Talk:Wikimedia monthly activities meetings/Quarterly reviews/Editor engagement experiments/2013-01-15

Reusability

I've not read everything in the first sections, although I read Howie's summary entirely: can someone confirm that nothing was said about how ACUX, GettingStarted/Onboarding etc. were/could be helpful for wikis other than en.wiki? The only word I see is "frwiki" after "Launch on other wikis this month" about guided tours and perhaps "Productizing GettingStarted" implies it. Indeed in Howie's summary I see a lot about GettingStarted and then a small line: «Starting to think about what it would take to roll these features out to non-enwp projects. This could easily balloon, and is related to the productization of task generation», which seems to confirm that no thought at all was put so far in non-en.wiki use. Correct?
Before reading this I also asked a question on mw:Extension talk:GettingStarted: could someone please update mediawiki.org to explain what the extension actually does? Thanks, Nemo 23:03, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

No, we discussed localization, just not at length. Howie's summary makes it sound like we just build for enwiki, then go work on l10n/i18n. That's not the truth at all, and probably was a result of his summary being a discussion with Erik, not with the team. Siebrand and his team enforce good l10n/i18n coding practices almost as soon as we commit, and we try to think about launching in other languages ASAP. Easy ones like PostEdit we've done fast, hard ones like upcoming core changes to account creation are slower. Regarding GettingStarted specifically: the big todo item for the team is removing any dependency on SuggestBot. We need that for English Wikipedia and before we launch in other wikis. But we made that decision with l10n in mind. A related example is GuidedTour, which is almost immediately useful for wikis other than English Wikipedia, and which is already localized in a few languages. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:12, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, but my question was not about localisation, it was about reusability (also, say, on en.wikt or en.quote). I guess that it could be rephrased as, "How much of the extension depends on SuggestBot, and how much is independent from it?". Thanks, Nemo 11:41, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Right now the extension delivers no content without SuggestBot. We're just starting to work on a system for automatically generating the list of articles, ala bugzilla:44278. Once that is dealt with, the extension is designed to be applicable to Wikipedias other than English. It is not designed to be applicable to projects other than Wikipedia, though I am sure community developers could at some point adapt it. To be completely frank: it is safe to assume that all of E3's work is focused on Wikipedia, unless explicitly noted otherwise. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

If SuggestBot is used in other Wikipedias, will the extension be able to take advantage of that? --Tgr (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes currently, though as I said we're working on removing the dependency on SuggestBot. It wouldn't actually have to be SuggestBot itself either: if you have a bot that could grab a list of articles from a cleanup category, the extension would work just fine. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)