Talk:Community Insights/Community Insights 2023 Report

What is an organizer?

Thanks for your report. It seems very interesting. I have one questinto be sure to understand the results. . You say "Compared to Editors (13%), Admins were less likely to identify as women (7%) while Organizers were more likely to do so (30%)." I'm not sure to understand what you mean with organizer? Is there any definition? this is not a very common term in the community. PAC2 (talk) 06:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello @PAC2 and thank you for your message!

I left a section of key terms at the bottom of the page, where under "Roles", organizers are defined as "respondents who indicated that they organize Wikimedia projects, events, campaigns, or groups, that they are a primary contact or staff of a Wikimedia Affiliate, or have received a grant (including those who identified as Editors and Developers)." Examples of organizers could be someone who helps to make Wiki Loves Monuments happen, someone who organizes an online campaign to help readers of a small language learn to edit, or someone who organizes an edit-a-thon in their city (and many more!). I have updated the section to pull out each role under a bullet point to make it a little easier to find. Thanks very much for pointing this out, and let me know if you find anything else that could be better explained. - TAndic (WMF) (talk) 08:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer. PAC2 (talk) 21:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Demographics by country or region

I would be curious to see statistics by country or at least regions in the report. PAC2 (talk) 05:41, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

My apologies for the delayed response here. Because of the amount of respondents at smaller intersections of data, if we see differences they are often not statistically significant by country or region, and thus we do not report them (that is to say, the margins of error often overlap and we cannot tell whether it is a "real" difference or one that would be made the same if we had more respondents from a country or region). We thus grouped the regions based on editorship into Established, Developing and Emerging (cite note here for how they are grouped) for this report and looked for differences among these three groups. - TAndic (WMF) (talk) 11:08, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Summary and discussion of the results

For your information, I summarize and discuss the results in the last issue of RAW, a newsletter in French : w:fr:Wikipédia:RAW/2023-09-01#communityinsights. PAC2 (talk) 05:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this @PAC2, lovely to see this data presented on wikis and to add RAW to my reading list :) - TAndic (WMF) (talk) 10:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Source for the .5% Native American statistic

Thanks for this report, very cool to see and definitely questions I'm interested in. What is the source for the 0.5% of US residents being Native American? In 2021 the US Census found that 2.9% of the US population was Native. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/10/2020-census-dhc-a-aian-population.html Pingnova (talk) 17:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Pingnova, thank you for this question and apologies for the delayed response - I wanted to look into it a bit more! The 0.5% figure comes from this KFF table based on the US Census Bureau's American Community Surveys, cited in note 7. The quick answer to the discrepancy would be that the 2.9% figure comes from all people who identify as Native American, inclusive of people who identify with other categories, while the KFF table (and most other census tables) only report single-selections and group all multi-racial & multi-ethnic people in to one category (which I'm not personally a fan of, but it's very hard to find a single citeable comparison table). However, I got curious because 0.5% is nevertheless very low, so I went to the ACS 2022 data and I couldn't quite make the data match (I got about 0.9%). I'll send KFF an inquiry about their methodology, maybe they're using rolling averages from the ACS rather than single-year reporting. In any case, though it's harder to find a single citation, I think for the 2024 Community Insights reporting we'll calculate from the ACS to allow us to include multiple selections in each category for the US population as that's more comparable to our own reporting. Let me know if you have any suggestions or if I can answer any other questions, and thanks once more! - TAndic (WMF) (talk) 09:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for checking! Being mixed is not uncommon in Native communities so it is disappointing that a large group of them were left out of the report, and I worry about overstating Native participation in Wikimedia projects when they're systemically disadvantaged particularly in internet connectivity/speed and online community participation. You sound like you have a good approach for the next Insights to make it a little more reflective of the IRL Native community so I appreciate that. Pingnova (talk) 02:06, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, me again. I wanted to request a note be added to the CI report that the Native statistic is not accurate. I appreciate that it will be fixed for future surveys but like my last comment says, I worry about overstating their participation. (I work in Native outreach and the Native topic on Wikipedia.) Pingnova (talk) 02:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)