Talk:Wikimania 2007
Add topicPlease leave comments and questions here about Wikimania 2007, or about bids for hosting 2007 and future years.
For suggestions and commentary about bids for Wikimania 2007, see
Talk:Wikimania_2007/Bids.
For feedback and commentary on past Wikimanias, see the Wikimania 2006 wiki.
Templates
[edit]Is it maybe an idea to make some template to switch between the official bids, to make the reading more easy for the readers? (like the lang-templates, above the page) Effeietsanders 21:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- I added a template to connect official bids :) --Littlebtc 09:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Open Space Technology
[edit]What are the plans for using Open Space Technology for Wikimania 2007? Any chance of getting a facilitator and a dedicted time on the agenda (not competing with anything) for the opening and closing each day? TedErnst 04:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Off-wiki comments
[edit]I've written some comments about the 2007 bids on my blog, if anyone is interested. Kelly Martin 23:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Although this might be a case of "crossing the streams", there is something wrong with the maths of "out of any given six years, Europe should be about three, North America about two, Asia one, and one in Australia, Africa, or South America" ;-P --Alison Wheeler 21:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- What should the math be? TedErnst 21:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- "six years" yet the sum is 3+2+1+1? In my school that came to seven! --Alison Wheeler 12:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. Oops. :-) TedErnst 13:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously "about 3" plus "about 2" equals 4. Kelly Martin 16:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- LOL ... I had an ex who did maths like that ;-P --Alison Wheeler 16:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I like this kind of math. :)--theodoranian 15:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- LOL ... I had an ex who did maths like that ;-P --Alison Wheeler 16:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously "about 3" plus "about 2" equals 4. Kelly Martin 16:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. Oops. :-) TedErnst 13:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Censorship?
[edit]The edit made by the IP was not discussion, request for information about the bid etc, merely a complaint about the city chosen. It was also phrased nonsensically in broken English. I have reverted twice; I will not again per policy. Gary KIRK parler! 17:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was referring to this. Gary KIRK parler! 17:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Read on the top of this page, Gary: "Please leave comments and questions here about Wikimania 2007, or about bids for hosting 2007 and future years." This is censorship. --Gatto Nero 18:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- All bidding teams have put lots of effort into their bids, so we can understand the disappointment. But comments and accusations like the one in question here are just silly. I hope you will get back on the track, and make us an offer we can't refuse for Wikimania 2008. --Boivie 18:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not talking of bid nor anything else. And that edit wasn't even mine (Checkuse me, if you want). But deleting an edit just 'cause someone think that is "unsigned nonsense" is not fair: it's censorship. --Gatto Nero 19:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Arf, Gary... « It was also phrased nonsensically in broken English. » but... wikimedia is not en: ;D and people (me ;-) try to write in english, make efforts. That's censorship ;D </humour> Alvaro 19:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Then, are we going to put the text again on this page, or what? (din't understand) --Gatto Nero 20:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Si / Yes ;D Message looks more desappointed than crude, no ? It's a sad comment Alvaro 03:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Reverted? Why?--Nick1915 21:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion for future Wikimanias
[edit]I don't know if this is the right place, but what the hell. I'd like to suggest that Wikimedia expand the scope of Wikimania beyond their own projects so that Wikimania officially becomes a general wiki conference and encouraging users of other wikis to participate and setup booths for their own wikis and so forth. The "wikisphere" is growing by leaps and bounds and as Wikimedia - responsible for mainstreaming the wiki concept and developing the popular MediaWiki software - obviously has a leadership position in this area, I believe it would be beneficial to all if Wikimania were to evolve in this direction. And of course, it would also potentially provide additional income for Wikimedia projects as a natural consequence by selling booth space, hopefully at a reasonable rate. Anyway, I think this deserves some serious thought for the near future as we continue to witness the rapid spread of wikis. Sphere 23:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]I'm extremely displeased by jury's dishonest behave. Jury knews the name of the city from the beginning. Much wasted hard work.
Nobody will come to Taipei. And many cities will not introduce their bids in order much time. Btw you have already wikimania places for next 4 years... Sidney, Africa etc... please you have not to joking
Republished comment of ip 147.162.44.1 See belowe --Gatto Nero 00:48, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- I understand your disappointment, but... Assume good faith ;D Alvaro 12:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikimania 2007 Team Bulletin
[edit]Published by the Wikimania 2007 Taipei Team, Wikimania 2007 Team Bulletin provides the latest news of the Team's organizing work to everyone who is interested in Wikimania; it also gives the Team chances to announce calls for help/participation, so assistance in human and other resources can be sought in a wider range. Team Bulletin is published at the official website of Wikimania 2007 and released to the public domain. The first issue of Wikimania 2007 Team Bulletin was published at 21 October.--mingwangx (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikimania Presentation Proposal: Call for Suggestions
[edit]I am writing this to elicit comment or suggestions about my proposed paper presentation at Wikimania in Taipei. My paper is entitled "Bright Air, Brilliant Fire: The Mind of Wikipedia." The proposal has been accepted by the conference, in conjunction with a panel discussion I have proposed. I want to air this idea, because I think it is a unique take on the structure and value of Wikipedia.
My plan is to analyze and “theorize” Wikipedia through the work of Dr. Gerald Edelman, a Nobel Prize winner in Medicine who has written recently about the structure and content of human consciousness (the title of my paper is the title of Edelman’s 1992 book). Basically, my thesis about the “mind” of Wikipedia is that the project mirrors the structure of human consciousness (as proposed by Edelman). Following is an abridged version of my abstract. You can see the entire version at Wikimania Program Ideas, http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_Ideas
Human consciousness stems from neuronal networks in the brain that are structured in massively parallel formations of overlapping data maps and circuits. These maps and circuits receive huge amounts of independent inputs, which are managed and “interpreted” by way of reentry signaling and feedback looping mechanisms, all of which distills and assembles information, and strengthens conceptual creation, organization and disposition in the human mind. This structure is a virtual mapping of the Wikipedia system. The “mind” of Wikipedia is something of a “jungle” comprised of overlapping arbors--not just slices--of information that “overlap and ramify in myriad ways” and “give rise to maps and circuits that automatically adapt their boundaries to changing signals” (Edelman 69). These arbors, maps, circuits and boundaries evolve into ever-improved conceptual organization on Wikipedia, which are applied by Wikipedia users.
This idea is linked to Wikipedia's community reference effort, which is in stark contrast to more autocratic, "elitist" methods of information organization. My view is that communities of knowledge like Wikipedia are a key step toward actual, complete human knowledge and understanding. In the Wikipedia world, we are all "elite" sources (or, most of us are), and the key to eliminating aporias in our knowledge of the world--and these gaps have plagued humanity since time immemorial--is the combined effort and a widely democratic development in the assembly, organization and ultimate concretization of knowledge in human communities.
Please note that these ideas are based on the work of Gerald Edelman, but they are entirely mine, and please remember that my proposal has been accepted by the Wikimania conference, and I plan to present these ideas in August, in Taipei. However, I welcome any ideas or suggestions you might have. I can be found at Jim Nightshade on the regular Wikipedia page, and also on the Wikimania main page.