Talk:Wiki99
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[edit]I have been asked a lot to provide editing suggestions. I set this up to model how editing suggestions might look. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
About the name Wiki99
[edit]I have no idea what the name of this list concept should be. "100" is the favored number, and this could have been called "Wiki 100" or "100Wiki". There are lots of other possible names. Anyone can propose a better name.
I choose Wiki99 because there is already a "100 Wikidays" concept at 100wikidays. There are also a lot of other lists of 100. Because I wanted a different search term, and because I wanted to emphasize the concept of "about 100 articles" and not "exactly 100 articles", I set this up as Wiki99. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Vital articles
[edit]In 2016/17 I checked in at en:Wikipedia:Vital articles in the discussion en:Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Archive_10#What_discussion_has_there_been_about_representative_breakdowns? to ask who knew anything about applying this model to that collection. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
100people.org
[edit]There is a project, 100 People: A World Portrait, which seeks to encourage art, data presentations, and conversations based on imagining a village of 100 people who had characteristics proportional to all global demographics. Their website summarizes statistics, saying how many of these 100 would be from which geographic regions, and would have certain education, and access to technology, and be in poverty. I appreciate this as an art project. Some parts of this concept are similar to this wiki99 project. Some are less of a fit.
This 100 People project presents 10-20 percent poverty demographics. I am not sure how to respond to that.
I am impressed with the source list this project collected at
I think most of their content dates to around 2006, and the project seems to have peaked in 2010, and has not been undated since 2013.
Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
WikiBrowse
[edit]olpc:WikiBrowse and the SOS schools snapshot took a similar approach to having a balanced # of articles in each of a range of topical areas -- sometimes just for the landing page, while the full snapshot had a much broader / less hand-curated collection constrained by total disk space. I don't know that they are as cleanly subdivided as this 99 approach, so it's very nice to see this ongoing. –SJ talk 19:54, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Automatically updated lists of articles
[edit]WikimediaCEE table and derivatives
[edit]Suppose that someone had 99 important topics and wanted to encourage the development of those in multiple languages of Wikipedia. Right now there is no standard process for doing this. I want to share some ideas.
Check out a working model at Wiki99 LGBT+, special:permalink/22203804#Core_concepts. Here we have a rows of topics in a table with columns of languages. This makes an easy visualization for showing what Wikipedia language versions at least have a Wikipedia article for various topics.
A lua module generates this table from Wikidata. The original or at least the oldest version I found is Module:WikimediaCEETable, made in 2016 by User:Voll for Wikimedia Central and Eastern Europe and which Special:WhatLinksHere/Module:WikimediaCEETable reports is used on 304 pages. It is hard for me to tell how many of those 304 pages have repeated tables, but I think about 50 of those 300 pages have original content based on checking a few. Other projects using derivative versions of this table tool are Module:WikiDonneLang from WikiDonne, which Special:WhatLinksHere/Module:WikiDonneLang reports is being used for about 10 projects. The other is Module:WikimediaCH2020 from Wikimedia CH, which Special:WhatLinksHere/Module:WikimediaCH2020 reports is being used in 6 projects. Overall, I like this precedent, but I would not say that any of these projects are using the tool to its potential. Problems I see with the above use are repeating the same table in many places for short-term use, not having documentation of the table so that people wanting to learn more can feel confident in what it does, and treating the tool like a complement to a program rather than the feature attraction that I imagine it could be.
I would like to explore making a fork of this tool and table for Wiki99 and applying it here to various topics. Such tables could manage 99 articles or a few categories of tables totaling 99 articles, and concisely show what languages of Wikipedias have this content. I brought this up in August 2021 at Talk:Wiki99/LGBT+#Major_technological_innovation when user:OwenBlacker set up this table for the Wiki99 LGBT+. Bluerasberry (talk) 18:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Wikidata query based
[edit]See d:User:Daniel Mietchen/Wikidata lists/Items with Disease Ontology ID and MeSH Descriptor ID and optional descriptions in multiple Indian languages. This is a d:Wikidata:Listeria table generated from a Wikidata query.
Advantages of this kind of table include the following:
- can query for a general concept and get a list of articles without manual curation
- for someone who is comfortable with queries, this is much easier to change and adapt than the WikimediaCEE table tool model, and can sort concepts in many interesting ways
- table is more dynamic with language and can easily display individuals' own language on the same page, so no need for multiple pages for various language versions
Disadvantages of this kind of table include the following:
- If we have a canonical set of ~99 items I think we can manually put them into this without querying for a set, but currently I do not think that is a common use case for Listeria
- Having more choices and more power can make people hesitate to use it, unless we have easy to copy templates available
- I do not think there is a social precedent of recruiting new user wiki editors to edit content starting from a multilingual Wikidata list like this
I think it would be useful to develop both the table above and this Wikidata query option. In the sort term because of its current state I think more event organizers would like to use that table option, but in the longer term or after development and documentation, I think more people would like the Wikidata model. Bluerasberry (talk) 18:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Software lists
[edit]I have been trying to compile a list or lists related to software. Many of the items do not have good illustrations. The lack of illustrations for software concepts is an identified problem outside of Wikipedia in the journalism space, and some organizations have commissioned art to address this. Here are some resources:
- https://blog.betterimagesofai.org/press-release-better-images-of-ai-launches-a-free-stock-image-library-of-more-realistic-images-of-artificial-intelligence/
- https://challenges.openideo.com/challenge/cybersecurity-visuals-challenge?documentId=51adaf776b8ed548ccae1fdcb75d1359&documentTableId=1297037811924864308
- commons:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-09-30/Gallery
- (currently the media collection seems to have link rot; need to contact organization)