Talk:Movement Strategy/Recommendations/Iteration 1/Capacity Building/9

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Most likely, new comments will not be taken into account by the new three Working Group members in their work of developing the final Recommendations. You are free however to continue discussing in the spirit of "discussing about Wikipedia is a work in progress". :)

Question 13

Answer seems incomplete. PamD (talk) 12:05, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Recommendations

I dont quite get what are your recommendations. Could you maybe summarize them and identify them like the other groups did? Nattes à chat (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

this recommendation is a little unclear at the moment, because we have not finished discussing it. Renumeration of volunteers, for various non-editing work, is being discussed in and between a number of the working groups, so hopefully there will be more clarity once we merge recommendations around this subject. A summary of all our recommendations can be found here thanks! --90.187.22.233 11:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing up renumeration. At this point, I would really appreciate having meals and transportation paid for at local events, because it adds up fast in a big city. (Can't apply online for non-local events anymore due to harassment concerns.) Taking time off work at my own expense to train volunteers is getting old, and I don't have the resources that some others in our local group do. A gift card for groceries, or a wiki t-shirt that fits and looks good ... could make a difference in my attitude after an evening of gnoming. Wiki seems more and more like an activity for privileged people ... or those participating minimally and strategically, doing just enough to build their resumes. Oliveleaf4 (talk) 19:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

This issue has not been completely agreed upon across our working group, though the core of the issue involves volunteers who freely give time and resources, though that in itself benefits the greater community. To be able to do this takes resources, and it is difficult to ask people to freely give great amounts of time without somehow acknowledging they are doing this. How this is done now is inconsistent, and at times it has the potential for excluding those who want to give but cannot afford the commitment or feel they may not be appreciated for their contributions. As of yet, there are no easy or clear answers to this. --- FULBERT (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

What about our valuable contributors for whom public recognition is a really, really bad idea?

Right now, we seem to have the idea that everyone who wants to thrive in our movement must tie their personal brand and online presence to promoting Wikipedia.

However, for a variety of reasons-- messy divorces or domestic violence, ongoing online harassment, living under repressive governments, having a job or community role that requires strict neutrality in personal life, or simply placing a high value on personal privacy-- making a big splash with an online social media profile may be quite undesirable.

Wiki event organizers can be quite insistent on photographs, and applications for financial support for wiki-related grants or events require putting personal information online.

Can we prioritize finding ways to support people, including providing financial support, for those who need a quieter, low-key form of participation in the movement? Oliveleaf4 (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Can you talk more about what you mean here Oliveleaf4? --- FULBERT (talk) 13:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

From Catalan Salon

We don't dislike the idea of redistribution. But economical support already exists in Amical (...)