Talk:Proposals for new projects/Archive 3

Cleanup

Someone please, PLEASE refactor it! An admin seriously needs to do this, because an admin especially can have the say-so on removing dead proposals and rearranging such a key page. But please, please, PLEASE someone tidy all this up! --131.111.8.98 02:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC) (w:User:Alfakim)

Indeed I agree, even though I've just joined today. I was surprised that this Meta-Wiki page is a total mess. I reckon we need to make the page like en:WP:FA on English Wikipedia. So each project is placed in a different page. Then we can put the templates in the main proposal page. Can we do that? Cheers -- Imoeng 12:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I mean it, I will do it now. Probably after I contact one of the admins. Cheers -- Imoeng 12:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I strongly sugest to move the comments to the respective proposal page. Or better yet, to the respective proposal talk page. Notice "comments" is not part of the copypast-able format.

I hope you dont mind, but I'm going to shape some of the lower projects in the page with some formatting according to the respective guidelines. --T-man 01:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

...I was trying to shape this thing a little. But I can't make further changes without asking this: What's better

The

semicolon

• or: this?

Both formats seem to be used equally to write down the characteristics of the proposals, but the * comes from the original format. --T-man 05:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

oh, and how can I make a demo? I want to create one for Wikitainment--T-man 05:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Discussing Re-Factoring This Page

This page is a complete mess. Proposals on Meta is a complete mess. Many people probably want to fix it up, but aren't sure if they have the authority. Therefore I suggest we rethink how this works, come to a decision here, and then implement it upon consensus and/or admin permission.

I will outline below my idea for how to refactor this page nicely; post your own, or comment on it! --131.111.8.99 22:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC) (User:Alfakim) (w:User:Alfakim)

--T-man 02:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)==User 131's proposals== As we've seen, a lot of proposals can be made! I suggest the following structure for the page. These structures can be automatically generated by preloaded substable templates.

PROPOSAL On Page Organization

Intro text

=Proposals with working demos=
[{{fullurle:{{fullpagename}}/With_demos|action=edit&section=new}} Add a proposal to this section]
{{/With demos}}

=Proposals without demos=
[{{fullurle:{{fullpagename}}/Without_demos|action=edit&section=new}} Add a proposal to this section]
{{/Without demos}}

Outro text

Comments

• Pardon me, but I fail to understand how would that look like. Could you elaborate?--T-man 23:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

PROPOSAL on subpages

The subpages at /With demos and /Without demos are split into a section for each proposal. Each section has the following format:

==[[Project name]]==
''Short description'' --~~~~
[{{fullurle:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Project_name|action=edit}} Discuss this proposal]

PROPOSAL on each individual proposal

Finally the subpages for each individual proposal have a structure like this:

;Info title : Info
;Info title : Info
;Info title : Info
;Info title : Info
;Info title : Info
...

=Comments=

Comments

• I strongly suggest to leave the comments for the respective talk page as per the original format. My guess would be that the comments started as some people started to write down their opinions next to their names.--T-man 23:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Re-organization finished

All comments were moved to the respective talk page and linked directly from here. Now, the next issue would be:

• the comments some users left after their names. I'm all for moving thiose to the talk pages just like I did with the other comments. Otherwise we risk that new signing users could follow that example.
• Grouping proposals of the same kind.

Regards.--T-man 02:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll change the order of the proposals following the next criteria:

1. Number of interested people
2. How complete the proposal is.

--T-man 00:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup: Comments

Would it be ok if I keep moving comments to the respective comments page? The Proposals for new projects is not supposed to be a talk page. That's why there is a link to the specific Comments page of each project.

Some of the comments, for instance are from people who are too shy to modify the proposal by adding a new naming suggestion and make the proposal next to their signature. Others are voting for names or pointing the need of a version in another language... that's rather material for either the respective proposal page or the site.--T-man 18:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Messy proposals

At the bottom of the content page there are some discussions about some proposals, most of them are not about new wikis but about new languages for existing wikis...I'm not sure that belongs here.--T-man 08:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)