Talk:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Edit introduction instead of the entire article
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[edit]Hey @Pseudonym1409 thanks for sharing this wish. Could you provide some examples or use cases for this feature? How or why would it help your workflow? JWheeler-WMF (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @JWheeler-WMF
- Here you can see an example from practice
- https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EPC-QR-Code&action=history
- Search in version history for "Einleitung: Firmenwerbung in der Einleitung neutralisiert" with time stamp 00:47, 12. Jul. 2024
- and compare it with the previous version. As you can see I've only changed the Intro content, but to do that you have to edit the whole page. There is no way to edit only the intro as you can edit a normal chapter. So I've requested to add an option to edit only the intro in the same way as you can already do it with any existing chapter.
- Pseudonym1409 (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pseudonym1409 Can you clarify why, for you, it is a problem to edit the whole page ? Section editing has primarily two functions I think. The first is essentially, to 'skip' most of the wiki code you don't care about, so that it is easier to find the text that you want to edit, by having less to read through. The second functionality is that it can be slightly faster, as you have to download less of the page and load that into the editor. But with the top edit, there isn't anything to skip, so point 1 is a lot less significant I think ? I'd love to hear why you think you prefer to use top section editing. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Support
[edit]My strong support to this proposal. It would be really useful — not to load the whole page. Interestingly, on some language versions of Wikipedia it is done and it is easy. Russian WP, for instance, does have the possibility to edit the Preamble /* Преамбула */: the same [edit] link as before any other section. If I need to do this on English or French WP I should start editing the first section, then manually change “section=1” to “section=0” in the address bar. Why isn’t it still fixed?.. 2dk (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it looks like at least 163 wikis have the EditTop gadget installed, 8 have EditZeroth, and 3 have Section0 (which provide the same function). These gadgets are a workaround for the fact that this feature doesn't exist in MediaWiki proper. You can enable it on English and French Wikipedias, but not German it looks like. SWilson (WMF) (talk) 02:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)