Talk:Global sysops/2017

Please import the history of a Romanian text from Old Wikisource to Romanian Wikisource

Would any global sysop please import oldwikisource:Balada basarabeană despre bătălia de la Lipnic to s:ro:Balada basarabeană despre bătălia de la Lipnic to preserve the full history?--Jusjih (talk) 19:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jusjih: hi, only pages from Commons and Meta can be imported to s:ro: using the right import, so we the GSs can't do it and a steward is needed to do the task, they can use the right importupload. You can do your request at SRM. Regards.--Syum90 (talk) 09:55, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Oldwikisource should probably be added to the import sources. Ruslik (talk) 19:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, and also ro:, w: and s:en: would be useful sources to add in my opinion; but enabling this new transwiki import sources would take some time, and the community should be consulted before, so in my opinion you could first consider if the mentioned page should be imported and do it using upload import if necessary.--Syum90 (talk) 11:02, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The page was deleted in the meantime. Ruslik (talk) 13:52, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Without preserving attribution, indeed. This should be fixed. --Vogone (talk) 18:07, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Done --MF-W 18:16, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone. Then I will inform Old Wikisource whom to ask next time.--Jusjih (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

SN#Global sysop wikis

See discussion above. --Rschen7754 03:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Propose change of text "Communication"

One of the lines in the communication section is:

Global sysops must have user pages on every wiki they use their global sysop access on, which provides contact information or links to their primary user page (creation bot available currently).

With the advent of global user pages it is quite an antiquated and redundant line of text. I suggest that we modify this to say that GS should have a central user page, and must maintain open user talk pages on each of the respective wikis.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:35, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

So:

Global sysops must have user pages on every wiki they use their global sysop access on or maintain a global page, which should provide contact information or links to their primary user page.

Ruslik (talk) 18:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I'd support an addition like this, though the wording proposed by Ruslik is rather clunky. Something like "Global sysops must provide contact information on wikis where they use their global access, either through a global user page or through a locally created one. Linking to their primary user page fills this requirement." – Ajraddatz (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Happy with AJR's though just a tweak on the text. ...

"Global sysops must provide contact information on wikis where they use their global access, either through a global user page at meta or through local user pages. Linking to their primary user page fills this requirement."

 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:44, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, I just wonder what we exactly want to say with "must provide contact information"? Usually users are contacted through local user talk page (no matter of if someone writes "please contact me on Meta"). Don't we get a notification nowadays if any of our local user talk pages is edited? Stryn (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, it isn't as important anymore. But I still think it's worthwhile for global sysops to have some basic userpage info (or a link to it) on wikis where they are using their bit. Also, Billinghurst's most recent suggested text looks good. – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Hear hear. Every global operator should have a functioning user page where their user rights are explained as well. Just yesterday I bumped into a "power user" who was in fact a global interface editor. So in addition to contact information I suggest that their global rights should be declared in the most simple fashion. --Pxos (talk) 10:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

You won't hear a complaint from me about requiring such declarations as part of the responsibility for holding the right, though having that conversation here isn't going to push that change too well. Try Talk:Interface editors or Talk:SRGP IMNSHO.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:26, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Well there is at present no requirement for declaring the global sysop right, is there? So if the Globo-Cop policy is to be amended, a mandatory declaration should be included here as well. I am not just talking about some other right on the wrong talk page, but providing an example. --Pxos (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC) Added: To drive to point home, "every global sysop should tell on their user page that they hold the GS bit with a link to the policy on global sysops". I'll leave the grammatical corrections to the mother-tongue-people. --Pxos (talk) 13:53, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah gotcha, you are saying that having the user page AND have it note that they are a global administrator. I believe that we should strongly encourage the use of such information as a practice on user pages here; having that on local pages would be burdensome, and may not be pertinent where it is a user's home wiki. I do believe that we could require its addition to their meta user page.

I agree with billinghurst's most recent proposed text. RadiX∞ 03:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

As Stryn says I think it's no longer needed to "provide contact information" at all as we have cross-wiki notifications now and we can be contacted at any of our talk pages, so my opinion is to remove this requirement from the policy. A global user page could be a suitable requirement, most of all to inform about the language skills. Anyway these requirements should be also required to the stewards.--Syum90 (talk) 09:30, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Quite apart from this, I think that global sysops must have at least their preferences enabled to receive email messages, and it should be mentioned on this page as well. RadiX∞ 04:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I would expect that as a bare minimum that ANY person with global rights would have a global user page at Meta, and that can contain information about how they wish to be contacted, and not have blank (local) user pages at wikis that unnecessarily obscure global user page (especially as they can be removed by bot).  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

In my opinion it should be required to all GSs and stewards to have their preferences enabled to receive email messages at all wikis and also to have the cross-wiki notifications enabled. In other words I think it have to be required to all GSs and stewards to be available to be contacted through any talk page and email at any project, it's for this that I think it is not needed to specify this on the user page, but I will not oppose to require the globlal user page also.--Syum90 (talk) 11:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)