Talk:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Archives/2021-10

Access to nonpublic data

For fighting against vandalism local and global sysops should be have access to new IP-viewer right. But recently changes in the Privacy policy (prohibition of providing access to non-public data for residents of "unreliable" countries) will be mean impossibility of obtaining this right. In many large projects, all (or almost all) active admins are from one country. Ok, all sysops of ruwiki, trwiki, etc will lose access to IPs / IP range block tool. And then what?

It will lead to huge problems in a counter-vandalism work. I believe these changes of Policy should not apply to address viewing. Or we need to use another way for IP editing problem.—Exoped (talk) 14:52, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Even if it requires T&S to check that the individuals requesting it do not fall into the category of "identity known by government of said country", it's an interesting query.

Certainly some of these projects will be too large to be handled by, say, a group of global rightsholders. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

October FAQ Update Questions

Thanks for the new update. If I have the ability to unmask and I have opted in to that preference does that mean that all IPs are automatically unmasked? How would this tie into session based unmasking? Depending on answers to this I'm likely to have some more questions. Thanks and best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the questions, Barkeep49. We're working on getting Product, Legal and Trust & Safety together on a proposal for how to best unmask a number of IPs, but we're looking more at a one-click solution than a preference which works on all IPs forever. For one thing, we need the accesses to be logged. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

(For those who didn't see it, there is an update on how to handle masking at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation#IP Masking Implementation Approaches (FAQ). It'll go out in Tech News on Monday. Johan (WMF) (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2021 (UTC))