wikimedia.org's turn. --Nemo 17:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)