Talk:Requests for comment/Support collaboration on Pashto Wikipedia/Requests/Urdu on ps.wiki
Add topicRemoval of comments[edit]
I have removed a number of comments or portions of comments because they are about particular users. The original request was framed that way, but I left it because it was the original request. The original request was mixed, partly about an understandable issue, needing resolution, that is not about an individual user or set of users, and partly was a complaint about the users.
What I suggest is important for ps.wiki users is to develop a habit of seeking agreement, and, in particular, starting with agreement about policy. If policy is set, and users violate it, then they can be supported to help them keep from violating it, warned, and possibly blocked.
The topic here is the user of Urdu on ps.wiki. What kind of usage of Urdu is permitted? If a template is brought from ur.wikipedia, must it be properly translated first, or can it be used and then improved later? If an article is not written in pure Pashto, whatever that is, should it be deleted or should the language be improved?
This shows what I most recently removed. I am not copying these comments to Talk, because it would encourage the criticized user to defend himself, and it is better for everyone to start focusing on the actual wiki issues.
This kind of an issue is one where, by its nature, stewards and global sysops cannot judge, and requesting on meta that users be blocked for using substandard Pashto or mixed language is going to be useless.
If it is necessary to ban someone, a discussion on ps.wikipedia can be created and a proposal made and voted upon. It is possible for stewards and others to then act. However, I do not recommend this. Rather, if ps.wiki can set up administrator elections, and can elect one or more (preferably more) administrators to handle local issues, by consensus, then the more subtle behavioral problems can be addressed, by an administrator (or, better, more than one) who are widely trusted. That is going to require broad agreement, and that won't be found by attacking each other, and even if one succeeds --Abd (talk) 22:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)